Why do so many Christians support abortion, gay lifestyles, etc.,?
Loyal
Well first of all, I dont know very many people who call themselves christians who are not against abortion. Perhaps you are including in your count, the people who know about Jesus and God, but never truly were born again. All that being said, many people dont want to say things that might upset people they like who are pro abortion.
Member
Yea, telling the truth is frowned upon and even disallowed by many Christian leaders.
Loyal
You dont need to lead a group of people who are somewhat christianity into battle against the forces wanting abortion. It doesnt work that way. Do what you can as per your "convictions" in the real world and by no means give up on prayer and asking God the question you ask here and then wait upon the Lord for the answer, but most people are too impatient for that. Be steadfast!
Loyal
2Tim 3:1 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty.
2 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
3 heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good,
4 treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
5 having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. [ESV]
Acts 20:29 I [Paul] know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock;
30 and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them.
Loyal
Ephesians 4:11 And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers,
12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ,
13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,
14 so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes.
12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ,
13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,
14 so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes.
Loyal
For many have deny "Christ" and turn around, and they do not even know it , and although they pray in His name, They honor Him in words and deeds But They deny "The LORD'S" Christ" and They deny His person. For HE is "THE ONE" That GIVES "LIFE". For HE is The One That makes things move. He is The One, that makes it wiggles. Movement does not move unless "The LORD" gives it The Movement to Move.
Whether it swims in the Oceans, The Rivers, The Small or Great SEAS, or Bathe and floats in ones mothers womb. It is a alive if it moves and the Blood runs through its veins. There is only ONE that can give life. And there are so many, trying to take life away.
Now why would that be? Because just maybe, we are a world of "Life Takers", and our weapons consist of many forms. Even the "Sweet Kisses" of LIPS could be dangerous to one's Life and The turn of The HEAD, could but you in The grave. For we are Creatures, even "APEX SUPER PREDATORS" male & females AND we will eat our own and if I will eat my own, what do you think I will do to you?
"Please hurry and come back here "JESUS" and delivery us, from this world and this Body, for you Promised you would. Come save us! From This World. {It only takes a text to take us away]
Whether it swims in the Oceans, The Rivers, The Small or Great SEAS, or Bathe and floats in ones mothers womb. It is a alive if it moves and the Blood runs through its veins. There is only ONE that can give life. And there are so many, trying to take life away.
Now why would that be? Because just maybe, we are a world of "Life Takers", and our weapons consist of many forms. Even the "Sweet Kisses" of LIPS could be dangerous to one's Life and The turn of The HEAD, could but you in The grave. For we are Creatures, even "APEX SUPER PREDATORS" male & females AND we will eat our own and if I will eat my own, what do you think I will do to you?
"Please hurry and come back here "JESUS" and delivery us, from this world and this Body, for you Promised you would. Come save us! From This World. {It only takes a text to take us away]
Loyal
Why do so many Christians support abortion, gay lifestyles, etc.,?
Because: They do it in The name of The WORDLY and Earthy word called "Love". And this worldly word called "love' it seems cannot be contain and have destroyed and broken "millions". The Abortionist is seeking comfort and peace, The "LBGTQ" is seeking comfort, peace, love and contentment. That is why they marry, for many marry because they have fell in "love'. That is why all kinds of couples live together they love one another and want to be together. People do not come together and live together to hate one another.
Like I have said Thousands of times through out my walk in "The SALVATION of GOD" GOD"S meaning of LOVE is so different Than The love the world and most christian knows, And the "happiness" of GOD is far different too. And It takes a Child of GOD about 10 -20 years,30 or 40 plus to learn what the LOVE of GOD is and the happiness of GOD is and to Believe it, once it is understood what it means.
"My ways are not your ways, My thoughts are not your thoughts." Just because we can say: "Agape" that is how GOD thinks? A lot of christians believe that. And you better not try to explain.
No this is what the definition of LOVE is in The mouth of GOD:
"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome," That is not a feeling. Real Love is not a feeling.
People, "I love him so i married him" I love her so I married her. Next month divorce, next year divorce, 10 years divorce, 20 years divorce, 30 years divorce. Child of GOD if you cannot figure that out. the Reason you have not learn, because you are holding hands with the world and we still hold hands with darkness rather than Light. and many of us are still liars. And we still preferrer "The Wilderness songs":
"Moses is not here and we waited on him, so we made a "Golden Calf" and we dance and cerebrated how GOD delivered us from Egypt and Pharaoh's Army." so we dance and committed "Orgies' we drunk and dine and cook the fatty calf. For we preferrer "riotous" living for it is our natural.
And one day when Jesus take the cover off "Man" he is going to know He deserves to go to hell and never come out. God will not have to throw him in, he will jump in. "figure of speech"
You see today, many are still blind, But Tomorrow, the light will come on, And we are going to get a good look who we really are. As age creep in I think you got a idea. we better hope we will not live a thousand years in old age. Because some are going to try to die and they cannot. Can we imagine today we are 67 and enter the "millennium' and live another 900 years and still growing old and grumpy. And living outside the gate.
We do read
Ok that is enough, gone back reading about "politics', "BLM", "Critical Race Theories", and what "Republicans , Democrat's" and the "LBGTQ" are doing. Go head keep taps on them. We need to be keeping track on these storms, Winds, rains, floods, food shortages, and all of these "meteors:. falling out the sky, The news is Censoring a lot of materials. that is unprecedented happenings, that never has been recorded before of such likes.
And no one seems to be putting on the pressure for revealing "world disasters". For the common people of this world are always "gullible" by the influence by "Deterrent" to steer from other directions of Great severity, to alleviate great stress and to hold back as long as possible. And History has testify this is a good practice.
Because: They do it in The name of The WORDLY and Earthy word called "Love". And this worldly word called "love' it seems cannot be contain and have destroyed and broken "millions". The Abortionist is seeking comfort and peace, The "LBGTQ" is seeking comfort, peace, love and contentment. That is why they marry, for many marry because they have fell in "love'. That is why all kinds of couples live together they love one another and want to be together. People do not come together and live together to hate one another.
Like I have said Thousands of times through out my walk in "The SALVATION of GOD" GOD"S meaning of LOVE is so different Than The love the world and most christian knows, And the "happiness" of GOD is far different too. And It takes a Child of GOD about 10 -20 years,30 or 40 plus to learn what the LOVE of GOD is and the happiness of GOD is and to Believe it, once it is understood what it means.
"My ways are not your ways, My thoughts are not your thoughts." Just because we can say: "Agape" that is how GOD thinks? A lot of christians believe that. And you better not try to explain.
No this is what the definition of LOVE is in The mouth of GOD:
"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome," That is not a feeling. Real Love is not a feeling.
People, "I love him so i married him" I love her so I married her. Next month divorce, next year divorce, 10 years divorce, 20 years divorce, 30 years divorce. Child of GOD if you cannot figure that out. the Reason you have not learn, because you are holding hands with the world and we still hold hands with darkness rather than Light. and many of us are still liars. And we still preferrer "The Wilderness songs":
"Moses is not here and we waited on him, so we made a "Golden Calf" and we dance and cerebrated how GOD delivered us from Egypt and Pharaoh's Army." so we dance and committed "Orgies' we drunk and dine and cook the fatty calf. For we preferrer "riotous" living for it is our natural.
And one day when Jesus take the cover off "Man" he is going to know He deserves to go to hell and never come out. God will not have to throw him in, he will jump in.
"figure of speech"You see today, many are still blind, But Tomorrow, the light will come on, And we are going to get a good look who we really are.
As age creep in I think you got a idea. we better hope we will not live a thousand years in old age. Because some are going to try to die and they cannot. Can we imagine today we are 67 and enter the "millennium' and live another 900 years and still growing old and grumpy. And living outside the gate.We do read
Ok that is enough, gone back reading about "politics', "BLM", "Critical Race Theories", and what "Republicans , Democrat's" and the "LBGTQ" are doing. Go head keep taps on them. We need to be keeping track on these storms, Winds, rains, floods, food shortages, and all of these "meteors:. falling out the sky, The news is Censoring a lot of materials. that is unprecedented happenings, that never has been recorded before of such likes.
And no one seems to be putting on the pressure for revealing "world disasters". For the common people of this world are always "gullible" by the influence by "Deterrent" to steer from other directions of Great severity, to alleviate great stress and to hold back as long as possible. And History has testify this is a good practice.
Member
I don’t know many actual Christian people that support these things
Again we live in a world that is controlled by the enemy and our govt and those in power are a threat to religious belief
Churches hands are tied because if a gay couple want to go to the church and are denied marriage ( which should be the right of the church) Churches and religious organizations are generally exempt from income tax and receive other favorable treatment under the tax law
They are threatened with loss of this
So they turn a blind eye
We are under attack from the enemy and he has many ways to destroy the church
Giving the false belief that Christian people don’t have the conviction to stick to gods law by enforcing these man made laws can turn people from our father which is what he wants to do
Pray for the church because regardless of what the people in power tell us gods word is not a “ non essential “ function for society
It’s very essential in the world we live in today
Shalom
Again we live in a world that is controlled by the enemy and our govt and those in power are a threat to religious belief
Churches hands are tied because if a gay couple want to go to the church and are denied marriage ( which should be the right of the church) Churches and religious organizations are generally exempt from income tax and receive other favorable treatment under the tax law
They are threatened with loss of this
So they turn a blind eye
We are under attack from the enemy and he has many ways to destroy the church
Giving the false belief that Christian people don’t have the conviction to stick to gods law by enforcing these man made laws can turn people from our father which is what he wants to do
Pray for the church because regardless of what the people in power tell us gods word is not a “ non essential “ function for society
It’s very essential in the world we live in today
Shalom
Loyal
Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
Matthew 22:17 Tell us, then, what you think. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?”
18 But Jesus, aware of their malice, said, “Why put me to the test, you hypocrites?
19 Show me the coin for the tax.” And they brought him a denarius.
20 And Jesus said to them, “Whose likeness and inscription is this?”
21 They said, “Caesar's.” Then he said to them, “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.”
Member
That is true it was prophesied the Lord said you will be taken over by your enemies and displaced into territories because your ancestors did wrong so Jesus said to pay taxes and pray for those that are ruling over you as long as it does not dissuade youFrom doing the father’s Commandments unfortunately a lot of churches don’t follow this commandment
But remember there are several instances that people submitted to the ruling dictatorship
Jacob submitted to pharaoh
Daniel submitted to Nebuchadnezzar
Jesus paid taxes to Rome (even had Peter get a coin out of a fishes mouth)
But they didn’t go against gods authority
Member
Perhaps for the same Reasons "Christians" see no problem in supporting military action and wars and spending hundreds of Billions of $ on arms and weapons of death and destruction, see no problem in leading lives that are destroying Gods Earth and condemning Millions to lives of abject poverty and suffering, ive even seen Christians claiming their Country was "blessed by God", or who have "In God we trust" on their banknotes, even though Christ said you "Cant serve God and Mammon", ive seen Christians support Hate filled anti immigration policies and even the building of a wall to keep out their poor neighbours, ive seen Christians in my country supporting a Government thats just cut Overseas Aid that will cost the lives of around 100,000 men, women and children in the poor countries every year and who oppose the sharing of COVID vaccine technology with poorer nations that has already caused such death and suffering all in the name of Big Pharma Profits,........ yes we ALL fall so far short of Gods Commandments of Love, Compassion and Justice that ALL of us are in dire need of his mercy and forgiveness.
Active
There is a spiritual war going between darkness and light. Unfortunately wars, and treatment of certain nations has to be done to slow done or even totally stop the darkness from prevailing. Think of it as putting a huge boulder in someones path to slow there journey down, not necessarily stop them. Government aid for example rarely goes to those in need, rather it goes to the elite of those nations. Hospitals, schools? No. Parks, military weapons, Rolls Royces, Rolex watches for the administration? Yes. And where does the food go? Usually to those who support the regime.
Member
There is a spiritual war going between darkness and light. Unfortunately wars, and treatment of certain nations has to be done to slow done or even totally stop the darkness from prevailing
There is indeed a spiritual war going on
Those in power are guided by dark forces to prevent the light from shining
take heed that one day the father will again take back what is his led by our messiah, who once rode a donkey
He WILL NOT be riding a donkey when he returns
Revelation 19
saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice, he judges and wages war.
Riding a horse means going to battle!!
And he will judge the wicked , as for now the worlds injustices is something we all live with, that’s why it is important now more than at anytime we stand true and faithful to the father god
Don’t let the world dissuade you or turn you from YOUR path because even if I don’t live to see it I know judgement will come
the world may be wicked
Joshua 24:15
As for Me and My Household, We Will Serve the Lord.
Stand firm
Shalom
There is indeed a spiritual war going on
Those in power are guided by dark forces to prevent the light from shining
take heed that one day the father will again take back what is his led by our messiah, who once rode a donkey
He WILL NOT be riding a donkey when he returns
Revelation 19
saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice, he judges and wages war.
Riding a horse means going to battle!!
And he will judge the wicked , as for now the worlds injustices is something we all live with, that’s why it is important now more than at anytime we stand true and faithful to the father god
Don’t let the world dissuade you or turn you from YOUR path because even if I don’t live to see it I know judgement will come
the world may be wicked
Joshua 24:15
As for Me and My Household, We Will Serve the Lord.
Shalom
Member
You'd be surprised.
"Views about abortion - Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics | Pew Research Center" Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics
Member
I’m disturbed by this poll
I just can’t find myself thinking true Christians can possibly believe this one in particular
Religious Landscape Study
Explore the geographic distribution and demographics of America's major religious groups.
www.pewforum.org
SHALOM
Active
Ahh well, so much for this verse:
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power/authority is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
(Matthew 28:18 KJV)
I'm not sure the Family would agree with you.
Maybe we can head down to the next National Prayer Breakfast.
Perhaps the question might be, Should Christians use the power of Government to impose their moral agenda, lording it over others. Isn't the Gospel to be an internal spiritual transformation of the individual?
Rhema
Active
Waggles, everyone hearing Jesus knew that nothing of Zion was Caesar's.... Rome occupied because of the lack of faith of the Jew. It's that simple.
Rhema
Member
I’m disturbed by this poll
I just can’t find myself thinking true Christians can possibly believe this one in particular
I would scrutinize this site myself ask yourself what Christian would believe these things about evolutionReligious Landscape Study
Explore the geographic distribution and demographics of America's major religious groups.
SHALOM
I'm currently on a 6-month suspension from another Christian forum for confronting a Christian that supports abortion for any reason. That prompted me to do a little searching and I discovered that, per that poll, nearly HALF of Catholics and 1/3 of Protestants support abortion for any reason. And when I posted my question in the OP, I was a bit gunshy that I would be attacked by other Christians for the question.