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Who Justifieth the Ungodly

Now Being Justified by His Blood !

Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him

Eternal God is not a flesh and blood man. . dying mankind.

From my experience many resist the law of Christ's faith (power) that informs the believer the faith of God is a two-fold work (#1 let there be and #2 it was good)

They say Christ in us does not need faith (power) as a work

Roman3:3;For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?;God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

As it is written (sola scriptura) protects the believer from being misjudged

How could literal blood without the essence of Spirit life justify? literal blo0d returns to the dust and is poured out at the feet of the altar to show
Holy Spirit life was given.

Exodus 29:12And thou shalt take of the blood of the bullock, and put it upon the horns of the altar with thy finger, and pour all the blood beside the bottom of the altar.

Faith as a law is a work of believing something will appear and does is a work.

James 2:1 opens with a warning of blasphemy (verse 7) not to think of dying mankind above the "let there be" and "it was good faith" (power)

James 22 My brethren, have not the faith of (belonging to) our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. Abraham and Rehab, apostles sent messengers

James 2:25;Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, (Christ working in her) when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?;For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works (let there be and it was good) is dead also

It would be blasphemy to accredit the work of Christ working in Rehab the prostitutes Rehab. He sent her as an apostle

The law of faith (not of human faith dead ) Not the letter of the law the law of works death (thou shall not or you die)

Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.. . . . (.let there be and it was God alone good

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Faith is a work. They cannot be sperate. Literal blood returns to dust
 
Eternal God is not a flesh and blood man. . dying mankind.

From my experience many resist the law of Christ's faith (power) that informs the believer the faith of God is a two-fold work (#1 let there be and #2 it was good)

They say Christ in us does not need faith (power) as a work

Roman3:3;For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?;God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

As it is written (sola scriptura) protects the believer from being misjudged

How could literal blood without the essence of Spirit life justify? literal blo0d returns to the dust and is poured out at the feet of the altar to show
Holy Spirit life was given.

Exodus 29:12And thou shalt take of the blood of the bullock, and put it upon the horns of the altar with thy finger, and pour all the blood beside the bottom of the altar.

Faith as a law is a work of believing something will appear and does is a work.

James 2:1 opens with a warning of blasphemy (verse 7) not to think of dying mankind above the "let there be" and "it was good faith" (power)

James 22 My brethren, have not the faith of (belonging to) our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. Abraham and Rehab, apostles sent messengers

James 2:25;Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, (Christ working in her) when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?;For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works (let there be and it was good) is dead also

It would be blasphemy to accredit the work of Christ working in Rehab the prostitutes Rehab. He sent her as an apostle

The law of faith (not of human faith dead ) Not the letter of the law the law of works death (thou shall not or you die)

Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.. . . . (.let there be and it was God alone good

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Faith is a work. They cannot be sperate. Literal blood returns to dust
I dont know what you talking about,you off on a wild rabbit trail
 
I dont know what you talking about,you off on a wild rabbit trail
The mystery word faith can bring many challenges. It must be rightly interpreted, or it loses its power to reveal the invisible things of Christ our husband

The word faith the "Let there be good power" is not of dying mankind sons of God Christians . . . we have no "let there be power " mysteries made known in parables

A spiritual understanding not seen by human eyes as to how Christ's faithful teaching as His power works in us . The "let there be powerful faith" works.

An understanding of the word faith is primary.

Our new- born again faith (Christ in us) can help to unravel the mysteries of faith called parables . Hidden from natural unconverted mankind. . no faith as power that could please our invisible Holy Father

It does not come from our own dead faith or belief (Hebrew4) that we can offer towards Him. . who Christ alone works in us to both hear his understanding and give us a desire to do it according to his faithful good powerful pleasure

Faith, the "let there be creative power". It is not of the dying creation. God is not a man.

If we say God has no faith or power to let there, be it makes us the liar stuck in a rabbit hole no understnding of the parable which without Christ spoke not.

Romans 3:3-4;For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief (no power) make the faith of God without effect?(powerless) God forbid: yea, let (let there be) God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

The law of Christ's faith as a labor of His love making the letter of the law death (thou shall not ) to no effect

Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith (Christ in us)

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;(Death) whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, (works righteous of ones own) that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, (law of faith believing) and not in the oldness of the letter.
 
Being Justified by His Grace !

Titus 3:7

7 That being justified by his grace, we [The Elect] should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

This does refer back to Titus 1:1-2

Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

In other words since all the Election of Grace has been Justified by Grace, it is only becoming that each one of them should be made experientially an Heir of Promise by New Birth. We are made meet as it is stated here Col 1:12-13

12 Giving thanks unto the Father not our freewill, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Also it is what is meant in 2 Cor 5:21 to be made the Righteousness of God. The word made here in 2 Cor 5:21 and Titus 3:7 is the greek word ginomai and means:


to become, i.e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being

This speaks of becoming a New Creature, a New being or Birth or man in Christ !

Also Rom 5:19b

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Being Justified by Christ's Blood or Obedience, we shall be made experientially Righteous [By New Birth] Just as because of Adam's disobedience we were made experientially unrighteous or sinners or ungodly !
 
2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
One way of taking Titus 1:2 literally is to realise that our DNA is so individual that we don't have a mirror image anywhere.
And logically as GOD designed our DNA He would have known how it would form each generation and how they would act and react as all other humans acted and reacted to them.
It logically follows that just as a grand master can watch an opponent make the first move in a game of chess and plot out all possible moves that would give him victory GOD has superior knowledge and knew how His original Earth's humans would develop over the millennia.

However this theory of mine seems to have a flaw as three times Jeremiah mentioned GOD had never imagined people woudl burn their babies to diols!
Jeremiah 7:31
They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben-hinnom so they could burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I never commanded, nor did it even enter My mind.

Jeremiah 19:5
They have built high places to Baal on which to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I never commanded or mentioned, nor did it even enter My mind.

Jeremiah 32:35
They have built the high places of Baal in the Valley of Ben-hinnom to make their sons and daughters pass through the fire to Molech—something I never commanded them, nor had it ever entered My mind, that they should commit such an abomination and cause Judah to sin.
 
For God Justifieth the Ungodly !

Rom 4:5

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

This scripture is pretty plain, the sense of which tells us that God Justifies or is Justifying those who are in a state of the Ungodly. The word ungodly is the greek word Asebes and means:

destitute of reverential awe towards God, condemning God, impious

So in light of this, if we are Justified before God at all, it was before our believing, for scripture never calls a Believer Ungodly, so we would be Justified before we believe or are called believers as here Acts 5:14

And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women )

1 Tim 4:12

Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.


Yes, for as Reconciliation, we were reconciled to God , while yet being enemies or unbelievers, by the Death or Blood of God's Son Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

So we were Justified and reconciled before God by the Death of God's Son, while being enemies or unbelievers, for how could we be one without the other ; that is Reconciled to God, before His Law and Justice, and yet not Justified before God"s Law and Justice by the same Death or Blood of Christ , while being enemies ?

For God doeth both Justifieth and Reconciles the Ungodly by the Blood of Christ, only false brethren deny this Truth ! 4
 
One way of taking Titus 1:2 literally is to realise that our DNA is so individual that we don't have a mirror image anywhere.
And logically as GOD designed our DNA He would have known how it would form each generation and how they would act and react as all other humans acted and reacted to them.
It logically follows that just as a grand master can watch an opponent make the first move in a game of chess and plot out all possible moves that would give him victory GOD has superior knowledge and knew how His original Earth's humans would develop over the millennia.

However this theory of mine seems to have a flaw as three times Jeremiah mentioned GOD had never imagined people woudl burn their babies to diols!
Jeremiah 7:31
They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben-hinnom so they could burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I never commanded, nor did it even enter My mind.

Jeremiah 19:5
They have built high places to Baal on which to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I never commanded or mentioned, nor did it even enter My mind.

Jeremiah 32:35
They have built the high places of Baal in the Valley of Ben-hinnom to make their sons and daughters pass through the fire to Molech—something I never commanded them, nor had it ever entered My mind, that they should commit such an abomination and cause Judah to sin.

It would appear we are a new creation not subject to the rudiments or DNA of this creation. After the oral traditions of dying mankind

As Sons of God, we are not what we will be. Neither male nor female, Jew nor Gentile

The other side of the coin reincarnation rebuilt or reconditioned.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
 
It would appear we are a new creation not subject to the rudiments or DNA of this creation. After the oral traditions of dying mankind

As Sons of God, we are not what we will be. Neither male nor female, Jew nor Gentile

The other side of the coin reincarnation rebuilt or reconditioned.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
How about taking your own advice? Or perhaps admits you aren't a deep thinker?
 
The Elect of God does not receive a knowledge or spiritual comfort of their Justification before God before Faith, however all of them in spite of their knowledge of it, are free from any condemnation and eternal vengeance that belongs to their sins, even before they become believers, for they all were accepted in the Beloved, and declared Righteous by the Father, because non of their sins had been imputed to them ! Eph 1:4-6, and they were totally absolved of any Punishment due them before they believed as after they believed, because the Redemption price had already been paid for their remission, all their sins had been born 1 Pet 2:24, The Soul of Christ had been Offered for them Isa 53:10

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

So the Elect of God are born Children of wrath as others by nature, but with this difference, they are absolved from all obligation to do anything that gives to God the least satisfaction for their sins, this before he receives the knowledge of the remission of sins by Faith ! 5
 
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
How about taking your own advice? Or perhaps admits you aren't a deep thinker?


The warning is Christ advice the deep as it is written (sola scriptura) thinker.

1 Corinthians 2:9-11;But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.;But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
;For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Not after the rudiments of the world ( things seen )
 
1 Corinthians 2:9-11;.;But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
I have previously posted that you people who do not have the gifts of wisdom, knowldege and discernment offered by Holy Spirit obviously cannot see the wood for the trees and are easily led to post nonsense.
 
I have previously posted that you people who do not have the gifts of wisdom, knowldege and discernment offered by Holy Spirit obviously cannot see the wood for the trees and are easily led to post nonsense.
You posted as the giver of gifts? they are not personal ID cards .My gift against yours. whose is greater

Gift Two-fold (not of us) Blessing the giver Christ who sends prophecies using Paul the gift of blessing the apostle. And the hearer the gift of hearing. Two witnesses to one gift ' the mutual work of Christ power the faith that works in both. From faith the unseen eternal to the same the gospel

Roman 1:11-17;For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith (Christ) both of you and me.Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.;For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. ;For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.. . . . . . . . . . (Christ )

I would think we defend that (sola scriptura) as it is written which mighty the sword fully defends us the sinners.

Sons of God, Christians have the living abiding words of wisdom as it (let there be) written. As it is written make the devil flee.

Three times in Mathew 4 the Holy invisible Father gave words to his apostle the Son of man Jesus as it is written then again and again . Three denoting the end of a matter in that parable

Denying sola scriptura (God's interpretation) obviously one cannot see the wood for the trees.

That can be viewed in the parable in Genesis when the father of lies added to sola scriptura as it is written. . four words of false prophecy "neither shall you touch"

Parables hide the spiritual gospel understanding preventing seeing fruit in the tree hidden in the center . A God that hides in parables (Isaiah 45:15)

Satan displaying the tools of His trade the lust of the flesh a hope mankind will lust after the things not seen and when seen topower to touch having touched and not dying instantly. . they both ate the fruit of the labor of false prophecy (neither shall you touch)

Lust of the flesh, lust of the eye. . . the two building blocks of false pride

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
 
The scripture is pretty clear about the fact that those Christ died for, even while they are enemies, that is even while they are in hostile unbelief, they have nevertheless been reconciled / justified to God, by His Death; Now that being the case, it is inconsistent with reconciliation, for any for whom Christ died, that even while they are enemies in unbelief, to yet be under the God's wrath and condemnation as per Jn 3:18,36

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

That cannot apply to any Christ died for while in unbelief

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Thats impossible for the wrath of God to be abiding on anyone reconciled to God by the death of His Son, even while they believeth not ! 4
 
What is Justification ?

One writer wrote and I quote:

Justification is an act of God's Sovereign pleasure constituting persons Righteous in the Righteousness of Another and eternally promising to the Lord Redeemer, a discharge to them upon his engagement to perform Covenant conditions perfectly for them. This sovereign Will and Compact of God that unalterably fixes the end, fixes the means conducing thereunto; and this is one of the principal means, that they should of themselves lose their own personal righteousness in Adam their Head, so that they might be alone completely Righteous in the Righteousness of the Redeemer. So far as they are to be understood to have a Representative being in their Everlasting Head, so far as considered in Him they were never otherwise than righteous. Richard Davis {Vindication of the Doctrine of Justification and Union before Faith, 1698.}
Now Two Points of note here. That is all the conditions for Justification before God, hath been fulfilled by Christ, for each Person He knew and died for Isa 53:11

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;[Why?] for he shall bear their iniquities.

It was also said of Old of Him to them I have given thee a Covenant unto the People/ Gentiles Isa 42:6-7

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

This scripture passage informs us a Mystery, that some Gentiles were partakers of the Covenant's of Promise made to Israel Eph 2:11-12

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. Which Blood is that of the New Covenant Matt 26:28

Isa 42:6 is such Covenant Promise to Israel

Also this Covenant is the Everlasting Covenant, known in time as the New Covenant.

Secondly ,It should not be ignored that the blessed effects of the Covenant, which Christ fulfilled, that these effects are made good to the Heirs of the Covenant, not for their sakes primarily, but for the sake of Him who fulfilled all the conditions of the Covenant, on their behalf, Christ ! For instance, forgiveness of all their sins [Justification] is for HIS SAKE as stated here 1 Jn 2:12

12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

This is a bullet to the head to all conditionalist, who falsely teach one is forgiven upon conditions, such as faith or repentance, thats not Truth, they are forgiven for His Names Sake. More scripture to confirm this point Eph 4:32

32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

And since Christ is also God it reads Isa 43:25

25 I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.

Thats remission of sins also. Sins can never be charged to anyone Christ died for as a matter of condemnation, that is why forgiveness of sins is also a branch of Justification !

This should stop the mouth's of those false teachers who conditions forgiveness or Justification before God on the sake of men's performances, such as Faith or Repentance!
 
The Difference !

There is a big difference in Justification before God by the Death of Christ, and Justification before our conscious by the Gift of Faith given in the New Birth. Yes even conscious Justification which brings purification and peace of heart or mind, however receiving those blessings are not Justification itself, that fact is purely and solely accomplished by the Work of Christ, His Blood, which took away our sins, before the Law and Justice of God ! His Blood cleanses us from all sin, whether we believe it or not or know it or not, that fact still remains and is credited solely to the Blood of Christ ! Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Notice Justification while being saved is future ! 4
 
What is Justification by Faith ?

Justification by faith is God's declaring personally to a person, in their consciousness, that by Christ, His Blood, they are made just, they are forgiven of all their sins, have no condemnation in Christ, so that the person perceives and lays hold of this Divine declaration by Holy Spirit given Faith. Faith or believing in Christ is not an act man performs as an condition in order to their Justification before God, for that automatically defaults to Justification by my works, and not by faith in its proper sense. Therefore faith is the primary instrument by which God declares or makes known to the Justified, that he or she is Justified, so faith is the substance of things hoped for , the reality of things [spiritual] not seen.
 
Justification by faith is justification by works.

The faith or understanding of Christ not seen is the work of Christ.

Faith is power "let there be" it cannot be separate from "it was God alone good".

By a work of his faith as it is written he sends us as apostles out two by two .

By faith or a labor of my wife's love she sent me as an apostle out on a mission to the supermarket with a written law not to add or subtract from the whole. Upon returning I receive the apostle's reward. Two homemade peanut butters cookies and a cold glass of milk
 
The Resurrection of Christ declares Justification before God !

Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Thats Right, Christ's Resurrection equals our Justification if He died for our offences !

That all those for whom Christ died, being that all their offenses were imputed to His account, so that for them He was delivered to death, so it was, that when He was raised again, it was for or because of their Justification, that is to say, that His Resurrection was a declaration of His and their Justification before God. It does not say that He rose again for the future purpose of their Justification, but because of, for that reason, was He raised again, because of their [The Ones He died for] Justification ! If Christ had not risen, faith would be vain, because those He died for would yet still be in their sins, unjustified before God.

Those who teach that Christ's Death alone does not satisfy God's Law and Justice for their Justification before God, but a subsequent work of the Spirit is needed or any type of application of it is needed to the ones Justified by Christ's Blood, they are liars and Antichrist ! Thats taking away from the Accomplishment of Christ's Blood alone ! 4
 
The Resurrection of Christ declares Justification before God !

Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Thats Right, Christ's Resurrection equals our Justification if He died for our offences !

That all those for whom Christ died, being that all their offenses were imputed to His account, so that for them He was delivered to death, so it was, that when He was raised again, it was for or because of their Justification, that is to say, that His Resurrection was a declaration of His and their Justification before God. It does not say that He rose again for the future purpose of their Justification, but because of, for that reason, was He raised again, because of their [The Ones He died for] Justification ! If Christ had not risen, faith would be vain, because those He died for would yet still be in their sins, unjustified before God.

Those who teach that Christ's Death alone does not satisfy God's Law and Justice for their Justification before God, but a subsequent work of the Spirit is needed or any type of application of it is needed to the ones Justified by Christ's Blood, they are liars and Antichrist ! Thats taking away from the Accomplishment of Christ's Blood alone ! 4

I would suggest Thats taking away from the accomplishment of Christ's Holy Spirit alone. God is not a man he has no blood.
 
When one is Justified by Faith in time, it is when God has made known to them the Mystery of His Will or Decree of their Eternal Justification, it is then they are being made consciously aware of God's Justifying sentence, that was from Eternity due to His Eternal Purpose in Christ Eph 3:11 and that Eternal Compact or Agreement in the Everlasting Covenant between the Father and Son, the Spirit bearing witness, for God makes the Covenant known to Spiritual Faith 2 Sam 23:5

Although my house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.

Ps 25:14

14 The secret of the Lord is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.

So being Justified by Faith in Time is nothing less than being made known to us our Eternal Interest in God's Eternal Covenant with His Son, and our interest in the Blood of the Everlasting Covenant Heb 13:20, and this was before being revealed to us a Mystery of God's Will Eph 1:7-9

7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;

9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

Thats Justification by Faith ! 5
 
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