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Generation of vipers and serpents

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Both John the Baptist and Jesus spoke of a generation of vipers, and serpents.

Matthew 3:7 “But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Matthew 12:34 “O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.”
Matthew 23:33 “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?”

The generation of vipers and serpents pertains to those who are of the serpents "seed" as shown in Genesis 3:15. Jesus also referred to them as children of hell in Matthew 23:15 just as they are known as the children of that wicked one who sow bad seed in the world Matthew 13:38.

This bad seed is sown by lies and false doctrine that come from "the spirit" of their father the Devil. Just as God’s Word is the good seed sown by his children who have His Living Word and Spirit dwelling in them, these saints belong to the kingdom of heaven.

So these serpents spread their poison by their false doctrine. Deuteronomy 32:33 “Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.” Romans 3:13 “Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:”

In the wandering in the wilderness we are given a shadow of spiritual things to come when the Lord sent forth "fiery serpents" to bite and kill the rebellious children of Israel. Numbers 21:6 “And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.”

But the Lord also had a remedy for this poison of serpents in the serpent that the Lord had Moses raise up in Numbers 21:8 “And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.”

This would be a sign of Jesus being made sin for us, he also being raised up, and all those who seek him would be healed from the "deadly poison" of the serpents. John 3:14 “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:”

The Lord also sent forth scorpions in the wilderness Deuteronomy 8:15 “Who led thee through that great and terrible wilderness, wherein were fiery serpents, and scorpions, ….” The scorpions’ power to hurt is in his "tail", which represents the "false prophet spirit" working "in" many deceivers. Isaiah 9:15 “The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.”

The power in the tail was symbolized in the tail of the red dragon drawing away the angels of heaven by his lies; and this power is also shown in Deaths army who was prophesied to come out of hell. Revelation 9:10 “And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were "stings" in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.” (Note concerning their sting 1 Corinthians 15:56 The "sting" of death is sin; )

So the Old Serpent "empowers" his body (the beast), just as Christ being the head "empowers" His Body the Church.

The serpent’s power to deceive and kill by deadly poison is in their mouth, and the scorpions have the same power to deceive in their tails. Revelation 9:19 “For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.”

But the good news for God’s elect is, they will not be deceived by all the lies and false doctrine in these many deceivers. Just as we are given "power" by our Lord tread on serpents and scorpions.
Luke 10:19 “Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.”

And their "deadly poison" will not hurt us. Mark 16:18 “They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”

So those who are of the Devil's seed are empowered by Satan, and by his spirit of a lie, to speak lies. But we who are born of God are empowered by Christ, and by the Spirit of Truth, to speak the Truth.

Death and Life are in the "power" of the tongue. -Proverbs 18:21

Peace and God bless
 
Hello @StewardoftheMystery,

Interesting slant on these verses: something that I had not considered before. I do not know, having not had time to consider each quotation within it's context, if all that you have said is Scripturally justifiable, but I thank you for entering your thoughts for consideration, for it is thought provoking.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
Hello @StewardoftheMystery,

Interesting slant on these verses: something that I had not considered before. I do not know, having not had time to consider each quotation within it's context, if all that you have said is Scripturally justifiable, but I thank you for entering your thoughts for consideration, for it is thought provoking.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Keep in mind what Paul said in….

1 Corinthians 2:7-13

King James Version

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
 
Both John the Baptist and Jesus spoke of a generation of vipers, and serpents.

Matthew 3:7 “But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Matthew 12:34 “O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.”
Matthew 23:33 “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?”

The generation of vipers and serpents pertains to those who are of the serpents "seed" as shown in Genesis 3:15. Jesus also referred to them as children of hell in Matthew 23:15 just as they are known as the children of that wicked one who sow bad seed in the world Matthew 13:38.

This bad seed is sown by lies and false doctrine that come from "the spirit" of their father the Devil. Just as God’s Word is the good seed sown by his children who have His Living Word and Spirit dwelling in them, these saints belong to the kingdom of heaven.

So these serpents spread their poison by their false doctrine. Deuteronomy 32:33 “Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.” Romans 3:13 “Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:”

In the wandering in the wilderness we are given a shadow of spiritual things to come when the Lord sent forth "fiery serpents" to bite and kill the rebellious children of Israel. Numbers 21:6 “And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.”

But the Lord also had a remedy for this poison of serpents in the serpent that the Lord had Moses raise up in Numbers 21:8 “And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.”

This would be a sign of Jesus being made sin for us, he also being raised up, and all those who seek him would be healed from the "deadly poison" of the serpents. John 3:14 “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:”

The Lord also sent forth scorpions in the wilderness Deuteronomy 8:15 “Who led thee through that great and terrible wilderness, wherein were fiery serpents, and scorpions, ….” The scorpions’ power to hurt is in his "tail", which represents the "false prophet spirit" working "in" many deceivers. Isaiah 9:15 “The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.”

The power in the tail was symbolized in the tail of the red dragon drawing away the angels of heaven by his lies; and this power is also shown in Deaths army who was prophesied to come out of hell. Revelation 9:10 “And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were "stings" in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.” (Note concerning their sting 1 Corinthians 15:56 The "sting" of death is sin; )

So the Old Serpent "empowers" his body (the beast), just as Christ being the head "empowers" His Body the Church.

The serpent’s power to deceive and kill by deadly poison is in their mouth, and the scorpions have the same power to deceive in their tails. Revelation 9:19 “For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.”

But the good news for God’s elect is, they will not be deceived by all the lies and false doctrine in these many deceivers. Just as we are given "power" by our Lord tread on serpents and scorpions.
Luke 10:19 “Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.”

And their "deadly poison" will not hurt us. Mark 16:18 “They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”

So those who are of the Devil's seed are empowered by Satan, and by his spirit of a lie, to speak lies. But we who are born of God are empowered by Christ, and by the Spirit of Truth, to speak the Truth.

Death and Life are in the "power" of the tongue. -Proverbs 18:21

Peace and God bless

This ties in nicely with one of your other threads "made in their own image" where you reference how some people react to having their views and understanding challenged. They don't like it. You should consider those 'forums' to be exactly that-- a forum, or even a church or synagogue where they have embraced certain ideas while rejecting others. Don't think that this place will be any different. You will find that you get pats on the back, or on the head as long as you post things that they agree with, but when you post something they cannot accept- watch out! The comparison to vipers is appropriate because they will strike out at you with that poisonous venom they are known for.

I'll encourage you to dive deeper into this study on seeds and sons and the idea of there being two different kinds-- two Fathers, two families. Jesus called one parable in particular 'the key' to understanding all others. What he said was that if you don't understand that one-- you won't understand anything he spoke about. So start there, and continue your investigation.
 
I'll encourage you to dive deeper into this study on seeds and sons and the idea of there being two different kinds-- two Fathers, two families. Jesus called one parable in particular 'the key' to understanding all others. What he said was that if you don't understand that one-- you won't understand anything he spoke about. So start there, and continue your investigation.
Yeah, God has given me understanding into the mystery of the 2 seeds. The “enmity” between the serpents seed and the woman’s seed. It is the same enmity between the children born of the “flesh” and the children born of God’s Holy Spirit.

Those who are of the spirit of the Devil are the children of darkness. Those who are born again of God’s Spirit are the children of Light.

It is those 2 opposing spirits that collide, as darkness is the opposite of Light; the lie is the opposite of the Truth.

I have written several studies on this enmity between “flesh” and Spirit. Some of which I have already posted. But you know, only those who have been born again of God’s Spirit will be able to fully understand it. Peace
 
Yeah, God has given me understanding into the mystery of the 2 seeds. The “enmity” between the serpents seed and the woman’s seed. It is the same enmity between the children born of the “flesh” and the children born of God’s Holy Spirit.

Those who are of the spirit of the Devil are the children of darkness. Those who are born again of God’s Spirit are the children of Light.

It is those 2 opposing spirits that collide, as darkness is the opposite of Light; the lie is the opposite of the Truth.

I have written several studies on this enmity between “flesh” and Spirit. Some of which I have already posted. But you know, only those who have been born again of God’s Spirit will be able to fully understand it. Peace

Hubris aside, you should be aware that light comes in degrees. You can only see what you can see until you see something more. It's true for them and you alike.

Consider that the seeds and the weeds grow side by side in the same soil. You Adam-- are that soil.
 
Hubris aside, you should be aware that light comes in degrees. You can only see what you can see until you see something more. It's true for them and you alike.

Consider that the seeds and the weeds grow side by side in the same soil. You Adam-- are that soil.
The hubris is you saying hubris, no?

By the way, do you go against repenting of sins to get saved and to stay saved?

John the baptizer and Jesus himself called people vipers because they went against repenting of sins.
 
Hubris aside, you should be aware that light comes in degrees. You can only see what you can see until you see something more. It's true for them and you alike.

Consider that the seeds and the weeds grow side by side in the same soil. You Adam-- are that soil.
I would say understanding comes in degrees. But you are either born again, or you are not. There is no lukewarm in that area. You are either in Adam or in Christ.
 
I would say understanding comes in degrees. But you are either born again, or you are not. There is no lukewarm in that area. You are either in Adam or in Christ.

Have you ever changed your mind? Had one opinion about something, then upon reconsideration come to think differently about the subject and had that opinion changed?

The truth didn't change, just your understanding of it. So yes, understanding comes in degrees and we see things with the light we are given. More light equates to more understanding.
 
Have you ever changed your mind? Had one opinion about something, then upon reconsideration come to think differently about the subject and had that opinion changed?

The truth didn't change, just your understanding of it. So yes, understanding comes in degrees and we see things with the light we are given. More light equates to more understanding.
Sure, I think most everybody changes their mind about what they believe to be true. But to understand “the Truth”we need Gods Spirit. For instance, men of science might believe they know the truth, but that is not God’s Truth

Just as there are many carnal Christian’s who have the wisdom of this world, being taught to them by other carnally minded men, but still do not understand the Truth.

Just as it is written, they are ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the Truth.

This is why we must be taught by God via His Word and Spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:10-12

King James Version

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
 
Sure, I think most everybody changes their mind about what they believe to be true. But to understand “the Truth”we need Gods Spirit. For instance, men of science might believe they know the truth, but that is not God’s Truth

Just as there are many carnal Christian’s who have the wisdom of this world, being taught to them by other carnally minded men, but still do not understand the Truth.

Just as it is written, they are ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the Truth.

This is why we must be taught by God via His Word and Spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:10-12​

King James Version​

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

The spirit comes in degrees also. It isn't a switch that gets flipped and suddenly you know. One can have a little light, or a lot. The more light you are given, the more you realize how full that light is (while never comprehending it's fullness) and how lacking we are in terms of understanding. The things you thought you knew, you become unsure of and the things you once "knew" you now reject as foolishness, It's a process.
 
The spirit comes in degrees also. It isn't a switch that gets flipped and suddenly you know. One can have a little light, or a lot. The more light you are given, the more you realize how full that light is (while never comprehending it's fullness) and how lacking we are in terms of understanding. The things you thought you knew, you become unsure of and the things you once "knew" you now reject as foolishness, It's a process.
There is only one way to get saved though and receive the Holy Spirit.
 
The spirit comes in degrees also. It isn't a switch that gets flipped and suddenly you know. One can have a little light, or a lot. The more light you are given, the more you realize how full that light is (while never comprehending it's fullness) and how lacking we are in terms of understanding. The things you thought you knew, you become unsure of and the things you once "knew" you now reject as foolishness, It's a process.
I agree there are different measures of the Spirit. But spiritual rebirth happens suddenly, as the heart/ mind of man is changed in an instant. But like a child being born, there is a process of growing stronger in the Spirit, as was shown in both John and Jesus.

Luke 1:80
And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, and was in the deserts till the day of his shewing unto Israel.

Luke 2:40
And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
 
I agree there are different measures of the Spirit. But spiritual rebirth happens suddenly, as the heart/ mind of man is changed in an instant. But like a child being born, there is a process of growing stronger in the Spirit, as was shown in both John and Jesus.

Luke 1:80
And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, and was in the deserts till the day of his shewing unto Israel.

Luke 2:40
And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.

lol. Yes birth happens suddenly. The child grows slowly.

It's not you that is born again. It's that child within. What's flesh is born of flesh. Spirit is born of spirit. It grows within.

It's what's inside that counts.
 
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