Yes, You are Right A Lot Of People are Going To Hell then judgment & The Lake Burning With BRIMSTONE & FIRE

[GodB4Us]

That "friend" is the fake religious Christian who perform miracle, cast out demon and speak prophecies in Jesus's name, but the Lord never knew them (Matt. 7:21-23).

When referring to Matthew 7:21-23, it is best to keep that in context of Matthew 7:13-27.

Jesus was announcing an iniquity that false prophets will come in to the church and lead many astray in Matthew 7:13-16. I can apply that to the modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D. where they introduced the practice of worshipping the Holy Ghost with the Father & the Son thus broadening the way in the worship place when Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by in worship John 14:6 and the Son is the only way to honor the Father by per John 5:22-23.

The obvious apostasy is when believers believe they can receive the Holy Spirit again after a sign of tongues ignoring the warning here in 2 Corinthians 11:1-4 & 2 Corinthians 13:5 or for the first time in seeking that sign at their salvation moment per Matthew 12:39-40 committing spiritual adultery as these did in the church at Thyatira in Revelation 2:18-25 having known the utter depths of Satan for which they speak with tongues for "private use" Isaiah 8:19 & 1 Timothy 4:1.
As if that kind of tongues wasn;t bad enough for a sign, believers continue to seek to receive the Holy Spirit after other sensational signs in the flesh like "slain in the spirit" and "holy laughter" movement. While some of those who use tongues for private use will argue that slain in the spirit and holy laughter is not of God, they forget that those paranormal events occur by seeking to receive the Holy Spirit again or for the first time by seeking a sign thus what Jesus said for our discernment in Matthew 7:17-20 because they all came from the same evil tree of believing they can receive the Holy Spirit by a sign rather than by faith in Jesus Christ Hebrews 11:1-2 & Galatians 3:14 & Galatians 3:26.

Then we come to your Matthew 7:21-23 where by those apostate movements of what they believe is the Holy Spirit, miracles have supposedly occurred as they can say they had prophesied in His name, cast out devils in His name, and done many wonderful works in His name in those movements and others like them like Ernest Angeley's Healing Crusade where he announces the Holy Spirit falling on believers in causing them to fall backwards that brings about miracles..

And then we close with Matthew 7:24-27 as a warning to believers to avoid falling like that in a loss of self control ( those who seek tongues do have some where they fall backwards in a loss of self control to get that tongue. ) about heeding His words by how we can avoid falling like that when that storm i.e. that apostate movement comes & heeding His words is Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by and not the Holy Spirit nor the Trinity so we can avoid the spirits of the antichrist when it comes in worship whereby many that have the spotlight on the Holy Spirit or the Trinity in worship, will think that was the Holy Spirit that had come, barring the initial visit where there was no invoking Him to come.

So that is why Jesus addressed them as "friend" because He had died for them but naked of their wedding garment hence that faith in Jesus Christ on how He has been received rather than by a sign at the calling of the gospel & no other time.

Like it or not saved believers will go astray & have, but they are still His & thus still saved because any iniquity that is on that foundation that defiles the temple of God, He will deny them Titus 1:16 & be left behind 1 Corinthians 3:10-17 to die but their spirits will be with the Lord in Heaven 2 Corinthians 5:7-11 awaiting for their resurrection after the great tribulation Revelation 20:1-6 to serve Him as vessels unto dishonor in His house, vessels of wood & earth 2 Timothy 2:18-21.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Jesus was announcing an iniquity that false prophets will come in to the church and lead many astray in Matthew 7:13-16. I can apply that to the modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D. where they introduced the practice of worshipping the Holy Ghost with the Father & the Son thus broadening the way in the worship place when Jesus is the only way to come to God the Father by in worship John 14:6 and the Son is the only way to honor the Father by per John 5:22-23.

The Lord is God, the Lord is ONE. God is only accessible through Jesus as the only way to heaven, and Holy Spirit points believers and non-believers alike to Jesus. The Nicene creed is the core doctrine of Christianity, it functions as a calibrator. If a theology has deviated too far from it, then it's probably become a heresy. In Revelation, Satan has a counterfeit trinity with the earth beast and the sea beast. If the Trinity was not real, then Satan wouldn't bother to counterfeit it.

Then we come to your Matthew 7:21-23 where by those apostate movements of what they believe is the Holy Spirit, miracles have supposedly occurred as they can say they had prophesied in His name, cast out devils in His name, and done many wonderful works in His name in those movements and others like them like Ernest Angeley's Healing Crusade where he announces the Holy Spirit falling on believers in causing them to fall backwards that brings about miracles..

Jesus didn't know them because they practice LAWLESSNESS. Not occasionally, not a little slip, not some kind of a relapse, but "practice", which means habitually without second thought. All their good deeds are just a cover, a false sense of security, that's why they are ineffective. And that's basically the essence of all false religions.

So that is why Jesus addressed them as "friend" because He had died for them but naked of their wedding garment hence that faith in Jesus Christ on how He has been received rather than by a sign at the calling of the gospel & no other time.

Paul mentioned that all of his best achievements are like filthy rags - compared to the white wedding garment! In the eyes of God we're all naked, our works are like the dresses of fig leaves that Adam and Eve sewed, which couldn't hide anything and didn't function at all in the "cool of the day." God had to kill an animal to make coats with the skin and fur for them.

 

[GodB4Us]

What does that have to do with “Evangelism” presenting The Gospel according to Jesus Christ to someone who do not know who he is, or even knows why he even came to earth?

If you wish to use Jesus's words that you had quoted for evangelistic purposes, you can go ahead, but what Jesus was talking about is saved believers at the rapture event for how they can come without their wedding garments on for why they shall be left behind because some iniquity voids faith i.e. their wedding garment. FYI

 

[PloughBoy]

This is non-sense. I have no idea what you're rambling about. Jonathan out. Have a good day and God bless.

What do mean? it is plain “English” and Theological Sound and Biblically correct and it is also such events recorded in your “Translation” too! If you ain’t tore it out, or Pickup a “Paraphrase” out The “Looney Toons” aisle.
Located in the “Coloring Book” section. Where “Apostle Paul fell off of his horse and saw a Light and heard a loud voice.

 

[PloughBoy]

If you wish to use Jesus's words that you had quoted for evangelistic purposes, you can go ahead, but what Jesus was talking about is saved believers at the rapture event for how they can come without their wedding garments on for why they shall be left behind because some iniquity voids faith i.e. their wedding garment. FYI

Who do you think you is “GOD’s” right hand man to give commands to His Own Children! GOD knows How to Talk!

And He sure do not need you to relay HIS messages to his own “Sons”!

These people has lost their minds and Have Not Read The Book about a “New Covenant” , etched in “Blood” and That Veil in that temple! WAS TORN completely In TWO Pieces, In “LAYMEN” ghetto Vernacular Idiom terms for the common ill informed!

“We do not need y’all To Tell us! what “Our FATHER” wants “US” to know!
You better go back and. Read”The New Covenant” given To His Children!

Repeat “His Children””!

That is why it is very important to Read The “Fine Print” and Bring a “PARAKLETOS” alone with you!

So the Opposition, won’t pull The Wool across your eyes!

We are in the last hours, that old times stuff will not hunt today!

GOD, is saying time out, I am letting “ Preparing My sons!

 

[PloughBoy]

“Dime Store Cowboys” do not sing or know these marching songs!

“Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord:He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:His truth is marching on out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:His truth is marching on”

 

[GodB4Us]

The Lord is God, the Lord is ONE. God is only accessible through Jesus as the only way to heaven, and Holy Spirit points believers and non-believers alike to Jesus.

So beware when believers points to the Holy Spirit or the Trinity which is what the Holy Spirit is not doing but the spirit of the antichrist would point to themselves whereas the indwelling Holy Spirit would always point to the Son for life.

The Nicene creed is the core doctrine of Christianity, it functions as a calibrator.

It broadens the way in the worship place & bears false witness that the Holy Spirit is the Giver of Life when Jesus is. That is why when creeds are ecumenical in nature as gathering grapes of thorns and figs of thistles, error can be introduced.

If a theology has deviated too far from it, then it's probably become a heresy. In Revelation, Satan has a counterfeit trinity with the earth beast and the sea beast. If the Trinity was not real, then Satan wouldn't bother to counterfeit it.

There is a Triune God but what they do with the doctrine of the Trinity is not Biblical when teaching for the practice of worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son.

Jesus didn't know them because they practice LAWLESSNESS. Not occasionally, not a little slip, not some kind of a relapse, but "practice", which means habitually without second thought. All their good deeds are just a cover, a false sense of security, that's why they are ineffective. And that's basically the essence of all false religions.

Titus 1:16 states that any iniquity is a work that denies Him so you do not have to be a former believer in verbally denying Him, you can be a practicing Christian and deny Him and know it not, but regardless, He still abides even in former believers. 2 Timothy 2:13 even after denying them 2 Timothy 2:12 There will be many falling away from the faith 1 Timothy 4:1 and a few will find the way to come to God in worship because of that errant Nicene creed of 381 A.D. for broadening the way whereas the solution is to strive ye to enter through that straight gate, Luke 13:24-30 by focusing on the Son in worship to avoid that iniquity and wind up being left behind in missing out on the Marriage Supper.

Paul mentioned that all of his best achievements are like filthy rags - compared to the white wedding garment! In the eyes of God we're all naked, our works are like the dresses of fig leaves that Adam and Eve sewed, which couldn't hide anything and didn't function at all in the "cool of the day." God had to kill an animal to make coats with the skin and fur for them.

A lot of believers are following Jesus by keeping that commitment to follow Christ and even added the 7 promises of the Promise Keepers' program along with it too thus voiding faith in Him as their Good Shepherd to help them to follow Him.

They need to do as I did and ask Jesus for forgiveness and to set us free from all man made promises that are not in our power nor in our flesh nor in our will to accomplish but trust Him to finish His work in us to His glory for how we follow Him. So I agree with you in that part but many believers today rarely see their doubleminded state to apply that to commitments and promises to Christ & God for why Jesus said in the KJV not to do it because we cannot make one hair white or black but God can in verse 36 of Matthew 5:33-37.

 

[GodB4Us]

Who do you think you is “GOD’s” right hand man to give commands to His Own Children! GOD knows How to Talk!

And He sure do not need you to relay HIS messages to his own “Sons”!

Then what are you doing?

 

[PloughBoy]

Then what are you doing?

It is none of your business what another man’s servant [slave] is doing, you need to go read your book! Because you coming up short.

 

[PloughBoy]

“14And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.”

PS.” INDICATIVE”

 

[PloughBoy]

My Advive; “Put your Coat on”! And if you don’t have one, go buy one where they sale them at!

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

So beware when believers points to the Holy Spirit or the Trinity which is what the Holy Spirit is not doing but the spirit of the antichrist would point to themselves whereas the indwelling Holy Spirit would always point to the Son for life.

It broadens the way in the worship place & bears false witness that the Holy Spirit is the Giver of Life when Jesus is. That is why when creeds are ecumenical in nature as gathering grapes of thorns and figs of thistles, error can be introduced.

There is a Triune God but what they do with the doctrine of the Trinity is not Biblical when teaching for the practice of worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son.

Is there really a problem with the doctrine- or it’s just you who don’t like the terminology? Nobody “worships” the Holy Spirit, believers are born again in spirit, only the Father is worshiped - through the son. Jesus is the ONLY way to God because without him, there’s no other way to know God and how he’s above any golden calves. Paul opened his sermon at Athens with the notion of the “unknown God.” And Holy Spirit is own guide, the promised helper in the absence of Jesus - who’s in heaven at the right hand of God. They may not be “co-equal”, but they definitely work in unison.

 

[GodB4Us]

Is there really a problem with the doctrine- or it’s just you who don’t like the terminology? Nobody “worships” the Holy Spirit,

You may want to reread the modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D. where they added the practice of worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son ( not to mention they made the Holy Spirit as the Giver of life instead of Jesus John 6:30-35 )

And if you go through the content of your hymnals, you will find songs singling out the Holy Spirit in worship as well as addressing God as the "blessed Trinity".

believers are born again in spirit, only the Father is worshiped - through the son.

The glory of the Father is in His Son for why honoring and glorifying the Son is the only way to honoring and glorifying God the Father per Philippians 2:5-11 & John 13:31-32 & John 5:22-23 where verse 22 is the standard of judgment raised.

Jesus is the ONLY way to God because without him, there’s no other way to know God

That means honoring Jesus is the only way to honor the Father in worship John 5:23 & John 13:31-32 & Philippians 2:5-11, prayer, 1 Timothy 2:5, and fellowship 1 Corinthians 2:2.

and how he’s above any golden calves. Paul opened his sermon at Athens with the notion of the “unknown God.” And Holy Spirit is own guide, the promised helper in the absence of Jesus - who’s in heaven at the right hand of God. They may not be “co-equal”, but they definitely work in unison.

John 16:13-15 testify to the role of the Holy Spirit in how He defers all credit and glory for whatever the Spirit does to go to the Son. That means all the words of the Spirit, the gifts of the Spirit, and the fruits of the Spirit are hereby by Jesus Christ per Philippians 1:11.

Thank you for sharing.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

You may want to reread the modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D. where they added the practice of worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son ( not to mention they made the Holy Spirit as the Giver of life instead of Jesus John 6:30-35 )

And if you go through the content of your hymnals, you will find songs singling out the Holy Spirit in worship as well as addressing God as the "blessed Trinity".

The glory of the Father is in His Son for why honoring and glorifying the Son is the only way to honoring and glorifying God the Father per Philippians 2:5-11 & John 13:31-32 & John 5:22-23 where verse 22 is the standard of judgment raised.

That means honoring Jesus is the only way to honor the Father in worship John 5:23 & John 13:31-32 & Philippians 2:5-11, prayer, 1 Timothy 2:5, and fellowship 1 Corinthians 2:2.

John 16:13-15 testify to the role of the Holy Spirit in how He defers all credit and glory for whatever the Spirit does to go to the Son. That means all the words of the Spirit, the gifts of the Spirit, and the fruits of the Spirit are hereby by Jesus Christ per Philippians 1:11.

Thank you for sharing.

Look, the bottom line is, since Jesus is the way, Holy Spirit is the road signs, and it’s in the second verse of the whole Bible. Human minds are prone to wonder, without road signs, it’s easy to get lost or get stuck. Again, nobody “worships” the spirit, we follow the spirit. You should go educate yourself about the trinity.

 

[GodB4Us]

Look, the bottom line is, since Jesus is the way, Holy Spirit is the road signs, and it’s in the second verse of the whole Bible. Human minds are prone to wonder, without road signs, it’s easy to get lost or get stuck. Again, nobody “worships” the spirit, we follow the spirit. You should go educate yourself about the trinity.

Educated enough. Thank you.

Let's put it in this way, if the Holy Spirit is pointing to Jesus, ( and He is ) then ask yourself why believers are pointing to the Holy Spirit? Why are believers putting the focus on the Holy Spirit "instead of the Son"? If we are led by the Spirit of Christ, then we should always be pointing to the Son because that is Whom the Holy Spirit is always pointing us to. That is what a faithful witness does and although the Holy Spirit is a Faithful Witness, man isn't always, but we can trust the Lord to correct our speech and our witness to be better and faithful witnesses of the Son as well in seeking His glory and by Him, the glory of God the Father.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

why believers are pointing to the Holy Spirit? Why are believers putting the focus on the Holy Spirit "instead of the Son"?

Because Jesus is in HEAVEN at the right hand of God (Acts 7:56. Luke 22:69), He must depart for OUR benefit, and in His place is the Holy Spirit, the promised Helper (John 14:16-17). He's not physically with us, instead His spirit is in us, so He could be with us in all places at all time.

 

[GodB4Us]

Because Jesus is in HEAVEN at the right hand of God (Acts 7:56. Luke 22:69), He must depart for OUR benefit, and in His place is the Holy Spirit, the promised Helper (John 14:16-17). He's not physically with us, instead His spirit is in us, so He could be with us in all places at all time.

That does not excuse us for pointing to the Holy Spirit when the job of the Holy Spirit in us would lead us into pointing to the Son, the Bridegroom, in how we are intimate with God the Father by in relating to the Father by way of the Son.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

That does not excuse us for pointing to the Holy Spirit when the job of the Holy Spirit in us would lead us into pointing to the Son, the Bridegroom, in how we are intimate with God the Father by in relating to the Father by way of the Son.

I don't know what you're talking about, man. We don't point out finger at the Holy Spirt, we point the Holy Spirit at the enemy, for the sword of the Spirit is the word of God. (Eph. 6:17) The more we study the bible and practice in our life, the sharper is this sword and the greater is our fighting skill.

 

[GodB4Us]

I don't know what you're talking about, man. We don't point out finger at the Holy Spirt, we point the Holy Spirit at the enemy, for the sword of the Spirit is the word of God. (Eph. 6:17) The more we study the bible and practice in our life, the sharper is this sword and the greater is our fighting skill.

It is kind of like this; Pentecostals are known for saying keep your eyes on the Son and then all they talk about is the Holy Spirit this and the Holy Spirit that. That's hardly keeping the spotlight on the Son..

It is kind of like what you posted wherein you point the Holy Spirit at the enemy but why? When Jesus deals with the enemy since He is the Word of God. The Holy Spirit having the sword is not wielding the word of God, the sword, but Jesus is. The Holy Spirit just relays the words of God ( the sword ) at the enemy from the Word of God.

So our focus and spotlight is on the Head of the Church, the Bridegroom and Good Shepherd Whom will finish His work in us to His glory thru the Holy Spirit in us, but it is the Son that gets all the credit & glory for whatever the Spirit does..

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:...
...11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

A lot of times we say things that is not exactly what we meant nor reflective of our faith in Jesus Christ but it is in these moments I have come to be pruned by Him to be a better witness of Him and thus more fruitful as His disciple.

Say for example when my former church began communion with "We come into His Presence today.." which is not reflective of our faith when we are not coming into His Presence at all at communion nor are we walking away from His Presence after communion since He has been in us and with us always since salvation at the calling of the gospel when we had first believed in Him to be saved. So why say that which is false? Just because someone added that to the communion service and no one questioned it let alone the wording of it out of politeness when they should since it goes against the examination of our faith that Jesus Christ is in us per 2 Corinthians 13:5.

I stopped taking communion on that basis because I believe what they were saying is wrong and against the faith in Jesus Christ. They even called it holy communion and the bread and the wine sacrament for why it was looking more and more catholic as time went by. And it was reported that Catholics were coming to my former church and now I can see why since the church was speaking as they speak in seeking communion as receiving His Presence every time.

So there can be no wiggle room in what we say about the Holy Spirit by putting Him in the spotlight when Jesus is at work, through the Holy Spirit, sure, but still the credit & glory goes to the Son so it is best to speak of what the Son is doing rather than what the Holy Spirit is doing since the Spirit would defer all credit & glory to what the Spirit is doing towards the Son as the Head of the body of believers; the church.

In these latter days where it is Holy Spirit this and the Holy Spirit that, we should strive to enter through that straight gate by doing what Pentecostals said to do and that is keep our eyes really on the Son in all things all the time.

 

[PloughBoy]

These people faces are becoming more Frightening to me, everyday more than the day before.

I see them, with a “nonchalant” look on their faces, among The masses.

I see them on the news casters shows, advertisements, YouTube videos with great smiles and makeup, nice dress, shorts, sandals, well groom
Hair. With a bounce in their steps, Posters!
And as I look on,The “Words of GOD” rumbles through my mind, more lively and shine more brighter than ever before. And every page in the “Book” that I read Compliments the other thoughts that rumbles in my mind. The Thoughts of GOD, the words that He Speaks to mankind about concerning “Himself”!
“According to My Purposed” for What I Have “Decreed”! What will come to pass.

It Makes me in “AWE”.