A Rabbi Like No Other

[David Koberstein]

Julius Wellhausen (1844-1918) was a German Bible critic with little sympathy for ancient Judaism. Yet his insights about Jesus have been
quoted by many Jewish leaders through the years: "Jesus was not a Christian; he was a Jew. He did not preach a new faith, but taught men
to do the will of God; and in his opinion, as also in that of the Jews, the will of God was to be found in the Law of Moses and in other
books of Scripture."
Jesus not a Christian, but a Jew? Prof. Shaye I. D. Cohen, a Jewish historian who has taught at the Jewish Seminary, Harvard University, and
Brown University, reminds us of just how Jewish Jesus was:
Was Jesus a Jew? Of course Jesus was a Jew. He was born of a Jewish mother of Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends,
associates, colleagues, disciples----all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogue.
He preached from Jewish texts from the Bible. He celebrated the Jewish festivals. He was born, lived, died, taught as a Jew.

According to Prof. Joseph Klausner, Jesus
.....keeps the ceremonial laws like an observing Jew: he wears "fringes"; he goes up to Jerusalem to keep the feast of Unleavened Bread,
he celebrates the "Seder" [the traditional Passover meal], blesses the bread over the wine; he dips the various herbs into the haroseth,
drinks the "four cups" of wine [again, referring to the Passover meal] and concludes with the Hallel [a prayer based on the Psalms].

As far Jesus not being a "Christian," the word was not coined until more than a decade after his death, it occurs just three times in the
New Testament (Acts 11:26, 26:28, 1 Pet. 4:16), and it was not widely used as a designation for Jesus' followers until the second century.
And from what we can tell, the term "Christian" was coined by outsiders, possibly as a term of derision, the equivalent of calling followers
of Muhammad something like "Muhammadites."

Obviously, Jesus was not a Christian but a Jew. Yet he was more than that. He was also a rabbi (although, to be clear, not in the sense of
a modern congregational rabbi). This of course, is common knowledge to many, but for others it is startling news. After all, the
traditional thinking goes like this: A Jewish religious leader is called a rabbi, but a Christian religious leader is called a pastor. And since
Jesus was the founder of Christianity, his disciples would have called him a pastor, as in Pastor Christ.

Well, that certainly would have been news to his first disciples, all of them Jews. They never heard of "Christianity" in their lifetimes.
And Yeshua's first followers went to synagogue on Saturday not church on Sunday, celebrated Hanukkah not Christmas (come to think
of it, they never heard of Christmas either), and referred to any popular teacher as rabbi, using it as a title of honor and respect.

Does this sound confusing to you? Does it appear that I am mixing two religions together or that I am claiming that Christianity
doesn't exist----or that it's actually Jewish? YOU decide!

Shalom

 

[Twistie]

Julius Wellhausen (1844-1918) was a German Bible critic with little sympathy for ancient Judaism. Yet his insights about Jesus have been
quoted by many Jewish leaders through the years: "Jesus was not a Christian; he was a Jew. He did not preach a new faith, but taught men
to do the will of God; and in his opinion, as also in that of the Jews, the will of God was to be found in the Law of Moses and in other
books of Scripture."
Jesus not a Christian, but a Jew? Prof. Shaye I. D. Cohen, a Jewish historian who has taught at the Jewish Seminary, Harvard University, and
Brown University, reminds us of just how Jewish Jesus was:
Was Jesus a Jew? Of course Jesus was a Jew. He was born of a Jewish mother of Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends,
associates, colleagues, disciples----all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogue.
He preached from Jewish texts from the Bible. He celebrated the Jewish festivals. He was born, lived, died, taught as a Jew.

According to Prof. Joseph Klausner, Jesus
.....keeps the ceremonial laws like an observing Jew: he wears "fringes"; he goes up to Jerusalem to keep the feast of Unleavened Bread,
he celebrates the "Seder" [the traditional Passover meal], blesses the bread over the wine; he dips the various herbs into the haroseth,
drinks the "four cups" of wine [again, referring to the Passover meal] and concludes with the Hallel [a prayer based on the Psalms].

As far Jesus not being a "Christian," the word was not coined until more than a decade after his death, it occurs just three times in the
New Testament (Acts 11:26, 26:28, 1 Pet. 4:16), and it was not widely used as a designation for Jesus' followers until the second century.
And from what we can tell, the term "Christian" was coined by outsiders, possibly as a term of derision, the equivalent of calling followers
of Muhammad something like "Muhammadites."

Obviously, Jesus was not a Christian but a Jew. Yet he was more than that. He was also a rabbi (although, to be clear, not in the sense of
a modern congregational rabbi). This of course, is common knowledge to many, but for others it is startling news. After all, the
traditional thinking goes like this: A Jewish religious leader is called a rabbi, but a Christian religious leader is called a pastor. And since
Jesus was the founder of Christianity, his disciples would have called him a pastor, as in Pastor Christ.

Well, that certainly would have been news to his first disciples, all of them Jews. They never heard of "Christianity" in their lifetimes.
And Yeshua's first followers went to synagogue on Saturday not church on Sunday, celebrated Hanukkah not Christmas (come to think
of it, they never heard of Christmas either), and referred to any popular teacher as rabbi, using it as a title of honor and respect.

Does this sound confusing to you? Does it appear that I am mixing two religions together or that I am claiming that Christianity
doesn't exist----or that it's actually Jewish? YOU decide!

Shalom

I ponder the word Christian n back in the day when the name came to be it came from the haters of The Messiah Mocking those who follow the Messiah like calling me a mic cause I'm Irish but I don't go around boasting about myself by claiming I'm a mic I'll say I'm of Irish heritage..

Lord says any house divided will fall n Christianity is like minced meat.. revelations doesn't claim he coming back for a nation of Christians He says His is a nation of priests..

What's boggles me is many hold tight to the word Christian more Over The Word .



¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

 

[Dylan569]

Yes, Jesus was a Jew, but the assembly or church he was to build and to be the foundation was in the future, after the cross and resurrection, after justification had been secured. (Rom. 4:23-25)

Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but my Father in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. (Mat 16:16-18 NRSVue) *WILL BUILD, future tense

But far be it from me to glory except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation. Peace and mercy be upon all who walk by this rule, upon the Israel of God. (Gal 6:14-16 RSV)

Therefore, holy brethren, partners in a heavenly calling, consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession, who was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses also “was faithful in all God’s house.” Yet Jesus is worthy of more glory than Moses, just as the builder of a house has more honor than the house itself. (Heb 3:1-3)

For no one can lay any foundation other than the one that has been laid; that foundation is Jesus Christ. (1Co 3:11 NRSVue)

For freedom Christ has set us free. Stand firm, therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Listen! I, Paul, am telling you that, if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to you. Once again I testify to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obliged to obey the entire law. (Gal 5:1-3 NRSVue)

I wish that the people who are upsetting you would go all the way; let them go on and castrate themselves! (Gal 5:12 GNB) Even today there is the soul-damning danger of Judaizing!

“Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people that produces its fruits. The one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, and it will crush anyone on whom it falls.” When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they realized that he was speaking about them. They wanted to arrest him, but they feared the crowds, because they regarded him as a prophet. (Mat 21:43-46 NRSVue)

So they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? He will come and destroy those tenants and give the vineyard to others.” When they heard this, they said, “Heaven forbid!” But he looked at them and said, “What then does this text mean: ‘The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone’? “Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces, and it will crush anyone on whom it falls." (Luk 20:15-18 NRSVue)

For it stands in scripture: "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and he who believes in him will not be put to shame." To you therefore who believe, he is precious, but for those who do not believe, "The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner," and "A stone that will make men stumble, a rock that will make them fall"; for they stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do. But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's own people, that you may declare the wonderful deeds of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Once you were no people but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy but now you have received mercy. (1Pe 2:6-10 RSV)

For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. (Joh 1:17 KJV)

 

[Garee]

Julius Wellhausen (1844-1918) was a German Bible critic with little sympathy for ancient Judaism. Yet his insights about Jesus have been
quoted by many Jewish leaders through the years: "Jesus was not a Christian; he was a Jew. He did not preach a new faith, but taught men
to do the will of God; and in his opinion, as also in that of the Jews, the will of God was to be found in the Law of Moses and in other
books of Scripture."
Jesus not a Christian, but a Jew? Prof. Shaye I. D. Cohen, a Jewish historian who has taught at the Jewish Seminary, Harvard University, and
Brown University, reminds us of just how Jewish Jesus was:
Was Jesus a Jew? Of course Jesus was a Jew. He was born of a Jewish mother of Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends,
associates, colleagues, disciples----all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogue.
He preached from Jewish texts from the Bible. He celebrated the Jewish festivals. He was born, lived, died, taught as a Jew.

According to Prof. Joseph Klausner, Jesus
.....keeps the ceremonial laws like an observing Jew: he wears "fringes"; he goes up to Jerusalem to keep the feast of Unleavened Bread,
he celebrates the "Seder" [the traditional Passover meal], blesses the bread over the wine; he dips the various herbs into the haroseth,
drinks the "four cups" of wine [again, referring to the Passover meal] and concludes with the Hallel [a prayer based on the Psalms].

As far Jesus not being a "Christian," the word was not coined until more than a decade after his death, it occurs just three times in the
New Testament (Acts 11:26, 26:28, 1 Pet. 4:16), and it was not widely used as a designation for Jesus' followers until the second century.
And from what we can tell, the term "Christian" was coined by outsiders, possibly as a term of derision, the equivalent of calling followers
of Muhammad something like "Muhammadites."

Obviously, Jesus was not a Christian but a Jew. Yet he was more than that. He was also a rabbi (although, to be clear, not in the sense of
a modern congregational rabbi). This of course, is common knowledge to many, but for others it is startling news. After all, the
traditional thinking goes like this: A Jewish religious leader is called a rabbi, but a Christian religious leader is called a pastor. And since
Jesus was the founder of Christianity, his disciples would have called him a pastor, as in Pastor Christ.

Well, that certainly would have been news to his first disciples, all of them Jews. They never heard of "Christianity" in their lifetimes.
And Yeshua's first followers went to synagogue on Saturday not church on Sunday, celebrated Hanukkah not Christmas (come to think
of it, they never heard of Christmas either), and referred to any popular teacher as rabbi, using it as a title of honor and respect.

Does this sound confusing to you? Does it appear that I am mixing two religions together or that I am claiming that Christianity
doesn't exist----or that it's actually Jewish? YOU decide!

Shalom

Yes confusing.

I would think look to the foundation of the wife of Christ the church. The promised name change spoken of in Isaiah 62.

The Holy Father Abraham meaning "the Holy Father of all nations" our Holy Rabbi renamed His bride in Acts. Christian. Literally as a demonym . . . resident of the city of Christ prepared for His wife the church. Named after the founder of the city and husband Christ. A more befitting name to name the bride made up of all the nations.

It would seem help understand that chosen people to be used in parables are not chosen race making Christ a racist.

It is the goal of the spirit of lies the father of racism to deceive mankind to believe God is a dying Jewish man as king of kings. Eternal God Is Spirit not dying mankind

Christ having divorced Jacob backsliding Isreal. not all Israel is born again Israel and in the same way a true jew is not one outwardly acoring to dying flesh but one born again inwardly

Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel (Jacob) committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Genesis 35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob:(Backsliding Israel) thy name shall not be called any more Jacob(Backsliding Israel, but Israel shall be thy name (Backsliding Israel): and he called his name Israel.

Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob (Backsliding Israel) , but Israel:(Born again) for as a prince (Born again) hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

 

[Brad Huber]

Julius Wellhausen (1844-1918) was a German Bible critic with little sympathy for ancient Judaism. Yet his insights about Jesus have been
quoted by many Jewish leaders through the years: "Jesus was not a Christian; he was a Jew. He did not preach a new faith, but taught men
to do the will of God; and in his opinion, as also in that of the Jews, the will of God was to be found in the Law of Moses and in other
books of Scripture."
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The religious jewish leaders of Jesus's day would certainly disagree with you about Jesus preaching a different faith. But then they loved their take on scriptures more than they loved mercy and forgiveness and an open heart that can be directed by the Holy Spririt. Most had hardened hearts that wanted more power over the people then they did wanting an authentic relationship with God.

 

[Twistie]

Yes confusing.

I would think look to the foundation of the wife of Christ the church. The promised name change spoken of in Isaiah 62.

The Holy Father Abraham meaning "the Holy Father of all nations" our Holy Rabbi renamed His bride in Acts. Christian. Literally as a demonym . . . resident of the city of Christ prepared for His wife the church. Named after the founder of the city and husband Christ. A more befitting name to name the bride made up of all the nations.

It would seem help understand that chosen people to be used in parables are not chosen race making Christ a racist.

It is the goal of the spirit of lies the father of racism to deceive mankind to believe God is a dying Jewish man as king of kings. Eternal God Is Spirit not dying mankind

Christ having divorced Jacob backsliding Isreal. not all Israel is born again Israel and in the same way a true jew is not one outwardly acoring to dying flesh but one born again inwardly

Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel (Jacob) committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Genesis 35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob:(Backsliding Israel) thy name shall not be called any more Jacob(Backsliding Israel, but Israel shall be thy name (Backsliding Israel): and he called his name Israel.

Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob (Backsliding Israel) , but Israel:(Born again) for as a prince (Born again) hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

I'm looking at the times of when j where it was first used it was meant as a slur..
It was given by men not the Father..
..
Father says we are His children calls us friend we r called servants brothers mothers n sisters so if I believe what man wants me to believe then one is saying all of a sudden Father turned His nation into Christians instead of priest but yet will say God don't change that makes no sense n Abba is not the author of confusion

Christianity is minced meat.. I mean how many sections is it cut up into now??

One can't say they believe in the Word n yet deny what He tells Us

It's a social club gathering in most them temples.. or maybe a concert or a movie theater but the arms of Christianity is wide open to the world

It has a mean Spirit that mingles with them in them temples many call a church.. I've witnessed it over n over again n it has gotten stronger through the years Father has sent me to many temples to show me what evils they do to be quite frank..

Name calling is name calling tho..

(Oh look at them people following that man who couldn't save himself from the cross them stupid little Christ following Christians) That's n example of what I am saying..

Or do you think them people were friendly that was saying it??

So I say let man be a liar for Abba is not

It's written it's a spiritual war not of flesh the Holy Spirit is the One n only teacher yet it seems many don't have the Faith to believe that the Holy Can teach I mean people still into the days when one could not read the Word because they needed a translator
now it seems they like to spoon feed to make people too lazy to seek the Lord..
Satan like to keep people spiritually immature for an immature tree can not produce fruit

I'm j.s.

(⁠✿⁠^⁠‿⁠^⁠)

 

[B-A-C]

Does this sound confusing to you? Does it appear that I am mixing two religions together or that I am claiming that Christianity
doesn't exist----or that it's actually Jewish? YOU decide!

Hmmm... if theey agreed with Jesus.. then why did they seek to kill Him? It seems they eventually succeeded.
Do you think the Pharisees and Sadducees of those times agreed that Jesus was the Son of God.. Emmanuel.. God among us.

 

[Garee]

I'm looking at the times of when j where it was first used it was meant as a slur..
It was given by men not the Father..
..
Father says we are His children calls us friend we r called servants brothers mothers n sisters so if I believe what man wants me to believe then one is saying all of a sudden Father turned His nation into Christians instead of priest but yet will say God don't change that makes no sense n Abba is not the author of confusion

Christianity is minced meat.. I mean how many sections is it cut up into now??

One can't say they believe in the Word n yet deny what He tells Us

It's a social club gathering in most them temples.. or maybe a concert or a movie theater but the arms of Christianity is wide open to the world

It has a mean Spirit that mingles with them in them temples many call a church.. I've witnessed it over n over again n it has gotten stronger through the years Father has sent me to many temples to show me what evils they do to be quite frank..

Name calling is name calling tho..

(Oh look at them people following that man who couldn't save himself from the cross them stupid little Christ following Christians) That's n example of what I am saying..

Or do you think them people were friendly that was saying it??

So I say let man be a liar for Abba is not

It's written it's a spiritual war not of flesh the Holy Spirit is the One n only teacher yet it seems many don't have the Faith to believe that the Holy Can teach I mean people still into the days when one could not read the Word because they needed a translator
now it seems they like to spoon feed to make people too lazy to seek the Lord..
Satan like to keep people spiritually immature for an immature tree can not produce fruit

I'm j.s.

(⁠✿⁠^⁠‿⁠^⁠)

Hi Thanks for the reply

Used 9 times in Acts Called of God or drawn of God like the calling of Samuael .

Satan would never identify all believers as Christian meaning the bride of all nations. Or the word Abraham meaning the father of al the nations of the world.

God is not a racist. Chosen people to use in parables not chosen race. Satan the father of racism he turns the loving name born again Christian into Bible thumper, brain washed robots etc something derogatory.

 

[Twistie]

Hi Thanks for the reply

Used 9 times in Acts Called of God or drawn of God like the calling of Samuael .

Satan would never identify all believers as Christian meaning the bride of all nations. Or the word Abraham meaning the father of al the nations of the world.

God is not a racist. Chosen people to use in parables not chosen race. Satan the father of racism he turns the loving name born again Christian into Bible thumper, brain washed robots etc something derogatory.

N what does any of that have to do with a derogatory word that so many are attached to over the Word? Is God a lier saying a house divided will fall? Is Man the lier??
Satan is one of the first at the temples front n center n the leader 90 percent of times lead their whole congregation in sin n they all follow as the Lord told me to Let them blind guides alone n those who follow..
I am not so prideful to think the Lord says what He does n it is all for me to keep nor am I so prideful that I think I teach a person how to be a person of God nor do I think Father needs an interpreter..
That's all pride that cause the blindness
From. The first time that Adam shown pride it has just continued n now it's totally blossomed.. Man got so prideful some think they can teach people spiritual lessons..n need to teach other grown people ＼⁠(⁠°⁠o⁠°⁠)⁠／

I only know what I have seen heard n what the Lord reveals..

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

If one really believed the Word they understand He teaches n reveals as the above paragraph states


Let's not forget Judges warning

If it wasn't for the power of The Father everyone of us would be doomed none would ever see the Truth n none of us would even make it to His kingdom

Satan couldn't identify Christians?? Ya mean they way they boast about themselves Satan is deaf??

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[Garee]

N what does any of that have to do with a derogatory word that so many are attached to over the Word? Is God a lier saying a house divided will fall? Is Man the lier??
Satan is one of the first at the temples front n center n the leader 90 percent of times lead their whole congregation in sin n they all follow as the Lord told me to Let them blind guides alone n those who follow..
I am not so prideful to think the Lord says what He does n it is all for me to keep nor am I so prideful that I think I teach a person how to be a person of God nor do I think Father needs an interpreter..
That's all pride that cause the blindness
From. The first time that Adam shown pride it has just continued n now it's totally blossomed.. Man got so prideful some think they can teach people spiritual lessons..n need to teach other grown people ＼⁠(⁠°⁠o⁠°⁠)⁠／

It is you calling the meaning the Holy Father renamed his bride. . . . derogate

Christian. . . . . residents of the heavenly city of Christ prepared for his wife the church. Named after the husband and founder of the city. A more befitting name to name the bride of all the nations of the world .

Derogatory . . .bible thumper, Jesus freak, etc

 

[Twistie]

It is you calling the meaning the Holy Father renamed his bride. . . . derogate

Christian. . . . . residents of the heavenly city of Christ prepared for his wife the church. Named after the husband and founder of the city. A more befitting name to name the bride of all the nations of the world .

Derogatory . . .bible thumper, Jesus freak, etc

This is just sad .. I'll keep you in prayers..

If you don't believe the Word himself if ya can't Hear Him ya definitely won't hear me
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[Garee]

This is just sad .. I'll keep you in prayers..

If you don't believe the Word himself if ya can't Hear Him ya definitely won't hear me
◉⁠‿⁠◉

Which word that came from Him?.

Are you addressing him as a pronoun? Mr. Word

When I hear him, I hear words

"Let there be flesh and blood" to cover the invisible spirit and it was good.

What do you hear?

 

[Twistie]

Which word that came from Him?.

Are you addressing him as a pronoun? Mr. Word

When I hear him, I hear words

"Let there be flesh and blood" to cover the invisible spirit and it was good.

What do you hear?

I hear Him tell me mine is a nation of priest I hear him tell me a house divided will Fall I see many who claim the title Christians has gone a stray.. n I hear much name calling from the Christian community n it makes sense for it was built upon a derogatory name only Good is from Above..


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[Garee]

I hear Him tell me mine is a nation of priest I hear him tell me a house divided will Fall I see many who claim the title Christians has gone a stray.. n I hear much name calling from the Christian community n it makes sense for it was built upon a derogatory name only Good is from Above..


◉⁠‿⁠◉

The word "called" (Crematazo) is used 9 times . . is "called of God "not called by the dying world.

Two way the word called is used Satan would limit it to all one in the same having no spiritual understanding. . he is not subject to the gospel

Christian literally as a demonym "people known by location". Christians, Residents of the Holy invisible City. Prepared for his wife the church name after the founder and husband Christ.

I would think a more befitting name to name the bride of every nation.

Accrediting the work of the husband Christ naming His bride giving it over to the father of lies that would seem to be blasphemy takes away the spiritual understanding of Christ


God is not a racist

If Christian is derogatory, how would you define the father of all the nations (Abraham) the born-again name previous Abram the father of one. family.

Her name was changed from born again Israel in Isaiah 62 introducing the wonderful name Christian her new born again bride in Acts .

Sound D Trump add Get the Job done Vance make the name born again Christian great again

Crematazo used 9 times in Acts (called) means the disciples were divinely called like Samuel

 

[Twistie]

The word "called" (Crematazo) is used 9 times . . is "called of God "not called by the dying world.

Two way the word called is used Satan would limit it to all one in the same having no spiritual understanding. . he is not subject to the gospel

Christian literally as a demonym "people known by location". Christians, Residents of the Holy invisible City. Prepared for his wife the church name after the founder and husband Christ.

I would think a more befitting name to name the bride of every nation.

Accrediting the work of the husband Christ naming His bride giving it over to the father of lies that would seem to be blasphemy takes away the spiritual understanding of Christ


God is not a racist

If Christian is derogatory, how would you define the father of all the nations (Abraham) the born-again name previous Abram the father of one. family.

Her name was changed from born again Israel in Isaiah 62 introducing the wonderful name Christian her new born again bride in Acts .

Sound D Trump add Get the Job done Vance make the name born again Christian great again

Crematazo used 9 times in Acts (called) means the disciples were divinely called like Samuel

Once again it was man mocking man ..
That's not from the Father the Messiah neva claimed the word Christian..the Messiah The Word has called n does call His nation of Priest..

I hold the Word Himself dear to my heart n He lights my path not mans words and ways n routines n what nots

What boggles is me is many Christians claim God don't change yet will claim God changed up His nation..
I mean if one wanna claim n hold the title that's between them n the Lord as for me I been blessed by the Lord to see who I am in him I owe Him so much I've done so much to so many I really have no desire to be a part of the world..

I know my God don't change I know what I see man do in them temples I visited many in my years of travels in America..

Everything God says is so true I see it happening before my eyes n it blows my mind that those who claim to close to Him can't even see what's in front of their face.. at first I was aggravated with most now I just feel sadness n pity for those who r stumbling n grasping for walls in the dark they r walking in..

Like I said it's a derogatory word I know I sound like a mad person personally I didn't choose what shall n shall not be revealed to me by the Almighty but it was so I speak on it n I will stand my ground as I am sure you will stand on yours..

As for me I can't turn back to the old ways I was taught by the world for then I would be like swine going back in the mud after being washed ey?

Everything I've learned I've learned from the Word Himself only the Holy One can reveal one must go to Him as a child n let Him lead until one does so one will stay in the world following its ways..

It's all written

Seek n ye will find knock n the door will open

Hope all's well with you n yours!

(⁠・⁠∀⁠・⁠)

 

[Garee]

Once again it was man mocking man ..
That's not from the Father the Messiah never claimed the word Christian. The Messiah the Word has called does call His nation of Priests.

It would seem that's your approach. The word "called" is used in two ways.

Satan that has no spiritual understanding make the word called one what the eyes see Kaleo ,

Simply look to the meaning of the word klētós – literally, " called " Like calling the cows from pasture

Christians are called Kaleo disciples or followers. Called according to performance

.Like Samuel called a disciple ; called into Eli the priest . . then 3 times later Samuel, Samuael, Samuel called out of his rest.

 

[Twistie]

It would seem that's your approach. The word "called" is used in two ways.

Satan that has no spiritual understanding make the word called one what the eyes see Kaleo ,

Simply look to the meaning of the word klētós – literally, " called " Like calling the cows from pasture

Christians are called Kaleo disciples or followers. Called according to performance

.Like Samuel called a disciple ; called into Eli the priest . . then 3 times later Samuel, Samuael, Samuel called out of his rest.

We are told to turn from Evil to separate from the world idk what you see but I see a bunch of worldly people clinging into a title n it's written do not be like the hypocrites that love being seen going to worship on the corners n in the middle of the streets..
Seems many love the title but pay no attention to the root..
Written they love the fruit hate the tree..

It's all written only one who said the Father don't mean what He says was Satan himself telling eve God don't mean that..

Imma stick with the Word He never lead me astray it's man that has lied to me my whole life it's man who taught me the Love is lying to another to hide dirty little secrets so to say .

I don't go around called myself a derogatory word but that seems to be the main stream these days calling people crackers n the n word n the b word for woman just like they do it all in ignorance just like those who call themselves Christians do..

Eventually tho all will becoming into one Accord for it the Father who the kingdom belongs to not man..

It's written His is a Kingdom of priest..
As far as I'm concerned the Fathers Word is final..

One either follows the Word or the World..

Personally I choose the Word I seen what the world offers

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[Twistie]

It would seem that's your approach. The word "called" is used in two ways.

Satan that has no spiritual understanding make the word called one what the eyes see Kaleo ,

Simply look to the meaning of the word klētós – literally, " called " Like calling the cows from pasture

Christians are called Kaleo disciples or followers. Called according to performance

.Like Samuel called a disciple ; called into Eli the priest . . then 3 times later Samuel, Samuael, Samuel called out of his rest.

that was the Lord calling Samuel.. Samuel just didn't realize it at first I totally get that cause I did not know it was the Lord who was calling me at first either..

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[Bill]

Julius Wellhausen (1844-1918) was a German Bible critic with little sympathy for ancient Judaism. Yet his insights about Jesus have been
quoted by many Jewish leaders through the years: "Jesus was not a Christian; he was a Jew. He did not preach a new faith, but taught men
to do the will of God; and in his opinion, as also in that of the Jews, the will of God was to be found in the Law of Moses and in other
books of Scripture."
Jesus not a Christian, but a Jew? Prof. Shaye I. D. Cohen, a Jewish historian who has taught at the Jewish Seminary, Harvard University, and
Brown University, reminds us of just how Jewish Jesus was:
Was Jesus a Jew? Of course Jesus was a Jew. He was born of a Jewish mother of Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends,
associates, colleagues, disciples----all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogue.
He preached from Jewish texts from the Bible. He celebrated the Jewish festivals. He was born, lived, died, taught as a Jew.

According to Prof. Joseph Klausner, Jesus
.....keeps the ceremonial laws like an observing Jew: he wears "fringes"; he goes up to Jerusalem to keep the feast of Unleavened Bread,
he celebrates the "Seder" [the traditional Passover meal], blesses the bread over the wine; he dips the various herbs into the haroseth,
drinks the "four cups" of wine [again, referring to the Passover meal] and concludes with the Hallel [a prayer based on the Psalms].

As far Jesus not being a "Christian," the word was not coined until more than a decade after his death, it occurs just three times in the
New Testament (Acts 11:26, 26:28, 1 Pet. 4:16), and it was not widely used as a designation for Jesus' followers until the second century.
And from what we can tell, the term "Christian" was coined by outsiders, possibly as a term of derision, the equivalent of calling followers
of Muhammad something like "Muhammadites."

Obviously, Jesus was not a Christian but a Jew. Yet he was more than that. He was also a rabbi (although, to be clear, not in the sense of
a modern congregational rabbi). This of course, is common knowledge to many, but for others it is startling news. After all, the
traditional thinking goes like this: A Jewish religious leader is called a rabbi, but a Christian religious leader is called a pastor. And since
Jesus was the founder of Christianity, his disciples would have called him a pastor, as in Pastor Christ.

Well, that certainly would have been news to his first disciples, all of them Jews. They never heard of "Christianity" in their lifetimes.
And Yeshua's first followers went to synagogue on Saturday not church on Sunday, celebrated Hanukkah not Christmas (come to think
of it, they never heard of Christmas either), and referred to any popular teacher as rabbi, using it as a title of honor and respect.

Does this sound confusing to you? Does it appear that I am mixing two religions together or that I am claiming that Christianity
doesn't exist----or that it's actually Jewish? YOU decide!

Shalom

Well you have to admit that calling Jesus a Christian is a little bit ironic. Cuz being a Christian would be a follower of Christ, so Christ would be a follower of himself?

We who follow Jesus are Christians but Jesus himself is the Christ.
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About being angry with the Jews. I can not be angry with them. Jesus was not revealed to the Jews. There is purpose in all things of God.

Just because we recognize Jesus now, does not mean Jesus was not with the Jews.

Hear oh Israel our God is One.

The Jews did not comprehend Jesus. God's time for His Revelation came when Mary said yes.

We are just like the Jews in many ways. Many think we are above the rest of mankind. Didn't Jesus teach us to set others before us. To be the servant.

How can Christians teach predestination and be a servant at the same time isn't that condescending?

Christians sound much like the Pharisees and many Israelites.

Take the log out of your own eye before you take the stick out of someone else's

 

[Garee]

that was the Lord calling Samuel.. Samuel just didn't realize it at first I totally get that cause I did not know it was the Lord who was calling me at first either..

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yes, same calling of the father the new promised name Chrsitn


It was the Lord calling his wife Christian literally (residents of the heavenly city of Christ prepared for his bride the church named her after the eternal cities founder and husband Christ

Christian a more befitting name to name the bride of all nations previously called her Isarel as in born again Israel not all isreal is born agin some remined as Jabob the deceiver divorced Israel .

Christ in us fulfilling the promise to rename in Isiah 62 . Some say the new name is not Chrsitn .If not then what is the name of the bride of all the nations?

Isaiah 62:1-2 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.