Anti-Homosexuality sermom

This bloke must have studied at the feet of John Shelby Spong
“Unless biblical literalism is challenged overtly in the Christian church itself, it will, in my opinion, kill the Christian faith. It is not just a benign nuisance that afflicts Christianity at its edges;
it is a mentality that renders the Christian faith unbelievable to an increasing number of the citizens of our world.”
― John Shelby Spong, Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy: A Journey into a New Christianity Through the Doorway of Matthew's Gospel.
 
“Atonement theology assumes that we were created in some kind of original perfection. We now know that life has emerged from a single cell that evolved into self-conscious complexity over billions of years.
There was no original perfection. If there was no original perfection, then there could never have been a fall from perfection. If there was no fall, then there is no such thing as “original sin”
and thus no need for the waters of baptism to wash our sins away.
If there was no fall into sin, then there is also no need to be rescued. How can one be rescued from a fall that never happened?
How can one be restored to a status of perfection that he or she never possessed? So most of our Christology today is bankrupt.
Many popular titles that we have applied to Jesus, such as “savior,” “redeemer,” and “rescuer,” no longer make sense, because they assume.”
― John Shelby Spong, Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy: A Journey into a New Christianity Through the Doorway of Matthew's Gospel
 
Waggles said:
This bloke must have studied at the feet of John Shelby Spong
“Unless biblical literalism is challenged overtly in the Christian church itself, it will, in my opinion, kill the Christian faith. It is not just a benign nuisance that afflicts Christianity at its edges;
it is a mentality that renders the Christian faith unbelievable to an increasing number of the citizens of our world.”
― John Shelby Spong, Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy: A Journey into a New Christianity Through the Doorway of Matthew's Gospel.
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As you probably know the bloke on the left in the post is gay and married to a man. and the word of God never changes, there isnt a new christianity or a new way of faith, its always been the same.
 
Gregoryp said:
As you probably know the bloke on the left in the post is gay and married to a man. and the word of God never changes, there isn't a new Christianity or a new way of faith, its always been the same.
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That is why he and his ilk are students of the former Bishop John Shelby Spong - probably the most infamous of these latter times apostates that write against the truth of scripture and the truth of the gospel.
My second quote from Bishop Spong encapsulates his doctrinal unbelief - evolution is true therefore Jesus as Saviour is not true.
Bishop Spong also claims that Jesus did not rise from the dead nor are his miracles true. It was all made up by the apostles to create a new religion to displace Judaism.
Liberal free thinking broadminded pseudo Christians have replaced the gospel of repentance with the gospel of social action and diversity.
They are the walking dead.
Eternity is a very very long time to regret how wrong one was.
 
Even if there was biological evidence for someone being immutably gay, would that change God's commandment? And would that change a believer of God and the Lord children that it is not sin? I sure hope not! Although as it stands there isn't any which helps in this "debate". I liken this to my ex "alcoholism". They say once an alcoholic always an alcoholic but I say that could be true but very false after you add the life saving blood of the Lord! A new creature I am and I'm his! Hallelujah!
 
Don Lemon is essentially saying that God is about love and would never judge His most favoured creation as many Christians have described. Sadly, he is playing the same game the Serpent played with Eve: God didn't really mean that.

Mr. Lemon isn't wrong about getting out and actually meeting and talking to people. The opportunity can be used as an effective witness to one's faith. The irony is that Mr. Lemon has standards he expects others to uphold. The only thing that Jesus ever truly taught is for us to seek the will of our heavenly Father. Cheers
 
Mister said:
Even if there was biological evidence for someone being immutably gay, would that change God's commandment? And would that change a believer of God and the Lord children that it is not sin? I sure hope not! Although as it stands there isn't any which helps in this "debate". I liken this to my ex "alcoholism". They say once an alcoholic always an alcoholic but I say that could be true but very false after you add the life saving blood of the Lord! A new creature I am and I'm his! Hallelujah!
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Biologically, people’s DNA can be altered but that does not make it acceptable. Homosexuality is a spiritual disease so it is not surprising if it manifests physically as a biological condition. But this godless world will seek to normalise diseases like homosexuality because they want to satisfy their own lusts.

Remember the apostles said that sexual sin (homosexuality) is a sin against your own body, that is why it will manifest as a biological condition. But the world would rather continue in this illness rather than seek Jesus who came to heal the sick.
 
Shutterbug said:
Don Lemon is essentially saying that God is about love and would never judge His most favoured creation as many Christians have described. Sadly, he is playing the same game the Serpent played with Eve: God didn't really mean that.
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I totally agree. But the world's views are changing and have been for some time. Up until the early 1900's it was common to hear preachers preach about 'The Wrath of God'. Then came the change, 'God is love', this has grown to such an extent preachers don't preach about The Wrath of God, they only want to hear 'God is Love'.

Now we cannot upset the congregation can we, 50% could walk out! If 50% walk out because they only want to accept 'God is Love', they don't know God!

Some say, well yes I know about the Wrath of God, that is at the end of time for none believers some say. Really!

So many want a God to suit them, they create their own God by their thoughts. Sadly many are still listening to the serpent, 'surely God won't pour out is Wrath on a believer, God is Love!'
 
God is love but he would not make two men together to fornicate together it’s one man one women not two men and for two men to wed is going against the lord taught
 
Godbehonored said:
Biologically, people’s DNA can be altered but that does not make it acceptable. Homosexuality is a spiritual disease so it is not surprising if it manifests physically as a biological condition. But this godless world will seek to normalise diseases like homosexuality because they want to satisfy their own lusts.

Remember the apostles said that sexual sin (homosexuality) is a sin against your own body, that is why it will manifest as a biological condition. But the world would rather continue in this illness rather than seek Jesus who came to heal the sick.
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Normalization starts with labeling sin as an illness. Acting out sex sins is a choice a freewill choice.
 
Lev 18:22; You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

Definitely a sin.

1Cor 6:9; Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
1Cor 6:10; nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

Rom 1:26; For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,
Rom 1:27; and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Rom 1:28; And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,
Rom 1:32; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, not only those who do the same, but also those who give approval to those who practice them.

1Tim 1:9; realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers
1Tim 1:10; and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching,
1Tim 1:11; according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

Mark 10:6; “But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female.
 
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