God Does Not Speak To Us Directly

[Squeakybro]

Telling people that only you can interpret the bible on your own and God will only quote scripture, nothing more, oh and here let me help you understand it has got to be the ultimate power trip.

lol That is a gross lie. I never said that. And I never said that God will only quote scripture. God doesnt even talk to us.

 

[joestue]

Did I say you said that?

Secondly, within most christian circles, no one cares or would be offended if you said Jesus or the Holy Spirit spoke to you. It's the same God head thus the same point of authority.

No Christian I know of in real life would be offended if someone said God spoke to them when it was actually Jesus or the Holy Spirit.

But I've seen plenty of people on the internet get offended.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Well why is he here Since he can not speak to no one. And he is not a creator. Then if so his presence is useless here.

Very good point.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

If faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God who is God how can anyone ever please the Father for it is impossible to please God without faith?

Faith comes by hearing the Word of God which is the voice of Jesus who is God.

Excellent point here, well well well said.

 

[Squeakybro]

Did I say you said that?

Secondly, within most christian circles, no one cares or would be offended if you said Jesus or the Holy Spirit spoke to you. It's the same God head thus the same point of authority.

No Christian I know of in real life would be offended if someone said God spoke to them when it was actually Jesus or the Holy Spirit.

But I've seen plenty of people on the internet get offended.

Them people you talk about are hypocrites. True believers believe the truth.




[1Co 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
[Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

 

[Squeakybro]

Excellent point here, well well well said.

The Holy Spirit speaks Gods words.

Hidden Language Of The Holy Spirit-New Wine-Unknown Tongue
[1Co 2:1-5, 7, 9-11, 13-15
[1] And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God.
[2] For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
[3] I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling.
[4] And my speech and my preaching [were] not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
[5] that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God. ...
[7] But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden [wisdom] which God ordained before the ages for our glory, ...
[9] But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
[10] But God has revealed [them] to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
[11] For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. ...
[13] These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[14] But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
[15] But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is [rightly] judged by no one.
[Jhn 16:25, 27
[25] "These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father. ...
[27] "for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me, and have believed that I came forth from God.
[Jhn 14:13, 24-26
[13] "And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. ...
[24] "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
[25] "These things I have spoken to you while being present with you.
[26] "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
[1Co 14:10-11
[10] There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them [is] without significance.
[11] Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks [will be] a foreigner to me.
[1Jo 5:14-15
[14] Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.
[15] And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.
[Mat 13:11-13, 16-17
[11] He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
[12] "For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.
[13] "Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. ...
[16] "But blessed [are] your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear;
[17] "for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous [men] desired to see what you see, and did not see [it], and to hear what you hear, and did not hear [it].

xxx Its a knowledge that is so simple. Intellectuals will never see it. It can only be obtained by following the Holy Spirit into the kingdom of God(inside). And purging all your carnality and emotions. You cant gain this knowledge by reading other books and listening to other opinions. Only by submitting to the Holy Spirit and Jesus. The Holy Spirit only quotes new testament verses. He never works through emotions or feelings.
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[Mat 12:33–37
[33] "Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by [its] fruit.
[34] "Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
[35] "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.
[36] "But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
[37] "For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."

 

[Rookster]

God Does Not Speak To Us Directly

Jhn 5:37
"And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
Heb 1:1
God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2
has in these last days spoken to us by [His] Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
Heb 1:3
who being the brightness of [His] glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
Heb 1:4
having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
1Co 4:6
Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.

Jhn 12:48
"He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him--the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
Jhn 12:49
"For I have not spoken on My own [authority]; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
Jhn 12:50
"And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak."

xxx God does not speak to us directly sense Jesus came. Jesus speaks to us directly but God doesnt. God tells Jesus and Jesus tells us.

Although there are numerous examples in scripture where God talks to individuals

Today in the age of grace we are all supposed to be led by his Spirit within us.

Some would call it the quote unquote the inward witness

 

[joestue]

Them people you talk about are hypocrites. True believers believe the truth.

The issue isn't that they don't know who spoke to them, I was pointing out that they do not accuse each other of being hypocrites.

 

[Squeakybro]

I dont mind calling someone a hypocrite when the Holy Spirit tells me they are. Its not really me calling them a hypocrite its the Holy Spirit and I am just sharing that with them.

 

[Curtis]

No one knows the "thoughts" of God except the Spirit of God. We have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God. Anyone filled with the Spirit of God is filled with the "thoughts of God"

 

[PloughBoy]

It is kinda of funny many have said GOD does not talk right out to “us”.
Correction for you many, You should say: GOD does not Talk to Me!
Just because HE does talk to you does not mean He does not Talk to a few of us.
Just speak what you know about yourself.
For a would be Liar if I would say Jesus has not called me by my name and The Christophany Appeared. Then Iwas filled with The Holy Ghost of The GOD ALMIGHTY. And a few years Later He The Son introduced me To The FATHER and HE Talked to me and The Father Scolded me and HE The FATHER told me Who I Was by Asking me Two Questions and I have never been The Same. As we just walked together and I just listen and HE told me many Things. And He has never Stop Talking to me and from that day I never ask HIM about any thing. For HE is my Father for this I know.

Just maybe if many would stop worshiping The Church. For many The church is Their GOD
And many do not know it. Or can believe that They worship and serve the creation and not The Creator”. They are horrified to even entertain such. “TRUTH” that they are worshipers of a creation that a creature has declared Preeminence. For that is the only voice they can hear. For they cannot hear another but the Angel that appears as a Angel of light.

For you cannot serve two masters, now which one do you serve and hear?

 

[Squeakybro]

So your going to call Jesus a liar.

[Jhn 5:37-38
37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form. 38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
[Heb 1:1-2
1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by [His] Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

It is kinda of funny many have said GOD does not talk right out to “us”.
Correction for you many, You should say: GOD does not Talk to Me!

Can't argue with that. You are correct.

I agree one should speak in humility and share about their experiences,
rather than tell others definitely what is or is not happening spiritually.

Good point again.

 

[Curtis]

God talks to me every day. How can he not if he is living in me. It is called fellowship. I would be a "liar" if I said He doesn't.

 

[Squeakybro]

God talks to me every day. How can he not if he is living in me. It is called fellowship. I would be a "liar" if I said He doesn't.

It appears you have trifted off into your imagination. You will never hear God speak nor see His form.


John 5-37
"And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
"But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
Heb 1-1
God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
has in these last days spoken to us by [His] Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
John 1-1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2Co 5-5
Now He who has prepared us for this very thing [is] God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
1Co 4-6
Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
Rev 22-18
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

xxx You should learn where your thoughts or voices come from. You were born with a guardian angel, and a devil. And emotions which are unclean spirits. These are all your thoughts. Later when you receive the Holy Spirit He is only going to speak with the verses out of the new testament, Satan is going to speak with the old testament, verses. And all your emotions are going to push you towards your devil's opinion. All your affections are going to lead to your inner man. Your inner man is your spirit and soul. All your affections come from your soul. Your inner man is who you are.

[2Th 2:1-5
1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

 

[Curtis]

It appears you have trifted off into your imagination. You will never hear God speak nor see His form.


John 5-37
"And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
"But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
Heb 1-1
God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
has in these last days spoken to us by [His] Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
John 1-1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2Co 5-5
Now He who has prepared us for this very thing [is] God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
1Co 4-6
Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
Rev 22-18
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

xxx You should learn where your thoughts or voices come from. You were born with a guardian angel, and a devil. And emotions which are unclean spirits. These are all your thoughts. Later when you receive the Holy Spirit He is only going to speak with the verses out of the new testament, Satan is going to speak with the old testament, verses. And all your emotions are going to push you towards your devil's opinion. All your affections are going to lead to your inner man. Your inner man is your spirit and soul. All your affections come from your soul. Your inner man is who you are.

[2Th 2:1-5
1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Are you calling Jesus a liar?

 

[Gregoryp]

It appears you have trifted off into your imagination. You will never hear God speak nor see His form.


John 5-37
"And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
"But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
Heb 1-1
God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
has in these last days spoken to us by [His] Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
John 1-1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2Co 5-5
Now He who has prepared us for this very thing [is] God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
1Co 4-6
Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
Rev 22-18
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

xxx You should learn where your thoughts or voices come from. You were born with a guardian angel, and a devil. And emotions which are unclean spirits. These are all your thoughts. Later when you receive the Holy Spirit He is only going to speak with the verses out of the new testament, Satan is going to speak with the old testament, verses. And all your emotions are going to push you towards your devil's opinion. All your affections are going to lead to your inner man. Your inner man is your spirit and soul. All your affections come from your soul. Your inner man is who you are.

[2Th 2:1-5
1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

Never see his form?? Oh but I have, a white cloud drifted right past me during a sermon in a pentecostal building once, not long after I started to go to there building. it was at ankle level, and i almost feinted. Others seen it as well, the two pastors who were up on stage. Anyway, you see Gods glory every day, the oceans, the sky, the trees, the birds, mankind, the wind. He is visible to those who want to see him.

 

[Squeakybro]

Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Are you calling Jesus a liar?

Do you know the difference between God and Jesus? We as a people heard Jesus voice, and seen His form.


[Jhn 10:25-27
25 Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness of Me. 26 "But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27 "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

 

[Curtis]

Do you know the difference between God and Jesus?

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

The question is not who do I think Jesus is, the question is who do you say Jesus is?

If you do not believe that Jesus is the "I AM" you will die in your sins.

 

[Squeakybro]

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

The question is not who do I think Jesus is, the question is who do you say Jesus is?

If you do not believe that Jesus is the "I AM" you will die in your sins.

THE I AM DELUSION JOHN 8-58

Matt 16:13-17
13 When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, "Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?"
14 So they said, "Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.
John 7:39-43
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
40 Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet.
41 Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee?
42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
43 So there was a division among the people because of him.
John 7:51-52
51 Doth our law judge any man, before it hear him, and know what he doeth?
52 They answered and said unto him, Art thou also of Galilee? Search, and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet.
John 8:1-2
1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
John 8:12
12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
John 8:16-18
16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
John 8:21
21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
John 8:23-24
23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
John 8:28-29
28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
John 8:58-59
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
(KJV)
xxx Jesus was teaching in the temple and they were questioning Him on whether or not He was the Christ. Then they all went home and came back the next day to question Him some more. When Jesus told them: you will die in your sins if you do not believe that I am He. Then in verse 58 Jesus was telling them that even before Abraham that I am . But they picked up stones to throw at Him so they cut Jesus off in the middle of His sentance and Jesus got out of there. Jesus was claiming that" I AM He" the Christ. Jesus was not claiming He was God.
verse 24 and 28 Jesus said it, I am he. Jesus was saying He was the Christ that they were speaking of in John 7-41. But in is obvious why they didnt understand from John 7-39 they havent received the Holy Spirit yet. And even today many do not know the Spirit and get deceived in the verses.