God and divorce...

[Shaolin]

Link to the Liddell Scott Lexicon for σφραγίζω

A, 1. close or enclose with a seal,​

2. authenticate a document with a seal,​

3. certify an object after examination by attaching a seal​

4. Med., seal an article to show that it is pledged,​

II. metaph. senses:​

1. close up as if with a seal,​

3. set a seal of approval upon, confirm,​

Kinda not hard to use that word "seal." Maybe the Cambridge Greek Lexicon has a different slant, but I didn't want to take the time.

SWAK,
Rhema

I don't do the Canbridge...but Zodhiates:

σφραγίζω
sphragízō; fut. sphragísō, from sphragís (G4973), seal. To seal, trans.:
(I) To seal, close up and make fast with a seal signet such as letters or books so that they may not be read (Sept.: 1Ki_21:8; Isa_29:11; Dan_12:4). Hence, figuratively of lips, to keep in silence, not to make known, with the acc. (Rev_10:4; Rev_22:10; Sept.: Dan_8:26). Generally, to seal or set a seal for the sake of security upon a sepulcher, prison, with the acc. (Mat_27:66; Rev_20:3; Sept.: Son_4:12). Figuratively, to secure to someone, make sure, deliver over safely, in the mid. with the acc. and dat. (Rom_15:28 [cf. Deu_32:34; 2Ki_22:4]).

(II) Generally, to set a mark upon a thing as a token of its authenticity or approvedness; used of persons, with the acc. (Rev_7:3); pass. (Rev_7:4-8). More often of decrees or documents, to attest by such a mark (Sept.: Est_8:8, Est_8:10; Job_14:17). Hence figuratively, to attest, confirm, establish, with the acc. (Joh_6:27 [cf. Joh_5:36]), followed by hóti (G3754), that (Joh_3:33). So also of Christians whom God attests and confirms by the gift of the Holy Spirit as the earnest, pledge, or seal of their choice of salvation. Mid. with the acc. (2Co_1:22); pass. (Eph_1:13; Eph_4:30).

Blessings!

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[Shaolin]

Well, what do you have to say about “Jesus” going to the cross for You!
Are you mad and upset about that!

Are you?

But I bet you think you are worthy for him to suffer and die for you!

All this pride within Christianity! People thinking they somebody and above Approach!

Got a 1000 excuses why they do not have to obey GOD! He hit me, he raise his voice at me. He is rude, he ain’t kind! Sinners who are saved by grace, for that is the only way sinners can be saved!

If a husband is beating the crap out of her, repeatedly, I do not think God is going to condemn her for divorcing him and getting out of that situation. I also believe, however, that a godly woman who is a woman of prayer just might stick things out, in prayer, because she loves God more than her own life. There are always circumstances in which God is the ultimate judge over...but I am not talking about these things - I am more talking about Christians who divorce just because they didn't follow Scripture in the first place and allowed things to get so bad in their own minds that they can't stand each other any longer. That is NOT a reason for divorce, yet it is 95% of the cases in the church today when it comes to Christian divorces.

And, BTW, no Christ follower is a "sinner," so if you think you are a "sinner saved by grace" you have a very rude awakening coming on judgment day. A Christ follower does not practice sin, therefore, he is not a sinner. By practicing sin, making yourself a sinner, you cut yourself off from that covenant grace and you are no longer abiding in Christ. That is what Scripture teaches, which is diametrically opposite of what the false religion of calvinism teaches.

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[Shaolin]

Not Quite, I’m gone and traveling beyond The Finite and pressing on into the incomprehensible for there is where we belong! For we have The mind of Christ! And we have been commanded to set our minds into Eternity where The Nominals cannot Go!

1Therefore, if you have been raised with Christ, keep seekingthe things that are above, whereChrist is, seated at the right handof God. 2[a]Set your minds on the things that are above, not on the things that are on earth.


New American Standard Bible
while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen; for the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

I am on fire tonight!

Um...he admitted that he is "gone"...so...that takes care of that, and explains much...

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[PloughBoy]

Um...he admitted that he is "gone"...so...that takes care of that, and explains much...

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You know what, this time the words coming out of your mouth, is “Nothing But The “TRUTH”!
“Press Down, Shaken Up and Running Over”!
We need to give him a “Kewpie Doll”!

 

[PloughBoy]

If a husband is beating the crap out of her, repeatedly, I do not think God is going to condemn her for divorcing him and getting out of that situation. I also believe, however, that a godly woman who is a woman of prayer just might stick things out, in prayer, because she loves God more than her own life. There are always circumstances in which God is the ultimate judge over...but I am not talking about these things - I am more talking about Christians who divorce just because they didn't follow Scripture in the first place and allowed things to get so bad in their own minds that they can't stand each other any longer. That is NOT a reason for divorce, yet it is 95% of the cases in the church today when it comes to Christian divorces.

And, BTW, no Christ follower is a "sinner," so if you think you are a "sinner saved by grace" you have a very rude awakening coming on judgment day. A Christ follower does not practice sin, therefore, he is not a sinner. By practicing sin, making yourself a sinner, you cut yourself off from that covenant grace and you are no longer abiding in Christ. That is what Scripture teaches, which is diametrically opposite of what the false religion of calvinism teaches.

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Tell me, was she not “Condemn” already when she came out from her mother’s womb and on her way to “external death”?

Or Are You a student of That “British monk” that came on That Screen in the 4th or 5th century I think it was. Because you think and talk just like him !

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

What I am talking about is not so much divorce...because I agree...sometimes it is necessary. I used to work in law enforcement for 25 years, I have seen things you can't imagine. Yet the woman (in such a case) that has to divorce and get away from a man who would kill her, if she is a Christian she is not released from her marriage in God's eyes until the husband dies or remarries.

To say "don't judge" is to show that you don't understand Scripture. We are commanded to make judgment calls, otherwise how are you supposed to know right from wrong? You can't. I do believe what you mean to say is don't condemn...and I do not. God is the only one who can condemn. I simply teach what Scripture teaches.

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Shaolin If you understood scripture you would know that when covenant is broken the woman is free....to live Trouble is...most Christians think covenant is made to be broken.you

 

[PloughBoy]

Shaolin If you understood scripture you would know that when covenant is broken the woman is free....to live Trouble is...most Christians think covenant is made to be broken.you

Most or a lot people have no idea what’s so ever is a “Biblical Covenant “ that has been Establish by The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY!

For many Summarize HIS Covenants in two minutes and Fly Away, claiming [Flapping] “I Know, I Know”. And hear ye, hear ye, this is what it means! That “Finite” mind Is unbelievable as it addresses The Things pertains toThe LORD GOD ALMIGHTY! Remarkable!

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Most or a lot people have no idea what’s so ever is a “Biblical Covenant “ that has been Establish by The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY!

For many Summarize HIS Covenants in two minutes and Fly Away, claiming [Flapping] “I Know, I Know”. And hear ye, hear ye, this is what it means! That “Finite” mind Is unbelievable as it addresses The Things pertains toThe LORD GOD ALMIGHTY! Remarkable!

Sir...we rarely agree, but we do agree this time... I find it remarkable that a covenant people do not understand covenant

 

[Garee]

The truth is that the number was 616.

Why? What is the spiritual significance 616 offer ? We know it based on the beast of the field created on 6 th. day

Some say he has not appeared yet and seek after a literal sign or mark to wonder after . Just like the man of sin the two are the same . 666 Mankind influenced by the father of lies.

 

[PloughBoy]

Why? What is the spiritual significance 616 offer ? We know it based on the beast of the field created on 6 th. day

Some say he has not appeared yet and seek after a literal sign or mark to wonder after . Just like the man of sin the two are the same . 666 Mankind influenced by the father of lies.

Well you do know who the Christian’s call “The Beast” during that time and why?

 

[Rhema]

(II) Generally, to set a mark upon a thing as a token of its authenticity or approvedness;

You mean like the "Good housekeeping seal of approval" ??

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Why? What is the spiritual significance 616 offer ?

Who knows? Make something up. You do that all the time.
But THAT'S what was written (616).
(cf. Wallace, et. al.)

 

[Garee]

Well you do know who the Christian’s call “The Beast” during that time and why?

Mankind is the beast of the field made with clay .Influenced by the god of this world .. 666. unredeemed mankind .


Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

It is not the number of Satan You could say his number is legion many antichrists under the influence of one father of lies

Not a salvation issue

Let him that hath understanding in that way 666 equals 2/3 . Remember 3 equals the end of a matter.

1/3 is attributed to God .The narrow road

2/3 to the god of this world and its inhabitants the wide road


That metaphor 2/3 (666) in comparison to 1/3 (333) is used in parables throughout the Bible . It can make a great study .

 

[Garee]

Who knows? Make something up. You do that all the time.
But THAT'S what was written (616).
(cf. Wallace, et. al.)

Make something up or rightly divide?

Some are looking for a outward sign or mark . Why?

 

[Garee]

You mean like the "Good housekeeping seal of approval" ??

Rhema

That is God's word as a seal of His approval . . and it was very good. The golden measure of faith ..Gold is the only rudiment of this world called good. God's seal of approval .the source of our little faith .

It is shown in a parable as rivers (4) to represent the gospel going out from the kingdom of God . . to the East West North and South or four corners of the world.

Pison meaning divided or distributed .

Genisis 2: 11-12 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.

Havilah is: That suffers pain, that brings forth. (gold of faith )

Again good represents God alone . When Jesus was bowed to to and venerated he dared not stand in the place of the unseen Father and replied to one who called him good One is good, God .

Call not man on earth Father, the good God .

 

[Shaolin]

Shaolin If you understood scripture you would know that when covenant is broken the woman is free....to live Trouble is...most Christians think covenant is made to be broken.you

That would be true but (if you understood Scripture correctly) marriage is more than just covenant; God designed men and women to become one when they have sexual intercourse...NOTHING can break that bond, it is a spiritual principle, and spiritual principle is magnitudes higher than simple doctrine. Those who think covenant was made to be broken have a problem walking with God - relationship with God is based upon covenant.

As I have stated before, there will be millions of people claiming to be Christians who are in for a rude awakening when they stand before God on judgment day...deceived right out of relationship with God and into eternal fire.

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[Shaolin]

Tell me, was she not “Condemn” already when she came out from her mother’s womb and on her way to “external death”?

No...what you are claiming here is part of the false religion of calvinism...you really need to learn what the true gospel of Jesus Christ and Scripture teaches. No one is condemned because of Adam's sin, that nonsense came straight out of calvin's carnal mind as he listened to the doctrines of demons.

Or Are You a student of That “British monk” that came on That Screen in the 4th or 5th century I think it was. Because you think and talk just like him !

I have no idea who you are talking about...probably just another figment from your imagination???

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[Shaolin]

Most or a lot people have no idea what’s so ever is a “Biblical Covenant “ that has been Establish by The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY!

Most people have heard about covenants, the problem is that they don't understand what it is, its function, or its principles of operation...and sadly, there is no way to summerize what they are. The most basic thing I could say is that a covenant is like a modern day contract except for one main difference - covenants always bring the participants into personal relationships. In the ancient near east, you did not enter into a covenant with a person/persons without understanding that you were entering into a legal familial relationship with him/them.

Think of a business contract on the same level and effect as a marriage relationship. The closest we have in America would be marriage or Native American "blood brother" covenants...when you share your blood with another, you become one with that person, just like Scripture says takes place in marriage. In God's eyes, when the man and woman have sex they become one individual living out life in two different persons. In God's eyes, there is no such thing as divorce because once you have been united with the other, there is no way to break that union, simply because they are no longer two individuals - they are one in His eyes.

Yet, He allows divorce for certain reasons.

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[Shaolin]

Sir...we rarely agree, but we do agree this time... I find it remarkable that a covenant people do not understand covenant

The problem is that most in the American church have not been taught about covenant because the leaders of the Reformation didn't know anything about covenant. Covenant gives boundaries to doctrine, and most Reformed doctrines are horribly wrong...so wrong that when one indoctrinated by calvinism hears and learns about the full covenant principles, it completely destroys Reformed doctrines and so...not being truth seekers, but bias defenders...they reject covenant and never teach it to anyone else.

They are like Pharisees, as Jesus put it - "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in" (Mat. 23:13).

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[Rhema]

God designed men and women to become one when they have sexual intercourse...

How come people ALWAYS drop out the word "flesh" ??

It surprises me you would.

Rhema