Train up a child...... Should parents be held responsible for child's actions?

[Jesus_is_LORD]

This possibly could be moved to the News section, but there is also a Biblical context.

What are your thoughts on holding parents responsible for their teenager children behaviors?

Yea or Nay?

If a child gets in a fight and severely injures another child, should be parent be held liable as well?
Or only if the parent does not store firearms properly?

Just asking to hear thoughts, not putting forth a position.

 

[Reba1]

One of 5 kids .. my parents could not control what i did when i was not in their sight. Thankful they kept praying!

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

One of 5 kids .. my parents could not control what i did when i was not in their sight. Thankful they kept praying!

Very true.

What do you say about the negligence of buying a son a gun who clearly had behavioral issuses?

That seems to be bad parenting, but gets back to the question, should bad parenting in extreme cases be punished?
I guess it is already punished in terms of Social Services, abuse and neglect.

So I guess if CPS was called and before about neglectful parenting would that be the best route that this scenario should have went?
Just asking questions.

 

[Reba1]

I would not want some abortion promoting liberal deciding what bad parenting is.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

I would not want some abortion promoting liberal deciding what bad parenting is.

I can understand that perspective.

 

[Reba1]

If a child gets in a fight and severely injures another child, should be parent be held liable as well?

The ages of the children should/could be considered.

Or only if the parent does not store firearms properly?

what is stored property varies from family to family or life style. Living on a ranch/farm is very different then the city.
One law will not fit everyone equally

 

[Hitch]

Interesting question. The courts have long held that the public school servers as a surrogate parent. So if a parent can be held responsible , why not the school ?

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

The ages of the children should/could be considered.
what is stored property varies from family to family or life style. Living on a ranch/farm is very different then the city.
One law will not fit everyone equally

Good point on the ages.

With storing properly, I think different states have different laws regarding storing firearms, such as keeping in a locked box
and keeping ammunition separate from the gun, that is the standard one. But other states such as Michigan have no such laws.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Interesting question. The courts have long held that the public school servers as a surrogate parent. So if a parent can be held responsible , why not the school ?

Good point,

Many are raising that question as well.

However I would use the term guardian. I would agree that the public school is in a guardian role when students come into the school building.
They are not nor should fill the parental role, but are indeed in a guardianship role in which they are responsible to some degree.

 

[Reba1]

A rifle, like a 22, is often stored loaded around the door on a ranch/ farm for quick access. Not all of the critters are nice.

When working at the local school i found the 'school' can do much harm to ones child. Example take the girl to PP with out parent knowledge while calling home to ask about aspirin .

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

A rifle, like a 22, is often stored loaded around the door on a ranch/ farm for quick access. Not all of the critters are nice.

When working at the local school i found the 'school' can do much harm to ones child. Example take the girl to PP with out parent knowledge while calling home to ask about aspirin .

Good points you bring up. I appreciate your insight.

This reminds me more and more that this world is not our home.

I want to make things better, however I'm aware that our goal is not to make this world perfect.
Yet, I don't allow that knowledge to stop me for trying to make things better, however my hope is not
in this world.

Someone put it this way, Jesus did not come to save the world from destruction, He came to save us from a world which will be destroyed.

 

[Reba1]

I think Jesus came in part to build His Kingdom. Basing government laws on Biblical "law" to me is a good place to start. Christians a generation or so ago who stepped back from government , city, county, state federal, school boards especially come to mind fell into the hands of the world. I am speaking USA cause i live here.

 

[Hitch]

Good points you bring up. I appreciate your insight.

This reminds me more and more that this world is not our home.

I want to make things better, however I'm aware that our goal is not to make this world perfect.
Yet, I don't allow that knowledge to stop me for trying to make things better, however my hope is not
in this world.

Someone put it this way, Jesus did not come to save the world from destruction, He came to save us from a world which will be destroyed.

Someone put it this way, Jesus did not come to save the world from destruction, He came to save us from a world which will be destroyed

Hmmm So who said that ?



I want to make things better, however I'm aware that our goal is not to make this world perfect.

Would this qualify?
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Hmmm So who said that ?

Not sure. Heard it from some radio program.

 

[Hitch]

Not sure. Heard it from some radio program.

Possible the same gent who said we shouldnt be polishing the brass on a sinking ship.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Possible the same gent who said we shouldnt be polishing the brass on a sinking ship.

Likely

 

[Hitch]

Saw another headline about this and it brought a question to mind.

If these parents are liable ,especially in a criminal way, the hypothetically, wouldnt a prosecutor AKA DA be criminally liable for the actions of any and all police officers in his district ?

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Saw another headline about this and it brought a question to mind.

If these parents are liable ,especially in a criminal way, the hypothetically, wouldnt a prosecutor AKA DA be criminally liable for the actions of any and all police officers in his district ?

I don't think the DA and the police officers have that relationship,

perhaps one could try to make the argument with the police chief and the police officers.
For example when George Floyd died, it was said that the officer who killed him had 17 compliants against
him and nothing was done.

To make your analogy fit better, I would say it would be similar to holding the police chief accountable for not disciplining
the police officers under their supervision. Similar to children under the supervision of parents.

I think it is a fine line when you start holding parents accountable, I think some accountability is needed, how
does that look like, I don't know, which is why I'm seeing what others think.

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

Saw another headline about this and it brought a question to mind.

If these parents are liable ,especially in a criminal way, the hypothetically, wouldnt a prosecutor AKA DA be criminally liable for the actions of any and all police officers in his district ?

 

[Hitch]

Possible the same gent who said we shouldnt be polishing the brass on a sinking ship.

I don't think the DA and the police officers have that relationship,

perhaps one could try to make the argument with the police chief and the police officers.
For example when George Floyd died, it was said that the officer who killed him had 17 compliants against
him and nothing was done.

To make your analogy fit better, I would say it would be similar to holding the police chief accountable for not disciplining
the police officers under their supervision. Similar to children under the supervision of parents.

I think it is a fine line when you start holding parents accountable, I think some accountability is needed, how
does that look like, I don't know, which is why I'm seeing what others think.

Agreed. I think this will play out as an attempt to abridge gun rights, as out here there has been an attempt to make gun owners liable for damages if their weapons are stolen and used in a crime.