The Miracle of Jesus's Birth.

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Have you ever really stopped to ponder this... Usually we just think about baby Jesus around Christmas time.

This is deeply profound—and it's only right to pause and reflect on the implications of the virgin birth and the incarnation of Jesus. If it's true, it changes everything. If it's not, then—as Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:14—“our preaching is in vain, your faith also is in vain.”

The conception of Jesus by the Holy Spirit is not just a theological detail—it’s the cornerstone of the Christian faith. It means:

• God entered human history in a way never seen before or since.
• Jesus is fully God and fully man, not a hybrid or a demigod, but the eternal Word made flesh (John 1:14).
• Mary’s role, while humble and obedient, was chosen for a purpose that fulfilled prophecy (Isaiah 7:14) and demonstrated God's ability to work through the lowly.
• Joseph’s non-biological fatherhood underscores that Jesus’s identity and authority come from heaven, not human lineage—though He still fulfilled the Davidic line legally through Joseph.

And yes, “Emmanuel” means “God with us.” That’s not just poetic—it’s literal. The Creator walked among His creation. He ate, slept, wept, and ultimately died for us. If this is true, it’s not just the most profound event in history—it’s the axis on which all of history turns.

This reminds me of something C.S. Lewis said: “Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important.”

 

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The idea that “Spirit cannot create flesh” contradicts the very foundation of creation itself. Genesis 1:2 tells us that “the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters” before anything was formed. Then, by His Word and Spirit, God created everything—including mankind. Genesis 2:7 says, “Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.” That breath—ruach in Hebrew—is the same word used for Spirit.

So if the Spirit of God was involved in creating Adam from dust, why would it be impossible for the same Spirit to create a human embryo in Mary’s womb?

Here’s a breakdown of the logic and theology:

• Genesis 1–2: Spirit involved in creation.
• Job 33:4: “The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.”
• Psalm 104:30: “You send forth Your Spirit, they are created; and You renew the face of the ground.”
• Luke 1:35: “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.”
• This wasn’t a physical union—it was a divine act of creation, similar to how God formed Adam, but this time within a woman’s womb.
• While Paul contrasts “flesh” and “Spirit” in terms of sinful nature vs. godly nature (Romans 8), that’s about moral condition—not about the Spirit’s ability to create physical matter.
• Jesus Himself said in John 6:63: “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.” That’s about spiritual vitality, not physical creation.

So the claim that “Spirit cannot create flesh” is not only unbiblical—it’s logically inconsistent with the very existence of humanity.

 

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The Eternal Word Made Flesh: The Incarnation and Resurrection of Jesus Christ​

If the virgin birth of Jesus Christ is true, then it is the most profound event in the history of mankind. If it is not, then Christianity collapses under the weight of its own claims. The conception of Jesus—by the Holy Spirit and Mary, without a human father—is not just a theological curiosity. It is the cornerstone of the Christian faith.

God With Us: The Miracle of the Incarnation​

Matthew 1:23 declares, “Behold, the virgin shall be with child and shall bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which means “God with us.” This is not metaphorical. It is literal. The eternal Word became flesh (John 1:14), entering human history in a way never seen before or since.

Some argue that “Spirit cannot create flesh,” and therefore Jesus could not be conceived by the Holy Spirit. But this contradicts the very foundation of creation. Genesis 2:7 tells us that God formed man from the dust and breathed life into him—the Spirit of God made us (Job 33:4). If the Spirit created Adam, why would it be impossible for the same Spirit to create a human embryo in Mary’s womb?

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John 1:1 – The Eternal Word​

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

This verse establishes that Jesus (the Word) is eternal, divine, and distinct from yet one with God. He was not created—He is God. This sets the stage for the miracle of the incarnation.

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John 1:14 – The Word Became Flesh​

“And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

Here, the eternal Word became flesh—not temporarily, not symbolically, but truly. He dwelt among us, walked among us, and revealed the glory of God in human form. This is the heart of the incarnation: God with us, not in spirit only, but in glorified human flesh.

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1 John 4:2–3 – The Test of True Doctrine​

“By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.” (NASB 1995)

This passage is a doctrinal litmus test. The apostle John makes it clear: true faith affirms the incarnation. To deny that Jesus came in the flesh is not just theological error—it is the spirit of antichrist. This was a direct rebuke to early Gnostic heresies that claimed Jesus only appeared to be human or that His physical body was an illusion.

John’s words affirm that:

• Jesus truly came in the flesh.
• His incarnation is essential to salvation.
• Denying His physical humanity is spiritually dangerous.

This ties directly into the resurrection. If Jesus came in the flesh, then He died in the flesh, and rose in the flesh. His body did not decay (Acts 2:31), and He ascended in that same glorified body (Acts 1:11). He remains incarnate—fully God and fully man—forever.

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The Incarnation Is Eternal​

The incarnation was not a temporary phase. Jesus did not shed His humanity after the resurrection. Paul writes in 1 Timothy 2:5:

“For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”

This is present tense—“the man”—not “was a man.” Jesus is still human, still glorified, still our mediator. His eternal incarnation is the bridge between heaven and earth, between God and man.

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Why This Matters​

If Jesus is truly God in the flesh, then:

• He is the perfect sacrifice.
• He is the firstfruits of our resurrection.
• He is the eternal mediator.
• He is coming again bodily and gloriously.

And if His flesh did not decay, then we have hope that our own resurrection will be real, bodily, and imperishable.

To deny this is to deny the very heart of the gospel. But to believe it is to stand on the most profound truth in human history: Emmanuel—God with us.

 

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Why Jesus Is The Son of God (Capital “S”)​

Scripture uses the term “sons of God” in multiple contexts:

• Believers are called sons of God by adoption (John 1:12, Romans 8:14).
• Angels are referred to as sons of God in a created sense (Job 1:6, Job 38:7).
• Jesus is uniquely called the Son of God—not by creation or adoption, but by eternal nature and divine essence.

Here’s how to express the difference:

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1. Believers: Sons by Adoption​

“But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name.” — John 1:12

• We are not naturally sons of God—we become sons through faith and spiritual rebirth.
• Our sonship is granted, not inherent.
• It reflects relationship, not divine nature.

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2. Angels: Sons by Creation​

“...when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” — Job 38:7

• Angels are called sons of God because they were directly created by Him.
• They are servants, not heirs.
• They do not share in God's nature or inheritance the way believers do.

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3. Jesus: The Son by Nature and Essence​

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son...” — John 3:16
“The Son is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature...” — Hebrews 1:3

• Jesus is not created, not adopted, and not made.
• He is eternally begotten—meaning He shares the same divine essence as the Father.
• He is one with the Father (John 10:30), yet distinct in person.
• His Sonship is unique, eternal, and exclusive.

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Putting It All Together​

• Believers are sons of God by grace.
• Angels are sons of God by creation.
• Jesus is the Son of God by eternal nature.

That’s why Scripture calls Him the only begotten Son (John 3:16)—He is one-of-a-kind, not one among many. His Sonship is qualitatively different from ours. We reflect God's image; Jesus is the image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15).

 

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1. Original Greek and Aramaic Did Not Use Capital Letters Like English​

• Koine Greek, the language of the New Testament, was originally written in all capital letters (called uncials) with no spaces or punctuation. For example, John 1:1 would have looked like this:
  
  ΕΝΑΡΧΗΗΝΟΛΟΓΟΣΚΑΙΟΛΟΓΟΣΗΝΠΡΟΣΤΟΝΘΕΟΝΚΑΙΘΕΟΣΗΝΟΛΟΓΟΣ
• Later, lowercase letters (minuscules) and punctuation were introduced around the 9th century AD.
• Aramaic, used in parts of the Old Testament and spoken by Jesus, also did not have a concept of uppercase vs. lowercase letters.

So, the distinction between “Son” and “son” in terms of capitalization is not present in the original manuscripts. It’s a feature of modern translation and interpretation, used to help readers distinguish between Jesus’s unique divine Sonship and other uses of “son(s) of God.”

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2. How Did They Distinguish the Unique Sonship of Jesus?​

Since capitalization wasn’t available, the biblical authors used context, grammar, and specific vocabulary to make the distinction clear:

• Monogenēs (μονογενής) – This Greek word means “only begotten” or “unique”. Used in John 3:16, it sets Jesus apart from all other “sons of God.”
• Definite articles and titles – Jesus is often referred to as “the Son of God” (ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ), not just “a son.”
• Direct association with divine attributes – Jesus is described as sharing in the Father’s glory, nature, and authority (e.g., John 1:1, Hebrews 1:3), which no other “son” does.

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3. Why Capitalization Matters in Translation​

Modern translators use capital letters to reflect theological significance:

• “Son of God” (capital “S”) refers to Jesus’s eternal, divine nature.
• “sons of God” (lowercase “s”) refers to created beings—whether angels (Job 38:7) or adopted believers (Romans 8:14).

This helps readers understand the qualitative difference between Jesus and others who bear the title “son.”

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Summary​

• The original languages didn’t use capitalization, but they clearly distinguished Jesus’s Sonship through context, grammar, and vocabulary.
• Modern translations use capitalization to reflect theological truth, not linguistic structure.
• Jesus is the Son of God by nature, while believers and angels are sons by adoption or creation.

 

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1. Christianity: The Word Became Flesh​

• John 1:14: “The Word became flesh and dwelt among us…”
• Christianity teaches that God Himself—the eternal, uncreated Creator—entered human history as a man, Jesus Christ.
• This is not a mythological appearance or symbolic manifestation. It’s a literal incarnation, with historical, geographical, and genealogical specificity.
• Jesus lived, died, and rose again in a real time and place, witnessed by real people.

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2. Other Religions: Divine Manifestations or Messengers​

Greek and Roman Mythology​

• Gods often took human form, but these were mythological stories, not historical claims.
• The gods were not eternal, often flawed, and their interactions with humanity were capricious or self-serving.

Hinduism​

• Believes in avatars—divine manifestations of deities like Vishnu (e.g., Krishna, Rama).
• These are cyclical and symbolic, often tied to cosmic balance, but not rooted in a single, unrepeatable historical incarnation.
• The divine is seen as immanent, but not in the same personal, redemptive way as in Christianity.

Islam​

• Strongly denies that God (Allah) could become human.
• Jesus (Isa) is honored as a prophet, but not divine, and certainly not incarnate.
• The idea of God becoming flesh is considered blasphemous in Islamic theology.

Buddhism​

• Does not center on a personal God, but on enlightenment and liberation from suffering.
• The Buddha is a teacher, not a divine incarnation.

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3. Why Christianity’s Claim Is Unique​

• Historical grounding: Jesus’s life is documented in history, not just myth or allegory.
• Personal incarnation: God didn’t send a messenger—He came Himself.
• Redemptive purpose: The incarnation wasn’t just to teach or guide—it was to die for sin, rise again, and reconcile humanity to God.
• Eternal consequence: Jesus remains incarnate, glorified, and will return bodily.

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Putting It Simply​

Christianity doesn’t just claim that God spoke to humanity—it claims that God walked among us, ate with us, wept with us, and died for us. No other religion makes that claim with the same historical, theological, and relational depth.

 

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Denying the deity of Jesus does align more closely with Judaism​

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Judaism’s View of God and Messiah​

• Judaism affirms strict monotheism: God is one, indivisible, and transcendent.
• While Judaism expects a Messiah, that figure is understood to be fully human, not divine.
• The idea that God could become flesh is generally rejected in Jewish theology as incompatible with God's nature.

So, someone who believes in the moral teachings of Jesus, accepts Him as a prophet or teacher, but denies His divinity, is essentially holding a non-Christian view—and in some ways, a Jewish perspective on the Messiah.

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Christianity’s Defining Claim​

• Christianity hinges on the belief that Jesus is both fully God and fully man.
• John 1:1, 1:14, and 1 John 4:2–3 make this clear: the Word was God, became flesh, and anyone who denies this is not from God.
• The deity of Christ is not a secondary issue—it’s central to salvation, the incarnation, the resurrection, and the gospel itself.

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So What Happens When We Deny Jesus’s Deity?​

• We may still admire His teachings or moral example, but we lose the heart of the gospel.
• We reject the idea that God entered human history, died for our sins, and rose again.
• We align ourselves with a religious framework that expects a Messiah, but does not recognize that He has already come.

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In Summary​

• Denying Jesus’s deity removes the foundation of Christianity.
• It aligns more closely with Judaism, which expects a human Messiah and rejects divine incarnation.
• But Christianity proclaims that the Messiah is God Himself, come in the flesh to redeem mankind.

 

[Garee]

Have you ever really stopped to ponder this... Usually we just think about baby Jesus around Christmas time.

This is deeply profound—and it's only right to pause and reflect on the implications of the virgin birth and the incarnation of Jesus. If it's true, it changes everything. If it's not, then—as Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:14—“our preaching is in vain, your faith also is in vain.”

The conception of Jesus by the Holy Spirit is not just a theological detail—it’s the cornerstone of the Christian faith. It means:

• God entered human history in a way never seen before or since.
• Jesus is fully God and fully man, not a hybrid or a demigod, but the eternal Word made flesh (John 1:14).
• Mary’s role, while humble and obedient, was chosen for a purpose that fulfilled prophecy (Isaiah 7:14) and demonstrated God's ability to work through the lowly.
• Joseph’s non-biological fatherhood underscores that Jesus’s identity and authority come from heaven, not human lineage—though He still fulfilled the Davidic line legally through Joseph.

God is not a man as us.

It is necessary to search out the hidden spiritual understanding hid from the father of lies he is not subject to the understnding of the gospel .Foreign land to him

Virgin birth. Virgin meaning unwed?

There is a difference in how the word is used. Each having their own law It can be used as Satan' weapon the lust flesh list of eye sexual sin .

Like Timothy a member of chaste virgin bride mothered by Paul who suffered in pains of born-again new birth until Christ did the work of forming the "Let there be" husband

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Galatians 4:19;My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

Revelation 12:2 And she (chaste virgin bride ) being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

 

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Virgin birth. Virgin meaning unwed?

Not at all... virgin meaning no sexual relations with a man. It can not be construed to have any other meaning.

 

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Not at all... virgin meaning no sexual relations with a man. It can not be construed to have any other meaning.

I would offer no queen mothers of God in heaven

The gospel understanding hid from Satan the spirit of lies. . . . in parables .

Remember as sons of God Christians they are not what they will be when receiving the promise new incorruptible body never die non aging no procreation called the bride.

Born again Timothy chaste virgin to Christ the husband (spiritual seed)

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Virgin meaning not married. The spiritual, eternal unseen understanding. Not the literal lustful

Remember Satan has no gospel understanding. The father of lies is not subject to eternal salvation.

Satan the liar is the father of the two building blocks of false pride "lust of the flesh" working with "lust of the eyes" sexual sin

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Espoused before they were married. Jesus out of wedlock. In that way God used sinners as birthing mothers spiritual seed(Chrsit) it began with Abel passed down it came to an end with the birth of the Son of man Jesus(dying mankind)

Mathew 1:18Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together(married) , she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Luke 2:36 And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity; ( The beginning of the marriage)

Sexual sin is another doctrine separate from the parable of the "chaste virgin bride" the church.

Rightly dividing parables. It's the kind of religion God puts his seal of approval on. the household of faith Chrsit labor of love that looks to the unseen eternal things. Those who were once without our Holy Father as widows anticipating the wedding supper in the new born again order

James1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Galatians 6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

 

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What about the miracle of Jesus new birth from death to life in his resurrection?

Jesus being the first person to be born again in the very deaths of darkness stripping away from himself the forces of darkness that had held him down.

Rom. 8:29, “For whom he foreknew he also foreordained to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the first born among many brethren.”

Col. 1:18, “For he is the head of the body, the church; who is the beginning, the first born from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.”

Jesus was born into the New Covenant in Hades.

Col. 2:15 describes it in part, “Having put off from himself the principalities and the powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.” (Marg.) Satan was defeated.

The King James Bible uses the word, "having spoiled" principalities and powers......

The word "spoiled" means "to strip away" Jesus stripped away from himself the powers and forces of darkness from himself. Being born again, born anew in darkness, thus conquering Satan and all his fallen angels.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

1Pe 3:18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, (ESV)

 

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Jesus stripped away from himself all of the powers of darkness. We also who being in Christ in his death have also stripped away from our self’s the same powers. We the Church are more than conquers because we become overcomers over death in Christ the same way we became slaves to sin being in Adam in his downfall.

 

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being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit,

So do you believe Jesus wasn't resurrected in the flesh?

 

[Curtis]

So do you believe Jesus wasn't resurrected in the flesh?

Jesus died in his natural flesh, he was resurrected in his natural flesh, and when was taken up into Heaven his body was changed into a super natural spiritual body exactly how it will be for his Church.

1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

 

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Thanks for your post — I agree that Jesus died in His natural flesh and was raised bodily. But I’d like to offer a clarification:

Scripture shows that Jesus’ body was already glorified at the resurrection, not changed at the ascension. After rising, He said, “a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have” (Luke 24:39), and He invited Thomas to touch Him (John 20:27). He even ate fish with the disciples (Luke 24:42–43). These weren’t signs of a still-natural body — they were signs of a glorified, imperishable body that could interact physically yet transcend natural limitations.

Paul describes this kind of body in 1 Corinthians 15:44 as a spiritual body — not meaning non-physical, but Spirit-empowered and eternal. Jesus ascended in that same glorified body, and Acts 1:11 says He will return “in the same way” — bodily and visibly.

But that’s not the only passage that affirms His return in the flesh:

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Zechariah 14:4​

This is a physical return to a specific location. It’s hard to spiritualize this — it speaks of literal feet touching down on literal ground, causing a massive geographical shift.

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Revelation 19:11–16​

Jesus returns bodily, riding a white horse, wearing a robe, and bearing visible marks of authority. He’s not a spirit or vision — He’s a glorified man, leading a heavenly army.

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Revelation 1:7​

This echoes Acts 1:11 and confirms that His return will be visible and physical, not symbolic or hidden.

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Millennial Reign — Revelation 20:4–6​

During the millennium, Jesus reigns on earth. Saints are resurrected and rule with Him. This implies a physical presence — not just a spiritual influence. Isaiah 2:2–4 and Micah 4:1–4 also describe nations coming to learn from Him, which again suggests a bodily reign.

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Philippians 3:21​

This shows that Jesus’ glorified body is the template for ours. He didn’t shed His humanity at the ascension — He remains fully God and fully man, even now.

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Summary:​

Jesus was raised in a glorified body — flesh and bones, but imperishable. He ascended in that same body and will return in it. His return will be bodily, visible, and physical, as confirmed by Acts 1:11, Zechariah 14, Revelation 19, and more. The Incarnation wasn’t temporary — Jesus remains the God-Man forever, and His physical return is central to biblical eschatology.

 

[Curtis]

Thanks for your post — I agree that Jesus died in His natural flesh and was raised bodily. But I’d like to offer a clarification:

Scripture shows that Jesus’ body was already glorified at the resurrection, not changed at the ascension. After rising, He said, “a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have” (Luke 24:39), and He invited Thomas to touch Him (John 20:27). He even ate fish with the disciples (Luke 24:42–43). These weren’t signs of a still-natural body — they were signs of a glorified, imperishable body that could interact physically yet transcend natural limitations.

Paul describes this kind of body in 1 Corinthians 15:44 as a spiritual body — not meaning non-physical, but Spirit-empowered and eternal. Jesus ascended in that same glorified body, and Acts 1:11 says He will return “in the same way” — bodily and visibly.

But that’s not the only passage that affirms His return in the flesh:

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Zechariah 14:4​

This is a physical return to a specific location. It’s hard to spiritualize this — it speaks of literal feet touching down on literal ground, causing a massive geographical shift.

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Revelation 19:11–16​

Jesus returns bodily, riding a white horse, wearing a robe, and bearing visible marks of authority. He’s not a spirit or vision — He’s a glorified man, leading a heavenly army.

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Revelation 1:7​

This echoes Acts 1:11 and confirms that His return will be visible and physical, not symbolic or hidden.

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Millennial Reign — Revelation 20:4–6​

During the millennium, Jesus reigns on earth. Saints are resurrected and rule with Him. This implies a physical presence — not just a spiritual influence. Isaiah 2:2–4 and Micah 4:1–4 also describe nations coming to learn from Him, which again suggests a bodily reign.

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Philippians 3:21​

This shows that Jesus’ glorified body is the template for ours. He didn’t shed His humanity at the ascension — He remains fully God and fully man, even now.

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Summary:​

Jesus was raised in a glorified body — flesh and bones, but imperishable. He ascended in that same body and will return in it. His return will be bodily, visible, and physical, as confirmed by Acts 1:11, Zechariah 14, Revelation 19, and more. The Incarnation wasn’t temporary — Jesus remains the God-Man forever, and His physical return is central to biblical eschatology.

The Apostle Paul, after Jesus had risen from the dead, said, referring to Jesus........

1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

No human being in his/her natural body can see the "glorified Jesus" unless they see him in his natural body that was crucified and raised back up to life by the Spirit of God.

Jesus said.......

Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

The outpouring of the Holy Spirit could not be given until Jesus had been exalted to his glorified position.

Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

Act 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

Jesus to be "glorified" into his supernatural spiritual body could not happen until Jesus sat down on His throne in Heaven.

The outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost is the proof that Jesus has been "glorified," and that was after his ascension into Heaven.

The Apostle John's description of Jesus in a vision of Jesus in his glorified state in Revelation is much different then what he saw during the forty days in which he roamed this earth.

 

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I would say 1Tim 6:16 is about the Father.. not Jesus specifically. Jesus wasn't yet glorified in John 7, I agree.. but that was before the resurrection and the ascension. I don't see how it has bearing on this.

The same wirh Acts 2:32-33... no bearing on the timeline. Or whether Jesus is still flesh.

Jesus to be "glorified" into his supernatural spiritual body could not happen until Jesus sat down on His throne in Heaven.

The outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost is the proof that Jesus has been "glorified," and that was after his ascension into Heaven.

Why? Why did it have to wait until He was in heaven? Where does it say that?
Yes Acts 2 was after the ascension.. it was also after the resurrection.

Acts 7:55-56 - Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit, saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God and called Him 'the Son of Man' - a title emphasizing His humanity even after ascension

1 Timothy 2:5 - Paul refers to Jesus as 'the man Christ Jesus' long after the ascension, affirming His ongoinghumanity
The is one mediator between God and man,,"the man" Christ Jesus.

Revelation 1:7 - Every eye will see Him. Zechariah 12:10 - They will look on Him whom they pierced. His glorified body retains visible, physical features.
It will still be "pierced" flesh.

 

[Curtis]

Acts 7:55-56 - Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit, saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God and called Him 'the Son of Man' - a title emphasizing His humanity even after ascension

1 Timothy 2:5 - Paul refers to Jesus as 'the man Christ Jesus' long after the ascension, affirming His ongoinghumanity
The is one mediator between God and man,,"the man" Christ Jesus.

A “man” does not need to have physical flesh and bone body to be called a man. There are millions of people whose physical bodies are in the grave yet there spirit is in Heaven without a body and the scripture calls them, “the spirits of just men made perfect….”