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Brad Huber

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Hey everyone, I saw a verse in Acts while reading scripture that said the Holy Spirit is given to those who "obey". Very interesting, never thought about that before. I did know through the Holy Spirit, that He will leave a person if He is not wanted or used. Not meaning they will certainly lose their salvation, but it certainly would explain how some who identify as christian is more worldly than spiritual.

Let see who can find this first. If no one else sees it, I will post it in a couple of days.
 
Man I just read that recently and its been on the back of my mind to post up.

Acts 5:32
And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit,
whom God has given to those who obey him.”
 
yep, thats it Dave, you win the big prize! I know you have the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit told me!
 
I think in this verse "obedience" is the initial response to God's call - to believe, repent and be baptised.
I am not sure about the baptism part but agree with the rest, research tells me it means obeying is putting faith in His Son!
 
Assume those ideals at your own peril. Those who do something with their coin, are rewarded by God, and those who hide their coin, will get even that coin taken from them.
 
Assume those ideals at your own peril. Those who do something with their coin, are rewarded by God, and those who hide their coin, will get even that coin taken from them.
No doubt, obedience is lifelong, continued submission to Lord Jesus. But in this particular verse, I think it's the initial turning to Christ in mind.
 
No doubt, obedience is lifelong, continued submission to Lord Jesus. But in this particular verse, I think it's the initial turning to Christ in mind.

Yes, i think you might be right, Hekuran @Hekuran

reminds me of 'many are called but few are chosen'
It could 'almost' read, 'many are called but few choose to hearken'[or, to choose this day, etc.]

Some may say that is works but in reality, if the phone rings and do do answer it, is that 'works'?

Back in the day and perhaps even now, the religious sort [scribes, lawyers, Pharisees, High Priests and the Council' would have had issue with it, if it was done on the Sabbath. As with people getting healed. Not at all interested in someone being set free.. but very upset that Jesus had done 'work'. I shake my head at that. Even the accounts given, you'd be hard pressed to call what actually was done as 'work'.

So. yes.
If we eliminate the works side, we might see that Jesus has called, The Father has drawn someone.... "He is the 'Worker'.... and Jesus might be heard to say, "Come, follow Me". So, if someone obeys that call... it is Him Who they will be following.
Will He then refuse to give that which He has promised to those who obey Him? No.

In fairness, though, I think Brad @Brad Huber was suggesting that there appear some who say they are Christian and even believe [who are we to judge?] and yet there seems something lacking? Question is, as pertaining to the said verse, have they obeyed regarding the 'baptism' of the Holy Ghost? Is that why they are seemingly 'lacking' in their 'walk'?
I would not suggest that should be the 'judgement' passed, if we see someone who doesn't quite seem to line up to what we think is 'Spirit filled'. We all need to watch our own steps. Often, when we use the same microscope on ourselves, we see similar, if not the same or 'worse' contradictions and what can only be summed up as dis-obedience.
Another good reason the Lord would have us fellowship; that we may build one another up in the most holy faith.


Bless you ....><>
 
I am not sure about the baptism part but agree with the rest, research tells me it means obeying is putting faith in His Son!
I had Acts 2:38 in mind Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
 
I had Acts 2:38 in mind Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Yea, I'm not sure about the baptism part.
Many feel that is water baptism, I am not too sure about that ; I think you can be saved in or out of water.
 
Not understanding your comments?
Think of the parable of the talents, and consider those talents to possibly mean use of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, which was given to build up the church in the way it was intended, and not the way of the pharisees recruitment as per Jesus's comparison.
 
Yes, i think you might be right, Hekuran @Hekuran

reminds me of 'many are called but few are chosen'
It could 'almost' read, 'many are called but few choose to hearken'[or, to choose this day, etc.]

Some may say that is works but in reality, if the phone rings and do do answer it, is that 'works'?

Back in the day and perhaps even now, the religious sort [scribes, lawyers, Pharisees, High Priests and the Council' would have had issue with it, if it was done on the Sabbath. As with people getting healed. Not at all interested in someone being set free.. but very upset that Jesus had done 'work'. I shake my head at that. Even the accounts given, you'd be hard pressed to call what actually was done as 'work'.

So. yes.
If we eliminate the works side, we might see that Jesus has called, The Father has drawn someone.... "He is the 'Worker'.... and Jesus might be heard to say, "Come, follow Me". So, if someone obeys that call... it is Him Who they will be following.
Will He then refuse to give that which He has promised to those who obey Him? No.

In fairness, though, I think Brad @Brad Huber was suggesting that there appear some who say they are Christian and even believe [who are we to judge?] and yet there seems something lacking? Question is, as pertaining to the said verse, have they obeyed regarding the 'baptism' of the Holy Ghost? Is that why they are seemingly 'lacking' in their 'walk'?
I would not suggest that should be the 'judgement' passed, if we see someone who doesn't quite seem to line up to what we think is 'Spirit filled'. We all need to watch our own steps. Often, when we use the same microscope on ourselves, we see similar, if not the same or 'worse' contradictions and what can only be summed up as dis-obedience.
Another good reason the Lord would have us fellowship; that we may build one another up in the most holy faith.


Bless you ....><>
Yes, that was the point, and those with the baptism of the Holy Ghost or not so will be judged by God, not us.... just as in the parable of the talents.
 
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