Some of us are Zionist and some of us are not There is Only One True Hebrew of GOD & Only One True “ISRAEL OF GOD

[PloughBoy]

I believe The Scripture Teaches That GOD has Only One People, One “HEBREW” One True “ISRAEL” There many Natural born Hebrews there are many Natural born Israelites.

I believe The Bible Teaches this.

I also Believes The Bible Teaches That A “HEBREW” of GOD is A “HEBREW of Above all Hebrews and All Nations” on The Face of The Entire Earth And “THAT HEBREW” is Not A “Type of SHADOW” That HEBREW IS THE REAL McCOY”. That Hebrew is from all Nations of The Earth..

The Natural Jewish and Hebrew people we know that Travel From “Egypt to the Promise Land and resides now in “Israel” are The Natural and can never be The TRUE CHILDREN OF GOD, But with in The Natural as All natural nations There is A “HEBREW” a people of “GOD” moving through all Nations of The Earth! even Document Throughout the Entirer BIBLE!

I Thank GOD I Read my BIBLE by myself when I got Converted before I even heard any teaching in The church by leaders. And when I heard many members and churches speak and Preach I Knew we could not be reading the same Book, The “KJV” Cambridge or The Oxford edition because I read them. Many were wrong how they declared “The Law”, Moses, “GOD” “Tithes, The Hebrew People, The “Type and Shadow of What was to come”. They did not know how to “Differentiate” Them.

But They knew how to over Stipulate some and under stipulate others. For advantage. that has been past down through and for The Benefits given by ignorance and Traditions of past church organizations.

Many have once came to this same conclusion by your studious study of your bible but when you tried to approach others you were met with such oppositions. And some how you Accepted it and slowly and easily moved on.

By doing this, it developed a practice you accepted and you begin treating other theological Silent Disputes the same, year after year. Your excitement slowly dissapated away.

A old saying: “A idol Tool is The Devi’s work shop”

If you are a “True Child of GOD” Then you are a “HEBREW”!

If you consider yourself a gentile. Yes you were, then one day you found out before Time Existed. “GOD” Had created you “Hebrew”. Before The Name existed “A PEOPLE of HIS OWN”

If you was born a natural Hebrew and Then Became a “Born from Above” child of GOD, The you are “A HEBREW” among Hebrews” declared before Time Existed!

For even “Abraham” was called a “HEBREW” before “ISAAC”, “JACOB “ or The 12 Tribes of Jacob was Even Born.

And Jesus blood Line is Scattered ever where!

all kinds of paternal and Maternal, parents from The Moabites to the Whorebites, Decepticons, Canaanites, you better believe it somehow Jesus blood is running through your veins, no matter what color you are. If You are a True CHILD of GOD HIS blood is Running in your veins. Natural blood and “SPIRITUAL” Blood.

It there is a natural body they is a Spitiual body.

If They is natural blood there is Something is Running through The Spiritual veins too
“PNEUMATIC” blood!

a Hebrew means a people Tha belongs To GOD.

A people of HIS OWN.

Natural Israel was only “a Type and Shadow” of That Which was to Come, but Still only Few in The Old Testament was True. passim down through many generations And The Prophesy of “Joey” came in to full view and also a Nimber that no man can number will come out of that period That No Man can number.

 

[PloughBoy]

NASB 1977
Then a fugitive came and told Abram the Hebrew. Now he was living by the oaks of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and brother of Aner, and these were allies with Abram

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Oh please, not again. No replacement theory. There's only one church, but there's also a nation of Israel, these two are not necessarily exclusive to one another. There's just this saddest part, that the Jewish people are the most stubborn and the least teachable among all peoples. They will continue to reject Jesus - UNTIL the day of His seconding coming, then they'll finally believe.

 

[PloughBoy]

Oh please, not again. No replacement theory. There's only one church, but there's also a nation of Israel, these two are not necessarily exclusive to one another. There's just this saddest part, that the Jewish people are the most stubborn and the least teachable among all peoples. They will continue to reject Jesus - UNTIL the day of His seconding coming, then they'll finally believe.

Well, I do not know what that is or understand that theory and do not want to know what replacement theory. Is.

For me that is a wast of my Precious time. I got bigger fish to fry. I been fishing for over 44 years and by the will of GOD a avid fisherman.

 

[PloughBoy]

For even, The Letter to The “congregation of GOD” to The Romans in Rome proclaims and seals this truth in this Title Thread.

Although many stumbles and as do many stumbles at other locations “Written in The Collective letters and Books In “The Bible”. If one stumbles they stumble but “THE TRUTH” remains The same. Whether we stumble or not.

“Once saved always saved”

All The “Congregation of GOD” will be saved, Not one will be lost!
“All Israel will be saved”

There is only “One True Israel” and All True Will be Saved!

“Once saved always saved”. Not One will be lost.

Only One “True Hebrew of GOD” and He , GOD the FATHER will not Lose one of HIS Sons!

Now you can reject That TRUTH in Christ JESUS as you may. But In The Day of Judgment you will Be found?

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

I agree with the OP. It is written, the children of the flesh are not the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. The promise of God the Father is the promise of the Holy Spirit.

This is “the circumcision” of the heart that makes us fellow citizens of God’s Israel.

Jesus said in John 4:22 that “salvation is of the Jews.”

So why would Jesus only mention the Jews? It is because, to God a Jew is one who is defined “inwardly by the Spirit,” and not outwardly according to “the flesh”.

God showed in the flesh and blood Jews, and Israel, what he was going to perform in a “spiritual people”; who are also to be considered a part of God’s Israel.

Lets confirm this message with some scripture. Paul says in Romans 2:29 That a Jew is one which is “inwardly”, and the circumcision is that of “the heart”, and in “the spirit”. Paul also says in Romans 9:6-8 That they are not “all” Israel, which are “of” Israel. Paul goes on to say in verse 8 that the children of “the flesh” are not the children of God: but the children of the“promise” are counted for the seed.

The “promise” Paul is refering to is “the promise of the Holy Spirit”, which is the “circumcision of the heart” as “a sign” of being made a fellow citizen into the One body of Christ. The seal of the Holy Spirit is also a sign of the righteousness of the faith, which is imputed to those who believe, as was shown in Abraham.

We are told in 1 Corinthians 12:13 that both Jews and Gentiles are baptized into “One body” by One Spirit.

Ephesians 2:11-19 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being “in time past Gentiles” in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being “aliens” from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.14 For he is our peace, who hath made both “one,” and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain “one new man”, so making peace;16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in “one body” by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.18 For through him we both have access by “one Spirit” unto the Father.19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but “fellowcitizens” with the saints, and of the household of God;”

This making of 2 peoples( Jews and Gentiles) into “One” is also shown here in Romans 11:15-24 15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? 16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert“grafted in” among them, and “with them” partakest of “the root” and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not “the root”, but the root thee.19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be “grafted in”.

20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert “grafted”contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

So you see, we are all a part of One body by One Spirit, and all a part of One Olive tree enjoined by the same root, which is Christ. Jesus said “I am the root and the offspring of David”

The Lord is the first, and is with the last. Amen

 

[PloughBoy]

Why is the “WORD” with all of The True meaning when spoken or Written has No meaning whatsoever in the majority of Christians months and they have refused to let it flow from their lips as if “The PARAKLETOS” The Other “Advocate” is poison and it’s work is Poluted and unclean, but they can easily speak holy. Spirit of the spirit and not dare to say Holy Ghost. Giving less power by always referring to a lessor operations.

The Answer: they have no idea neither do they care of the operation and it’s mission by the proclamation coming out of their mouths, not realizing the ignorance many have concerning his mission,. “PNEUMATOLOGY” has no place, for do tongues and “the copy” of The congregation of GOD” have more “Eminence” in their voice and occupation.

And as their chest begins to raise by their puff up minds as they begin to express their fleshly minds with “The Worldly Spiritual” not realizing that there is a”Demonic Spiritually worldly wise” that flows within worldly reality’s thought patterns that runs Worldwide church wide, biblical wide, For The Devil and the demons are “Messengers” too and ordain by “GOD ALMIGHTY”!

For “The FATHER” would not Have HIS Sons ignorant.

Of what HE is doing.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Well, I do not know what that is or understand that theory and do not want to know what replacement theory. Is.

For me that is a wast of my Precious time. I got bigger fish to fry. I been fishing for over 44 years and by the will of GOD a avid fisherman.

I agree with the OP. It is written, the children of the flesh are not the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. The promise of God the Father is the promise of the Holy Spirit.

This is “the circumcision” of the heart that makes us fellow citizens of God’s Israel.

Jesus said in John 4:22 that “salvation is of the Jews.”

So why would Jesus only mention the Jews? It is because, to God a Jew is one who is defined “inwardly by the Spirit,” and not outwardly according to “the flesh”.

God showed in the flesh and blood Jews, and Israel, what he was going to perform in a “spiritual people”; who are also to be considered a part of God’s Israel.

Lets confirm this message with some scripture. Paul says in Romans 2:29 That a Jew is one which is “inwardly”, and the circumcision is that of “the heart”, and in “the spirit”. Paul also says in Romans 9:6-8 That they are not “all” Israel, which are “of” Israel. Paul goes on to say in verse 8 that the children of “the flesh” are not the children of God: but the children of the“promise” are counted for the seed.

The “promise” Paul is refering to is “the promise of the Holy Spirit”, which is the “circumcision of the heart” as “a sign” of being made a fellow citizen into the One body of Christ. The seal of the Holy Spirit is also a sign of the righteousness of the faith, which is imputed to those who believe, as was shown in Abraham.

We are told in 1 Corinthians 12:13 that both Jews and Gentiles are baptized into “One body” by One Spirit.

Ephesians 2:11-19 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being “in time past Gentiles” in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being “aliens” from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.14 For he is our peace, who hath made both “one,” and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain “one new man”, so making peace;16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in “one body” by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.18 For through him we both have access by “one Spirit” unto the Father.19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but “fellowcitizens” with the saints, and of the household of God;”

This making of 2 peoples( Jews and Gentiles) into “One” is also shown here in Romans 11:15-24 15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? 16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert“grafted in” among them, and “with them” partakest of “the root” and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not “the root”, but the root thee.19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be “grafted in”.

20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert “grafted”contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

So you see, we are all a part of One body by One Spirit, and all a part of One Olive tree enjoined by the same root, which is Christ. Jesus said “I am the root and the offspring of David”

The Lord is the first, and is with the last. Amen

I just don't like the way you redefine "hebrew" and "Israel", it reminds me of the leftists who are redefining words in 1984 style. Israel started with seventy persons that migrated into Egypt, but there was a mixed multitude following the Israelites in the Exodus and assimilated into the twelve tribes, and since then, they were always identified by their customs and religion, not pedigree - or "flesh". They were instructed to always teach their children diligently about the Torah because "God has no grandchildren", faith is not automatically passed down through the genes. If you wanna emphesize on the Spirit, then just say church.

 

[PloughBoy]

I just don't like the way you redefine "hebrew" and "Israel", it reminds me of the leftists who are redefining words in 1984 style. Israel started with seventy persons that migrated into Egypt, but there was a mixed multitude following the Israelites in the Exodus and assimilated into the twelve tribes, and since then, they were always identified by their customs and religion, not pedigree - or "flesh". They were instructed to always teach their children diligently about the Torah because "God has no grandchildren", faith is not automatically passed down through the genes. If you wanna emphesize on the Spirit, then just say church.

Well I thank God I read my Bible straight through about 5 times straight through in 3 mouths after my miracle conversion before I heard any thing coming out of a pastors or ministers mouth. And the New Testament alone systematically about 10 times plus The 5 whole bible! Context. And I didn’t jump all around and pick verses out! I would have beeen messed up by those pastors and ministers.

I didn’t know people just pick one sentence out of a paragraph and ran with it.

I didn’t know that.

Remembering bible books and whole letters and paragraphs !statements.

I was dumb, I didn’t know people read like that. How in the world you pick a sentence out of paragraph and know what the writer is talking about.

I never heard nothing like that in my life.

I was not tainted. By church folks!

I am so glad the presbyterian told me that regular church was not for me.

It had to be GOD guiding them, Read your Bible 1st. Before you get contaminated by institutionalise church. And Sunday services will not be for you. Close sessions of Pastors and Ministers for you young man.


I thank GOD I never read that stuff regular church folks was reading..

Wow!

I would hear people and ministers for a long time , I would say to myself we can’t be reading the same bible.

I didn’t want nobody to know I was young in the the faith, especially among all those Pastors and ministers in close private sessions.
Oh regular Sunday school and bible classes they kept me away from y’all!

The time when they put me among ParishionersI I was Preaching, , a whole hour Sermon take The Text, preach the Sermon by Memory “Homiletically” arraigned. Like a skill orator! “G Campbell Morgan” I been around those “Theologians” from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Dallas Theological Seminary, Virginia Union, and Union Theological serminary of NY!

I was a young mess.
You thought a Was “Martin LLOYLD Jones” with my Suspenders on!

I had everything but The Cigar.

The People Would say:
we like hearing him Preach but we do not understand those big Words he be saying!

I was a Theological mess. I did know no better.

So I start using words like; “Elephant” “Whale”, Lion, Tiger, Leviathan, I had to find replacement words for my vocabulary that the people could understand, since most of my Messenges were “outline” only and by memory or Impromptus.

I could remember whole Biblical Stories and I would at live them into modern day common man’s lanuage.

In other words I Learn The “Hebrew” form of language style.

So even now I speak and write in the Hebrew type vernacular
A Jewish person can right away Recognize it.

I grew up around Jewish people next door neighbor Jewish, my father grew up around Jewish people when I was in Real Estate, my farm area was “Jewish”. I know Hebrew people I get along well with them. I get along well with them, they pick me out of a Crowb.

That has to be GOD, they always comes to my rescue, They got me and my brother name on the Wailing wall in Jerusalem!

When my mother and father was alive, no telling what Jewish person iwas over their house eating “Blackeyes peas and Cornbread!

Young or old, male or female!

We always been surrounded by Jewish People!

I got more Hebrew that The Hebrew got.
I sent my young daughter to a “HBC” that took in Jewish people professsors from Germany during WW2. When no one in the USA would take them.

And according to GOD’s word I am A HeBrew and Let Me Talk to A Hebrew or Jewish when they talk to me, They tell you Too I am Hebrew especially if They Are Orthodox or have a Orthodox back ground.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Well I thank God I read my Bible straight through about 5 times straight through in 3 mouths after my miracle conversion before I heard any thing coming out of a pastors or ministers mouth. And the New Testament alone systematically about 10 times plus The 5 whole bible! Context. And I didn’t jump all around and pick verses out! I would have beeen messed up by those pastors and ministers.

I didn’t know people just pick one sentence out of a paragraph and ran with it.

I didn’t know that.

Remembering bible books and whole letters and paragraphs !statements.

I was dumb, I didn’t know people read like that. How in the world you pick a sentence out of paragraph and know what the writer is talking about.

I never heard nothing like that in my life.

I was not tainted. By church folks!

I am so glad the presbyterian told me that regular church was not for me.

It had to be GOD guiding them, Read your Bible 1st. Before you get contaminated by institutionalise church. And Sunday services will not be for you. Close sessions of Pastors and Ministers for you young man.


I thank GOD I never read that stuff regular church folks was reading..

Wow!

I would hear people and ministers for a long time , I would say to myself we can’t be reading the same bible.

I didn’t want nobody to know I was young in the the faith, especially among all those Pastors and ministers in close private sessions.
Oh regular Sunday school and bible classes they kept me away from y’all!

The time when they put me among ParishionersI I was Preaching, , a whole hour Sermon take The Text, preach the Sermon by Memory “Homiletically” arraigned. Like a skill orator! “G Campbell Morgan” I been around those “Theologians” from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Dallas Theological Seminary, Virginia Union, and Union Theological serminary of NY!

I was a young mess.
You thought a Was “Martin LLOYLD Jones” with my Suspenders on!

I had everything but The Cigar.

The People Would say:
we like hearing him Preach but we do not understand those big Words he be saying!

I was a Theological mess. I did know no better.

So I start using words like; “Elephant” “Whale”, Lion, Tiger, Leviathan, I had to find replacement words for my vocabulary that the people could understand, since most of my Messenges were “outline” only and by memory or Impromptus.

I could remember whole Biblical Stories and I would at live them into modern day common man’s lanuage.

In other words I Learn The “Hebrew” form of language style.

So even now I speak and write in the Hebrew type vernacular
A Jewish person can right away Recognize it.

I grew up around Jewish people next door neighbor Jewish, my father grew up around Jewish people when I was in Real Estate, my farm area was “Jewish”. I know Hebrew people I get along well with them. I get along well with them, they pick me out of a Crowb.

That has to be GOD, they always comes to my rescue, They got me and my brother name on the Wailing wall in Jerusalem!

When my mother and father was alive, no telling what Jewish person iwas over their house eating “Blackeyes peas and Cornbread!

Young or old, male or female!

We always been surrounded by Jewish People!

I got more Hebrew that The Hebrew got.
I sent my young daughter to a “HBC” that took in Jewish people professsors from Germany during WW2. When no one in the USA would take them.

And according to GOD’s word I am A HeBrew and Let Me Talk to A Hebrew or Jewish when they talk to me, They tell you Too I am Hebrew especially if They Are Orthodox or have a Orthodox back ground.

Man, with all due respect, I don't get you guys' obsession with identity. What's the point of sharing all these stuff about your experience in church and with Jewish people? And finding your identity through all these experience? For a Chritians, the only identity is a child of God in Christ. But put that aside, from where I came from, the first identity is always job title, then age group, home town, educational background and other aspects of social status. I've never met anybody who identifies themselves by ethnicity, gender, religion, sexual preference, ideology or any kind of particular personal experience.

 

[PloughBoy]

Man, with all due respect, I don't get you guys' obsession with identity. What's the point of sharing all these stuff about your experience in church and with Jewish people? And finding your identity through all these experience? For a Chritians, the only identity is a child of God in Christ. But put that aside, from where I came from, the first identity is always job title, then age group, home town, educational background and other aspects of social status. I've never met anybody who identifies themselves by ethnicity, gender, religion, sexual preference, ideology or any kind of particular personal experience.

Well I am different I got baptize when I was 8 years old, be cause I wanted to join a children choir. went to Sunday school by 16, father said I didn’t have to go to church, until then the only reason we went we were allowed to go to the movies but had to go to Sunday school so that is why we went until 16.

So I did not care for church . Because I got baptise and always believe in Jesus so that made me a Christian.

But one day at work the age of 26 not in a church. Jesus call my name and I Had a “Theophany” right in among fellow employees at work and saw Jesus, and I Was Filled right There Among Thiose people with “The SPIIRT of The LIVING GOD”. People said , they Never seen Nothing like it!

Thank GOD there was Some Church Folks there!

I never even knew something Like that! Happens.

I was on FIRE for JESUS! the Superintendent told everybody to Leave me Alone. All day I talked about “JESUS! Non stop! They had to tell me to breathe.

I did not have to do no Work! The CEO’s said, leave That Boy Alone, They knew me about 7-8 years, they saw me change right before their face! People said They never seen nothing like that in their life!


I preach Jesus right there! I was not even in a church!
I bet about 10 -15 got saved at that place! They saw me change right there!

They label it or called it “A Miraculous Conversion”. Just like Paul had on The “Damascus Road” and I had never read his story!

He, JESUS called my Name And I Saw Him clear as Day!

And That Holy Ghost hit Me! TAlking About “POWER”. I did n’t know it was something like That!

I was the Talk of Town and the next and next town and next town and the next town! People was lining up at my door wanted to know what happen to me!

People I didn’t know they knew where I live! Found my house!
Friends came over my house crying, asking me what happen to me,

Grown man, Crying, motorcycle and Karate friends, they have never been to my house.

They wanted to know.

Now I am a “Child of The Living God” “Born from Above” 1977”

I use to be a Christian before then. but Now I am “Child of GOD” born 1977! a Joint Heir of Christ JESUS! Born of His Spirit and wash in His Blood!

And when You be empowered from on High you shall be my witness!

He did not lie!

Over 44 years ago and I am still on Fire!

Many have tried to put that fire out!

They hate me!

!I get weak I get sad been hurt, wounded left for dead. Lie on called everything but a child of GOD.
Because I do not bow.

But somehow that fire kindles back up! Even in my despair.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

I just don't like the way you redefine "hebrew" and "Israel", it reminds me of the leftists who are redefining words in 1984 style. Israel started with seventy persons that migrated into Egypt, but there was a mixed multitude following the Israelites in the Exodus and assimilated into the twelve tribes, and since then, they were always identified by their customs and religion, not pedigree - or "flesh". They were instructed to always teach their children diligently about the Torah because "God has no grandchildren", faith is not automatically passed down through the genes. If you wanna emphesize on the Spirit, then just say church.

Who defines who God’s chosen people are? Is it God, or men?

Men judge according to the flesh (outward appearances) but God looks upon the heart.

 

[PloughBoy]

Man, with all due respect, I don't get you guys' obsession with identity. What's the point of sharing all these stuff about your experience in church and with Jewish people? And finding your identity through all these experience? For a Chritians, the only identity is a child of God in Christ. But put that aside, from where I came from, the first identity is always job title, then age group, home town, educational background and other aspects of social status. I've never met anybody who identifies themselves by ethnicity, gender, religion, sexual preference, ideology or any kind of particular personal experience.

But I do not claim to be a christian.

I’m just sharing about my identity as a “joint Heir” of Jesus Christ, and my true identity of my “Citizenship” a True citizen of “Heaven” which is my birth place, and I do not belong here.
“For we are a “Peculiar People” roaming this planet called Earth! And we cannot hardly wait for Him to come back take us out of Here!

For we; are The People of GOD! And we do not belong here! We are the True “HEBREWS”! This is Not Our “PROMISE LAND”!

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Well I am different I got baptize when I was 8 years old, be cause I wanted to join a children choir. went to Sunday school by 16, father said I didn’t have to go to church, until then the only reason we went we were allowed to go to the movies but had to go to Sunday school so that is why we went until 16.

So I did not care for church . Because I got baptise and always believe in Jesus so that made me a Christian.

But one day at work the age of 26 not in a church. Jesus call my name and I Had a “Theophany” right in among fellow employees at work and saw Jesus, and I Was Filled right There Among Thiose people with “The SPIIRT of The LIVING GOD”. People said , they Never seen Nothing like it!

Thank GOD there was Some Church Folks there!

I never even knew something Like that! Happens.

I was on FIRE for JESUS! the Superintendent told everybody to Leave me Alone. All day I talked about “JESUS! Non stop! They had to tell me to breathe.

I did not have to do no Work! The CEO’s said, leave That Boy Alone, They knew me about 7-8 years, they saw me change right before their face! People said They never seen nothing like that in their life!


I preach Jesus right there! I was not even in a church!
I bet about 10 -15 got saved at that place! They saw me change right there!

They label it or called it “A Miraculous Conversion”. Just like Paul had on The “Damascus Road” and I had never read his story!

He, JESUS called my Name And I Saw Him clear as Day!

And That Holy Ghost hit Me! TAlking About “POWER”. I did n’t know it was something like That!

I was the Talk of Town and the next and next town and next town and the next town! People was lining up at my door wanted to know what happen to me!

People I didn’t know they knew where I live! Found my house!
Friends came over my house crying, asking me what happen to me,

Grown man, Crying, motorcycle and Karate friends, they have never been to my house.

They wanted to know.

Now I am a “Child of The Living God” “Born from Above” 1977”

I use to be a Christian before then. but Now I am “Child of GOD” born 1977! a Joint Heir of Christ JESUS! Born of His Spirit and wash in His Blood!

And when You be empowered from on High you shall be my witness!

He did not lie!

Over 44 years ago and I am still on Fire!

Many have tried to put that fire out!

They hate me!

!I get weak I get sad been hurt, wounded left for dead. Lie on called everything but a child of GOD.
Because I do not bow.

But somehow that fire kindles back up! Even in my despair.

Wow, that's incredible. Sounds like your own Damascus road experience. Now I feel a bit of envious of you.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

But I do not claim to be a christian.

I’m just sharing about my identity as a “joint Heir” of Jesus Christ, and my true identity of my “Citizenship” a True citizen of “Heaven” which is my birth place, and I do not belong here.
“For we are a “Peculiar People” roaming this planet called Earth! And we cannot hardly wait for Him to come back take us out of Here!

For we; are The People of GOD! And we do not belong here! We are the True “HEBREWS”! This is Not Our “PROMISE LAND”!

It's not a good idea to use the term "true hebrews" and "our promised land". That reeks of replacement theology, that the church had "replaced' Israel since Jesus and thus become the new Israel. On the contrary, church was described as a "wild olive tree" grafted into the original, now known as the Commonwealth of Israel (Rom. 11:11-36).

 

[PloughBoy]

It's not a good idea to use the term "true hebrews" and "our promised land". That reeks of replacement theology, that the church had "replaced' Israel since Jesus and thus become the new Israel. On the contrary, church was described as a "wild olive tree" grafted into the original, now known as the Commonwealth of Israel (Rom. 11:11-36).

Well, I am not into such talks and terminologies , as “Replacement” theology. And do not know what it is and do not care.

Such talk is no where in The Biblical text of “The Original Copied Manuscript” or A Reliable and Excellent Translation.
So in essence I will fully embrace the required text as authoritated and “Biblically Sound”

I am “A True Hebrew” and “Eternal Life” is The Promise LAND” if Not, Jesus is a Liar, and He wasted hIS time coming Here, and we should not be looking for His Return, to come back here and take us to where He Promise He would.

He is my Older brother, I am, in him! if He is Hebrew so am I. Me and my Brother is one, we are joint heirs! Me and Him got The Same FATHER, Full Privileges, “Indicative”!

Now you tell me which is far greater a mere Hebrew of The flesh or A “True Child of The Living GOD, born of Heaven with The PARAKLETOS of GOD the Father living In Them Throughtout Eternity! Clothe in “IMMORTALITY”!

Now Who is “The True Hebrew”?

That which is dirt is dirt! Some of Us Are Much More Than Dirt!
We Are “The Sons of GOD”
What is the purpose of being here on planet “Dirt” and All creation?……If “Eternity” which is Located in “THE ETERNAL”. Is Not The “DivinePlan”.

“I am going away to prepare a place for you and I Am coming back to get you” and take you with me!

I think it might be wise for you to leave or stay away from those books you been reading and those motivation speakers standing at The Podium.

And

Pick up a Good and excellent “Bible Translation” of “The Original Copied Manscript” of “The Word of GOD”.

Because, The way you are going, you might miss The Boat.

You better Believe it, a Life Boat is Coming.

 

[PloughBoy]

Wow, that's incredible. Sounds like your own Damascus road experience. Now I feel a bit of envious of you.

Don’t be, There is only one Way, everyone who is going there, must have a true Transformation here on planet Earth to Arrive at “Predestination”.

Earth is where we make the change and not of thought but become completely A different “Creature” and where “the Shell” must fall off, and The New Outter Garment must come on before our “Departure” from This Place in order to Enter “ETERNITY”!

For That Day Draws Near.

When This Mortal Must, which is “Imperative” Must Put on “Immortality” because It Has been Decreed by “The GOD ALMIGHTY “ before the Foundations of The Worlds” to be so.

Even There Our Names were Written!

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Well, I am not into such talks and terminologies , as “Replacement” theology. And do not know what it is and do not care.

Such talk is no where in The Biblical text of “The Original Copied Manuscript” or A Reliable and Excellent Translation.
So in essence I will fully embrace the required text as authoritated and “Biblically Sound”

I am “A True Hebrew” and “Eternal Life” is The Promise LAND” if Not, Jesus is a Liar, and He wasted hIS time coming Here, and we should not be looking for His Return, to come back here and take us to where He Promise He would.

He is my Older brother, I am, in him! if He is Hebrew so am I. Me and my Brother is one, we are joint heirs! Me and Him got The Same FATHER, Full Privileges, “Indicative”!

Now you tell me which is far greater a mere Hebrew of The flesh or A “True Child of The Living GOD, born of Heaven with The PARAKLETOS of GOD the Father living In Them Throughtout Eternity! Clothe in “IMMORTALITY”!

Now Who is “The True Hebrew”?

That which is dirt is dirt! Some of Us Are Much More Than Dirt!
We Are “The Sons of GOD”
What is the purpose of being here on planet “Dirt” and All creation?……If “Eternity” which is Located in “THE ETERNAL”. Is Not The “DivinePlan”.

“I am going away to prepare a place for you and I Am coming back to get you” and take you with me!

I think it might be wise for you to leave or stay away from those books you been reading and those motivation speakers standing at The Podium.

And

Pick up a Good and excellent “Bible Translation” of “The Original Copied Manscript” of “The Word of GOD”.

Because, The way you are going, you might miss The Boat.

You better Believe it, a Life Boat is Coming.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, for all are one in Christ. The only difference is that since Jesus, the privelege of sonship is extended from Jews only to all believers, hence the gospel came to Jew first, and then to the Greeks. "True Hebrew" implies that Jews are fake Hebrews, which is false and antisemetic.

 

[StewardoftheMystery]

"True Hebrew" implies that Jews are fake Hebrews, which is false and antisemetic.

Do you think Jesus was being antisemetic when he said this….

Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Do you think Jesus was being antisemetic when he said this….

Revelation 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

There’re those black Hebrew frauds and other leftists who call themselves Jews to play identity politics, and there’s no surprise that they’ve only infiltrated in the two good churches.