Surveys: Most Adult US Christians don’t believe The Holy Spirit is real: study

[Curtis]

Of course, anyone can say, "Jesus is Lord" but nobody can say it and believe it except by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Servant of God]

Most adult US Christians don't believe Holy Spirit is real: study

Of an estimated 176 million American adults who identify as Christian, just 6 or 15 million of them actually hold a biblical worldview, a new study from Arizona Christian University shows

www.christianpost.com

It is probably because very few read the bible daily. There was an increase in reading the bible during the pandemic. However, according to research, it is only 11% of Americans who read the bible daily.

But I suspect that this is not an American problem. I believe that few Christians in general in different parts of the world read the bible daily, which is why many although not American are being deceived by false preachers.

More Americans Read the Bible During the Pandemic - Lifeway Research

Whether it was due to contemplating mortality or simply having more free time, more Americans read the Bible at least occasionally in 2021.

research.lifeway.com

 

[God's Truth]

New International Version
“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.


NASB 1977
“Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for in the same way their fathers used to treat the false prophets.

For the people of This dying and dark world, can never understand, Who We Really are. but The DAY will truly come. when That “Manifestation” will be “Revealed”! And Every mouth will be Stop. “indicative”

For We are only “Pilgrims traveling Through a Strange Land moving among a strange people. For Our Citizenship is in another Land. And it will not be long, For We The People of That “Far Off Land” Will Trouble no other, for our departure is at hand at Our Appointed Time. “Because He Made us a Promise” for This Was His Appointed Mission. He will not fail.

For He Is Empowered and Given A Great Command, He defied even Death and Got Up From The Grave, and Walked among Man with The Very Holes of Death in His Hands, He Even Defied Gravity and Ascended to that place He Decended.

And Then Again He Will.


And I speak These Next “Words” by Divine Authority Give By The “Written WORD of The GOD ALMIGHTY”!

American Standard Version
“And no one hath ascended into heaven, but he that descended out of heaven, even the “SON of MAN”, who is in heaven.”

And many can Interpret it anyway They May Please!

Because In “Absolute DEITY” “One GOD”. “ONE FAITH” “ONE LORD” “ONE PARAKLETOS”

And only one:
“One Interpretation of “The ABSOLUTE TRUTH”

But mankind has sought many devices with The Ability an Earnest desire to apply Many Applications outside of “The parameters” of That “TRUTH”.

“The ABSOLUTE of GOD”.

For By “Grace Alone Are We Saved and Not of Ourselves”. It Is A “ GIFT” and Not Earn.

Being saved by grace means we don't have to get circumcised and sacrifice animals. It doesn't mean we don't have to repent of our sins. We have to repent of our sins and believe Jesus' blood does the purifying works now.

 

[PloughBoy]

Of course, anyone can say, "Jesus is Lord" but nobody can say it and believe it except by the Holy Spirit.

I think people and many Christian’s do not understand or the meaning of The BIBlical WORD, spelled In all Caps; “LORD” it can take a few years to come to a hint of knowledge in learning that Meaning with a Great deal of Attention and praying Denying one self with Discipline, just learning the meaning of That Truth. Many have have received Him as “Savior” but “LORD” is a complete direct “Beast”! Do not mistake this “LORDSHIP” in regards to Salvation which is secure to those of “The New Birth” that is Secure, But Growth, is another Thing. Adulthood do not come easy, and many will not reach Adulthood in The Knowledge in The ANOINTED ONE” at least not in this “Temporal” place. But when The Mortal has put on “Immorality” that which in part will be done away.

Believe it or Not,
It will come to pass.

 

[God's Truth]

Of course, anyone can say, "Jesus is Lord" but nobody can say it and believe it except by the Holy Spirit.

Anyone can believe and obey, for God gave that as a human ability.

1 Corinthians 12:3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

As for this scripture, Paul is explaining that tongue speakers aren't saying anything bad while speaking in tongues.

 

[PloughBoy]

Being saved by grace means we don't have to get circumcised and sacrifice animals. It doesn't mean we don't have to repent of our sins. We have to repent of our sins and believe Jesus' blood does the purifying works now.

Sorry I am not on that page of Persuasion. And I have no idea concerning your field of Thought pattern.

I am “Theologically Sound and “Calvinistic” concerning The Different Kinds of Grace per se The Proclamation of Biblical TRUTH concerning “Sound Doctrine” that cannot be Refuted, and have been Debate for Centuries upon centuries. By men of Great Skills who have also, I believe had The Authority of GOD” and Stood The Test of Time, by Great minds, bless of GOD.

Not, attacking your beliefs, to each man his own. I have mind, another has their own. And each denomination and Individual churches have their own beliefs, and well noted.

 

[God's Truth]

Sorry I am not on that page of Persuasion. And I have no idea concerning your field of Thought pattern.

I am “Theologically Sound and “Calvinistic” concerning The Different Kinds of Grace per se The Proclamation of Biblical TRUTH concerning “Sound Doctrine” that cannot be Refuted, and have been Debate for Centuries upon centuries. By men of Great Skills who have also, I believe had The Authority of GOD” and Stood The Test of Time, by Great minds, bless of GOD.

Not, attacking your beliefs, to each man his own. I have mind, another has their own. And each denomination and Individual churches have their own beliefs, and well noted.

Many misunderstand Paul when he says not of works, they think he means don't obey just believe.

So many are hindered in getting saved because of this teaching.

See 2 Peter 3:16, 17 and James 2.

 

[PloughBoy]

Many misunderstand Paul when he says not of works, they think he means don't obey just believe.

So many are hindered in getting saved because of this teaching.

See 2 Peter 3:16, 17 and James.

I don’t believe the Bible teaches none of that.

Now mind you I said: “I don”t believe that the bible teaches” none of that” that you proclaim.

I believe other wise.

And I do not force or try to push any of my Believeth opon you.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

surely believing is obeying?

perhaps getting that right is a good place to start walking [and thinking and teaching] from?


Bless you ....><>

 

[Curtis]

Faith without "works" is the same thing as a building contractor not given any plans to build anything. It's dead. Faith needs a work to perform.

 

[PloughBoy]

Faith without "works" is the same thing as a building contractor not given any plans to build anything. It's dead. Faith needs a work to perform.

James, is a kinda Complicated, book but Fully True. As have many debated.

My conclusion on faith in The Letter written by James:

“if You Have Faith, you ought to act like it”.
And That Highway is Big with “Super Lanes”
And This is what all here has replied in posting.

 

[God's Truth]

I don’t believe the Bible teaches none of that.

You don't believe the Bible teaches what?

Now mind you I said: “I don”t believe that the bible teaches” none of that” that you proclaim.

You don't believe it teaches what that I claim?

I believe other wise.

You believe what?

And I do not force or try to push any of my Believeth opon you.

What does that mean? Who is telling you that you are forcing people? I don't know what you are talking about.

 

[God's Truth]

Greetings,

surely believing is obeying?

Believing is obeying but it must also be met with a right action, such as repenting of sins.

perhaps getting that right is a good place to start walking [and thinking and teaching] from?

I think so! Let's talk about it. It is so important.

Bless you ....><>

I am so blessed and want to help others to know God better.

 

[God's Truth]

Faith without "works" is the same thing as a building contractor not given any plans to build anything. It's dead. Faith needs a work to perform.

Wow Curtis, so glad to hear someone else preach that we have to do something besides just believe.

We have to have faith that we have to obey Jesus.

All these pastors teaching to just believe and be careful not to do anything else or else it is a damnable works salvation is just well, weird.

 

[God's Truth]

James, is a kinda Complicated, book but Fully True. As have many debated.

My conclusion on faith in The Letter written by James:

“if You Have Faith, you ought to act like it”.
And That Highway is Big with “Super Lanes”
And This is what all here has replied in posting.

Actually, James says faith without works is dead and can't save anyone.

He even calls people foolish for believing otherwise.

 

[PloughBoy]

You don't believe the Bible teaches what?

You don't believe it teaches what that I claim?

You believe what?

What does that mean? Who is telling you that you are forcing people? I don't know what you are talking about.

Your Quote;
So many are hindered in getting saved because of this teaching.

I do not believe the Bible “uprears” such teachers”



And your quote again, I did not say this:

“What does that mean? No one can force anyone”

Reread my Statements. Carefully.

 

[Curtis]

Joh 6:27 Do not work for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal.”
Joh 6:28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?”
Joh 6:29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”

There is an "unfeigned faith" (real, genuine faith) (2 Tim 1:5), and there is a "feigned faith" (not real, fake)
All believers who possess real faith receive all of the promises of God as a reality in their lives. If someone is not experiencing the reality of God's promises then their faith is not real. Faith without works is dead,

It is possible for a person to have "works" without faith, but it is impossible for a person to have faith without works.

 

[God's Truth]

Your Quote;
So many are hindered in getting saved because of this teaching.

I do not believe the Bible “uprears” such teachers”



And your quote again, I did not say this:

“What does that mean? No one can force anyone”

Reread my Statements. Carefully.

I am like th1bill in that I don't understand you very well, but oh how I try.

I know the Bible though and I know faith alone is dead and can't save anyone.

It hinders people from being saved if they don't do what Jesus says, and he says more than just believe, we have to repent of our sins.

You say you are a Calvinist.

Calvin taught that no one can do anything to be saved.

I can prove that that is a lie.

 

[God's Truth]

Joh 6:27 Do not work for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal.”
Joh 6:28 Then they said to him, “What must we do, to be doing the works of God?”
Joh 6:29 Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”

There is an "unfeigned faith" (real, genuine faith) (2 Tim 1:5), and there is a "feigned faith" (not real, fake)
All believers who possess real faith receive all of the promises of God as a reality in their lives. If someone is not experiencing the reality of God's promises then their faith is not real. Faith without works is dead,

It is possible for a person to have "works" without faith, but it is impossible for a person to have faith without works.

That is not in the scriptures.

I know A LOT of people who have faith and don't have works.

James speaks of it but you say it doesn't exist!!!

 

[PloughBoy]

I am like th1bill in that I don't understand you very well, but oh how I try.

I know the Bible though and I know faith alone is dead and can't save anyone.

It hinders people from being saved if they don't do what Jesus says, and he says more than just believe, we have to repent of our sins.

You say you are a Calvinist.

Calvin taught that no one can do anything to be saved.

I can prove that that is a lie.

Well, all the Brilliant, minds That Gathered at “The Synod Of Dort” for a few Months thought “Calvin’s” explanation was “Theological Sound” and some of Them were not even “Calvinist”!

And I know, I am no where near Those “Biblical Scholars”,
And not fit to be in the same room.

They Read The Real “Copied Manuscript “ of The “Holy Scripture” what The BOOK and What GOD actually said. And not what a interpreter said. Using replace words and has a different meaning of Thought in many places, because in some places there are no translation to carry the [thought] words to replace or have the same identity as the Original Wording.

So, I will stay in my Lane. And Go with what I got!

And leave that “Deep Water” Deep Diving Suits to you!

That Ocean is DEEP., I know what I am Talking About

When I jump into The “Scriptures” I “ scuba-dive, in flesh water. I have “DEEP DIVE” in The ScriptureI been There about Twice. I Ain’t going No more. When you DEEP DIVE, when you get back up to the Surface, you still is Not up! Your voice. Will scare you, when you waiting For Your Tone to get Back To The Surface.

This Generation is Totally Different, The have no idea the Deepness of GOD.

Many, Think Calvinist, they think Teaching of Calvinist, It is not So.

A Calvinist, Think The Deepness of “GOD”,

It is not teaching, it is Arriving To A Place in “GOD’S TRUTH”!

Methodist is Teaching
Pentecostalism is Teaching
Baptist is about Teaching
Roman Catholic is about Teaching
And …etc.

“Calvinism” is about Arriving to a Place In “GOD”.