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We need to do Religious Deconstruction!

Dylan569

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In reference to Paul's preaching in the synagogue to the religious Jews in Thessalonica.
"And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,...These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (Acts 17:2, 11 KJV)

"And Paul went in, as was his custom, and on three Sabbath days argued with them from the scriptures,...These Jews were more receptive than those in Thessalonica, for they welcomed the message very eagerly and examined the scriptures every day to see whether these things were so." (Act 17:2, 11 NRSVue)

Whether Christian, religious or faith deconstruction is bad or good, depends upon the starting point. In evangelical circles this is equated with rejection of the Christian faith, as that faith is defined by that particular segment of the church. The Wikipedia describes it thus:

"Deconstruction is a process of personal religious re-examination. People who deconstruct have described destabilizing feelings of anxiety, guilt, anger, confusion, and fear, as well as curiosity, awe, and liberation. As an open-ended process, the outcome of deconstruction is uncertain."

Those noble Jews in Thessaloniki were doing deconstruction as they examined the scriptures. I can testify to the truth of that description in Wikipedia. I at first experienced anxiety and confusion, but as I studied more deeply in the scriptures, and examined the historic Christian faith, I surely did experience anxiety and confusion at the first but then came liberation and awe of the truth and liberation in God's unadulterated word, as historically understood down through the centuries of church history. It can be uncertain in some respects as we are never too old to learn, but it ultimately must be solidly based on the scriptures as taught historically in the church, "the pillar and support of the truth", 1 Tim. 3:15 NRSVue (by "church" I mean the body of Christ, not the RCC or any other particular denomination)

My starting point was in an "Independent, fundamentalist, dispensationalist Baptist church" where we were fed on the Scofield Reference Bible, the writings of John R. Rice in the home, and preachers from places like Bob Jones University. Thankfully I was taught to see that salvation was in the shed blood of Jesus the Christ, the Lord of Glory on the cross, but apart from that, many erroneous and maybe heretical doctrines I had absorbed.

How did my initial anxiety and confusion become liberation and awe become? At first my study was solely in the KJV, an English version God has blessed for 400 years. My home became like a layman's theological seminary and I did study, and as with the Thessalonians, examined the scriptures every day. This required study that included textbooks on interpretation, examination of the historic documents of the church in the Creeds and Confessions, as well as reading from those coming out of the Protestant Reformation based on scripture, and aligned with the historic teachings of the church.

In evangelical circles today, "Christian deconstruction" is a dirty word, but are they truly trying to defend the faith once for all delivered to the saints, as historically held in the church? Or, are they more inclined to defend the modern 'evangelical' distortion of the historic Christian faith? I have been challenged many times for using theological writings and commentaries from centuries past, but isn't our Bible from many more centuries in the past, and it has not changed, so what is truly new under the sun as to doctrines of the faith in this day?
 
Thankfully I was taught to see that salvation was in the shed blood of Jesus the Christ, the Lord of Glory on the cross, but apart from that, many erroneous and maybe heretical doctrines I had absorbed.
You haven't gone far enough.

How can you pay a debt that's been forgiven?
 
Stay on topic, the OP
I wasn't off topic. You had mentioned several areas that need addressing for deconstruction. I gave you the most crucial.

But I realize that you were quite happy to flee the fundamental question I posited.

Rhema
 
Religion is a mind concept of the Living God. Those in religion have all different "understanding" of the Gospel of the Living God. And they glory in their "correct interpretation". But "understanding" is not the Word of God. The Word of God creates Life. The Word to us is Jesus Christ. And it creates the Life of Jesus in all who enjoy Revelation from the Living God. The Living God speaks in Revelation of the Word and not "understanding" it. Understanding the Word through their "mind god" is the downfall of Christianity.
As with most of your posts, a term came to mind: "mumbo jumbo: Unintelligible or incomprehensible language; gibberish. Language or ritualistic activity intended to confuse."
From The American Heritage Dictionary of English

"And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life." (1Jn 5:20 NRSVue)

"Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things." (2Tim 2:7 KJV)

"Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men." (1Cor 14:19-20 KJV)

"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." (Rom 1:29-32 KJV)

"Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:" (Luke 24:45-46 KJV)

"This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:" (Eph 4:17-18 KJV)

"See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is." (Eph 5:15-17 KJV)

"Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm." (1Tim 1:7 KJV)
 
Jesus often asked, "Haven't you read?" (e.g., Mark 12:10, 26), implying that Scripture reading was expected of God's people.

The pagan Catholics killed anyone who tried to read the Bible by themselves.
Then William Tyndale translated it into English in 1526 so the pope had him strangled and burned at the stake and now his ashed are trampled into the ground in Brussles but when Jesus returns William will be one of the 144,000 first resurrected who will help govern the world during the millennium.
I bought a copy of his 1526 NT last week.
 
The pagan Catholics killed anyone who tried to read the Bible by themselves.
Well that's not true. When the scriptures were translated into the Latin Vulgate it was because most all people at that time could read Latin and not Greek or Hebrew. And when Latin was read during services, people could understand what was said.

You have a lot of opinions that are not founded in historical truth.

Of course a thousand years later, the RC tried to protect the purity of scripture by demanding that only Latin could be used. Like those people who worship the King James Bible today.

There are a number of good English translations published by the RC church, and their members are encouraged to read the Bible.

Rhema
 
As with most of your posts, a term came to mind: "mumbo jumbo: Unintelligible or incomprehensible language; gibberish. Language or ritualistic activity intended to confuse."
Well, I was thinking "Gnostic, New Age, Emotional Fluffery." But people are all at different points in their education and walk.
 
The pagan Catholics killed anyone who tried to read the Bible by themselves.
My copy of Tyndale's 1526 New Testament Translation cost him his life because the Catholics realised he had exposed their lies. They half strangeld him and burnt him to death.
Because if anyone could read the Bible they would notice huge discrepancies between the Bible and Catholic doctrines. They would find little or zero Biblical support for things like Purgatory, intercession by saints, the power of priests to forgive sins as well as the people being required to confess to priests rather than to God; indulgences, rosaries, the adulation of Mary or the changing of Saturday to Sunday.
 
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