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Firmament [N] https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/smiths-bible-dictionary/firmament.html
from the Vulgate firmamentum, which is used as the translation of the Hebrew raki'a . This word means simply "expansion." It denotes the space or expanse like an arch appearing immediately above us. They who rendered raki'a by firmamentum regarded it as a solid body. The language of Scripture is not scientific but popular, and hence we read of the sun rising and setting, and also here the use of this particular word. It is plain that it was used to denote solidity as well as expansion. It formed a division between the waters above and the waters below ( Genesis 1:7 ). The raki'a supported the upper reservoir ( Psalms 148:4 ). It was the support also of the heavenly bodies ( Genesis 1:14 ), and is spoken of as having "windows" and "doors" ( Genesis 7:11 ; Isaiah 24:18 ; Malachi 3:10 ) through which the rain and snow might descend.


Does the Bible Say the Sky Is Solid?

 

Firmament [N] Firmament. - Smith's Bible Dictionary Online

from the Vulgate firmamentum, which is used as the translation of the Hebrew raki'a . This word means simply "expansion." It denotes the space or expanse like an arch appearing immediately above us. They who rendered raki'a by firmamentum regarded it as a solid body. The language of Scripture is not scientific but popular, and hence we read of the sun rising and setting, and also here the use of this particular word. It is plain that it was used to denote solidity as well as expansion. It formed a division between the waters above and the waters below ( Genesis 1:7 ). The raki'a supported the upper reservoir ( Psalms 148:4 ). It was the support also of the heavenly bodies ( Genesis 1:14 ), and is spoken of as having "windows" and "doors" ( Genesis 7:11 ; Isaiah 24:18 ; Malachi 3:10 ) through which the rain and snow might descend.



Does the Bible Say the Sky Is Solid?


Firmament made up two words one part firm "to strengthen" and the other ament a suffix "the present active"

You could call it the law of faith." Let there be" and the testimonial witness of the flood "the rainbow was the good sky sign"
 
The reason for the flood, born again believers as sons of God had become unevenly yoked with non-believers (daughters of men).

Up until that time creation redeemed mankind was included in inspiration earthly.

Believers failing to honor God, then doctrines of God fell like rain. as inspired from above.

Rather than watered misted from below. . a rainbow to indicate the cloud of the invisible presence of peace. Atmospheric pressure changed as did the age of mankind it was reduced

It would seem the highest mountain before the flood was 22' 6". Lakes wading pools. The Ark 45 feet
 
The reason for the flood, born again believers as sons of God had become unevenly yoked with non-believers (daughters of men).
That "Sethite View" is a contrivance of convenience from a network of unjustified assumptions antagonistic to the remainder of the Biblical record.

The truth is that some angels rebelled against God, left their first estate and mated with earthly women. These women then gave birth to "hybrids" that grew to be of large stature aka "giants." There are 36 tribes of giants mentioned in the Holy Bible (you didn't hear that from your hireling pastors). The giants interbred with everything in sight, including animals. The giants were also cannibalistic. This is the key to prophecy, the reason why God executed the entire planet via the flood, except for Noah's eight (because his generation was perfect i.e. was not interbred with the giants).

The Nephilim are not the giants, but the giants are Nephilim-related. After the flood, the disembodied spirits of the giants remained, which is one reason why we are told that the woman is to have power on her head (1 Cor. 11:10), because it was common knowledge concerning the fallen angels and the possibility that these malevolent creatures might again revisit our women for a repeat episode. The disembodied spirits of the giants are what we refer to as devils or demons; they are not eligible for salvation; they remain in the air about us everywhere; and they seek physical embodiment in us in order to act out their wicked nature.

FYI, dozens of tribes of giants are found in the Holy Bible:

Amalekites, Amorites, Anakim, Ashdodites, Ashkelonites (Eshkalonites), Avvim, Avites, Canaanites, Caphtorim, Ekronites, Emim (Emins),
Gazites (Gazathites), Geshurites , Gibalites (Giblites), Gibeonites, Girgashites, Gittites, Hittites, Hivites, Horites (Horims), Jebusites, Kadmonites, Kenites, Kenizzites, Maacathites, Manassites, Nephilim, Perizzites, Philistines, Rephaim, Sidonians, Zamzummim, and the Zuzim.
  • Amalekites are mentioned 25 times
  • Amorites are mentioned 87 times
  • Anakim are mentioned 9 times
  • Ashdodites are mentioned 4 times
  • Ashkelonites (Eshkalonites) are mentioned 1 time
  • Avvim are mentioned 3 times
  • Canaanites are mentioned 21 times but not all Canaanites peoples were giants.
  • Caphtorim are mentioned 2 times
  • Ekronites are mentioned 2 times
  • Emim (aka Emins) are mentioned 3 times
  • Gazites (Gazathites) are mentioned 2 times
  • Geshurites are mentioned 6 times
  • Gibeonites are mentioned 8 times
  • Gibalites (Giblites) are mentioned 2 times
  • Girgashites are mentioned 7 times
  • Gittites are mentioned 10 times
  • Hittites are mentioned 48 times
  • Hivites are mentioned 25 times
  • Horites (Horims) are mentioned 7 times
  • Jebusites are mentioned 41 times
  • Kadmonites are mentioned 1 time
  • Kenites are mentioned 11 times
  • Kenizzites are mentioned 4 times
  • Maacathites are mentioned 8 times
  • Manassites are mentioned 4 times
  • Nephilim are mentioned 2 times
  • Perizzites are mentioned 23 times
  • Philistines are mentioned 290 times but many Philistines were not giants.
  • Rephaim are mentioned 18 times
  • Sidonians are mentioned 16 times
  • Zamzummim are mentioned 1 time
  • Zuzim are mentioned 1 time
That is a total of 688 mentions of tribes, people groups, or nations of (or containing) giants.

There are 19 giants that are named specifically in the Holy Bible:
  • Adoni-zedek (aka Adonizedek, Adonizedec), King of Jerusalem, is mentioned 2 times
  • Agag, King of the Amalakites, is mentioned 8 times
  • Ahiman (anakim) is mentioned 4 times
  • Amalek is mentioned 24 times
  • Arba is mentioned 3 times
  • Gog is mentioned 11 times
  • Magog is mentioned 5 times
  • Goliath is mentioned 6 times
  • Hoham, King of Hebron, is mentioned 1 time
  • Horam, King of Gezer, is mentioned 1 time
  • Jabin, King of Hazor, is mentioned 7 times
  • Jobab, King of Madon, is mentioned 9 times
  • Lahmi is mentioned 1 time
  • Nimrod is mentioned 4 times
  • Og of Bashan is mentioned 22 times
  • Sheshai (anakim) is mentioned 3 times
  • Sihon, King of the Amorites, is mentioned 39 times
  • Sippai is mentioned 1 time
  • Talmai (anakim) is mentioned 6 times
That is a total of 157 mentions of specific giants.

688 + 157 = 845 total references to individual giants, tribes, and people groups that included or were associated with giants in the Holy Bible.

re: the OP:
a rainbow to indicate the cloud of the invisible presence of peace.
A curved refracted rainbow is a result of a curved dome/firmament.

The perp's are trying hard to "disappear" the 1958 Encyclopedia Britannica:

 
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The truth is that some angels rebelled against God, left their first estate and mated with earthly women. These women then gave birth to "hybrids" that grew to be of large stature aka "giants." There are 36 tribes of giants mentioned in the Holy Bible (you didn't hear that from your hireling pastors). The giants interbred with everything in sight, including animals. The giants were also cannibalistic. This is the key to prophecy, the reason why God executed the entire planet via the flood, except for Noah's eight (because his generation was perfect i.e. was not interbred with the giants).

The Nephilim are not the giants, but the giants are Nephilim-related. After the flood, the disembodied spirits of the giants remained, which is one reason why we are told that the woman is to have power on her head (1 Cor. 11:10), because it was common knowledge concerning the fallen angels and the possibility that these malevolent creatures might again revisit our women for a repeat episode. The disembodied spirits of the giants are what we refer to as devils or demons; they are not eligible for salvation; they remain in the air about us everywhere; and they seek physical embodiment in us in order to act out their wicked nature.
I would offer. No such creation called angels

Whatever the "renown" represents they remain today after the flood. men of renown

Not. Angels a fake word disembodied spirit gods of the false renown some call patron saints

Genisis 6:4&;There were giants (renown) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The Greek word Angelos translated in English is "messenger" or "apostle", The prophets that declare the will of our Holy Father. God sends them out two by two. In that way as many that are led by the Spirit of Christ are born again sons of God

The Greek word Angelos does not mean disembodied spirits in the likeness of men

That idea was developed by Catholicism they must call patron saints his and hers gods .They need many gods as a foundation

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Galatians 4:6And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Philippians 2:15That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst ofa crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

1 John 3:1Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be:but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Nephilim is not a nation but is an honor bestowed the famous iused 9 times It applies to the enemy of Christ as well as the believers.

An example the renowned of the enemy. The giant Goliath was defeated with God's renown David. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers 1:16&version=KJV

Numbers 1:16These were the renowned of the congregation, princes of the tribes of their fathers, heads of thousands in Israel.
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Numbers 16:2And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:

Isaiah 14:20
Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned. . .(of Christ)

Ezekiel 16:14
And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.

Ezekiel 16:15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown,and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

The Babylonians, and all the Chaldeans, Pekod, and Shoa, and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them: all of them desirable young men, captains and rulers, great lords and renowned, all of them riding upon (renowned) horses.

Ezekiel 26:17 And they shall take up a lamentation for thee, and say to thee, How art thou destroyed, that wast inhabited of seafaring men, the renowned (famous ) city, which wast strong in the sea, she and her inhabitants, which cause their terror to be on all that haunt it!

Ezekiel 34:29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown,and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.

Ezekiel 39:13Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord God.

Daniel 9:15
And now, O Lord our God, that hast brought thy people forth out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand, and hast gotten thee renown, as at this day; we have sinned, we have done wickedly.

The renown speak of all vehicles used in combat to include horses

Revelation 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, (renown) and the flesh of captains (renown) and the flesh of mighty men,(renown) and the flesh of horses,(renown) and of them (renown) that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Same warning before the flood that is in effect today.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers:(daughters of men) for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
 
No such creation called angels
The word angel/angels appears 295 times in the Holy Bible.

The term translated "the Sons of God" is, in the Hebrew, B'nai HaElohim, "Sons of Elohim," which is a term consistently used in the Old Testament for angels, and it is never used of believers in the Old Testament. It was so understood by the ancient rabbinical sources and by the early church fathers. Attempts to apply this term to "godly leadership" is without Scriptural foundation.

The Biblical term "Sons of Elohim" (that is, of the Creator Himself), is confined to the direct creation by the divine hand and not to those born to those of their own order. The attempt to apply the term "Sons of Elohim" in a broader sense has no textual basis and obscures the precision of its denotative usage.

Whatever the "renown" represents they remain today after the flood. men of renown
renown = reputation

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them ...(Gen. 6:4).

Nephilim is not a nation but is an honor bestowed the famous iused 9 times It applies to the enemy of Christ as well as the believers.
Not "believers." The Nephilim: These were the Sons of God who in Genesis interbred with humans, creating a race of giants. They were called “The Watchers” in The Book of Enoch.

Josephus tells about the Jewish battle to wipe out the Nephilim in the Promised Land. He wrote that after the Jewish fighters had moved from Hebron to battle the Gibborim:

“And when they had taken it, they slew all the inhabitants. There were till then left a race of giants, who had bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other men, that they were surprising to the sight and terrible to the hearing. The bones of these men are still shown to this very day, unlike to any credible relations of other men.” - Josephus, Antiquities, 5.2.3.
 
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The word angel/angels appears 295 times in the Holy Bible.

The term translated "the Sons of God" is, in the Hebrew, B'nai HaElohim, "Sons of Elohim," which is a term consistently used in the Old Testament for angels, and it is never used of believers in the Old Testament. It was so understood by the ancient rabbinical sources and by the early church fathers. Attempts to apply this term to "godly leadership" is without Scriptural foundation.

The Biblical term "Sons of Elohim" (that is, of the Creator Himself), is confined to the direct creation by the divine hand and not to those born to those of their own order. The attempt to apply the term "Sons of Elohim" in a broader sense has no textual basis and obscures the precision of its denotative usage.
Yes 295 times as a fake word coined in the 10th century. used to give the idea of another kind of Spirit other than the Holy Spirit .Today called patron saints the legion of disembodied workers with a familiar spirit his and hers gods

Mark 5:9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

Legion Satan the one spirit of lies that works in antichrists many ,

Antichrist, another teaching authority other than the word of God sola scriptura

False prophecy oral traditions of dying mankind into many gods .Violating the loving commandment to have no other gods in the likeness of men before Christ the husband

Like in Mathew 16:22-23 when the antichrist Satan brought false prophecy through Peter one of many antichrists' the denier.

With false prophecy inspired by Satan Peter rebuked our heavenly Father and forbid Jesus the Son of man from doing the will of our invisible God. Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy of the Son of man, Jesus over and over three times.

Same legion (gods) spoken of in 2 Samuel

1 Samuel 28:13And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.

We commune with one God. not legion

1 Corinthians 8:4-6;As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, as there be gods many, and lords many,But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
The Biblical term "Sons of Elohim"
Same as sons of God the believers that are led by the Spirt of God Christ Elohim . The dynamic dual. The Son of man seen demonstrating the power of the unseen Holy Father . Jesus the first born of many sons of God (born again) believers

renown = reputation

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them ...(Gen. 6:4).

Yes reputation like movie stars not Giants like NBA .Even little ones like David Gods renown who slew the renown of the enemy the big guy Goliath

They are still here after the flood and the same warning is applied

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers:(daughters of men) for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
 
Rather, "angel" is from a semitic word (Arabic).
Thanks. The semitic word comes the for Hebrew Malak meaning messenger. How beautiful are the feet that bring prophecy the word of God.

Isaiah 52:7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet
of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!

Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Believers are yoked with Christ the husband not a legion of apostles (sent ones) or the fake word angel

Matthew 26:53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels? messengers

Luke 8:30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
 
You would need to elaborate on that.
Hi Thanks

I would offer. The Greek word Angelos translated in English is "messenger" with no other meaning attached. The word angel a homophone sounds the same but has an entirely different understanding.

The word Angel was first coined in the 10th century by the Greek Orthodox with Roman Catholics. Two denominations that sought after what is called patron saints a legion of his and hers gods in the likeness of mankind. Therefore, fulfilling the need of the legion of disembodied spirit gods .

Making the one Spirit of our one Holy Father into many fathers dying mankind.

In the end there are two spirits we are to concern ourselves with .

Christ in us our Emanuel and the legion many gods in the likeness of dying mankind

Angelos messengers as apostles. How beatiful are their feet shod with the gospel of Christ (sola scriptura)

Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent?(messenger Angelos) as it is written,(sola scriptura) How beautiful are the feet of them (messenger Angelos) that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Its chrsit in us not a legion of gods in the likeness of men ,

I would think the word Angel should be erased for any translation.
 
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In the end there are two spirits we are to concern ourselves with .
So, there are "good" angels...

...and there are "bad" angels: And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. (Jude 1:6).

Where is the issue?

I would think the word Angel should be erased for any translation.
Today's versions of the Holy Bible have necessarily been altered for copyright purpo$e$. Your "angel" gripe may have a basis in fact in those translations, but not in the uncopyrighted Holy Bible itself.
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So, there are "good" angels...

...and there are "bad" angels: And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. (Jude 1:6).

Where is the issue?
The issue other than eternal invisible God who is not a man as us?

There is one good teaching master, God not seen and one apposing spirit. "Did God really say neither shall you touch it ??????"

I would think it is Christ who works in us, our Emanuel and not a legion of christs called antichrists.

Antichrists is simply another teacher authority (oral traditions of dying mankind) other than the one good kind . . . all of Christ's good things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura)

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great (lying) signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew (lying) signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

The born-again sons of God Christians will not deceived .The elect do not add and take away from the perfect book of law sealed with 7 seals till the end of time (sola scriptural)

Jude 1: I believe is describing those who went out from us because they never were of born again us. Verse 4 sets the stage certain men crept in unawares. false messenger apostle not angel a fake word

Jude1;4For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jude1:6 And the angels false apostles which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

it would be kind of difficult to sit down with a cup of coffee and entertain the things not seen

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels messenger apostles unawares.

The word is messenger not angel. No room for patron saints disembodied spirit gods in the likeness of men

Like Cain and born again Abel the first messenger (sent apostle) with the gospel and first martyr .

Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
 
Since Jesus prophesied, "As the days of Noah were, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be," it becomes essential to understand what those days included. Why did God send the judgment of the Flood in the days of Noah?

The word is messenger not angel. No room for patron saints disembodied spirit gods in the likeness of men
There are "good" messengers and there are "evil" messengers.

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell [Tartarus], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment... (2 Peter 2).

And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 6 & 7).

The allusions to "going after strange flesh," keeping "not their first estate," having "left their own habitation," and "giving themselves over to fornication," seem to clearly fit the alien intrusions of Genesis 6. (The term for "habitation" refers to their heavenly bodies from which they had disrobed. The only other use in the New Testament is 2 Corinthians 5:2, alluding to the heavenly body which the believer longs to be clothed.)

Since Jesus prophesied, "As the days of Noah were, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be," it becomes essential to understand what those days included. Why did God send the judgment of the Flood in the days of Noah?

The strange offspring also continued after the flood: "There were giants [the Nephilim] in the earth in those days, and also after that..." Any other view fails to meaningfully address the prevailing conditions "also after that." It offers no insight into the presence of the subsequent "giants" in the land of Canaan.
One of the disturbing aspects of the Old Testament record was God's instructions, upon entering the land of Canaan, to wipe out every man, woman, and child of certain tribes inhabiting the land. This is difficult to justify without the insight of a "gene pool problem" from the remaining Nephilim, Rephaim, et al., which seems to illuminate the difficulty.
 
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There are "good" messengers and there are "evil" messengers.

For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell [Tartarus], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment... (2 Peter 2).

The Greek word Angelos in English is "Messenger" with no other meaning added.

Therefore, not violating the warning in Deuteronomy 4:2 not to change the meaning of even one word apostle "meaning sent messenger" it was changed,

Changing the authority of God of giving it over to venerable dying men that lord it over the faith or understnding of the non-venerable pew warmers.

Therefore, making the false claim that the word apostle is a New Testament principle. . an apostolical succession of dying mankind. Destroying the true first apostle martyr Abel the second born used to represent the doctrine mankind must be born-again.

Cain murdered the first apostle God gave another second born to replace Abel .It was then that born again mankind could call on God and be heard (Genesis 4)

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word (singular) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it,(singular) that ye may keep the commandments (plural) of the Lord your God which I command you.

Just as the Hebrew Malak is Messenger "sent apostle" with no other meaning added. How beatiful are the feet of the apostles shod with sola scriptura)

Angel a fake word coined in the 10th century violating the loving commandment Deuteronomy 4:2
 
Yes 295 times as a fake word coined in the 10th century. used to give the idea of another kind of Spirit other than the Holy Spirit
There are two types of angels - "good" and "bad."

Nephilim is not a nation but is an honor bestowed the famous iused 9 times It applies to the enemy of Christ as well as the believers.
"Nephilim" is not an "honor." Nor does it mean "honor."

Angel a fake word coined in the 10th century violating the loving commandment Deuteronomy 4:2
That claim has still not been proven.
 
There are two types of angels - "good" and "bad."


"Nephilim" is not an "honor." Nor does it mean "honor."


That claim has still not been proven.

I would suggest God did not say during the 6 days of Creation. "let there be" a legion of angels", Disembodied spirit gods in the likeness of dying mankind.

That idea would demonstrate the Pagan foundation of Roman and Greek mythology what they must call patron saints. The unredeemed attributing the works of the laying on of hand used to represent prayer in that parable as if the power came from dying mankind apostles and not the gospel "hearing the voice of the Holy Father".

Acts14:10-13 ;Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet.(power of the gospel) And he leaped and walked.;And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.;And they called Barnabas, Jupiter;(father of gods) and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.(gospel preacher) ;Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.

Barnabus as the father of gods Paul the preacher. Simply the counterfeit gospel.

There is one kind of messenger Greek Angelos and not angel a fake word) that brings prophecy of the invisible Father. The Father call apostles Jesus the Son of man the chief

2 Corinthians 11:4-6;For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.

The word renown is used 9 times to represent super stars. The vehicles brining the gospel demonstrating the power of the Father It can be applied to both the believer and the enemy. Like the renown Goliath giant against the little renown David .One GPS (God's Positioned Shot) guided stone right between the eyes fell flat on their renowned face

Numbers 1:16These were the renowned of the congregation, princes of the tribes of their fathers, heads of thousands in Israel.

Numbers 16:2And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:

Isaiah 14:20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Ezekiel 16:14And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.

Ezekiel 16:15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

Ezekiel 23:23 The Babylonians, and all the Chaldeans, Pekod, and Shoa, and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them: all of them desirable young men, captains and rulers, great lords and renowned, all of them riding upon horses.
 
I would suggest God did not say during the 6 days of Creation. "let there be" a legion of angels", Disembodied spirit gods in the likeness of dying mankind.
Just as you have the choice to obey or rebel, the Holy Bible clearly tells us of a number of angels who chose to rebel. Simple.
 
Just as you have the choice to obey or rebel, the Holy Bible clearly tells us of a number of angels who chose to rebel. Simple.
Simply if there was such a creation of disembodied workers with a familiar spirits gods that some call patron saints.

Sola scriptura simply shows how ridiculous it is to believe in the fake word angel.

2 Kings 23:24 Moreover the workers( called angels)with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.

1 Samuel 28:13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods (angels)ascending out of the earth.
 
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