Is the bride of Christ Israel ?

[The Kreisel]

Hello @Dave M,

'The Bride, the Lamb's Wife' (Revelation 21:9-27) is the New Jerusalem.

This is the hope of those of like faith as that of Abraham, who, though having an inheritance already as the Father of Israel, through Isaac, in the land; nevertheless looked for a better resurrection; and 'a city which hath foundations whose builder and maker is God'. (Hebrews 11:8-10), which is obviously The New Jerusalem, which will come down, ultimately, out of heaven to the the new earth. That better resurrection is referred to in Revelation 20:5-6: which is one of two resurrections associated with the 1000 year reign of the 'overcomers' of the great tribulation who were faithful even unto death, who are seen first in Revelation 6:9-11; they will reign with Christ in the first 1000 years of His reign. The Overcomers of other generations, men and women of faith such as that described in Hebrews 11, I believe, also looked for this 'better' resurrection (Hebrews 11:35); for on those the second death has no power (Revelation 2:11 & Revelation 20:6). The second resurrection spoken of in Revelation 21, takes place at the end of the 1,000 year reign. The twelve disciples will sit with Christ too, and judge the twelve tribes of Israel, as will the believing remnant of Israel

* This calling of 'The Bride' is the reward of the Faithful of each generation of Israel, and those who shared like precious faith as Abraham, during the Acts period ('Jerusalem which is above' Galatians 4:26)). The resurrection of the Just looked for by the faithful in Israel.

* The Church being called out since the departure of Israel into unbelief at the end of the Acts period, is called the Church which is His Body, the Fulness of Him that filleth all in all. Which has a hope distinct from that of Israel, and the faithful of Israel, for their inheritance, with it's associated blessing will be enjoyed where Christ is, 'far above all' (Ephesians 4:10 & Ephesians 1:21)) in the Heavenlies, in Christ Jesus (Ephesians 1:3).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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The New Jerusalem are the Overcomers (Rev 3:12) - Hence, these are the Bride.
All christians are not 'Overcomers' - most are lukewarm; the Five Foolish Virgins, in the 'Wide Gate to Death' (Matthew 7:13).

 

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is not Israel that actually needs to be grafted back into the olive tree and not the church, making everyone one and the same. One flock under one shepherd

John 10:16
15. just as the Father knows Me and I know the Father. And I lay down My life for the sheep.
16. I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd.
17. The reason the Father loves Me is that I lay down My life in order to take it up again.…


what is the whole purpose of the God creation?? was it not to start the church and bring everyone under one shepherd the King Jesus. Salvation is not different for the Jews then the gentile.

I do not see the big distinction everyone makes, yet I can find many verse that say we are the same.

Hello @Dave M,

The Kingdom of God consists of different callings, for they serve God's plan and purpose in regard to the whole of His creation. The Heavens; Far above all Heavens; and The Earth.(1 Corinthians 12:5-6),. - 'Israel'; 'The Bride'; and 'The Church which is His Body.'

God is sovereign over all His creation , and Christ will reign until He has put all enemies under His feet (1 Corinthians 15:25), then God will be all in all (1Corinthians 15:28).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[The Kreisel]

Nope

Hello @Dave M,

The Kingdom of God consists of different callings, for they serve God's plan and purpose in regard to the whole of His creation. The Heavens; Far above all Heavens; and The Earth.(1 Corinthians 12:5-6),. - 'Israel'; 'The Bride'; and 'The Church which is His Body.'

God is sovereign over all His creation , and Christ will reign until He has put all enemies under His feet (1 Corinthians 15:25), then God will be all in all (1Corinthians 15:28).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Nope. The Bride comes out of the dead church - those that have Put on Immortality. The Bride of the Resurrection does not die, like all other mortals.

 

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Hello @Dave M,

'The Bride, the Lamb's Wife' (Revelation 21:9-27) is the New Jerusalem.

This is the hope of those of like faith as that of Abraham, who, though having an inheritance already as the Father of Israel, through Isaac, in the land; nevertheless looked for a better resurrection; and 'a city which hath foundations whose builder and maker is God'. (Hebrews 11:8-10), which is obviously The New Jerusalem, which will come down, ultimately, out of heaven to the the new earth. That better resurrection is referred to in Revelation 20:5-6: which is one of two resurrections associated with the 1000 year reign of the 'overcomers' of the great tribulation who were faithful even unto death, who are seen first in Revelation 6:9-11; they will reign with Christ in the first 1000 years of His reign. The Overcomers of other generations, men and women of faith such as that described in Hebrews 11, I believe, also looked for this 'better' resurrection (Hebrews 11:35); for on those the second death has no power (Revelation 2:11 & Revelation 20:6). The second resurrection spoken of in Revelation 21, takes place at the end of the 1,000 year reign. The twelve disciples will sit with Christ too, and judge the twelve tribes of Israel, as will the believing remnant of Israel

* This calling of 'The Bride' is the reward of the Faithful of each generation of Israel, and those who shared like precious faith as Abraham, during the Acts period ('Jerusalem which is above' Galatians 4:26)). The resurrection of the Just looked for by the faithful in Israel. ( Hebrews 12:22-23)

* The Church being called out since the departure of Israel into unbelief at the end of the Acts period, is called the Church which is His Body, the Fulness of Him that filleth all in all. Which has a hope distinct from that of Israel; and the faithful of Israel; for their inheritance, with it's associated 'spiritual' blessing.will be enjoyed where Christ is, 'far above all' (Ephesians 4:10 & Ephesians 1:21) in the Heavenlies, in Christ Jesus (Ephesians 1:3).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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Nope

Nope. The Bride comes out of the dead church - those that have Put on Immortality. The Bride of the Resurrection does not die, like all other mortals.

Hi @The Kreisel,

Scriptures please.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[The Kreisel]

Hi @The Kreisel,

Scriptures please.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

The entire New Testament.

 

[Reba1]

This thread brings Hebrews 12 to mind.

 

[The Kreisel]

This thread brings Hebrews 12 to mind.

It brings Galatians 4:30 to mind , speaking of geographical Israel:
Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.