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Book of Enoch

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Has anyone read the book?
Do you think it is inspired or fake.
I bought a copy at a book store decades ago,skimmed through and put it in the trash.
But there is a lot of talk about the book again and wanted more imput on the subject.
 
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Has anyone read the book?
Do you think it is inspired or fake.
I bought a copy at a book store decades ago,skimmed through and put it in the trash.
But there is a lot of talk about the book again and wanted more imput on the subject.
it is "NON CANONICAL" Book! I read, when I was about 28 years old. Matter of fact the non canonical books are in my Library down stairs collect dust! I don't even dust the books off anymore!:sob: the pages might crumble between your fingers.
 
Loyal
Has anyone read the book?
Do you think it is inspired or fake.
I bought a copy at a book store decades ago,skimmed through and put it in the trash.
But there is a lot of talk about the book again and wanted more imput on the subject.
what part of Arkansas you from if you do not mind me asking?
 
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Has anyone read the book?
Do you think it is inspired or fake.
I bought a copy at a book store decades ago,skimmed through and put it in the trash.
But there is a lot of talk about the book again and wanted more imput on the subject.
Its a history book...Its real...noncanon...interesting and feared by many Christians
 
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Its a history book...Its real...noncanon...interesting and feared by many Christians

Thanks.
I was just reading it. I got it at app store. Some of it sounds legite some sounds like it was written other books of the bible.

Enoch calls God, Lord of Lords King of Kings. There were no kings at the time. He names a lot of angels and such,but never mentions Jesus,unless he was known differently before birth. No mention of Satan . im very skeptical.
 
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Thanks.
I was just reading it. I got it at app store. Some of it sounds legite some sounds like it was written other books of the bible.

Enoch calls God, Lord of Lords King of Kings. There were no kings at the time. He names a lot of angels and such,but never mentions Jesus,unless he was known differently before birth. No mention of Satan . im very skeptical.
Don't worry about being skeptical... your main focus should be the bible anyway...Its all about the King!
 
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Don't worry about being skeptical... your main focus should be the bible anyway...Its all about the King!

So true.
This made me chuckle. Has nothing to do with book itself,and it may be just the guy who made the app.
But he puts it out in chapter and verse form.
Chapter 3 the only verse is the famous one in Jude. Christ coming with thousands. Thats all that one verse. You get to Chapter 11,it says "There is no chapter 11". And starts with chapter12.
Well excuse me,but if you are printing this in Chapter form, why cant 12 be 11 and go from there. Still scratching my head on that one
 
Loyal
Its a history book...Its real...noncanon...interesting and feared by many Christians
it is a book of false writings. "NON CANONICAL" and if a Child of God do not know "The 66 Canon Of scripture" as he know his back of his hand he should never , and I say, should never ever read a "Non Canonical" book, it would do them great harm and only a fool would read a Non Canonical book and do not know The "66 Books of The Canon of Scripture " why would a person do that. read a non-canonical book. a book of many errors, False writings! If you know every inch of "The 66 Canons of Scripture" then you can point and recognizes the errors out. and The Parakletos does not Anoint the Non-Canonical books , The Spirit of God does not coat it. it Grieves the Spirit of God as you read the non canonical books as if "FILTH" is BEING pour all over your soul!:pensive: Why do you think it is "Non Canonical" it is not "Anointed"by GOD. When we read our Bible, "the 66 Canon of Scripture" The Holy Ghost Fills Our SOUL, and cleans us and wash us by "THE PARAKLETOS"
The "NON Canonical" books are evil. When you go to a Bible College or seminary it might be a requirement , but you will hated reading it, because it does not feed you.and is a waste of precious and value time, that you could be reading the real Words of God. and if you want history, Your read and get to Know "Flavius Josephus" The Jewish Historian. in which every Child of the Living God should have read once they finish reading all 66 Books of The Canon of Holy Scripture".

You do not waste anytime in Junk reading and non-canonical reading , it is a waste of TIME. We do not have enough time as it is, that we have while we are here, That is why we pray to God to help us to spend out time wisely, while we are here on earth, and help us choose wisely on our reading, In books relating to The Biblical Text" we do this everyday. Help me "LORD", to use my time wisely, I have been at it for ALMOST 50 years now, Why because the Bible Tells Us SO! About our time and to ask GOD to watch over our time and to teach us how to not waste none of it,


Psalm 39 NKJV
4“Lord, make me to know my end,
And what is the measure of my days,
That I may know how frail I am.
5Indeed, You have made my days as handbreadths,
And my age is as nothing before You;
Certainly every man at his best state is but vapor


Psalm 90:12
So teach us to number our days, that we may present a heart of wisdom.


Our time is precious while we are here., things we have to accomplish in our souls!! and we cannot waste our time on foolishness!.
Now I understand we have "task workers" and "workers that are Functional workers" But every Child of GOD should be a "Functional Worker" and I know, the man made church, is a place for "task workers"and that any, really human can do. But we are special and have a special mission concerning Our souls.

We are here, and the goal is not evangelism , but it is only secondary. but we are here to be Molded into The very image of Christ , ByThe FATHER's hand. His works in Our SOUL being molded By "The WORD of GOD" and that Word is Anointed and In "THE 66 CANON of Holy SCRIPTURE" for the 66 books is the LORD"S Scalpel

And the Non-Canonical books are the works of the devil! "False Writings" I learn all of this around 1979!

And I have read them, I have copies of The Non-Canonical Books.
 
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it is a book of false writings. "NON CANONICAL" and if a Child of God do not know "The 66 Canon Of scripture" as he know his back of his hand he should never , and I say, should never ever read a "Non Canonical" book, it would do them great harm and only a fool would read a Non Canonical book and do not know The "66 Books of The Canon of Scripture " why would a person do that. read a non-canonical book. a book of many errors, False writings! If you know every inch of "The 66 Canons of Scripture" then you can point and recognizes the errors out. and The Parakletos does not Anoint the Non-Canonical books , The Spirit of God does not coat it. it Grieves the Spirit of God as you read the non canonical books as if "FILTH" is BEING pour all over your soul!:pensive: Why do you think it is "Non Canonical" it is not "Anointed"by GOD. When we read our Bible, "the 66 Canon of Scripture" The Holy Ghost Fills Our SOUL, and cleans us and wash us by "THE PARAKLETOS"
The "NON Canonical" books are evil. When you go to a Bible College or seminary it might be a requirement , but you will hated reading it, because it does not feed you.and is a waste of precious and value time, that you could be reading the real Words of God. and if you want history, Your read and get to Know "Flavius Josephus" The Jewish Historian. in which every Child of the Living God should have read once they finish reading all 66 Books of The Canon of Holy Scripture".

You do not waste anytime in Junk reading and non-canonical reading , it is a waste of TIME. We do not have enough time as it is, that we have while we are here, That is why we pray to God to help us to spend out time wisely, while we are here on earth, and help us choose wisely on our reading, In books relating to The Biblical Text" we do this everyday. Help me "LORD", to use my time wisely, I have been at it for ALMOST 50 years now, Why because the Bible Tells Us SO! About our time and to ask GOD to watch over our time and to teach us how to not waste none of it,


Psalm 39 NKJV
4“Lord, make me to know my end,
And what is the measure of my days,
That I may know how frail I am.
5Indeed, You have made my days as handbreadths,
And my age is as nothing before You;
Certainly every man at his best state is but vapor


Psalm 90:12
So teach us to number our days, that we may present a heart of wisdom.


Our time is precious while we are here., things we have to accomplish in our souls!! and we cannot waste our time on foolishness!.
Now I understand we have "task workers" and "workers that are Functional workers" But every Child of GOD should be a "Functional Worker" and I know, the man made church, is a place for "task workers"and that any, really human can do. But we are special and have a special mission concerning Our souls.

We are here, and the goal is not evangelism , but it is only secondary. but we are here to be Molded into The very image of Christ , ByThe FATHER's hand. His works in Our SOUL being molded By "The WORD of GOD" and that Word is Anointed and In "THE 66 CANON of Holy SCRIPTURE" for the 66 books is the LORD"S Scalpel

And the Non-Canonical books are the works of the devil! "False Writings" I learn all of this around 1979!

And I have read them, I have copies of The Non-Canonical Books.
Non canonical does NOT mean its false....
 
Loyal
Non canonical does NOT mean its false....
Prefix in the English language "NON"

non-

a prefix used freely in English and meaning "not, lack of," or "sham," giving a negative sense to any word, 14c., from Anglo-French noun-, from Old French non-, from Latin non "not, by no means, not at all, not a," from Old Latin noenum "not one" (*ne oinom, from PIE root *ne- "not" + PIE root *oi-no- "one, unique"). In some cases perhaps from Middle English non "not" (adj.), from Old English nan (see not). "It differs from un- in that it denotes mere negation or absence of the thing or quality, while un- often denotes the opposite of the thing or quality" [Century Dictionary].



canonical (adj.)
early 15c., "according to ecclesiastical law," from Medieval Latin canonicalis, from Late Latin canonicus "according to rule," in Church Latin, "pertaining to the canon" (see canon (n.1)). Earlier was canonial (early 13c.). The general sense of "conformed or conforming to rule" is from 1560s. The meaning "of or belonging to the canon of Scripture" is from 1560s; hence "of admitted excellence" (1550s).




But we all know now and except Boys are not necessary Boys and Girls are not necessary Girls and this has been etched in stone in American and American demands the world to come to their senses and except the truth or else.

But we we have decided that "Holy Scripture" is not holy any more
And the Bible is not Biblical any more.


And the WORD of God is Not The WORD of GOD anymore.

And christianity Is Not Christianity any more.

And GOD is not GOD any more , so have mankind proclaim

And the Vicar of Christ is The Church now

And The Holy Spirit is a female now so proclaim the Church women leaders.

And The Children of GOD is a feminine now, to be known as The Bride of Christ and the Sons of God has transformed into, a female wearing A Wedding dress, dressing up for her male Husband =who once was a son but now transform into a female now. She once was a Brother to Christ but now has been transfigure into a Female marrying her brother, All have been determine by His the LORD's Bride, "The Church" that man has made with his own hands and created His own man made doctrine. Now, is this not , what the churches have declared?

Can you see, the 3 Card Monte?
Jesus said: upon this Rock I will build "my Congregation"........"Masculine"
Translators says by order of The Church
The Church says: Change to:
That Jesus said:
Upon this Rock I will build "my Church"..........."Feminizes"

I am not making this up, The church and its member have declared this, ask anybody. And I have been fighting this for over 40 years, this mentality .

And I will not stop, declaring who I am, I am One of "The Sons of The Living GOD" "indicative" and I will be adopted with full rights as one Of "THE Sons of The Living GOD" and I will receive a Full Share Inheritance with the Only "SON of GOD" and I will not be looking like a bride with a white dress on! Y'all might, But I am not Putting on A dress and Lip stick! For when The World sees me, I am Going to look Like A "Son of THE LIVING GOD" and I going to walk Like one and I will not be holding a dress up, to keep from stepping on it! All who wants, to look like a bride, you go ahead get as pretty as you want!!! :eyes:

But I am going to be,:p"Strong and HANDSOME",:p on My Powerful "WHITE HORSE" and the rest can be ":kissing_heart:Pretty":heart_eyes::love::love::love: since you want to be A Bride. to get in touch will your female side!:sob: "

To people it does not really mean anything and not that important and who believes , in this modern day era that "A Little Leaven Spoils The Whole Lump":pensive:
 
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Don't worry about being skeptical... your main focus should be the bible anyway...Its all about the King!
Well i read 22 chapters and decided it held advice on christian living.
Like you say it may make good history if true,which i doubt. But nothing that would lead a person to saving grace.
 
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UD
Prefix in the English language "NON"

non-

a prefix used freely in English and meaning "not, lack of," or "sham," giving a negative sense to any word, 14c., from Anglo-French noun-, from Old French non-, from Latin non "not, by no means, not at all, not a," from Old Latin noenum "not one" (*ne oinom, from PIE root *ne- "not" + PIE root *oi-no- "one, unique"). In some cases perhaps from Middle English non "not" (adj.), from Old English nan (see not). "It differs from un- in that it denotes mere negation or absence of the thing or quality, while un- often denotes the opposite of the thing or quality" [Century Dictionary].



canonical (adj.)
early 15c., "according to ecclesiastical law," from Medieval Latin canonicalis, from Late Latin canonicus "according to rule," in Church Latin, "pertaining to the canon" (see canon (n.1)). Earlier was canonial (early 13c.). The general sense of "conformed or conforming to rule" is from 1560s. The meaning "of or belonging to the canon of Scripture" is from 1560s; hence "of admitted excellence" (1550s).




But we all know now and except Boys are not necessary Boys and Girls are not necessary Girls and this has been etched in stone in American and American demands the world to come to their senses and except the truth or else.

But we we have decided that "Holy Scripture" is not holy any more
And the Bible is not Biblical any more.


And the WORD of God is Not The WORD of GOD anymore.

And christianity Is Not Christianity any more.

And GOD is not GOD any more , so have mankind proclaim

And the Vicar of Christ is The Church now

And The Holy Spirit is a female now so proclaim the Church women leaders.

And The Children of GOD is a feminine now, to be known as The Bride of Christ and the Sons of God has transformed into, a female wearing A Wedding dress, dressing up for her male Husband =who once was a son but now transform into a female now. She once was a Brother to Christ but now has been transfigure into a Female marrying her brother, All have been determine by His the LORD's Bride, "The Church" that man has made with his own hands and created His own man made doctrine. Now, is this not , what the churches have declared?

Can you see, the 3 Card Monte?
Jesus said: upon this Rock I will build "my Congregation"........"Masculine"
Translators says by order of The Church
The Church says: Change to:
That Jesus said:
Upon this Rock I will build "my Church"..........."Feminizes"

I am not making this up, The church and its member have declared this, ask anybody. And I have been fighting this for over 40 years, this mentality .

And I will not stop, declaring who I am, I am One of "The Sons of The Living GOD" "indicative" and I will be adopted with full rights as one Of "THE Sons of The Living GOD" and I will receive a Full Share Inheritance with the Only "SON of GOD" and I will not be looking like a bride with a white dress on! Y'all might, But I am not Putting on A dress and Lip stick! For when The World sees me, I am Going to look Like A "Son of THE LIVING GOD" and I going to walk Like one and I will not be holding a dress up, to keep from stepping on it! All who wants, to look like a bride, you go ahead get as pretty as you want!!! :eyes:

But I am going to be,:p"Strong and HANDSOME",:p on My Powerful "WHITE HORSE" and the rest can be ":kissing_heart:Pretty":heart_eyes::love::love::love: since you want to be A Bride. to get in touch will your female side!:sob: "

To people it does not really mean anything and not that important and who believes , in this modern day era that "A Little Leaven Spoils The Whole Lump":pensive:

Prefix in the English language "NON"

non-

a prefix used freely in English and meaning "not, lack of," or "sham," giving a negative sense to any word, 14c., from Anglo-French noun-, from Old French non-, from Latin non "not, by no means, not at all, not a," from Old Latin noenum "not one" (*ne oinom, from PIE root *ne- "not" + PIE root *oi-no- "one, unique"). In some cases perhaps from Middle English non "not" (adj.), from Old English nan (see not). "It differs from un- in that it denotes mere negation or absence of the thing or quality, while un- often denotes the opposite of the thing or quality" [Century Dictionary].



canonical (adj.)
early 15c., "according to ecclesiastical law," from Medieval Latin canonicalis, from Late Latin canonicus "according to rule," in Church Latin, "pertaining to the canon" (see canon (n.1)). Earlier was canonial (early 13c.). The general sense of "conformed or conforming to rule" is from 1560s. The meaning "of or belonging to the canon of Scripture" is from 1560s; hence "of admitted excellence" (1550s).




But we all know now and except Boys are not necessary Boys and Girls are not necessary Girls and this has been etched in stone in American and American demands the world to come to their senses and except the truth or else.

But we we have decided that "Holy Scripture" is not holy any more
And the Bible is not Biblical any more.


And the WORD of God is Not The WORD of GOD anymore.

And christianity Is Not Christianity any more.

And GOD is not GOD any more , so have mankind proclaim

And the Vicar of Christ is The Church now

And The Holy Spirit is a female now so proclaim the Church women leaders.

And The Children of GOD is a feminine now, to be known as The Bride of Christ and the Sons of God has transformed into, a female wearing A Wedding dress, dressing up for her male Husband =who once was a son but now transform into a female now. She once was a Brother to Christ but now has been transfigure into a Female marrying her brother, All have been determine by His the LORD's Bride, "The Church" that man has made with his own hands and created His own man made doctrine. Now, is this not , what the churches have declared?

Can you see, the 3 Card Monte?
Jesus said: upon this Rock I will build "my Congregation"........"Masculine"
Translators says by order of The Church
The Church says: Change to:
That Jesus said:
Upon this Rock I will build "my Church"..........."Feminizes"

I am not making this up, The church and its member have declared this, ask anybody. And I have been fighting this for over 40 years, this mentality .

And I will not stop, declaring who I am, I am One of "The Sons of The Living GOD" "indicative" and I will be adopted with full rights as one Of "THE Sons of The Living GOD" and I will receive a Full Share Inheritance with the Only "SON of GOD" and I will not be looking like a bride with a white dress on! Y'all might, But I am not Putting on A dress and Lip stick! For when The World sees me, I am Going to look Like A "Son of THE LIVING GOD" and I going to walk Like one and I will not be holding a dress up, to keep from stepping on it! All who wants, to look like a bride, you go ahead get as pretty as you want!!! :eyes:

But I am going to be,:p"Strong and HANDSOME",:p on My Powerful "WHITE HORSE" and the rest can be ":kissing_heart:Pretty":heart_eyes::love::love::love: since you want to be A Bride. to get in touch will your female side!:sob: "

To people it does not really mean anything and not that important and who believes , in this modern day era that "A Little Leaven Spoils The Whole Lump":pensive:
Uh....Yeah...Okaaaay. So you must think every Christian is dumb, and you're the only smart one on the planet. Thanks for letting me know.
 
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Well i read 22 chapters and decided it held advice on christian living.
Like you say it may make good history if true,which i doubt. But nothing that would lead a person to saving grace.
Personally I believe its true....It lines up with the Word in a back story kind of way. It goes into detail on how what happened in our history
 
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Personally I believe its true....It lines up with the Word in a back story kind of way. It goes into detail on how what happened in our history

"IF" the theory of Lucifer being Satan and all that. I believe he was just a human king like the scripture states. And the sons of God in Gen. 6 were human as well. If so,that would make the book a story by someone based solely on an assumption.

Like you said earlier,what does it matter?
 
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"IF" the theory of Lucifer being Satan and all that. I believe he was just a human king like the scripture states. And the sons of God in Gen. 6 were human as well. If so,that would make the book a story by someone based solely on an assumption.

Like you said earlier,what does it matter?
It does matter in that...if you do not understand Genesis 6 correctly, you will misunderstand a huge part of the bible...and you cannot afford that.

The sons of God (bnei HaElohim) mentioned in Genesis 6 were not men....men would have been called bnei HaAdam. The bnei HaElohim were born of God. Men were born of Adam Of all men only Adam was born of God (bnei HaElohim)
 
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It does matter in that...if you do not understand Genesis 6 correctly, you will misunderstand a huge part of the bible...and you cannot afford that.

The sons of God (bnei HaElohim) mentioned in Genesis 6 were not men....men would have been called bnei HaAdam. The bnei HaElohim were born of God. Men were born of Adam Of all men only Adam was born of God (bnei HaElohim)

And tere in lies a problem.
I have listened to seminary professors and teachers of Hebrew and they come to the belief those in Gen. 6 were humans. Those that believed in God.
And that prompts a problem when men who claim to know Hebrew,Greek, and Swahili or whatever cant agree with one another.
And after all,despite their vast education,they are just humans too.
I personally do not hold to the belief angels had sex with humans. Or that Satan impregnated Eve.
I do not even believe Lucifer was Satan. There is no scriptural proof to back any of those claims.

But still seeking
 
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Has anyone read the book?
Do you think it is inspired or fake.
I bought a copy at a book store decades ago,skimmed through and put it in the trash.
But there is a lot of talk about the book again and wanted more imput on the subject.
Yes! Enoch the gospel of Thomas the Odes of Solomon

He tells us to seek and we will find... I've asked many times how is one seeking when they look in the same book that's in the same place day in n day out lol... I believe one must have discernment before getting into the books that r not in the bible... I also enjoyed the first book of Adam n Eve...
I've ran into a few books that where not of YH tho they claim to b of

Idk how I know when one book is or isnt I just listen for Immanuel to speak to me...

But I do love me some odes n psalms of Solomon just some really beautiful words but many on this forum look down upon these books..

Man choose which books would b in the Bible n I am sure man kept out ones that would empower YHs children more in the knowledge of YH

We walk by faith not by sight


Twistie :broken_heart:
 
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