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Should Christians get the Covid Vaccine?

Having the Covid vaccine is .....

  • Absolutely essential

    Votes: 10 27.8%
  • Playing Russian roulette - dangerous

    Votes: 20 55.6%
  • Not my choice but I will because everyone else is

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Something I'm not sure about

    Votes: 6 16.7%

  • Total voters
    36
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There is lots of debate around the safety of the Covid Vaccine

There are lots of theories around about what it contains - magnetism etc

There is lots of pressure to get the vaccine even in Australia where Covid cases have been very low

Should Christians be getting the vaccine?

If so why?

And if not why not?

Blessings Grace and Peace to you all in these last dark days.
 
Loyal
I think If The Vaccination is so safe. Then FDA should approve it, with full "Master Medical" Blue Cross Blue Shield, with a "TOP DOG" Lawyer. because "BLM" :eyes: . and they are pushing the Envelope. And I know pushing the envelope in "Australia" concerning such matter is against the law there. I have done my homework.

PS for some to "Die" is a gain" I can see why a lot of Christians want to hang around here. But a Son to leave , is called "Benefits" :eyes:

Why take the shot are you scared? Scared of What?
 
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This is the greatest global hoax since War of the Worlds was broadcast by Orson Welles in 1938.

The shots people are getting are not vaccines. Vaccines prevent you from being infected. Those shot are not vaccinating anyone because hundreds of thousands of people are getting sick from the shots. The reason the global governments are calling them vaccines is part of the hoax. This is Bill gates et al effort to control the population by mass sterilization and death of the elderly.

Gates bought thousands of acres of prime farm land only to leave it alone and let it overgrow. Why? He and other global elites are planning to use the earths farmlands to produce veggies grown by them and will have monopoly on veggies for the world's consumption once they elect enough godless lefties to end all or close to all meat-eating.

In addition, the leftists marxists are in control of most governments, most of education, industry, and many churches. All part of Satan's plan to lull the lost into his fold.
 
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I thought I would look back on the vaccine if any of them is fully fda approved. Right now, vaccine companies are not being held liable for short or long term effects, and that is disturbing to me. I am not sure if they would be if it is fully fda approved, but someone should have to answer for the repercussions of it.

Things I personally see that is also concerning-

-I've known a few who have gotten the vaccine then gotten covid close after. The vaccine did not prevent someone from getting the virus nor does the vaccine guarantee to stop the spread.

-Most everyone I know has had horrible side effects from getting the vaccine. They go away, but it is a red flag to me. I've never known a vaccine to cause this much side effect-people talking about side effects.

-though places are not allowed to ask, places like WalMart say you do not have to wear a mask if you have gotten the vaccine. This should not only be a personal decision, but if the vaccine really did protect against the spread, why do non vaccinated have to wear a mask? Adults are more then capable to weigh the positive and negatives and decide for themselves if they want an emergency drug put into their bodies. It is a red flag that non vaccinated are then shamed for speaking concerns against it. I do not want to make a decision based off of scholarship drawings for my kids or free ice cream.

-mainly, for me, long term effects are not known. Though it has been studied for twenty years, there are reasons why it wasn't fully fda approved to begin with. A certain amount of people who have taken the vaccine have to be followed for 6 months and only recently I think has it been eligible to be filed for approval. Other vaccinations have had much longer term data.

-I am unsure what I think about "mRNA" , but I do not want to take any vaccination with hek cells or on the line of an aborted fetus.

Positives I see:

-offers some saftey. If people feel safe taking it, I see nothing wrong with it. I have taken vaccinations before. With my health and age group, I think I can wait and see for a bit on this.

-for the most part those who have taken the vaccine that I know look normal enough and feel better because of it. Peace of mind is important. I believe God can protect people from a vaccine just as much as He can from a virus. If it is made mandatory on full approval, I'll more then likely take it. Trust it into God's hands. It isn't the mark of the beast yet. World can have every bit of this body suit. My spirit belongs to God, and no one can touch that.
 
Loyal
I am not stopping or telling any body to not take the shot. But everybody who have taken the shot trying to push the envelope my way, telling me I should take the shot. I just keep my mouth close. Here in the USA,a lot of people are suppose to take the 2nd shot, have Not show up :eyes: Now they are saying they have to throw away millions of expired dosages. I saw right on video in which a worker fake a shot, it was no medicine is the Needle and the plunger was already down, And they caught it, the daughter of the patient, then the operator of the Needle, said Oh.

We just cannot trust them. They broke trust. If A lot of Health care workers will not take the shot. We, don't trust them. And if they think they can place a Celebrity in advertising for us to believe them. I know they have lost their mind, those are the last people we will believe, for they might be on the payroll!
I know a family member has gotten sick too from the vaccine. About 4 got the shot and he was the only one who got real sick. They keep things kinda quiet.
 
Loyal
Imagine if you will...

A virus so deadly - that you have to be tested to know if you have it.

A vaccine so safe - that you have to be coerced to take it, and the FDA will not approve it.


...and yet in all of this, there has been no huge death spike over the last two years.
 
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Loyal
There has been a huge death spike. See in the UK for example.

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Loyal
I took both shots of a vaccine as soon as I was eligible.

I'm not so worried for myself, as I think I'd probably be able to cope with the disease. But it gives me assurance that I'm less likely to get it and pass it on to someone who is more susceptible.
 
Active
I took both shots of a vaccine as soon as I was eligible.

I'm not so worried for myself, as I think I'd probably be able to cope with the disease. But it gives me assurance that I'm less likely to get it and pass it on to someone who is more susceptible.

And I hope that this goes well for you and it does as you think. Did you have many side effects? Are you feeling okay?
 
Loyal
There has always been pestilences, there always will be, some may be mild, some severe, some having a cure and some not.

Scripture tells us clearly... There WILL BE and INCREASE in PESTLENCES

We are very fortunate that a vaccine, that many vaccines have been created so quickly, note, with the talents given to certain people by God.

Where we are most unfortunate is the evil and scaremonger that is around, along with fear (which always comes from the devil). Social media and the internet being a big source, in a world of high speed communication, good and bad.

If anything, data should prove to people, the only way the virus can be controlled is with the vaccine, when it wasn't there the infections and hospitalisation and deaths was high, once the vaccine started to increase, the number of infections and fatalities reduced (Not so in countries that were not prepared and do not have the vaccines)

So far, more than 41 million people have had a first vaccine dose - 78% of the adult population - and almost 30 million have had a second.

It is also clear to see, I think, that once restrictions have been lifted the infections have started to shoot up rapidly, it is only by an effective vaccine, worldwide that the pestilence will be controlled. Meanwhile under developed countries, highly populated countries, and those where extended families are housed together, children, parents, gran parents, great gran parents, are most vulnerable, a common factor with Asian countries. Another issue which is clear from data is cities and highly populated town, places with lots of multiple occupation are also breeding grounds for the virus.

What will happen if the large majority of the world doesn't have the virus, it will continue to spread, it will continue to create suffering, it will continue to take lives. Meanwhile, the virus mutates, the first wave was bad, but was mild compared to the second, the Kent variant, and the Brazilian variant. But then we saw the third variant, the Indian variant, more infections that those prior to it, each time the variant comes back with vengeance in a slightly different way. Scripture says there WILL be and INCREASE in PESTILENCES.

It is summer in the UK, last year we saw figures drop in the summer but raised sharply in autumn and winter, this summer has seen a massive drop in infections until the Indian variant raised it's head, the issues are mainly in pockets of the country, large cities and the north west, the north west was always a milling country, it attracted over the years, Indian, Pakistani people who would work in factories, things have changed but these groups still live in these areas, and as said earlier, they are the ones who live together in extended families. The more people come together data shows, the bigger the risk of infection, social distances has helped but the big help has been the roll out of the vaccine, and this will be the government and health services push to get as many people as possible vaccinated before the autumn and winter.

I had the two jabs and I do have issues with drugs, I prayed and was at peace, my wife has had them, our family in various parts of the country have had them. Some people have a day or a couple of days of side effects, those who had the flu jab also tell me it had side effects.

You may find this link helpful.

Uk and world data regarding Civid19 injections
 
Loyal

The last years are not any significant high death rate. Other years have been higher.
 
Loyal

The last years are not any significant high death rate. Other years have been higher.
Did you see the note on the graph saying all data after 2020 is projected and does not take into account the effects of covid?
 
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Did you see the note on the graph saying all data after 2020 is projected and does not take into account the effects of covid?

I wonder with all the world data why the graph doesn't take the effects of covid under account. Seems like that would be significant, even with estimated data.
 
Loyal
I wonder with all the world data why the graph doesn't take the effects of covid under account. Seems like that would be significant, even with estimated data.
There's country-by-country data in graphs here, if you're interested. These are deaths due to all causes.

 
Loyal
I wonder with all the world data why the graph doesn't take the effects of covid under account. Seems like that would be significant, even with estimated data.

A death is a death, no matter what the cause.
While some sites inflate the "Covid related" deaths. There has been a steep decline in all other types of deaths.
The bottom line is... there hasn't been any noticeable increase of deaths the last two years.

For 18 months we've heard, wear a mask. Avoid people. Avoid the virus at all costs.
Now it's take the vaccine that gives you the virus. Even though it's not FDA approved.

 
Loyal
The bottom line is... there hasn't been any noticeable increase of deaths the last two years.
That's just plain false. Check the graph in the link below. It shows the excess deaths from all causes in the US. You can also use the tab to check deaths in every other country.

 
Active
It is all so mixed up. This whole world is...I'm just going to have to pray about things. I really don't know what the truth is. But I know God is my healer and protector. I entrust my life/ family in His hands
 
Active
Confusion is not of God. Just too much of it these days. Too much "I'm right, they are not". Just everywhere. Only Truth that is important to agree on is Jesus Christ. So much distraction from Him
 
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