The Ultimate Plan of God

[Born Again 2004]

Please, it is not Pride for me to presume what God does are doesn't do, because I don't! And, though I could, I am not using any supportive scripture for my premise. I have been a believer for a long time, have no chance of sliding backwards, I just have this concept ; you have the right to disagree and please do!

So here goes, it is very simple, quick and easy to follow, I don't to precieve to know how, I will leave that up to the Omnipotents, Omipresents and the Omniscients of God.
God's Ultimate Plan
Before ,"In The Beginning " during the foundation of the Universe, God knew He would have a hard time defeating a foe like Satin, so in His wisdom and because He loved us so much,
He devised a foolproof plan:
He came to earth as a man, He allowed Himself to die on a cross and take on the sins of the world. And, then most miraculously He arose again to give those who believe eternal life. Thus we get eternal life and the Devil is defeated for ever!

 

[Samson2020]

Please, it is not Pride for me to presume what God does are doesn't do, because I don't! And, though I could, I am not using any supportive scripture for my premise. I have been a believer for a long time, have no chance of sliding backwards, I just have this concept ; you have the right to disagree and please do!

So here goes, it is very simple, quick and easy to follow, I don't to precieve to know how, I will leave that up to the Omnipotents, Omipresents and the Omniscients of God.
God's Ultimate Plan
Before ,"In The Beginning " during the foundation of the Universe, God knew He would have a hard time defeating a foe like Satin, so in His wisdom and because He loved us so much,
He devised a foolproof plan:
He came to earth as a man, He allowed Himself to die on a cross and take on the sins of the world. And, then most miraculously He arose again to give those who believe eternal life. Thus we get eternal life and the Devil is defeated for ever!

Well first off God created Satan so he's not an enemy of God, he's our enemy. Satan is a created being made and fashioned by the Father to do the work he does.
Isaiah 54:16

Second it was God who raised Jesus from the dead Romans 10:9, Jesus died. God did not. Jesus is the Son, God is the Father of the Son, and God cannot die.

I do agree with two things. 1) He knew us before the world was created as we were with him at the time as we are part of him. Real tiny part. But yet Jesus refers
to us as mansions. "In my Fathers house there are many mansions." Thats us
2) Gods plan is indeed foolproof because he didn't leave it up to man or woman to accomplish it.
He is accomplishing his own will to bring eternal life to ALL eventually.

The Devil is indeed defeated but he is left to do his work so that the rest of us can overcome him and enter into our own reward as overcomers. Rev 3:21
Not about salvation as thats free, but position in the kingdom requires effort and a lot of it. He who would be greatest must be least and servant to all.
Mark 9:34-35

 

[Br. Bear]

Well first off God created Satan so he's not an enemy of God, he's our enemy. Satan is a created being made and fashioned by the Father to do the work he does.

can you please tell me where you read that? It is a pretty skimpy sort of statement and really does need some Scriptural backing.

God knew He would have a hard time defeating a foe like Satin

Likewise, please, Where did you read that and could you please add some Scriptural / Biblical backup?

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Bless you ....><>

 

[Samson2020]

can you please tell me where you read that? It is a pretty skimpy sort of statement and really does need some Scriptural backing.

Col 1:16 "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions, or principalities,
or powers: all things were created by him and for him."

Gen 3:1 " Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made......."

Hebrews 2:14 "...................him that had the power of death, that is, the devil."

Romans 13:1 "..................for there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God."

Isaiah 54:16 "Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work, and I have created the
waster to destroy."

 

[Born Again 2004]

can you please tell me where you read that? It is a pretty skimpy sort of statement and really does need some Scriptural backing.



Likewise, please, Where did you read that and could you please add some Scriptural / Biblical backup?

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thank you for sharing your thoughts and this devotional @Born Again 2004


Bless you ....><>

Like I said at the beginning, I was using no scripture.
Is God not Omniscient, do you not know what this means? How else could you define all knowing? Aren't we taught that Satin is the greatest of God's enemies? The Devil doesn't want anyone to be with God in Heaven, do I need scripture for that.
Did God not defeat Satin at the cross and his subsequent resurrection. Did He not know this from before the foundation ?
Pretty good ( foolproof) plan, no?

 

[Samson2020]

Aren't we taught that Satin is the greatest of God's enemies?

God does not have any enemies. There are enemies to the cross of Christ and enemies of ours but not God, as ALL THINGS were created by him and for him.
He created everything in order to accomplish his plan, and this includes Satan. Please read post #4 and tell me if you get anything from it.

 

[Born Again 2004]

God does not have any enemies. There are enemies to the cross of Christ and enemies of ours but not God, as ALL THINGS were created by him and for him.
He created everything in order to accomplish his plan, and this includes Satan. Please read post #4 and tell me if you get anything from it.

Ok , so Satan is not God's arc enemy, let's call the Devil in stark contrast to God and opponent to our salvation . Please disregard my entire Thread as not even plausible, it does not change one thing!

 

[Born Again 2004]

Ok , so Satan is not God's arc enemy, let's call the Devil in stark contrast to God and opponent to our salvation . Please disregard my entire Thread as not even plausible, it does not change one thing!

To all: I did not read or hear any of this. Like most humans, God gave me brain and some common sense...what I presented in the Thread was my opinion and nothing else. It seems plausible that only God could come up with a fool proof plan to Defeat the Devil and save those who believe. The Devil will still capture the Nonbelievers until he is thrown into Hell. Aside from heaven, the only upside I see in all of this, is we have nothing to fear ,much less from Satin as God provides a path for us to keep him under our heels! What do you say God's ultimate plan in all of this is ( from Genesis to Revelations)?

 

[Samson2020]

To all: I did not read or hear any of this. Like most humans, God gave me brain and some common sense...what I presented in the Thread was my opinion and nothing else. It seems plausible that only God could come up with a fool proof plan to Defeat the Devil and save those who believe. The Devil will still capture the Nonbelievers until he is thrown into Hell. Aside from heaven, the only upside I see in all of this, is we have nothing to fear ,much less from Satin as God provides a path for us to keep him under our heels! What do you say God's ultimate plan in all of this is ( from Genesis to Revelations)?

The creation of a new race of beings that God calls his sons. They are not angels. They are higher, as they possess the same properties as their Father and
older brother Jesus and will exist in an unfathomable love for one another and their Father for evermore.

I quote two verses

Rev 3:14 "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION
OF GOD"

If you will notice these are Jesus' words and he says specifically that he himself is the beginning of the creation of God. So what is the ending? It is simply all
will come to be sons of God spiritually begotten again by Holy Ghost baptism unto spiritual beings just like their older brother Jesus the Christ.

Rev 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ who is the faithful witness, and the FIRST BEGOTTEN OF THE DEAD, and the prince of the kings of the earth......"

So to keep it short I hope you see that as he was the first begotten of the dead and where he is now at the right hand of the Father as an overcomer, we are
to be in this same position as joint heirs (brothers) with the Lord Jesus and fully sons of God. He is the beginning of the creation which was the first begotten
from the dead and we are all to follow and when the last of us has been made alive and attained unto life eternal, death will have been destroyed, as it is the
last enemy of man to be destroyed.

The whole entire Bible is a love story of how God intends to take spirits from within himself and turn them into his own children through a learning experience
in good and evil so that when they are given life eternal they will never do or even think evil upon one another, but love one another as God and our Lord
Jesus Christ love us. Agape love one for all. An existence with the father whom we knew before we were put here but cannot remember for we were born
under the curse to live without the knowledge of our Father until he called us back into understanding what he said he would do before we were born as men
or women.
Jesus was the example of the completed work in one individual whom was preferred above all his fellow brethren by the Father. He says follow me, and what
did he become? A life giving Spirit. God even calls him God. "O God thy throne is forever." If you would have the same reward then follow him.

Most will not accept this as they are stuck in self righteousness and have things to overcome and thus are not allowed to see it but that doesn't make it untrue.

 

[Born Again 2004]

The creation of a new race of beings that God calls his sons. They are not angels. They are higher, as they possess the same properties as their Father and
older brother Jesus and will exist in an unfathomable love for one another and their Father for evermore.

I quote two verses

Rev 3:14 "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION
OF GOD"

If you will notice these are Jesus' words and he says specifically that he himself is the beginning of the creation of God. So what is the ending? It is simply all
will come to be sons of God spiritually begotten again by Holy Ghost baptism unto spiritual beings just like their older brother Jesus the Christ.

Rev 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ who is the faithful witness, and the FIRST BEGOTTEN OF THE DEAD, and the prince of the kings of the earth......"

So to keep it short I hope you see that as he was the first begotten of the dead and where he is now at the right hand of the Father as an overcomer, we are
to be in this same position as joint heirs (brothers) with the Lord Jesus and fully sons of God. He is the beginning of the creation which was the first begotten
from the dead and we are all to follow and when the last of us has been made alive and attained unto life eternal, death will have been destroyed, as it is the
last enemy of man to be destroyed.

The whole entire Bible is a love story of how God intends to take spirits from within himself and turn them into his own children through a learning experience
in good and evil so that when they are given life eternal they will never do or even think evil upon one another, but love one another as God and our Lord
Jesus Christ love us. Agape love one for all. An existence with the father whom we knew before we were put here but cannot remember for we were born
under the curse to live without the knowledge of our Father until he called us back into understanding what he said he would do before we were born as men
or women.
Jesus was the example of the completed work in one individual whom was preferred above all his fellow brethren by the Father. He says follow me, and what
did he become? A life giving Spirit. God even calls him God. "O God thy throne is forever." If you would have the same reward then follow him.

Most will not accept this as they are stuck in self righteousness and have things to overcome and thus are not allowed to see it but that doesn't make it untrue.

What is your point in all of this?! The only way to eternal life is still accepting Grace through Faith, accepting God's gift!

 

[Samson2020]

What do you say God's ultimate plan in all of this is ( from Genesis to Revelations)?

It was smply an answer to the question you asked. As short as I could make it and still get the point made. Guess your not ready for that good news yet.

 

[Born Again 2004]

It was smply an answer to the question you asked. As short as I could make it and still get the point made. Guess your not ready for that good news yet.

How do I get ready?

 

[Samson2020]

How do I get ready?

Keep studying to show yourself approved unto God. A workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Tim 2:15