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You are begging the question instead of replying to the following:
'Are you saying Adam and Eve staying unclothed in God's most holy presence is a righteous deed?'.
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You are begging the question instead of replying to the following:
'Are you saying Adam and Eve staying unclothed in God's most holy presence is a righteous deed?'.
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You have quoted no scriptures. I have quoted Deuteronomy 1:39, Mathew18:6 etc. So quote a verse before begging the question.
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Mathew 18:5: "And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me".
'One such little child' refers to any child & all little children. It is in this background that Jesus says 'one of these little ones which believe in me (Mathew18:6)' to refer to all little children.
This is clear proof Jesus says all little children believe in Him.
Read the above verses before post your pet pholosophies here.
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Adam and Eve hid themselves because they were naked. So what are you talking about?
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They made themselves clothes out of fig leaves.
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I did give you scriptures. I gave you scriptures that say we have to be taught.
Here they are again:
Where does our faith come from, who do we come to believe? Our faith/belief comes from HEARING the word, see Romans 10:17. From hearing the word and being TAUGHT, Colossians 1:5, 7. From continuing in what we have been CONVINCED of, see 2 Timothy 3:14, and being PERSUADED, 2 Corinthians 5:11.
I can give you even more scriptures that say we have to be taught.
Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.
Deuteronomy 6:5-9 Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength. Take to heart these words that I give you today. Repeat them to your children. Talk about them when you’re at home or away, when you lie down or get up. Write them down, and tie them around your wrist, and wear them as headbands as a reminder. Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.
Deuteronomy 4:9-10 “But watch out! Be careful never to forget what you yourself have seen. Do not let these memories escape from your mind as long as you live! And be sure to pass them on to your children and grandchildren. Never forget the day when you stood before the Lord your God at Mount Sinai, where he told me, Summon the people before me, and I will personally instruct them. Then they will learn to fear me as long as they live, and they will teach their children to fear me also.”
Deuteronomy 11:19 Teach them to your children. Talk about them when you are at home and when you are on the road, when you are going to bed and when you are getting up.
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We have to change and become as little children means we have to humble ourselves and BE READY TO OBEY EVERYTHING OUR PARENT SAYS FOR US TO DO.
When we want to be saved by God...when we want to be HIS CHILD, we have to be ready to do everything HE SAYS TO DO.
The Holy Spirit is convicting us we yield to that convicting and accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. A little child is trusting - wanting to please God . They realize that Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose again for the personally. As a result they become a son or daughter of God / their heavenly Father. They will want to obey Him.
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In Mathew18:6 Jesus says little ones believe in Him.
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These verses never simply refutes the truth Jesus said little ones believe in Him according to Mathew18:6.
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They stayed unclothed in God's most holy presence before they ate the forbidden fruit. Was it righteous? Answer without dodging.
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You are scared to address the state Adam and Eve lived before they disobeyed God. Why are you running around?
Adam & Eve didn't have moral knowledge & that's why they stayed unclothed in God's most holy presence. You are afraid to address this truth!
It seems as though what the Holy Spirit will convict of is unbelievers for not believing in Him.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
It is the Father that draws us unto the Son;
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
It is the Father that hides the truth from the prudent and the wise and yet He is able to reveal His Son even unto babes.
Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
All credit seems to go to the Father as Jesus said the Father gives us unto the Son to be saved.
John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Since scripture gives the credit to the Father for us believing in His Son, then I would believe the Holy Spirit in us would lead us to give that full credit & glory to the Father as well.
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But God doesn't make babies, @Truth_seeker2022, ... uh... mommies and daddies do. God invested humans with the power and right to procreate. He doesn't do it for them.
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Hi Rhema it's been a while. Adam and Eve chose to believe Satan the serpent. Well Eve listened and Adam joined her in eating of the fruit. Apparently she was enticed by the idea of being like God with all the knowledge of good and evil. We weren't meant to have all that knowledge. And immediately they knew they were naked and his from God when He came by to see them. Never thought if that as brain damage. As human beings were not meant to have all that knowledge
We are capable of doing a great deal of good which can be seen in all the humanitarian help given. But also the extreme evil in this world. Adam and eve tried to cover themselves with the leaves. God covered their nakedness with the skins of the an innocent animal. The animal had to be killed and it's blood shed in the process.
Since it came through sinning , we need to put our trust in God's Word. Because we know that His Word is the truth. Society is getting more wicked by the day. God loves us and wants the best for us which is why He's given us all of the guidelines to follow. But He doesn't force us. He also warns us of the negative consequences of following our own evil desires.
So their belief in the serpent is the same as unbelief in God and His words thus the result of having the knowledge of good and evil which caused the fall of mankind.
And yet the simplicity of the gospel may be made clearer still with God's help and that is to see salvation has to be done by simply believing in Jesus Christ & His words.
1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Adam's fall brought all kinds of sins from unbelief in God and His words and so our believing in Him for all things and not just for eternal life, is how we can hope in Him for deliverance from all sins due to that unbelief in God & His words by believing in Him to do His work in us daily and finish it to His glory for why it is written that the just shall live by faith in Jesus Christ & His words to us = abundant life as living that reconciled relationship with God the Father thru Jesus Christ.
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John1:3: "Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made".
Jesus creates all babies.
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