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Yes, You are Right A Lot Of People are Going To Hell then judgment & The Lake Burning With BRIMSTONE & FIRE

New American Standard Bible
But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,

“Then the kings of the earth and the eminent people, and the commanders and the wealthy and the strong, and every slave and free person hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; 16and they *said to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the [m]sight of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17for the great day of Their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

It seems like, Am I the only one That Sees this
 
NASB 1977
“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.”


I have even observed some “Christians”, their talk and conversations about religious Rhetoric as if They are Lock up In a Dark Dungeon Time Capsule of The Past and They do not even know it!
It is just like you are looking at them, as If they Are A moving Still picture on The wall, or A Old Black and White Television show in The 1950’s and early 60’s.


What is going on!

It looks like they are “Stuck”! Going around in “decade circle” and never found their way out! And as They continue to spin, they wave at you, Compelling you to come join them, on “The Merry Go Round” in The Picture show!

And you look at them, with a amazment!

About now, I would like to use a “Ghetto” idiom! Because I don’t have another expression to end that I could use.

“WION”
 
It is kind of like this; Pentecostals are known for saying keep your eyes on the Son and then all they talk about is the Holy Spirit this and the Holy Spirit that. That's hardly keeping the spotlight on the Son..

It is kind of like what you posted wherein you point the Holy Spirit at the enemy but why? When Jesus deals with the enemy since He is the Word of God. The Holy Spirit having the sword is not wielding the word of God, the sword, but Jesus is. The Holy Spirit just relays the words of God ( the sword ) at the enemy from the Word of God.
This kind of talking point is dangerous, it promotes complacency. Jesus as our salvation is the helmet, and last time I checked, the helmet is on the head, whereas we the church as the BODY wields the sword of Spirit. The head can draw out all kinds of battle plans and tactics, but it's has to be executed by the body. If the body doesn't move, then all is just theorycraft, the only result of that is surrender and retreat, and that's exactly what we see around all these churches in America. God uses His people to accomplish his goals and fulfill His prophecies, His work doesn't automatically and miraculously get done by itself. There's a reason that although we're taught to put on the full armor of God, we don't curl up like a turtle in that armor and pretend that everything is fine; we are also given the sword of the word, that's our weapon to fight back, a weapon sharper than any double edged blade, piecing through bones and marrows (Heb. 4:12) and cuts into the heart (Acts 2:37, 7:54)
 
This kind of talking point is dangerous, it promotes complacency. Jesus as our salvation is the helmet, and last time I checked, the helmet is on the head, whereas we the church as the BODY wields the sword of Spirit.
.....the sword of the Spirit which is the word of God.
The head can draw out all kinds of battle plans and tactics, but it's has to be executed by the body. If the body doesn't move, then all is just theorycraft, the only result of that is surrender and retreat, and that's exactly what we see around all these churches in America. God uses His people to accomplish his goals and fulfill His prophecies, His work doesn't automatically and miraculously get done by itself. There's a reason that although we're taught to put on the full armor of God, we don't curl up like a turtle in that armor and pretend that everything is fine; we are also given the sword of the word, that's our weapon to fight back, a weapon sharper than any double edged blade, piecing through bones and marrows (Heb. 4:12) and cuts into the heart (Acts 2:37, 7:54)
Do we look at the pastor in being our Good Shepherd? Do we look at the church for being our Good Shepherd? Or do we look to Jesus Christ, the Head of the Church, as the Good Shepherd in following Him as well as serving Him?
 
.....the sword of the Spirit which is the word of God.

Do we look at the pastor in being our Good Shepherd? Do we look at the church for being our Good Shepherd? Or do we look to Jesus Christ, the Head of the Church, as the Good Shepherd in following Him as well as serving Him?
Didn’t Jesus entrust Peter to tend His sheep? For three times? Sure, Peter may not be the first pope, but he was definitely the first pastor who led the way. If Jesus’s body is the bread and wine which we partake, then pastors are the waiters who bring it to us. In other words, yes, ultimately we have to build a personal relationship with Jesus, but a pastor is like a matchmaker who introduces Jesus to us.
 
Didn’t Jesus entrust Peter to tend His sheep? For three times?
If you are going to apply His words for that meaning, we should see what He said He was asking him 3 times for which is the cost for following Him in doing things they prefer not to.

John 21:15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdest thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not. 19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.
Sure, Peter may not be the first pope, but he was definitely the first pastor who led the way.
Peter was not making disciples of Peter's but of Jesus Christ's. That is the difference because when Peter dies or any pastor dies, they can continue on with their sights on the Lord Jesus Christ in following Him as they were under his charge.
If Jesus’s body is the bread and wine which we partake, then pastors are the waiters who bring it to us. In other words, yes, ultimately we have to build a personal relationship with Jesus, but a pastor is like a matchmaker who introduces Jesus to us.
I have trouble aligning the first half of your comment with the latter half. Jesus's body is the body of believers which is the church with Christ as the Head. No pastor can take His place or else they become the antichrist as "instead of Christ" and so that is why the Holy Spirit will not take the spotlight away from the Son but the spirits of the antichrist would with their visitations of signs and lying wonders.

Look at the witness of John the Baptist's.

John 3:28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.
29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

That is how Peter had witnessed and that is how the pastor should witness, and that is definitely how the Holy Spirit shall witness so that when the spirit of the antichrist comes and try to take the focus away from the Son in worship, we would know that is not the real Holy Spirit when He has been indwelling in us since salvation at the calling of the gospel when we had first believed.

That is why focus is never on the Holy Spirit when the Holy Spirit would decrease by remaining in the background so the Son is in the spotlight all the time. Jesus is the Bridegroom after all for how we are intimate with God.
 
Didn’t Jesus entrust Peter to tend His sheep? For three times? Sure, Peter may not be the first pope, but he was definitely the first pastor who led the way. If Jesus’s body is the bread and wine which we partake, then pastors are the waiters who bring it to us. In other words, yes, ultimately we have to build a personal relationship with Jesus, but a pastor is like a matchmaker who introduces Jesus to us.
Yeh, Paul had To Rebuke him in Public!

His Hypocrisy even cause “Barnabas” to be lead astray.:worried:

One has to keep a close eye on “Peter” he has a History:eyes:

How many letters did he write? He didn’t write to manying.:eyes:

Keep a very close eye on him!

Jesus had to tell him 3 Times!

And he will lie quick!

Peter knew what kind of man he was!

And He confessed it. And it hurt him deeply still by knowing GOD chose him
And redeem him from damnation that was coming upon the Whole World! And TRUTH broke him beyond all measures and counted himself not worthy, and he requested that he would be hung down upside down on the cross and not worthy to be Crucify in the same matter of his LORD. He considered not fit.
 
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Subject Heading:- Yes, You are Right A Lot Of People are Going To Hell then judgment & The Lake Burning With BRIMSTONE & FIRE


Hello there, @PloughBoy,

With respect to you: in most countries of the world a man is given the opportunity to stand before a court of law and defend himself, before judgement is made and sentence passed. Yet in your subject heading you have people going to Hell fire before they have stood before God's judgment seat, and then punished again in a lake burning with brimstone and fire after that judgment is given: thereby being twice damned!

Yet is not God more just than we? :confused:

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 

Subject Heading:- Yes, You are Right A Lot Of People are Going To Hell then judgment & The Lake Burning With BRIMSTONE & FIRE


Hello there, @PloughBoy,

With respect to you: in most countries of the world a man is given the opportunity to stand before a court of law and defend himself, before judgement is made and sentence passed. Yet in your subject heading you have people going to Hell fire before they have stood before God's judgment seat, and then punished again in a lake burning with brimstone and fire after that judgment is given: thereby being twice damned!

Yet is not God more just than we? :confused:

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Ok, I am not referring to “The Bema Seat Judgment of Christ” here.

But The Judgment we are referring to here is Just That! You will not Have A lawyer there is no defense.

This is “Judgment” This is “The “SENTENCE “!

And This JUDGMENT, This is A joint Judgment of Agreement!

2Or DO you not KNOW that “The SAINTS” will judge the world? And if the world is judged by you, are you not competent toconstitute the smallest law courts?3Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, matters of this life?

On That Day you will
be Different!

By That Time you would Have Entered into “The FULLNEST of GOD” Fully Clothe In PURE RIGHTEOUSNESS”

That is why we say: “Now is The Time of SALVATION”!

“!TOMORROW will Be To LATE” you do not have a defense, Jesus is Returning InThe Full Wrath of GOD on The Day of Judgment.
 
When we refuse to hide our eyes from The Plain sense of The Holy Scripture, GOD THE FATHER will not force us to believe it, Wnen we Turn a Blind eye to it, He will blind it to our eyes right before us in plain sight!

16and they *said to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the [m]sight of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17for the great day of Their WRATH has come, and who is able to stand?”
 
Ok, I am not referring to “The Bema Seat Judgment of Christ” here.

But The Judge we are referring to here is Just That! You will not Have A lawyer there no defense.

This is “Judgment” This is “The “SENTENCE “!

And This JUDGMENT, This is A joint Judgment of Agreement!

2 Or DO you not KNOW that “The SAINTS” will judge the world? And if the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? 3 Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, matters of this life?

On That Day you will
be Different!

By That Time you would Have Entered into “The FULLNEST of GOD” Fully Clothe In PURE RIGHTEOUSNESS”

That is why we say: “Now is The Time of SALVATION”!

“!TOMORROW will Be To LATE”

'For the Father judgeth no man,
.. but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
.... That all men should honour the Son,
...... even as they honour the Father.
........ He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father Which Hath Sent Him.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth My word,
.. and believeth on Him That Sent Me,
.... hath everlasting life,
...... and shall not come into condemnation;
........ but is passed from death unto life.
Verily, verily, I say unto you,
.. The hour is coming, and now is,
.... when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God:
...... and they that hear shall live.
For as the Father hath life in Himself;
.. so hath He given to the Son to have life in Himself;
.... And hath given Him authority to execute judgment also,
...... because He is the Son of man.
Marvel not at this:
.. for the hour is coming,
.... in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,
...... And shall come forth;
........ they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;
.......... and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.'
(John 5:22-29)

'In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men
by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.'
(Rom 2:16)


Hello @PloughBoy,

I mean no offence. :)

In Romans 2:16 and it's context, we read of the judgment of God, yes? There we see the care with which God will judge all men. He does not condemn without trial, He searches the heart of man, and I think we will all be surprised by those to whom He will grant 'life' in that day. For He alone is capable of making right judgments.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
When we refuse to hide our eyes from The Plain sense of The Holy Scripture, GOD THE FATHER will not force us to believe it, Wnen we Turn a Blind eye to it, He will blind it to our eyes right before us in plain sight!

16and they *said to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the [m]sight of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17for the great day of Their WRATH has come, and who is able to stand?”

For “GOD” is An “Awesome” GOD which Meaning He Is “TERRIBLE GOD”!

Not The Song writers definition of “The Word of Faith” Lyrics!

That we jump up and down and laugh, we become in “AWE”.
 
'For the Father judgeth no man,
.. but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
.... That all men should honour the Son,
...... even as they honour the Father.
........ He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father Which Hath Sent Him.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth My word,
.. and believeth on Him That Sent Me,
.... hath everlasting life,
...... and shall not come into condemnation;
........ but is passed from death unto life.
Verily, verily, I say unto you,
.. The hour is coming, and now is,
.... when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God:
...... and they that hear shall live.
For as the Father hath life in Himself;
.. so hath He given to the Son to have life in Himself;
.... And hath given Him authority to execute judgment also,
...... because He is the Son of man.
Marvel not at this:
.. for the hour is coming,
.... in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,
...... And shall come forth;
........ they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;
.......... and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.'
(John 5:22-29)

'In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men
by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.'
(Rom 2:16)


Hello @PloughBoy,

I mean no offence. :)

In Romans 2:16 and it's context, we read of the judgment of God, yes? There we see the care with which God will judge all men. He does not condemn without trial, He searches the heart of man, and I think we will all be surprised by those to whom He will grant 'life' in that day. For He alone is capable of making right judgments.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Remember “Condemnation and Judgment” are not the same. If they was the same why avenue 2 Completely different words. and Why have The Theological word “ETERNAL TORMENT”

Of Course the devil declares you will not die, you not suffers eternal torment, you will not go to hell, he says, you will not “Burn in The Fire and Brimstone.

The Devils per-claims GOD loves you he will not destroy you he loves you and will forgive of all things, for Jesus claim into World to saved everybody! He claim to save the whole world! You will not die!

For he is a good GOD! And He Will not condemn you!

Ask the world the World? they will tell you this is The Message “Christianity” has Given The World!

Every day, every age young And sold! I know I have heard this message spoken over 47 states in the USA and 4 Provinces of Canada!

For over 40 years and growing Stronger each Day! “The Godpel According to Christian’s about The Message of Jesus”and never labeling Him. as “The Anointed of GOD”! OrThe Very pages written in The Original Copied Manuscript concerning the very Words He Has Spoken. :pensive:

For it has been “Prophesied that this day would Come, and has Be so “Ordain”.

To come to pass.

So let many of us,so “Rejoice” for it also has Been Commaned of us To do so, with The Aid of “The Parakletos of GOD”.


His TRUTHS cannot be Accepted by “The Mortal man” many are to Hard for them to be accepted coming from a “HOLY GOD”.


We should do a lot of things but we don’t.

Should. But many won’t , but some has been given a “Direct Command” Empowered by “PNEUMATIC”

Famous quote:
Paraphrased


“LORD COMMAND ME WHAT THOU HAS COMMANED”

It does not matter what I proclaim about hell, heaven, eternal life, what Jesus wants, eternity, lake of Fire, none of my proclamations had no value what’s so ever! It can be consider just plain batter, it does not mean anything whatsoever whether many believe it or not.

It does not matter to me.. but if lies then treat them as lies, and believe not one word.

But one Day for sure, many will die, many will encounter death. Then let them Decide, After death is There A Judgment”?
 
New King James Version
And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,

New American Standard Bible
And just as it is destined for people to die once, and after this comesjudgment,

And there is this Scenario:

New King James Version
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

American Standard Version
For we must all be made manifest before the judgment-seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

What will we receive from the things we have done that was bad?

We will Receive something not Nothing :pensive:
 
46The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.


PS. If GOD the FATHER had Jesus whip :eyes:
 
If you are going to apply His words for that meaning, we should see what He said He was asking him 3 times for which is the cost for following Him in doing things they prefer not to.

John 21:15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdest thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not. 19 This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.

Peter was not making disciples of Peter's but of Jesus Christ's. That is the difference because when Peter dies or any pastor dies, they can continue on with their sights on the Lord Jesus Christ in following Him as they were under his charge.

I have trouble aligning the first half of your comment with the latter half. Jesus's body is the body of believers which is the church with Christ as the Head. No pastor can take His place or else they become the antichrist as "instead of Christ" and so that is why the Holy Spirit will not take the spotlight away from the Son but the spirits of the antichrist would with their visitations of signs and lying wonders.

Look at the witness of John the Baptist's.

John 3:28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.
29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

That is how Peter had witnessed and that is how the pastor should witness, and that is definitely how the Holy Spirit shall witness so that when the spirit of the antichrist comes and try to take the focus away from the Son in worship, we would know that is not the real Holy Spirit when He has been indwelling in us since salvation at the calling of the gospel when we had first believed.

That is why focus is never on the Holy Spirit when the Holy Spirit would decrease by remaining in the background so the Son is in the spotlight all the time. Jesus is the Bridegroom after all for how we are intimate with God.
When did I suggest that a pastor would take Jesus’s place? No pastor does that. And we are not supposed to be spoon fed forever by a pastor or anybody else, we are expected to be weaned and eating solid food, to see the fingerprints of Him in all His creation, and to experience how the He is actively and earnestly interceding in our daily lives, to have an ear to hear His voice amidst all the noise of the world. No pastor can do that for us. A pastor can tend his sheep once a week at the pulpit, but the other six days outside the church it’s the Holy Spirit that guides us. Sunday service turns our eyes to Jesus, as we sing that, but other times the Holy Spirit KEEPS our eyes on Jesus. That role should not be diminished.

Besides, there's a unique challenge in our times, that many false prophets are rising in His name, exactly as Jesus warned. That doesn't mean some cult leader claiming himself as Jesus reincarnate, such lunatices exist, but it's not limited to that. A false messiah can be any fantasized version of Jesus other than the real one who died for us on the cross, and only the Holy Spirit can tell you the difference. Look at the Bereans, they listened to Paul and scrutinized his words through the lens of the Scripture available to them at the time. They knew the principle of Sola Scriptura. Of course, today there're a lot of corrupted bible versions out there as well, and again, it's the Holy Spirit that raises the red flags and points us to the real Jesus beyond these corruption.
 
When did I suggest that a pastor would take Jesus’s place? No pastor does that.
The Pope does.

At any rate, I believe your point of reference about the pastor was to defend the focus on the Holy Spirit which as you say, the Holy Spirit is not to take the place of the on, the Bridegroom at all any more than a pastor would.
And we are not supposed to be spoon fed forever by a pastor or anybody else, we are expected to be weaned and eating solid food, to see the fingerprints of Him in all His creation, and to experience how the He is actively and earnestly interceding in our daily lives, to have an ear to hear His voice amidst all the noise of the world. No pastor can do that for us. A pastor can tend his sheep once a week at the pulpit, but the other six days outside the church it’s the Holy Spirit that guides us. Sunday service turns our eyes to Jesus, as we sing that, but other times the Holy Spirit KEEPS our eyes on Jesus. That role should not be diminished.
What is the best way of knowing that people are keeping their eyes on Jesus as led by the Holy Spirit to do? When they speak less of the Spirit in favor of more of the Son.
Besides, there's a unique challenge in our times, that many false prophets are rising in His name, exactly as Jesus warned. That doesn't mean some cult leader claiming himself as Jesus reincarnate, such lunatices exist, but it's not limited to that. A false messiah can be any fantasized version of Jesus other than the real one who died for us on the cross, and only the Holy Spirit can tell you the difference. Look at the Bereans, they listened to Paul and scrutinized his words through the lens of the Scripture available to them at the time. They knew the principle of Sola Scriptura. Of course, today there're a lot of corrupted bible versions out there as well, and again, it's the Holy Spirit that raises the red flags and points us to the real Jesus beyond these corruption.
The spirits of the antichrist are those that visits saved believers, falling on them with signs of tongues assumed for private use when it is not of Him at all and other sensational signs in the flesh. The problem here is that they assume that was the Holy Spirit and so they invoke the Holy Spirit to come again and the phenomenon happens in slain in the spirit and holy laughter movement and Earnest Angeley's Healing Crusade where he announces the Holy Spirit falling on believers, causing them to lose self control, and fall backwards for these supposed miracles to come about. See Matthew 7:21-27 for why we can discern by His words that in spite of the miracles, it was not of Him at all in face of loss of self control.

So the red flag here is that the real indwelling Holy Ghost would never put the spotlight on Himself in worship, fellowship, or prayer, but He will keep the spotlight on the Son whereas the spirit of the antichrist would take that spotlight away from the Son to seduce saved believers into chasing after them to receive after a sign. Matthew 12:39-40 and unfortunately, many sinners are hyped into seeking salvation/Holy Spirit by a sign and are getting these phenomenon too. They are saved for simply believing in Him, but led astray by apostasy and are not abiding in Him and His words. Unless they repent with His help, they run the risk of being left behind and so to avoid that iniquity, just focus on the Son Luke 13:24-30
 
Some scriptures say words about eternal fire and torment, other scriptures say the Wicked will simply vanish, you will look for them and they will be nowhere to be found.

The fire that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes, is no longer burning, so that means the words "Everlasting Fire" is not to be taken literally, so why are we taking the words "eternal torment" literally? Especially when the other scriptures clearly say: "they will vanish" "be cut off" "be burned up"
"will not receive their inheritance" "will not get life" "will be destroyed"
 
Just because God is called the Father doesn't mean He's the biological father of anybody. If you think He is, then you're thinking about Zeus, not the Creator of the universe. He's called the Father by Jesus because a father figure is the closest human model to the roles of God in terms of relationship. Traditionally, father is the provider, the protector and the leader of a household, the founder of an organization, a business or a nation is also addressed as the founding father. God has a lot of titles in the Old Testemant, but He was never called the Father. Only in the NT did Jesus address Him as the Father because only through Jesus the Son can we know Him as the Father. Otherwise, He's just this distant mythical figure like the sun up in the sky. Through Jesus, He's revealed to us, and we can develop a relationship with Him.

And tell you what, I didn't get this from any pastor or scholar. I got this from Timcast IRL podcast. He and his guests understand this better than a lot of Christians do.
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