Looking for Jesus according to Matthew

[Bill]

- Exodus 6:6-8

Therefore
לָכֵ֞ן (lā·ḵên)
Adverb
Strong's 3651: So -- thus

tell
אֱמֹ֥ר (’ĕ·mōr)
Verb - Qal - Imperative - masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

the Israelites:
לִבְנֵֽי־ (liḇ·nê-)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 1121: A son

‘I
אֲנִ֣י (’ă·nî)
Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 589: I

am the LORD,
יְהוָה֒ (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

and I will bring
וְהוֹצֵאתִ֣י (wə·hō·w·ṣê·ṯî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hifil - Conjunctive perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 3318: To go, bring, out, direct and proxim

you
אֶתְכֶ֗ם (’eṯ·ḵem)
Direct object marker | second person masculine plural
Strong's 853: Untranslatable mark of the accusative case

out from under
מִתַּ֙חַת֙ (mit·ta·ḥaṯ)
Preposition-m
Strong's 8478: The bottom, below, in lieu of

the yoke
סִבְלֹ֣ת (siḇ·lōṯ)
Noun - feminine plural construct
Strong's 5450: Porterage

of the Egyptians
מִצְרַ֔יִם (miṣ·ra·yim)
Noun - proper - feminine singular
Strong's 4714: Egypt -- a son of Ham, also his descendants and their country in Northwest Africa

and deliver
וְהִצַּלְתִּ֥י (wə·hiṣ·ṣal·tî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hifil - Conjunctive perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 5337: To strip, plunder, deliver oneself, be delivered, snatch away, deliver

you
אֶתְכֶ֖ם (’eṯ·ḵem)
Direct object marker | second person masculine plural
Strong's 853: Untranslatable mark of the accusative case

from their bondage.
מֵעֲבֹדָתָ֑ם (mê·‘ă·ḇō·ḏā·ṯām)
Preposition-m | Noun - feminine singular construct | third person masculine plural
Strong's 5656: Work of any kind

I will redeem
וְגָאַלְתִּ֤י (wə·ḡā·’al·tî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 1350: To redeem, act as kinsman

you
אֶתְכֶם֙ (’eṯ·ḵem)
Direct object marker | second person masculine plural
Strong's 853: Untranslatable mark of the accusative case

with an outstretched
נְטוּיָ֔ה (nə·ṭū·yāh)
Verb - Qal - QalPassParticiple - feminine singular
Strong's 5186: To stretch out, spread out, extend, incline, bend

arm
בִּזְר֣וֹעַ (biz·rō·w·a‘)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 2220: The arm, the foreleg, force

and with mighty
גְּדֹלִֽים׃ (gə·ḏō·lîm)
Adjective - masculine plural
Strong's 1419: Great, older, insolent

acts of judgment.
וּבִשְׁפָטִ֖ים (ū·ḇiš·p̄ā·ṭîm)
Conjunctive waw, Preposition-b | Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 8201: A sentence, infliction

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I will take
וְלָקַחְתִּ֨י (wə·lā·qaḥ·tî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 3947: To take

you
אֶתְכֶ֥ם (’eṯ·ḵem)
Direct object marker | second person masculine plural
Strong's 853: Untranslatable mark of the accusative case

as My own
לִי֙ (lî)
Preposition | first person common singular
Strong's Hebrew

people,
לְעָ֔ם (lə·‘ām)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 5971: A people, a tribe, troops, attendants, a flock

and I will be
וְהָיִ֥יתִי (wə·hā·yî·ṯî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 1961: To fall out, come to pass, become, be

your
לָכֶ֖ם (lā·ḵem)
Preposition | second person masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew

God.
לֵֽאלֹהִ֑ים (lê·lō·hîm)
Preposition-l | Noun - masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

Then you will know
וִֽידַעְתֶּ֗ם (wî·ḏa‘·tem)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - second person masculine plural
Strong's 3045: To know

that
כִּ֣י (kî)
Conjunction
Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction

I
אֲנִ֤י (’ă·nî)
Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 589: I

am the LORD
יְהוָה֙ (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

your God,
אֱלֹ֣הֵיכֶ֔ם (’ĕ·lō·hê·ḵem)
Noun - masculine plural construct | second person masculine plural
Strong's 430: gods -- the supreme God, magistrates, a superlative

who brought
הַמּוֹצִ֣יא (ham·mō·w·ṣî)
Article | Verb - Hifil - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 3318: To go, bring, out, direct and proxim

you
אֶתְכֶ֔ם (’eṯ·ḵem)
Direct object marker | second person masculine plural
Strong's 853: Untranslatable mark of the accusative case

out from under
מִתַּ֖חַת (mit·ta·ḥaṯ)
Preposition-m
Strong's 8478: The bottom, below, in lieu of

the yoke
סִבְל֥וֹת (siḇ·lō·wṯ)
Noun - feminine plural construct
Strong's 5450: Porterage

of the Egyptians.
מִצְרָֽיִם׃ (miṣ·rā·yim)
Noun - proper - feminine singular
Strong's 4714: Egypt -- a son of Ham, also his descendants and their country in Northwest Africa

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And I will bring
וְהֵבֵאתִ֤י (wə·hê·ḇê·ṯî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Hifil - Conjunctive perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 935: To come in, come, go in, go

you
אֶתְכֶם֙ (’eṯ·ḵem)
Direct object marker | second person masculine plural
Strong's 853: Untranslatable mark of the accusative case

into
אֶל־ (’el-)
Preposition
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

the land
הָאָ֔רֶץ (hā·’ā·reṣ)
Article | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 776: Earth, land

that
אֲשֶׁ֤ר (’ă·šer)
Pronoun - relative
Strong's 834: Who, which, what, that, when, where, how, because, in order that

I swore
נָשָׂ֙אתִי֙ (nā·śā·ṯî)
Verb - Qal - Perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 5375: To lift, carry, take

to give
לָתֵ֣ת (lā·ṯêṯ)
Preposition-l | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct
Strong's 5414: To give, put, set

to Abraham,
לְאַבְרָהָ֥ם (lə·’aḇ·rā·hām)
Preposition-l | Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 85: Abraham -- 'exalted father', the father of the Jewish nation

Isaac,
לְיִצְחָ֖ק (lə·yiṣ·ḥāq)
Preposition-l | Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3327: Isaac -- 'he laughs', son of Abraham and Sarah

and Jacob.
וּֽלְיַעֲקֹ֑ב (ū·lə·ya·‘ă·qōḇ)
Conjunctive waw, Preposition-l | Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3290: Jacob -- a son of Isaac, also his desc

I will give
וְנָתַתִּ֨י (wə·nā·ṯat·tî)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive perfect - first person common singular
Strong's 5414: To give, put, set

it
אֹתָ֥הּ (’ō·ṯāh)
Direct object marker | third person feminine singular
Strong's 853: Untranslatable mark of the accusative case

to you
לָכֶ֛ם (lā·ḵem)
Preposition | second person masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew

as a possession.
מוֹרָשָׁ֖ה (mō·w·rā·šāh)
Noun - feminine singular
Strong's 4181: A possession

I
אֲנִ֥י (’ă·nî)
Pronoun - first person common singular
Strong's 589: I

am the LORD!’”
יְהוָֽה׃ (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's 3068: LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel

- Yes, Yah.weh is the God of the promise or of the promises!

- So powerful!

- How is it possible not to understand that?

- What a shame?

When you are using the Hebrew words, are you taking the ones written in the Torah? Or are these just Hebrew words in a modern dictionary?

Also, is it curious to you, when the scripture says God or "the God" that the noun is always masculine plural?

 

[Garee]

Eridu Genesis 1)

The Sumerian Flood Story (also known as the Eridu Genesis, The Flood Story, Sumerian Creation Myth, Sumerian Deluge Myth) is the oldest Mesopotamian text relating the tale of the Great Flood which would appear in later works such as the Atrahasis (17th century BCE) and The Epic of Gilgamesh (c. 2150-1400 BCE).

The tale is also – most famously – told as the story of Noah and his ark from the biblical Book of Genesis (earliest possible date c. 1450 BCE, latest, c. 800-600 BCE). The story is dated to c. 1600 BCE in its written form but is thought to be much older, preserved by oral tradition until committed to writing.

The extant work is badly damaged, with a number of significant lines missing, but can still be read and easily understood as an early Great Flood story. Scholars who have studied the text generally rely on the later Akkadian/Babylonian Atrahasis – which tells the same tale – to fill in the blanks of missing text from the broken tablet. The story most likely influenced the Egyptian “flood story” known as The Book of the Heavenly Cow (dated, in part, to the First Intermediate Period of Egypt, 2181-2040 BCE) but certainly was the inspiration for the later Mesopotamian works as well as the biblical narrative of Noah.

The story was first discovered in 1893, during the period of widespread expeditions and excavations throughout Mesopotamia funded by Western institutions. The good man in this version of the tale, chosen to survive the flood and preserve life on earth, is the Priest-King Ziudsura of the city of Suruppak (whose name means “life of long days”). This same figure appears in The Instructions of Shuruppag (c. 2000 BCE) and as Atrahasis (“exceedingly wise”) in the later work that bears his name, as Utnapishtim (“he found life”) in The Epic of Gilgamesh, and as Noah (“rest” or “peace”) in the Book of Genesis.

The bible cannot be interpreted by an outside source dying mankind . As it is written sola scriptura makes the devil flee every time

Three times as it is written with three denoting the end of a mater

Mathew 4:6 -11And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;;And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.;Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.;Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Why serve the devil?

 

[JLG]

Eridu Genesis 7)

Text​

The following text comes from The Literature of Ancient Sumer, translated by the scholars Jeremy Black, Graham Cunningham, Eleanor Robson, and Gabor Zolyomi. The opening line referencing stopping “the annihilation of my creatures” might be suggesting that the gods initially gave human beings long lifespans as co-workers with the gods who would take on their labor and make the earth pleasant for them, as the story is given in Atrahasis.

In the Atrahasis, after the flood, measures are taken by the gods to limit the human lifespan and increase mortality and these kinds of details may have made up the missing text from the earlier Sumerian Flood Story which follows:

I will stop the annihilation of my creatures, and I will return the people from their dwelling grounds. Let them build many cities so that I can refresh myself in their shade. Let them lay the bricks of many cities in pure places, let them establish places of divination in pure places, and when the fire-quenching…is arranged, the divine rites and exalted powers are perfected and the earth is irrigated, I will establish well-being there.

After An, Enlil, Enki, and Ninhursag had fashioned the black-headed people, they also made animals multiply everywhere, and made herds of four-legged animals exist on the plains, as is befitting. [Here there are approximately 32 lines missing]

I will oversee their labor. Let…the builder of the Land, dig a solid foundation.

After the…of kingship had descended from heaven, after the exalted crown and throne of kingship had descended from heaven, the divine rites and the exalted powers were perfected, the bricks of the cities were laid in holy places, their names were announced and the…were distributed. The first of the cities, Eridu, was given to Nudimmud the leader. The second, Bad-tibira, was given to the Mistress. The third, Larag, was given to Pabilsag. The fourth, Zimbir, was given to hero Utu. The fifth, Suruppag, was given to Sud. And after the names of these cities had been announced and the…had been distributed, the river…was watered. [Here there are approximately 34 lines missing]

…seat in heaven…flood…mankind. So he made…Then Nintud…Holy Inanna made a lament for its people. Enki took counsel with himself. An, Enlil, Enki, and Ninhursag made all the gods of heaven and earth take an oath invoking An and Enlil. In those days, Ziudsura the king, the gudug priest…He fashioned…The humble, committed, reverent…Day by day, standing constantly at…Something that was not a dream appeared, conversation…taking an oath by invoking heaven and earth. In the Ki-ur, the gods…a wall.

Ziudsura, standing at its side, heard: “Side-wall standing at my left side, …Side-wall, I will speak words to you; take heed of my words, pay attention to my instructions. A flood will sweep over the…in all the…A decision that the seed of mankind is to be destroyed has been made. The verdict, the word of the divine assembly, cannot be revoked. The order announced by An and Enlil cannot be overturned. Their kingship, their term has been cut off; their heart should be rested about this…[Here there are approximately 38 lines missing]

All the windstorms and gales rose together and the flood swept over the [land]. After the flood had swept over the land, and waves and windstorms had rocked the huge boat for seven days and seven nights, Utu the sun-god came out, illuminating heaven and earth. Ziudsura could drill an opening in the huge boat and hero Utu entered the huge boat with his rays. Ziudsura the king prostrated himself before Utu. The king sacrificed oxen and offered innumerable sheep. [Here there are approximately 33 lines missing]

“They have made you swear by heaven and earth…An and Enlil have made you swear by heaven and earth…”

More and more animals disembarked onto the earth. Ziudsura the king prostrated himself before An and Enlil. An and Enlil treated Ziudsura kindly…they granted him life like a god, they brought down to him eternal life. At that time, because of preserving the animals and the seed of mankind, they settled Ziudsura the king in an overseas country, in the land of Dilmun, where the sun rises…[Here there are approximately 39 lines missing]

 

[JLG]

Eridu Genesis 8)

Conclusion​

The Sumerian Flood Story is considered the first written account of the popular myth which appears in almost every culture of the ancient world.
The Sumerian Flood Story is considered the first written account of the popular myth of a worldwide flood sent by divine agency which appears in almost every culture of the ancient world. The seemingly universal treatment of the same story has suggested to some that there must have once been such an event, which people of different cultures, independently, responded to with the creation of the story.

Modern-day scholars tend to reject this interpretation and, instead, suggest that an early story of a Great Flood and the destruction of humanity resonated with an ancient audience and came to be widely repeated, traveling through trade from one region to another. Each culture adapted the story to their own needs and vision and so the original was altered, to greater or lesser degrees, as it was told – and then written down – in different locales. The original may or may not have been the Sumerian Flood Story but many scholars in the present day, including Stephanie Dalley, believe it was.

 

[Bill]

Eridu Genesis 4)

The British archaeologist Sir Leonard Wooley (l. 1880-1960) challenged this latter claim through his excavations at the ruins of ancient Ur in the 1920s. During the 1928-1929 excavation season, Wooley sank a series of shafts into the soil and determined there had been significant flooding in the region but that this was a local, not a global, event and, further, was not a singular incident but had happened a number of times when the Tigris and Euphrates rivers overflowed their banks.

Wooley's excavations were mirrored elsewhere in Mesopotamia by other archaeologists who came to the same conclusion. The historicity and originality of the biblical narrative of the Great Flood could no longer be maintained and Usher's Chronology was challenged and dismissed by scholars (although both are still maintained by Christians in the present day who maintain the so-called Young Earth View). Scholar Stephanie Dalley, commenting on further excavations in Mesopotamia throughout the 20th century, writes:

No flood deposits are found in third-millennium strata, and Archbishop Usher's date for the Flood of 2349 BC, which was calculated using numbers in Genesis at face value and which did not recognize how highly schematic Biblical chronology is for such early times, is now out of the question. (5)

The small tablet of the Sumerian Flood story found at Nippur, missing much of its narrative, had provided Wooley with the academic freedom to make the kind of assertions concerning the flood in the 1920s which would have been unthinkable a mere century before.

There is some new evidence that allows such an event to occur as something of a natural occurance. When the earths poles change. It is believed the planet goes through a tumultuous event that lasts for a few days maybe a week. But the event will cause huge tsunamis along with earthquakes and other things wiping out the majority of the planet. It is believed that the Earth is close to doing this again. They believe it happens roughly every 12,000 years

 

[JLG]

Eridu Genesis 9)

Dalley writes:

All these flood stories may be explained as deriving from the one Mesopotamian original, used in traveler's tales for over two thousand years, along the great caravan routes of Western Asia: translated, embroidered, and adapted according to local tastes to give a myriad of divergent versions. (7)

The concept of a god's wrath – or the collective displeasure of many gods – causing catastrophic events was understood simply as how the world worked by ancient civilizations around the world. The story of the Great Flood would have served a number of purposes but, primarily, explained the creation of the world as the people knew it while strongly suggesting they pay greater attention to the divine will in their daily lives.

In each version of the flood story mentioned above, the gods – or God – repent of their decision – in the Genesis story, God even places the rainbow in the sky as a promise he will never flood the world again; but, to an ancient audience, this would not have meant that the Divine could not as easily send some equally dire punishment for human transgression of its will at some point in the future whenever it wanted to. The story would have then encouraged people to err on the side of caution in adhering to religious-cultural precepts in order to maintain the goodwill of a deity or deities who could as easily destroy as support them.

 

[JLG]

Eridu Genesis 10)

Timeline​

• 
  c. 2900 BCE
  Probable date of the regional Great Flood when the river Euphrates rose.
• 
  c. 2300 BCE
  The Eridu Genesis - The Sumerian Flood Story - is composed.
• 
  2100 BCE
  Ziggurats in use in Sumerian cities of Eridu, Uruk, Ur, Nippur and elsewhere
• 
  c. 600 BCE
  The city of Eridu is abandoned.

 

[JLG]

When you are using the Hebrew words, are you taking the ones written in the Torah? Or are these just Hebrew words in a modern dictionary?

Also, is it curious to you, when the scripture says God or "the God" that the noun is always masculine plural?

- Here is the link of Biblehub interlinear with all their tools!

Interlinear Bible: Greek, Hebrew, Transliterated, English, Strong's

 

[JLG]

The bible cannot be interpreted by an outside source dying mankind . As it is written sola scriptura makes the devil flee every time

Three times as it is written with three denoting the end of a mater

Mathew 4:6 -11And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;;And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.;Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.;Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Why serve the devil?

- When I went to school, i was told about the past!

- When I look at the information I found, it is very different!

- Of course, it was a different time!

- Sometimes there maybe have differences!

- But sometimes it is so similar!

- When the information given tells about the beginning of human civilization fits in such a way with the Bible, I have no words!

- And it is about the timing and the geographic sites!

- So sorry I completely disagree with you!

- it is important to get the maximum information!

- Now I want people to have a chance to think about religious corruption!

- The majority don't care!

- Many people died for it and many people will die for it!

- So people must be told to open their eyes and ears!

- So here again I completely disagree with you!

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[JLG]

There is some new evidence that allows such an event to occur as something of a natural occurance. When the earths poles change. It is believed the planet goes through a tumultuous event that lasts for a few days maybe a week. But the event will cause huge tsunamis along with earthquakes and other things wiping out the majority of the planet. It is believed that the Earth is close to doing this again. They believe it happens roughly every 12,000 years

- We can also think about a difference in the atmosphere!

- For scientists, our atmosphere didn't change a lot!

- But according to the Bible, it changed a lot especially when it deals about the flood!

- Because at this time there was no rain, there was a lot more water above!

- Thus it could completely change dating!

- And dating isn't always exact!

 

[JLG]

When you are using the Hebrew words, are you taking the ones written in the Torah? Or are these just Hebrew words in a modern dictionary?

Also, is it curious to you, when the scripture says God or "the God" that the noun is always masculine plural?

- let's have a look at some precisions!

In the Hebrew and Christian Bible, God is usually described in male terms in biblical sources, with female analogy in Genesis 1:26–27, Psalm 123:2-3, and Luke 15:8–10; a mother in Deuteronomy 32:18, Isaiah 66:13, Isaiah 49:15, Isaiah 42:14, Psalm 131:2; and a mother hen in Matthew 23:37 and Luke 13:34, although never directly referred to as being female.

Although the gender of God in Judaism is referred to in the Tanakh with masculine imagery and grammatical forms, traditional Jewish philosophy does not attribute the concept of sex to God. At times, Jewish aggadic literature and Jewish mysticism do treat God as gendered. The ways in which God is gendered have also changed across time, with some modern Jewish thinkers viewing God as outside of the gender binary. Guillaume Postel (16th century), Michelangelo Lanci (19th century), and Mark Sameth (21st century) theorize that the four letters of the personal name of God, YHWH, are a cryptogram which the priests of ancient Israel would have read in reverse as huhi, "heshe", signifying a dual-gendered deity.

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Hi. In the Jewish access, G-d has no gender. We believe that the one who created this world is not one of it. And gender ARE ALSO some of his great creation, and G-d didn’t create himself according to the people habits, like having a gender. It is because G-d is not ‘definitionable’, becuase any definition we have- based on the material world we know, but G-d is up than the material. The material can not create himself, and that means that the creator (that we all call G-d) is more than material, and we can not actually know, because if we know G-d -then we were him. . It is a bit hard to understand, I know.


But if you ask about the verbs conjugation or adjectives- we are doing that in male gender. Not because we consider him as a male (neither a female) but because of a reason that just an orthodox Jew (and not all of the them, just some, even I knew it just a while ago) will know the reason for using male gender for describing G-d:


In our Torah (bible, but also our Rabbi’s old books), the concept “male” symbols someone who give, and “female” as someone who get. So BECAUSE a women is someone who get from her husband-she named “female” , and male, that in Jewdaism is the one who give in relationship with his wife-named “male”.


(You can see it, a women need her man more and often then he is. He can spend some time alone or not hearing good things from his wife, but wife need this place of getting his attention)


This is why we congugate G-d as a male gender, because he is someone who just give, and not take. G-d does not NEED us to do something, he WANTS us to do things. We are not doing any favor to G-d for anything we are doing. Everything we do- is for us, and it is really easy to understood because if G-d created this amazing world, and each body of as is a endless origin to learn from and not finish learning, then why he need us so much? The only reason in the Jewish access that G-d created us- is to make just good for us.

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- Quite interesting indeed!

- There are so many differences between cultures!

- Thus think about Ancient cultures!

 

[Garee]

When you are using the Hebrew words, are you taking the ones written in the Torah? Or are these just Hebrew words in a modern dictionary?

Also, is it curious to you, when the scripture says God or "the God" that the noun is always masculine plural?

Hebrews words need to be defined and shown usage just like the Greek words or Latin.etc

Like the Greek apostle meaning sent Angelos (messenger).Not angel a fake word And not highly venerable puffed-up ones as those that lord it over the understanding or faith of the non-venerable pew warmers or show time observers. They look to a legion of what are called patron saints his and hers gods in the likeness of dying mankind

1Corinthians 4:6-7 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure (Parable) transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.;For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

What good is the original tongue if the meaning has been changed???? Therefore, violating the loving commandment not to change the meaning of even one word it can take away the authorship and give it to another invisible author Satan the god of plagiarism .Another similar loving warning "do not add new meaning it takes away from the old is in respect to sola scriptura. in Revelation. Both loving commandments working as one to protect in part and whole

Deuteronomy 4:2 ;Ye shall not add unto the word (singular) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it,(singular ) that ye may keep the commandments (plural) of the Lord your God which I command you.
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The first sent messenger apostle Abel when sent Cain the first-born murdered the second born by the father of lying signs and wonders as if true prophecy Satan setting the standard of false prophecy oral traditions of dying mankind. Just change the meaning to "thou shall surely not die" adding false prophecy four words "neither shall you touch".

The beginning of the temptation in that parable of the hidden tree of eternal life. The father of lies lusting building blocks of false pride The lust of the flesh a desire to see that which is naked from view (hidden) draws by the lust of the eye empowering to touch death

 

[JLG]

Hebrews words need to be defined and shown usage just like the Greek words or Latin.etc

Like the Greek apostle meaning sent Angelos (messenger).Not angel a fake word And not highly venerable puffed-up ones as those that lord it over the understanding or faith of the non-venerable pew warmers or show time observers. They look to a legion of what are called patron saints his and hers gods in the likeness of dying mankind

1Corinthians 4:6-7 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure (Parable) transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.;For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

What good is the original tongue if the meaning has been changed???? Therefore, violating the loving commandment not to change the meaning of even one word it can take away the authorship and give it to another invisible author Satan the god of plagiarism .Another similar loving warning "do not add new meaning it takes away from the old is in respect to sola scriptura. in Revelation. Both loving commandments working as one to protect in part and whole

Deuteronomy 4:2 ;Ye shall not add unto the word (singular) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it,(singular ) that ye may keep the commandments (plural) of the Lord your God which I command you.
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The first sent messenger apostle Abel when sent Cain the first-born murdered the second born by the father of lying signs and wonders as if true prophecy Satan setting the standard of false prophecy oral traditions of dying mankind. Just change the meaning to "thou shall surely not die" adding false prophecy four words "neither shall you touch".

The beginning of the temptation in that parable of the hidden tree of eternal life. The father of lies lusting building blocks of false pride The lust of the flesh a desire to see that which is naked from view (hidden) draws by the lust of the eye empowering to touch death

- They did it with Yah.weh so everything is possible!

- But Yah.weh said it was his name forever!

- How is it possible to go against Yah.weh?

- Who organized it?

- Corruption is everywhere!

- People are used to it!

- It is not an excuse!

- The Hebrews did it and they lost everything!

 

[Garee]

- When I went to school, i was told about the past!

- When I look at the information I found, it is very different!

- Of course, it was a different time!

- Sometimes there maybe have differences!

- But sometimes it is so similar!

- When the information given tells about the beginning of human civilization fits in such a way with the Bible, I have no words!

- And it is about the timing and the geographic sites!

- So sorry I completely disagree with you!

- it is important to get the maximum information!

- Now I want people to have a chance to think about religious corruption!

- The majority don't care!

- Many people died for it and many people will die for it!

- So people must be told to open their eyes and ears!

- So here again I completely disagree with you!

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Thanks for the reply

If we do not do the will of faithful Creator, Christ (sola scriptura) but our own dying will or the will of other besides Christ. .Christ the one Holy Spirit entity. Then we have violated the written law written by the finger of God on mount Siniah on two tablets written on both sides with no room for oral traditions of dying mankind.

One to represent the Old Testament and the other the New Testament.. . .

To the written law and its testimony sola scriptura. if others speak not according to His living word the old and new as one then there is no gospel light unto their feet

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, (one) it is because there is no light in them.

Revealtion22:18-19;For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

The Bible provides all the spiritual understanding needed to please our spiritual Holy Father.

Rudiments of this corrupted dying creation have no value with the eternal things of Christ. Simply the philosophies' of dying mankind

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

 

[JLG]

Thanks for the reply

If we do not do the will of faithful Creator, Christ (sola scriptura) but our own dying will or the will of other besides Christ. .Christ the one Holy Spirit entity. Then we have violated the written law written by the finger of God on mount Siniah on two tablets written on both sides with no room for oral traditions of dying mankind.

One to represent the Old Testament and the other the New Testament.. . .

To the written law and its testimony sola scriptura. if others speak not according to His living word the old and new as one then there is no gospel light unto their feet

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, (one) it is because there is no light in them.

Revealtion22:18-19;For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

The Bible provides all the spiritual understanding needed to please our spiritual Holy Father.

Rudiments of this corrupted dying creation have no value with the eternal things of Christ. Simply the philosophies' of dying mankind

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

- I understand it is difficult for many, even impossible, to understand why someone may speak about corruption!

- The problem is that all the books of the Bible speak about human corruption!

- In fact, it is everywhere!

- And Jesus speaks about it all the time!

- And the book of Revelation tells us to

“Come out of her, My people,

so that you will not share in her sins

or contract any of her plagues.

5For her sins are piled up to heaven,

and God has remembered her iniquities.

6Give back to her as she has done to others;

pay her back double for what she has done;

mix her a double portion in her own cup.

7As much as she has glorified herself and lived in luxury,

give her the same measure of torment and grief.

In her heart she says, ‘I sit as queen;

I am not a widow and will never see grief.’

8Therefore her plagues will come in one day—

death and grief and famine—

and she will be consumed by fire,

for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.”

- Unfortunately, according to Revelation 17, many people are following her and they will share her destiny!

 

[Bill]

- let's have a look at some precisions!

In the Hebrew and Christian Bible, God is usually described in male terms in biblical sources, with female analogy in Genesis 1:26–27, Psalm 123:2-3, and Luke 15:8–10; a mother in Deuteronomy 32:18, Isaiah 66:13, Isaiah 49:15, Isaiah 42:14, Psalm 131:2; and a mother hen in Matthew 23:37 and Luke 13:34, although never directly referred to as being female.

Although the gender of God in Judaism is referred to in the Tanakh with masculine imagery and grammatical forms, traditional Jewish philosophy does not attribute the concept of sex to God. At times, Jewish aggadic literature and Jewish mysticism do treat God as gendered. The ways in which God is gendered have also changed across time, with some modern Jewish thinkers viewing God as outside of the gender binary. Guillaume Postel (16th century), Michelangelo Lanci (19th century), and Mark Sameth (21st century) theorize that the four letters of the personal name of God, YHWH, are a cryptogram which the priests of ancient Israel would have read in reverse as huhi, "heshe", signifying a dual-gendered deity.

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Hi. In the Jewish access, G-d has no gender. We believe that the one who created this world is not one of it. And gender ARE ALSO some of his great creation, and G-d didn’t create himself according to the people habits, like having a gender. It is because G-d is not ‘definitionable’, becuase any definition we have- based on the material world we know, but G-d is up than the material. The material can not create himself, and that means that the creator (that we all call G-d) is more than material, and we can not actually know, because if we know G-d -then we were him. . It is a bit hard to understand, I know.


But if you ask about the verbs conjugation or adjectives- we are doing that in male gender. Not because we consider him as a male (neither a female) but because of a reason that just an orthodox Jew (and not all of the them, just some, even I knew it just a while ago) will know the reason for using male gender for describing G-d:


In our Torah (bible, but also our Rabbi’s old books), the concept “male” symbols someone who give, and “female” as someone who get. So BECAUSE a women is someone who get from her husband-she named “female” , and male, that in Jewdaism is the one who give in relationship with his wife-named “male”.


(You can see it, a women need her man more and often then he is. He can spend some time alone or not hearing good things from his wife, but wife need this place of getting his attention)


This is why we congugate G-d as a male gender, because he is someone who just give, and not take. G-d does not NEED us to do something, he WANTS us to do things. We are not doing any favor to G-d for anything we are doing. Everything we do- is for us, and it is really easy to understood because if G-d created this amazing world, and each body of as is a endless origin to learn from and not finish learning, then why he need us so much? The only reason in the Jewish access that G-d created us- is to make just good for us.

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- Quite interesting indeed!

- There are so many differences between cultures!

- Thus think about Ancient cultures!

Actually it wasn't the male and female that I was looking at so much, as it was the plural part of God. Because I remember talking to a Hebrew teacher who said that the Israelites at the time of the Torah believed that God was two individual beings but One God.

It is why when you translate the word God it always has a plural meaning to it

 

[Garee]

- I understand it is difficult for many, even impossible, to understand why someone may speak about corruption!

- The problem is that all the books of the Bible speak about human corruption!

- In fact, it is everywhere!

- And Jesus speaks about it all the time!

- And the book of Revelation tells us to

“Come out of her, My people,

so that you will not share in her sins

or contract any of her plagues.

5For her sins are piled up to heaven,

and God has remembered her iniquities.

6Give back to her as she has done to others;

pay her back double for what she has done;

mix her a double portion in her own cup.

7As much as she has glorified herself and lived in luxury,

give her the same measure of torment and grief.

In her heart she says, ‘I sit as queen;

I am not a widow and will never see grief.’

8Therefore her plagues will come in one day—

death and grief and famine—

and she will be consumed by fire,

for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.”

- Unfortunately, according to Revelation 17, many people are following her and they will share her destiny!

Yes the bible, sola scriptura does give us information about corruption and salvation.

 

[Garee]

Actually it wasn't the male and female that I was looking at so much, as it was the plural part of God. Because I remember talking to a Hebrew teacher who said that the Israelites at the time of the Torah believed that God was two individual beings but One God.

It is why when you translate the word God it always has a plural meaning to it

Yes plural two called the "law of faith". Two laws working as one perfect .

The unseen spoken law "let there be" 1# and its testimony "it was God alone good" 2# the dynamic dual

Two is the word used in parables to indicate our invisible God has spoken. Called Elohim in Genesis 1:26

Two laws the letter Death (thou shall not) and that of faith the unseen law eternal life

Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.


Remember the Bible or book of law as to its letter (as it is written sola scriptura ) is the source of death and eternal life If life we eat of its fruit death its fruit (unbelief)

Romans 2:27-29And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter(death); whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, (death) that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.(death)

By the witness of one invisible Holy Father made known by the things made temporal things the Son of man Jesus . The dynmic dual

By the false witness of a imaginary other invisible gods No judgment can be made .No praying to what some call paton saints .The living seking after the dead

The law as the witness of two cannot be broken .Two is a company of two walking empowered by one. Three or more a crowd. In that way a person cannot separate the "let there be" Law from its "good testimony"

Sola scriptura the old "Let there be law" demonstrated the ressurection power of born again faith

Isaiah8:19-20;And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?;To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word,(sola scriptura) it is because there is no light in them.

 

[JLG]

Actually it wasn't the male and female that I was looking at so much, as it was the plural part of God. Because I remember talking to a Hebrew teacher who said that the Israelites at the time of the Torah believed that God was two individual beings but One God.

It is why when you translate the word God it always has a plural meaning to it

Why the confusion with the word “elohim”? Some try to claim it is proof of polytheism, or a trinity, disregarding all the grammar and multiple meanings the word carries. It comes about because people try to make simplistic interpretations of Hebrew, a language with a far smaller vocabulary than English, where words frequently have multiple meanings dependent on context.


Before discussing potential meanings, lets remove one common misconception: The hebrew suffix “-im” does NOT always mean a plural. Here are a few examples that show its usage in the singular form:TzoharyIM - Midday, mayIM- water, shamayIM- sky.

So lets analyze the word Elohim:

When being used to refer to G-d- it is a plural in the context of the royal "we" of english. Additionally- it is plural since it encompases G-d’s aspect as the ultimate King, Ruler and Judge- with the implication that every king, ruler or judge is a reflection of that aspect of G-d. For this reason, there is special blessing that Orthodox Jews say when they see a king (independent of the King's religion- merely having that position means they are connected to this aspect of G-d).

The next major meaning of elohim is as a reference to any of the supernatural forces through which G-d operates in this world. None of these kochot (another term for supernatural forces) have any free will (including angels), but merely act as an extension of G-d. Thus in this context elohim is used to refer to angels or any other supernatural force controlled by G-d.

A third context is when the Bnei Elohim (Sons of Elohim) are referenced. here it is talking about the children of judges who strayed from the path of their parents who, as judges and thus reflective of this aspect of G-d, and abused their position in society.

A fourth meaning: Any human judge (as in meaning number three which referred to their children)

A fifth meaning: Anyone with power over someone else- thus G-d tells Moshe (Moses) "You will be elohim to Pharoah and Aaron will be your Navi (normally translated as prophet but in this context meaning spokesperson just as a prophet is a spokes person for G-d)"

So- the problem with the translations is that they translate Elohim too simplistically- this is the reason Jews study the Hebrew only and do not use translations.

 

[JLG]

The city of Uruk 1)

Uruk was one of the most important cities (at one time, the most important) in ancient Mesopotamia. According to the Sumerian King List, it was founded by King Enmerkar c. 4500 BCE. Uruk is best known as the birthplace of writing c. 3200 BCE as well as for its architecture and other cultural innovations.

Located in the southern region of Sumer (modern day Warka, Iraq), Uruk was known in the Aramaic language as Erech which, it is believed, gave rise to the modern name for the country of Iraq, though another likely derivation is Al-Iraq, the Arabic name for the region of Babylonia. The city of Uruk is most famous for its great king Gilgamesh and the epic tale of his quest for immortality but also for a number of firsts in the development of civilization which occurred there.

It is considered the first true city in the world, the origin of writing, the first example of architectural work in stone and the building of great stone structures, the origin of the ziggurat, and the first city to develop the cylinder seal which the ancient Mesopotamians used to designate personal property or as a signature on documents. Considering the importance the cylinder seal had for the people of the time, and that it stood for one's personal identity and reputation, Uruk could also be credited as the city which first recognized the importance of the individual in the collective community.

The city was continuously inhabited from its founding until c. 300 CE when, owing to both natural and man-made influences, people began to desert the area. By this time, it had depleted natural resources in the surrounding area and was no longer a major political or commercial power. It lay abandoned and buried until excavated in 1853 by William Loftus for the British Museum.