Is TalkJesus Nineveh?

[Brad Huber]

I wasn't being disagreeable, but just pointing out a fuzzy thinking that I find present, persistent, and pernicious in the mindset of almost all Christians.

While these define God as = (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) when saying "God" they just mean "Father." Semantics? No. I don't think so. I rather think that if we are to present truth, we need to be as clear as possible in our definitional framework and flee from language that inculcates confusion. Nobody ever says God when they mean Jesus. Instead, they mean the Father.

Had you said the Father did not write the OT, there would have been no need for me to comment.

As it stands, though, it was intended to be partly humorous while pointing out a very real problem with fuzzy thinking in the definitional framework.

God bless,
Rhema

Extreme nitpicking for the sake of what you consider a point in your favor. Its not a game, but your words show that you seem to think so.

 

[Rhema]

Extreme nitpicking for the sake of what you consider a point in your favor. Its not a game, but your words show that you seem to think so.

No, that's just your personal perspective. I don't care about "points." Period. I care about truth. But your words seem to show that you need to think this way in order to belittle me and maintain your ego status. I don't (need to think this way).

And I gave you my answer:

"I rather think that if we are to present truth, we need to be as clear as possible in our definitional framework and flee from language that inculcates confusion."

Do you disagree and think the above is just "nitpicking"? (The fact that I need to state that I'm asking a question, and not making a statement in the form of a question just boggles the mind.)

I have never met any Christian who meant "Jesus" when saying "God" (and even you did this in your post). This is why Christianity has failed in the academic world. It's all just fuzzy incoherent and disconnected statements of doctrine because Christians cannot maintain a coherent definitional framework. (To translate... "They just can't seem to think straight.)

It's also the reason why the Mormons are starting to win.

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints reports record convert baptisms

From July 2024 to June 2025, the Church had the most convert baptisms of any 12-month period in its history. The calendar year 2024 saw 308,000 people join the Church, the most in the past 25 years and about 50,000 more people than in 2023.

www.yahoo.com

Christians are more interested in supporting and defending their denomination's "Statement of Faith" doctrines instead of providing clear answers to uncomfortable questions.

Max Tegmark defined humility as a person who could admit that he has Questions he cannot answer, instead of dictating Answers that no one can question.

It's a shame that Christians (writ large) can't seem to understand this.

Rhema

 

[Brad Huber]

No, that's just your personal perspective. I don't care about "points." Period. I care about truth. But your words seem to show that you need to think this way in order to belittle me and maintain your ego status. I don't (need to think this way).

And I gave you my answer:



Rhema

Do you ever get tired of being a troll?

 

[Rhema]

Do you ever get tired of being a troll?

Do you ever get tired of being clueless?

 

[B-A-C]

Why would I post anything that I don't genuinely believe?

Why would anyone?

It actually happens quite frequently. Usually out of spite.

 

[B-A-C]

Martin Luther didn't belong to any denomination but his own... having only one member - himself.

I've always wondered at what point did he realize that he was no longer Catholic?

Well, he definitely was a Roman Catholic priest at one point. But as you say.. somewhere along the way...
I don't know how long it took before he nailed the 95 thesis to the door, but I would say that was a pretty good
declaration to the church, I'm not following this anymore.

 

[B-A-C]

While these define God as = (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) when saying "God" they just mean "Father." Semantics? No. I don't think so. I rather think that if we are to present truth, we need to be as clear as possible in our definitional framework and flee from language that inculcates confusion. Nobody ever says God when they mean Jesus. Instead, they mean the Father.

I would say this tends to be a denominational thing (or in some cases, non-denominational).
For example in the church I belong to... if you say "God created the heavens and the earth".... No one thinks of the Father, we think of Jesus.

If we say something like "God saved me" again, we typically don't think of the Father.

But again... this isn't 100% true for everyone. I have noticed Garee tends to call Jesus the heavenly Father...
I think he is the only one who does that here.

 

[Garee]

Martin Luther didn't belong to any denomination but his own... having only one member - himself.

I've always wondered at what point did he realize that he was no longer Catholic?

Rhema

I would offer

There is no defense against the Christians defense (sola scriptura) Born again believers defend that which defends us. Just like any religion, like that of Catholicism they hold their written authority I heard it through the dying fathers grapevine above that of sola scriptura . creating divine dying mankind. Called first Sacred I heard it through the dying father's grapevine Tradition. . .then listed second Sacred Scripture the back up .like with the father of lies .If you are the Son of God the Bible says turn stones into daily bread Satan has no clue to the understanding of the gospel

The dive book of 80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."

Mr Luther realizes it by the faith or power of Christ, it was given to Martin like the apostle Paul.

They that rejected sola scriptura served the teaching of dying mankind "a man must teach us" (1 John 2:26-27)

They called brother Martin a heretic They in effect said all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) was heresy so they could keep their false worldly intellectual gospel. . they say we have the koine Greek mythology

God is not a dying Jewish man as King of kings

One author of the book of prophecy the gospel of our salvation

Martin Luther was never alone he had sola scriptura to protect him from those who say the gospel is after the sent ones (apostles) dying mankind. Therefore, they worship the feet of apostles as if it was their gospel "gods in the likeness of men "

Some think the one author of scripture who loving commands the believer not to change the meaning of the one-word apostle seeing it can cause spiritual plagiarism; therefore the loving commandment must be avoided so they can create another author like what some call the gospel of Thomas or gospel of Enoch. carnal false gospels

Those seduced to believe the lie that we do need dying mankind to teach us do ignore the loving commandments

1 John 2:26-27 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.;But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


Deuteronomy 4:2Ye shall not add unto the word (apostle.. . .sent messenger, UPS, Fed X. Air mail, pony Express etc) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it (apostle . . sent messenger, UPS, Fed X. Air mail, pony Express etc), that ye may keep the commandments(the whole book of prophecies) of the Lord your God which I command you.