Do we have freewill ? did we have freewill since the beginning ?

[emanuel88]

When we grow in this world we learn that we do not know who we are ? When we were in heaven we know who is God and he ordered as mission in this world. He sent us to do his commands and when we get here. Life hits us and we have tragedy, promblems when we grow, traumas we forget our childhood, and we don't know what were doing in our life. People we are born speaking babylon, we speak different way than the language of Eden. We were stuck by God and God said to go and confuse them.

Genesis 11:7

7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

God punish man so man cannot go attack God and create the tower of babylon. So they can challenge God and his athourity. Man speaks a variety of language and he does not speak the original Eden and he speaks babble !

When we grow up we are not told everything in the bible or told by the world. We are told to accept the way things are and we cannot change our destiny. We cannot change our sinful nature. And as humanity grew it learned freewill and learned it's limitations in this world. We are given the option to follows the world or follow God, we are given the option decide in a democracy or dicatotorship, we can choose to love or hate. The world is wrong it is in sin. For the law of God has said so and the world repeats the error thruout history and we have read man makes mistakes in history because it is it's nature as animal to need to live, eat, love, suffer, and to want to know why it's here. It must ask the questions and does not know the answer to them ?

Only when we read the bible we discover those answers and learn God's way is the way to find your purpose ! We have read in heaven they worship God and sing Kadosh, kadosh, kadosh Adonai elohei- Tzva'ot ( Holy, holy, holy is the lord God of Hosts ). Some verses explain what they do in heaven and Jesus in a verse explain for example as prayer to do God's will in heaven on earth !

We find God wanted us to sing and worship him in heaven some of you will say that is easy and simple. That is God's plan for all of humanity that was what we were sent to do originally by God when he created this planet. That's God's general plan for all of us. As we arrive were not told to do that we are told to buy our milk. go get a job, pay taxes, spent our whole ife and search why wer and worst for some they didn't find it. Sad and horrible thing that we grow up educated by the system and told lies all our life. That to be part of a social block of civilization, to be who were supposed to be we must obey and not question ?

We must give our money and time to government to find our purpose and later we realzie it's not true ? God sent you help and the bible reveals to you what is God's plan and his word. That wasn't your purpose and God's has a plan for you, a way for you to live life and be happy ? He does give to you, the world wasted you and put you here in the internet to search things and the answer was always in the bible ! You don't have money and you wasted your life doing everything the world told ya and decided for ya. Let me ask when where you smart in life ? When did you do everything you want or the personal mission God sent beside the one to make earth like heaven but finally realize you don't have to do what the world says and you wasted your whole life doing the world's plan ? Apology to you all for being hard on you and being forward !

When did you realize you change your life ? No, you didn't ? Have you accomplish the personal mission ? No, niether ! Your here in life because you don't know what it is ? Because your teachers, parents, and your friends don't know either why God brought them. They thought it is to get a good career and that you pay your taxes. And that's how it supposed to be they want you to get mad and some of them want you to mess up like they did. If you had good parents good and some teachers help, good then ! If your friends were jealous and wanted you to failed because they got messed up and realize all too late. They made the wrong decisions in life and did everything for the world. They know they mess up and want others to fail just so they can feel they achieved something. You found out you made the same mistake as them. Don't want to take responsibility for it, you don't want a solution you just do what everyone does be a victime and blame God or somene else !

 

[emanuel88]

God gave you his plan and it is what we were made in Eden to do heaven but also he sent you on another mission, the personal one where you must save your dad, save some family member, be in a place in your life where thanks to you actions you saved a person from a car accident or by accident you took someone place in line and thanks to that he went the other way and he didn't make a mistake ! What personal mission he gave it to you, you don't find easy like you want ? You had to go thru you mistakes and the worst no told you it was this hard ! And the worst you search for it and realize the personal mission was for you aunt in your life or your friend but they died and cruel fate you missed it. Your depressed and now you have the one from heaven to make earth like heaven.

Even if you can't do that one you can still do one of God's will in heaven to do unto earth and be in heaven. You can still make it ! God allows it ! I assure you will fail in life and realize your mistakes and wish you had more strength and wisdom to do those things in life you want ! You can't redo life ! You can't take life again and try to fix your errors ! You can't , once you make your decisions they are permament ! You will try and realize if you knew back then what you know you would not make those mistakes, you would do everything to change those futures and want your friends and family with you !



Now it's too late they didn't tell you because they wanted you to fail, the World will betray but God is not like the world ! He will not betray you ! He is not like us that we can die and be deceitful he more is powerful and beyond our small character and needs. So many said God saved them and didn't realize it, God saved their family, and are forever grateful he saved them ;-;. You were tricked by the world and made you waste your money and time and things you didn't need. The word told you to do something else !

You don't have to go that way, you don't ! If you could change it all i'm sure you would of done everything to save them ;-; God put that in your heart to love your family. They don't want you to go save them becuase the world lies and wants to live in sin and doesn't want anyone to advance. Because they want you to carry them and want to decide for you.

No, you can do whatever you want ! You don't tell me what I can't do !

Don't let them tell you what to do they made thier bad decisions in life, God won't ask them ! God's gonna ask you what did you did ? They made their mistakes they made their errors they don't even want to remember. God gave you the chance go take that chance don't regret. You won't make a mistake if you do it for your family you will saved them. What is more important your family or the world ? You can do things now ! Pray to God that he can save them becuase he already has saved others, he will do the same for you because he does loves you with all his heart. Don't give up !

In life you have to make hard decisions and you can't live all your life you didn't do anything. God will move the whole world for you. He has for you and for me. You need to break those walls, you need to do things on your own and show the world your not afraid ! He will help you because he doesn't stop believing in you ! You ask yourself what is more important your family or what people think of you because in the end God's opinion is the one that saved you !

Go break the rules and whatever stopped you from before you can do it now. Don't take no for an answer break the rules. You can do this now !

Becuase now you have the time, now you can do it ! You don't have to get anyone's permission, You don't have to wait, you can go get your family and get your friends. God's plan was for you to be in heaven with your family and friends ! He wants you to be happy forever !


There is something that people didn't tell you, you can always change your destiny. You can change who you are, change your promblems, change you life because you are powerful and the world doesn't want you to know it !

You want to do things ? Here I want you to make it !

 

[Garee]

To ask another Child to accept your mistake in Forgiveness is not for you to rule over. He will decide for Himself to do it or not to do it to his destruction. Because anyone not Forgiving is not being Forgiven by the Living God. This is the Unforgivable Sin because it rejects the Sacrifice of the Living God, Jehovah, in Jesus.

Who decided for you to believe God not seen is the Faithful creator?

Who decided.to lead back those who left their first love, hear God and empowered to believe Him not seen

.His love to continues daily repent sons of God, Christians

Revelation 2:2-6 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:;And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.;Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.(God empowering the believer );Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; (believe God empowered by God) or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.;But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.

 

[Rhema]

I said it as an example to make deal with God any situation or habit you have.

No.

You slandered my character in the guise of some "word" from the Lord in order to elevate yourself. You took a shot and guessed, and you guessed wrong. I now know you are part of the company described here:

For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed. For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD.​

- Jeremiah 29:8-9 KJV

Jeremiah was talking to God and God told him he knew Jeremiah was from heaven.

You lie about scripture. Nowhere in either of the two versions of Jeremiah is this written.

Defend your words. Post the exact scripture which says this.

Rhema



BTW, your post is in violation of the Community Guidelines of this forum.

5. Quote Scripture when replying to any discussion involving anything related to the Scriptures. Be mindful and patient in knowing not all interpret the same passages the same. LINK​

 

[emanuel88]

You slandered my character in the guise of some "word" from the Lord in order to elevate yourself. You took a shot and guessed, and you guessed wrong. I now know you are part of the company described here:

I did not slander you ? :O Rhema you are twisting what i'm saying. Or elevate myself niether.

First you apologize then you say this. You don't know what your saying. You contradict yourself.

Prophesy ? When did I put prophesy a future event, I did not prophesy in what I write nowhere did I say prophecy a day about planets exploding or say a date about mountains moving from place to place for Jesus christ I did not put any prophesy ! :O Rhema show me where before you accuse Rhema where I said that !

Speak for yourself.

Here in post 305# You said speak for yourself about what I wrote everyone is not worthy that includes you. And we are not worthy of God, you probably consider yourself elevated. your not worthy says the bible is it incorrect ! It is not !

We are all different and to get our life or find the important personal mission we are all different and yet God says we are splendidly made and he likes us special.

God made us differently and he made us splendidly.

And about Jeremiah, Rhema ! People know God created us and in this psalm show us. God knew us and he sent us here. You Rhema know this but you here saying I made prophesy ? Which I have not writting or made date about planets or anything such written in this forum ! You say prophecy and use scripture to say be sure of what you use becuase I see you used the bible incorrectly to say I made prophecy or such.

Psalm 139:13-16:
"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be". This passage emphasizes the intimate knowledge that God has of each person, even before their birth, and the fact that their lives are planned and purposeful.


We were known from our God and he said not only Jeremiah verse that he knew us and here you say he did not know us. The bible has stated God knows everything the future, the past, and the present. He knows who you are !
Everything he is God !

No, Rhema just because you say so it is not true. The bible just prove your wrong. You have said many things that contradict you, Rhema I do not represent :O. Truly you are not writting God in your heart of love. Here I just realize you don't know your personal mission God sent you. You do not know if God sent you to help someone of your family or you were meant to save your aunt or something else. That you read the word God is good but unfortunately I see who you are. I read scripture Rhema but I just see why they told me not to believe you and other members have told me not to believe your character now I see why ! You just want to ruin it for others, you have bad intention and you make bad judgements.

If you want to say or accuse Rhema be sure you point correctly about someone who made a date or say that way because i'm not prophet that put a date you got that wrong ! And all this you have done is twisting what I said and you just made yourself victim. Rhema I will not put attention to you Rhema you do things incorrectly. Your trying to derail the subject with all your intentions.
4. Stay on topic when replying to someone's thread.

And later saying Jeremiah was not known by God before he was born ? What he is the only human that God knew and the rest of us don't come from heaven. That doesn't work and then after you apologize you do all this :O.

I see Rhema you say one thing and don't check before you post. You don't want people to go find that personal mission, you don't want people to go and discover those things. This thread has done good and many and many Rhema have thank me and like talking they didn't know about freewill and there where words in hebrew that are freewill exist. Again all glory goes to God, Rhema gonna tell ya something wise if you have nothing good to say don't say anything about it. You do not have wisdom and you do not know that personal mission God sent you here. I assure that Rhema because it is not navigating the internet you doing what you do. Instead of you going for your family and doing something to help them to go to heaven. You waste your time here.

I pray for really you really look for that and you do accomplish. I'm am not like you Rhema do wish for you and others to find that mission ! I work harder than you Rhema I have gotten people out of the streets and gave money to 3 or 4 and helped them out. I have done things like that and I do work more than others write more than others because for me it matters those people get a better life. And Rhema you write things only to stop others and you have bad intention only for you to derail this so others won't get it down. You've shown your true intentions. No matter what you will get punish by the lord for those bad intentions. Those things every human was sent here thier personal mission will be done and you'll see God will help them !

 

[emanuel88]

There is something that people didn't tell you, you can always change your destiny. You can change who you are, change your promblems, change you life because you are powerful and the world doesn't want you to know it !

You want to do things ? Here I want you to make it !

1. First is to ask God why i'm here. He will answer and he will help ya and stat the path for you to know !

Psalm 25:4: "Show me your ways, Lord, teach me your paths."
Philippians 4:6-7: "Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.
James 1:5: "If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you."
Mark 11:24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.


2. Then Pray to him, pray and pray to him. You will see some have pray for 40 years or more and did not recieve the answer and then they got their stuff.

1 Thessalonians 5:17 "Pray without ceasing."
1 Ephesians 6:18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.

The story of Elizabeth and Zechariah, who waited for a son, is found in Luke 1:5-25
Hannah prayed to God for a son, promising to dedicate him to the Lord's service, as described in 1 Samuel 1:10-11

Prayer is important and will help ya.

 

[emanuel88]

Do not put attention to Rhema he just want's to ruin things for others and doesn't know how to do things right.

 

[Garee]

There is only one God, Brother. The One, your "Abba Father/Daddy" Jehovah, you meet in your closet and who "decides for you".

Thanks, brother and who decides for you the same?

What is your religious preference?

 

[Garee]

There is only one God, YHWH, Jehovah/Yahweh, Brother. For you and me.

Isaiah 43: 8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears. 9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the peoples be assembled: who among them can declare this, and show us former things? let them bring their witnesses, that they may be justified; or let them hear, and say, It is truth. 10 Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour. 12 I have declared, and I have saved, and I have showed; and there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and I am God. 13 Yea, since the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who can hinder it? [ASV]

God has no religion, Brother. He has Children/Sons. And neither do His Kids have a religion. They have a Daddy in "Abba Father". And they exists in the Name of Jesus.

I would think there is no such thing as no religion/belief/ faith . . . . system

Atheists are very religious. Their religion no invisible God as a Faithful Creator. God calls fools

In a wonderful parable in James Christ puts his religious stamp of approval. Mixing the fatherless to represent those before not redeemed and widow not married to Christ the church.

The household of believers, house hold of born-again faith special care and not forgetting the world preach the gospel

James 1:27;Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Galatians 6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

Family affair religion.

 

[Rhema]

I did not slander you ? :O Rhema you are twisting what i'm saying. Or elevate myself niether.

First you apologize then you say this. You don't know what your saying. You contradict yourself.

You accused me of smoking and declared that I had to do a "deal with God." And now you lie about it.

My apology was for being harsh in that one post. The rest you deserve.

O Rhema show me where before you accuse Rhema where I said that !

I'll attribute your ignorance to a lack of acuity in the English language. No doubt everyone smokes where you live, but not here where I live. You took a shot at me and missed. By "prophecy" one would mean a "Word of knowledge" and you had no actual Word from God that I smoke. You need to apologize to me about that and then repent before God.

And we are not worthy of God, you probably consider yourself elevated. your not worthy says the bible is it incorrect ! It is not !

And now you slander the very words of Christ -

And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.​

- Matthew 10:11 KJV

So speak for yourself. You know nothing about me.

Which I have not writting or made date about planets or anything such written in this forum !

Your understanding of prophecy is woefully lacking if this is your definition. But you never think to question your own understanding do you.

God knew us and he sent us here.

No he didn't. And you cannot provide any scriptures that supports this belief. It's highly Mormon, you know. God gave Adam and Eve the power, the authority, and the right to procreate. There is not "there" where you were to have been sent "here." You think you know more than you actually do.

And about Jeremiah, Rhema !

You've never even read Jeremiah - the real one, in the Greek language - the Jeremiah that Jesus used. Again, you think you know more than you actually do.

Are There Really Two Versions of Jeremiah?

Two versions of Jeremiah have survived from antiquity—and they diverge in many ways. Dr. Michael Heiser explains the similarities and differences.

www.logos.com

The bible has stated God knows everything the future, the past, and the present. He knows who you are !

Yes, and you don't know who I am. However, were God to grant you some wisdom and knowledge into the deep things of creations (as opposed to this superficial cheerleader spiel, you would realize that the Future doesn't exist. Hence God cannot know that which doesn't exist.

"The Bible this and the Bible that," and yet you never quote actual scripture.

Right now, I have better things to do. Let me know by PM when you want to learn the deep truths of God and are done justifying your mistakes.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Do not put attention to Rhema he just want's to ruin things for others and doesn't know how to do things right.

Childishness does not become you.

 

[Rhema]

No matter what you will get punish by the lord for those bad intentions.

Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.​

- John 9:41 KJV

 

[Garee]

Sure. All humans have a religion of some kind. Because religion is from the mind of humans existing in knowledge from the tree of Knowledge.

Tree of Christ knowledge((sola scriptura) . Not the knowledge of this world Satan false pride.

Jesus was Alive without religion. Same as humans living their lives without it being a religion. Or even cats living theirs and dogs theirs.

Jesus the Son of man was kept alive.(Living sacrifice)

Another Word from the Living God. Where we "do good" in living it and doing it. In being as our "Abba Father/Daddy, Jehovah" is in being Alive in God Life. It is not a "concept of the mind". But a Life Lived in the Holy Spirit of God. It is not for debating but Living. In Life manifested from God's Children all debating dies down. Because the Truth is seen in it being Lived. We are the Living Bibles.

Agree

Jesus was the Living Word/Bible to create Living Bibles. Exactly as He was. Just Greater. Because the Holy Spirit is now Poured out on all Flesh and what He could not create as result we create now.

jesus the Son of man form the dust was a product of the living word of the Father .The "let there be" and "it was the good word"
.

 

[Garee]

Tree of Christ is not knowledge but Life.

Hi thanks.

Knowledge of eternal life

Christ as our invisible eternal God is known as "face to face" the unseen eternal to the same eternal. The not seen things of Christ, things of faith in respect to his revealed gospel knowledge (sola scriptura)

2 Corinthians 4:6 For God, (not the son of God Jesus) who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Jesus was the Word of the Creator, YHWH. In the Word of Jesus we enter Living in Jesus with our Father, Jehovah as our "Abba Father/Daddy".

Yes, Jesus the Christ the anointing teaching Holy Spirit of the Holy Father

Not Jesus the Son of man as if he was the faithful and true "Let there be" Creator rather than created and the Son of man, Jesus "it was a good work"

 

[emanuel88]

Contuining with freewill topic it depends on choice. You can choose but thanks too all this talk and reading scripture God does have a plan and your destiny is a secret to find it. You can do what the prophets and God's people to obtain the personal mission God gives to everyone. Here is the important is that you have freedom and you can change your destiny ! God will help ya, the promblem is fear of the future how things will happen is what makes people afraid of decisions. Unfortunately all decisions have consequence no matter what.

But here people in this modern world don't know hot to trust God, don't know how to have real faith and real love. Be the people of God back in the old days of Israel when we had the good people ! The good people that did have faith and did God tests and survived all his tests. Today people don't know how to find that power or will, world has changed and were still in Babylon.

Can people today be the people God wants to be the people of Israel in the old days ? Yes they can ! Can they do the hard things of the bible ? God lets us choose our actions in God's path. The promblem is do you really want to do God's will or do your will ? It is always our ego and needs that stop us from doing things God's way. Pray and pray. He will help you.

 

[emanuel88]

Some people have ask where I get the information ? Here going to show ya.

 

[Rxlx]

Tree of Christ knowledge((sola scriptura) . Not the knowledge of this world Satan false pride.


Jesus the Son of man was kept alive.(Living sacrifice)


Agree

jesus the Son of man form the dust was a product of the living word of the Father .The "let there be" and "it was the good word"
.

Jesus was never formed from dust. He is spirit born.
His earthly body was formed from the foods his mother ate and later what he chose to eat though curiously he could fast for 40 days and nights.

 

[Rxlx]

Some people have ask where I get the information ? Here going to show ya.

Sproul was a pompous fool who claimed he had a direct escalator to heaven despite a lifetime of reading the numerous Bible verses that say the dead go into their graves until Judgment Day!
Batchelor's Revelation 14 is metaphor.

 

[Garee]

Jesus was never formed from dust. He is spirit born.
His earthly body was formed from the foods his mother ate and later what he chose to eat though curiously he could fast for 40 days and nights.

God is not the Son of man, Jesus

All humans a born again of the Spirit of the Father.

Is there a reason you hope God is a man as us?

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Job 9:32=33;For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.;Neither is there any daysman(Pope) betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both

 

[Garee]

Sproul was a pompous fool who claimed he had a direct escalator to heaven despite a lifetime of reading the numerous Bible verses that say the dead go into their graves until Judgment Day!
Batchelor's Revelation 14 is metaphor.

Free will the spiritual food the apostles knew not of the food both (the key) to hear the will and empower us to do it to his good pleasure

John 4:33-35Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? ;Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

it is repeated in Philippian 2 again the key both to hear and to do

Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

The better thing that accompanies salvation both to will and do according to the power of His good name

Hebrew 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.;For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

Free will was destroyed in the garden with false prophecy. "Neither shall you touch". Lust of the flesh, lust of the eye took over.