Welcome!

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community.

SignUp Now!
  • Welcome to Talk Jesus Christian Forums

    Celebrating 20 Years!

    A bible based, Jesus Christ centered community.

    Register Log In

When I called you Didn’t answer me when I spoke to you u wouldn’t Hearken For we all will appear before The Judgment Seat of GOD

PloughBoy

Loyal
Joined
Dec 2, 2019
Messages
9,819
When we get to The “Bema Seat” of GOD”, To say, Forgive me, Too Late. To say, I am sorry, Too late. To say, I Didn’t know, Too late, be careful it might be another Lie. :pensive:

“Why did you call me “LORD LORD” and You didn’t do, what I Said”

Can we be “Justified”, by saying we didn’t know?

Who knows what will take place at The Judgment Seat of Christ, and I am Not Addressing or referring to The Place, concerning “Salvation”.

But
The Seat of Judgment Concerning The LORDSHIP to a (disobedient) Slave [Servant]. For we ALL Must Appear Before The Judgment Seat of Christ. For What We Have Done! WHETHER Good or BAD.

Who knows what Will Transpire At That Place. Will there Be A “Purification” taken Place, Will HE “Purify” us with A “Purifying Fire”, Will it Hurt? What does our “Garments of Soul looks like now, Do they appear as liken unto “The High Priest” which appeared before The Throne.:pensive:

Will, or as The “Dross”, pertaining to “Purification” burns off, How Long, or How Much, must Burn Off, Before, we come forth, as “Pure Gold”

How Much, Must The Fire of GOD burns, Will it Depend, How Much “DROSS” is in Our Soul? For will it Take Hours or Earth like Years, and We do know, To GOD, One Moment, Can be a “Thousand” years of A Burning to “Purifications” of one person’s End.

Oh, do we really know, how Precious and Complicated is The Salvation of Our Soul.:pensive:

Do we really Think, it only Takes The Magical Wave of A Magician’s Magical Wand to Create A “New Creature in Christ Jesus” in “Completion” and to enter into a “Adoption of GOD with Full Inheritance, a Shared Inheritance with “The Only SON of The LIVING GOD”.

In Full Benefits, That Is Way Beyond A Mortals or An Angelic Mind.

These Benefits Cannot Be Told, The Capacity is Beyond ALL, even all Eternity, where there is No End.:pensive:

We are, we will be “Holy And Sanctified”

As We Appear before Him, The Dross Will Burn off.

“It Is A Fearful Thing To Stand Before [Fall into The Hands] of GOD ALMIGHTY!

“For Our GOD is A Consuming Fire”

He will accomplish HIS Work In Us.

Without Fire, There Cannot Be A “Purification”:pensive:

“And we must not Consider it, Strange” But only Beneficial for The Completeness of Our “Sanctification” created in “Christ Jesus” Our “LORD”.
 
When we get to The “Bema Seat” of GOD”, To say, Forgive me, Too Late.

If you are Born Again, then all your sins are forgiven on earth, by the Cross of Christ as the mercy of God.
So, the born again, will not need forgiveness after they die, as Christ has already died to forgive them on earth.

This is known as being "SAVED", or...."born again".
Its to have received "the Gift of Salvation", and "The Gift of Righteousness", and you then become "a new creation in Christ"...."Born Again"

Ploughboy, your Thread is talking to these....... John 3:36
 
If you are Born Again, then all your sins are forgiven on earth, by the Cross of Christ as the mercy of God.
So, the born again, will not need forgiveness after they die, as Christ has already died to forgive them on earth.

This is known as being "SAVED", or...."born again".
Its to have received "the Gift of Salvation", and "The Gift of Righteousness", and you then become "a new creation in Christ"...."Born Again"

Ploughboy, your Thread is talking to these....... John 3:36
I Thought I made This very Clear and Sound, but it seems not clear enough for Your Discernment, maybe To Theologically for you, and not “Religiously conveyed”

My Quote:
“Who knows what will take place at The Judgment Seat of Christ, and I am Not Addressing or referring to The Place, concerning “Salvation”.”

I spoke absolutely nothing of “Condemnation” but Solidified it, The Salvation. In The Whole Complete Text of This Writing.
 
I Should not have to go through all The “Synoptic Gospels” And The Gospel According To John and The “Prophetic” books of The Old Testaments to Point these nuggets [gems] out. That are Lying on The Ground. That a person does not have to dig out! Just reach down in your being and put them in your pocket.
Free!

I knew, This “Sabbath” was going to be a long day of explanation, I would not or will not complain or dare give a hint to GOD of a complaint coming from me. Concerning my day that will lie before me. I did not entertain No on ward thought. got my cup of 100% Colombian Coffee brewed to almost perfection after. I wash up. And Got Busy, with “Young’s” and a song, and prayer, and A few biblical chapters that I had loaded in my “I Pad”years ago. And I Said to my self, uh-oh! Here we we Go! How Could This Be!
:joy:

9 hours Straight I been at this.:joy:

Not one Dull moment.

Talking about Excitement! the Word of GOD woke me Up From The Dead! it “ QUICKEN ME” :joy:
 
Last edited:
How does GOD do it, Take you away to Another place in His WORD that is Lodge with in Your Very Being, How Does He Do it, “Systematically Homiletically arrange it” Verbatim. When you check to see if The Arrangement is “Theologically Sound” there it is, even when The Translated words have been replace, and you reach deep, then There The TRUTH lies among The Covered Dirt! and He Blows The Breath of Life on it, and Gives Life to it, and It Comes Alive.

But still you wonder can this be real.

The More The TRUTH is Reveal, The More The Human Words proclaims “How Can this Be” How Can This Really Be.:pensive:

The More you Travel, The More your Departure seems at Hand”, :pensive:
 
Years ago, I remember on Two difference Occasions. these men were older Than me. I worked with them.

They knew me since I was 17 years old. And my father too.

I Got saved right there where we all worked at The age of 26, After only a couple of Years, both of them said to me, and not the same day. That They had watch me, and came to a conclusion that “They wanted what I had”

But They Did not want That MUCH! but they Wanted Some of it.
And we laugh on each separate occasions.

Each one, made that same Statement.

I learn they had Died a long Time now. But I do hope They Did get some of that what I got!

I did a lot of witnessing to them, and They watch me day after day for a few years. they both said, you know you are something else with that bible, The 1st. Year they made me cry a lot though. And they knew and Witness My miraculous conversion. In Living Color. What a day it will be, if They Are there.
 
I

I spoke absolutely nothing of “Condemnation” but Solidified it, The Salvation. In The Whole Complete Text of This Writing.

So, you managed to confuse/conflate the White Throne Judgement, with the Bema Seat.
Thats astoundingly bad theology, as you Have the Christ Rejectors, whose name is taken out of the Lambs book of life, being Judged by JESUS, at the Bema seat.
Is this JW or Mormon teaching? as its certainly not Mainline Protestant Theology.

Jesus does not JUDGE the Born again for SIN......, as their Judgement is CHRIST ON THE CROSS, 2000 yrs ago.

Have you ever heard of SALVATION?
That's what it is, Ploughboy.

You dont know this Yet ????. This is unknown to you? You actually teach that Born again Christians, will be judged for SIN, after they die, when Christ has died for their sin already, 2000 yrs ago...

That's terrible theology.

Can you even explain what it means to be "ONE WITH GOD">........as a "New Creation in Christ'.....without doing a GOOGLE search to try to then come back and explain it?

Do you have any idea why the BORN AGAIN, meet God as "FATHER"< "AbbA"< and not as eternal Judge?
You dont seem to have any concept of this, PloughBoy.

So, what do you think your problem is?
 
So, you managed to confuse/conflate the White Throne Judgement, with the Bema Seat.
Thats astoundingly bad theology, as you Have the Christ Rejectors, whose name is taken out of the Lambs book of life, being Judged by JESUS, at the Bema seat.
Is this JW or Mormon teaching? as its certainly not Mainline Protestant Theology.

Jesus does not JUDGE the Born again for SIN......, as their Judgement is CHRIST ON THE CROSS, 2000 yrs ago.

Have you ever heard of SALVATION?
That's what it is, Ploughboy.

You dont know this Yet ????. This is unknown to you? You actually teach that Born again Christians, will be judged for SIN, after they die, when Christ has died for their sin already, 2000 yrs ago...

That's terrible theology.

Can you even explain what it means to be "ONE WITH GOD">........as a "New Creation in Christ'.....without doing a GOOGLE search to try to then come back and explain it?

Do you have any idea why the BORN AGAIN, meet God as "FATHER"< "AbbA"< and not as eternal Judge?
You dont seem to have any concept of this, PloughBoy.

So, what do you think your problem is?
May I ask, are you a “Avid Reader”? And What Kind of “genre” of books you read or have a favouritism towards.

And how do you like “Christian Fiction” and who is your favorite Christian Author. And “Secular Writer” And The century of genre writers you prefer?

Not referring to “Ghost Writers” pertaining to Religious Materials.

This is not a trap, or trick. Just trying to get a field of “Jurisdiction” of feel and reading range.
 
Well, on this Forum, your theology related to Soteriology, is that exact Book of Fiction.
You have No Idea whatsoever The Form of “Theological Field” I am associated With. “Soteriology” is only a Branch. And Do you even have an Hint, what Tree of Theological “Soteriology” school of Thought is “Planted” in my Back Yard in which I pick, “Nuts, Figs, Dates ,Olives and Grapes off.

Now Tell me, is That To Esoteric for you?

If So, now would be The Time, for you to ask me to explain, if needed in a “ Wednesday night Bible class way or Sunday School train of Thought of Convenience.

I can figure a way out to please if such is needed, but I might take a while, but I believe I can Accompany you.

Just be patience with me.

Waiting on your reply. So I can begin, such a work.
 
You have No Idea whatsoever The Form of “Theological Field” I am associated With. “Soteriology” is only a Branch. And Do you even have an Hint, what Tree of Theological “Soteriology” school of Thought is “Planted” in my Back Yard in which I pick, “Nuts, Figs, Dates ,Olives and Grapes off.

Now Tell me, is That To Esoteric for you?

If So, now would be The Time, for you to ask me to explain, if needed in a “ Wednesday night Bible class way or Sunday School train of Thought of Convenience.

I can figure a way out to please if such is needed, but I might take a while, but I believe I can Accompany you.

Just be patience with me.

Waiting on your reply. So I can begin, such a work.

What you said made no sense, again.
Listen...
Soteriology, is not a "branch",
Soteriology....is the "Doctrine of Salvation"....
Understand?
Doctrine..........of........Salvation.
That is not a branch, that is a doctrine.


You should wikipedia this term to find out what it means before you say something else that is not related to anything comprehensible.
 
What you said made no sense, again.
Listen...
Soteriology, is not a "branch",
Soteriology....is the "Doctrine of Salvation"....
Understand?
Doctrine..........of........Salvation.
That is not a branch, that is a doctrine.


You should wikipedia this term to find out what it means before you say something else that is not related to anything comprehensible.
I did say, Plainly if it is to “Esoteric” for you I did have a Remedy. didn’t I. :eyes:
 
What you said made no sense, again.
Listen...
Soteriology, is not a "branch",
Soteriology....is the "Doctrine of Salvation"....
Understand?
Doctrine..........of........Salvation.
That is not a branch, that is a doctrine.


You should wikipedia this term to find out what it means before you say something else that is not related to anything comprehensible.
Now don’t you get violent, Triggered by a non-Violent “Theological demonstration.” Of Explanation.:eyes:
 
Theology proper is the sub-discipline of systematic theology which deals specifically with the being, attributes and works of God.

Soteriology is the branch of theology dealing with the study of salvation. The term comes from the Greek soterion, “salvation,” and is also related to soter, “savior.” Soteriology relates to several other branches of theology in that it asks who is saved, by whom, from what, and by what means.

But Did not THEY TEACH YOU ABOUT terminologies and The Different kind of “Theological Studies”.

When buy a car all cars are not the same and do not have the same kind of Operations similar but not necessary the same.

That is why one may buy a Ford, or Fiat or “BMW”, Bentley, or a Bugatti!.
 
What you said made no sense, again.
Listen...
Soteriology, is not a "branch",
Soteriology....is the "Doctrine of Salvation"....
Understand?
Doctrine..........of........Salvation.
That is not a branch, that is a doctrine.


You should wikipedia this term to find out what it means before you say something else that is not related to anything comprehensible.
Soteriology
It is not the “Doctrine” of Salvation” :eyes: you said it is “The Doctrine Of Salvation”

It is “The Study of The Doctrine of SALVATION”

Soteriology is the study of the doctrine of salvation. Soteriology discusses how Christ’s death secures the salvation of those who believe. It helps us to understand the doctrines of redemption, justification, sanctification, propitiation, and the substitutionary atonement. Some common questions in studying Soteriology are: ..etc.

“CrackerBox Theology” is like “POPCORN”

It is Popping Up, everywhere.

But Salvation is Of “GOD”!:grinning:
 
Last edited:
“Reformed Theology”

Broadly speaking, Reformed theology includes any system of belief that traces its roots back to the Protestant Reformation of the 16th Century. Of course, the Reformers themselves traced their doctrine to Scripture, as indicated by their credo of “sola scriptura,” so Reformed theology is not a “new” belief system but one that seeks to continue apostolic doctrine.

Generally, Reformed theology holds to the authority of Scripture, the sovereignty of God, salvation by grace through Christ, and the necessity of evangelism. It is sometimes called Covenant theology because of its emphases on the covenant God made with Adam and the new covenant which came through Jesus Christ (Luke 22:20).

Authority of Scripture.Reformed theology teaches that the Bible is the inspired and authoritative Word of God, sufficient in all matters of faith and practice.

Sovereignty of God. Reformed theology teaches that God rules with absolute control over all creation. He has foreordained all events and is therefore never frustrated by circumstances. This does not limit the will of the creature, nor does it make God the author of sin.

Salvation by grace. Reformed theology teaches that God in His grace and mercy has chosen to redeem a people to Himself, delivering them from sin and death. The Reformed doctrine of salvation is commonly represented by the acrostic TULIP (also known as the five points of Calvinism):

T - total depravity. Man is completely helpless in his sinful state, is under the wrath of God, and can in no way please God. Total depravity also means that man will not naturally seek to know God, until God graciously prompts him to do so (Genesis 6:5; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:10-18).

U - unconditional election. God, from eternity past, has chosen to save a great multitude of sinners, which no man can number (Romans 8:29-30; 9:11; Ephesians 1:4-6,11-12).

L - limited atonement. Also called a “particular redemption.” Christ took the judgment for the sin of the elect upon Himself and thereby paid for their lives with His death. In other words, He did not simply make salvation “possible,” He actually obtained it for those whom He had chosen (Matthew 1:21; John 10:11; 17:9; Acts 20:28; Romans 8:32; Ephesians 5:25).

I - irresistible grace. In his fallen state, man resists God’s love, but the grace of God working in his heart makes him desire what he had previously resisted. That is, God’s grace will not fail to accomplish its saving work in the elect (John 6:37,44; 10:16).

P - perseverance of the saints. God protects His saints from falling away; thus, salvation is eternal (John 10:27-29; Romans 8:29-30; Ephesians 1:3-14).

The necessity of evangelism.Reformed theology teaches that Christians are in the world to make a difference, spiritually through evangelism and socially through holy living and humanitarianism.

Other distinctives of Reformed theology generally include the observance of two sacraments (baptism and communion), a cessationist view of the spiritual gifts (the gifts are no longer extended to the church), and a non-dispensational view of Scripture. Held in high esteem by Reformed churches are the writings of John Calvin, John Knox, Ulrich Zwingli, and Martin Luther. The Westminster Confession embodies the theology of the Reformed tradition. Modern churches in the Reformed tradition include Presbyterian, Congregationalist, and some Baptist.

“GotQuestions”. Com

But Salvation is Of “GOD”! :grinning:
 
I did say, Plainly if it is to “Esoteric” for you I did have a Remedy. didn’t I. :eyes:

I recognize that you can't handle the topic.
So, all that you have left is to be quiet, or to pretend you won your argument.
You obviously have no ability to just keep silent and learn.
Someone said of you here recently, that you are only here on this forum to try to find an audience., and God knows thats a fact, PoughBoy
 
I recognize that you can't handle the topic.
So, all that you have left is to be quiet, or to pretend you won your argument.
You obviously have no ability to just keep silent and learn.
Someone said of you here recently, that you are only here on this forum to try to find an audience., and God knows thats a fact, PoughBoy
For your Information, I am The Author, of The Title Thread’s “Topic”.

And you do not even know, The Catalysts of The Title Thread’s Origination, But yet, The WORD of GOD is Supposed To be “Alive” Living in You. :pensive:

LORD, Help us. Have mercy:pensive:
 
Hello @PloughBoy,

I am glad you have had such a blessed time with God's Word, and that your whole being has been enveloped in the joy of what you are seeing. Also that your 'joy' is rebounding in praise to God. There is no better place to be.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris
 
So, you managed to confuse/conflate the White Throne Judgement, with the Bema Seat.
Thats astoundingly bad theology, as you Have the Christ Rejectors, whose name is taken out of the Lambs book of life, being Judged by JESUS, at the Bema seat.
Is this JW or Mormon teaching? as its certainly not Mainline Protestant Theology.

Jesus does not JUDGE the Born again for SIN......, as their Judgement is CHRIST ON THE CROSS, 2000 yrs ago.

Have you ever heard of SALVATION?
That's what it is, Ploughboy.

You dont know this Yet ????. This is unknown to you? You actually teach that Born again Christians, will be judged for SIN, after they die, when Christ has died for their sin already, 2000 yrs ago...

That's terrible theology.

Can you even explain what it means to be "ONE WITH GOD">........as a "New Creation in Christ'.....without doing a GOOGLE search to try to then come back and explain it?

Do you have any idea why the BORN AGAIN, meet God as "FATHER"< "AbbA"< and not as eternal Judge?
You dont seem to have any concept of this, PloughBoy.

So, what do you think your problem is?
No, that is your Assessment. And I cannot help the level of Your Comprehension,
For I am not a biblical Instructor. Neither do I claim to be. But I do speak, in that which “I Believe” The “Holy Scriptures” teaches without The Aid of A “man”.


Your quote:
So, you managed to confuse/conflate the White Throne Judgement, with the Bema Seat.

That is what you believe by your own Assessment of comprehension of what I spoke about.

And I do understand, your Dilemma.:pensive:

Without any form of animosity.:pensive:
 
Back
Top