The Trinity

[Samson2020]

Jehovah came to Israel and told them about His Father who sent Him.

How many times do you have to be shown that a mans disobedience brought in the condemnation and a MAN had to reverse the curse by fulfilling the LAW written for men not GOD.

You may need to see the ophthalmologist as your vision is severely impaired.

 

[David1954]

God caused the curse.

God cured it.

By submitting to being hanged on a tree.

 

[David1954]

Am I the only one who has read Ezekiel?

"Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak to thee."

 

[Samson2020]

God caused the curse.

God cured it.

By submitting to being hanged on a tree.

It was Adams disobedience that brought the curses of Eden from God. As it was a MAN that did this it was of necessity that a MAN exactly like Adam with the same non-carnal mind at his creation fulfill the Law and bring in the resurrection of life.

This is grade school stuff I really don't know why you are not getting it. How many times do we have to say GOD CANNOT DIE Jesus did. So GOD was not hanging on a tree
it was his SON.

"............Confess the Lord Jesus, and believe in thine heart that GOD hath RAISED him(JESUS) from the dead, thou shalt be saved." I guess since you don't believe that God Raised Jesus from the dead.....................I can see why you can't see anything else.

 

[David1954]

It was Adams disobedience that brought the curses of Eden from God. As it was a MAN that did this it was of necessity that a MAN exactly like Adam with the same non-carnal mind at his creation fulfill the Law and bring in the resurrection of life.

This is grade school stuff I really don't know why you are not getting it. How many times do we have to say GOD CANNOT DIE Jesus did. So GOD was not hanging on a tree
it was his SON.

"............Confess the Lord Jesus, and believe in thine heart that GOD hath RAISED him(JESUS) from the dead, thou shalt be saved." I guess since you don't believe that God Raised Jesus from the dead.....................I can see why you can't see anything else.

Nope. It was a set up.

 

[David1954]

God did it.

God fixed it.

For the elect.

 

[Samson2020]

God did it.

God fixed it.

For the elect.

We finally agree on something. It was Gods will all along that Adam should fail and why, we only disagree on whom he sent. Not to fix it but that in fulfilling the law became the first to be raised from the dead taking preeminence above ALL except his Father. And while were at it who are the elect?

 

[David1954]

We finally agree on something. It was Gods will all along that Adam should fail and why, we only disagree on whom he sent. Not to fix it but that in fulfilling the law became the first to be raised from the dead taking preeminence above ALL except his Father. And while were at it who are the elect?

He sent Jehovah. And the elect are those who inherit the promise.

 

[Samson2020]

Nope. It was a set up.

God did it.

God fixed it.

For the elect.

Well since it was a set up and God did it who is to blame?

 

[David1954]

Well since it was a set up and God did it who is to blame?

God.

 

[Samson2020]

Making fantastic progress. Now why did he cause Adam to fail?

 

[David1954]

Making fantastic progress. Now why did he cause Adam to fail?

For what happened when the Son of Man rescued us.

 

[David1954]

Everybody memorizes stagnant doctrines of a denomination.

Why did I not make that mistake?

 

[Samson2020]

Not the initial reason but part of it.

Genesis 3:22 "Then the LORD God said, "Behold the man has become like one of Us, to KNOW GOOD AND EVIL. And now lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and LIVE FOREVER............"

This sounds like God is surprised and needs to fix something but like you said it was a set up so that man would become LIKE God in knowing GOOD AND EVIL.
Man continued in that state for 4,000 years and died accordingly due to sin as the tree of life was off limits until JESUS showed up. So can we agree that God wanted man to become like him with this knowledge, Just not live forever yet?

 

[Samson2020]

And what man or woman does not have this knowledge?

 

[David1954]

And what man or woman does not have this knowledge?

Why do I find myself affectionate toward you, Sam?

Just read the Bible.

 

[Samson2020]

God.

For what happened when the Son of Man rescued us.

Everybody memorizes stagnant doctrines of a denomination.

Why did I not make that mistake?

I don't remember saying you were right. Only partially right. And why do you avoid the questions? Tired? Afraid? Don't know? And where do you think I get my instruction?

Son of man is a human by the way, not a God. So you said God caused it and a Man rescued us. In a strange way you are correct. God had a purpose to bring forth children just like him so the fall was necessary for ALL of us to know good and Evil. Then in comes the last Adam to bring eternal life to all who have become like God and know good and evil. But obviously more to the process than that.

 

[David1954]

This sounds like God is surprised and needs to fix something but like you said it was a set up so that man would become LIKE God in knowing GOOD AND EVIL.
Man continued in that state for 4,000 years and died accordingly due to sin as the tree of life was off limits until JESUS showed up. So can we agree that God wanted man to become like him with this knowledge, Just not live forever yet?

Yes. The fix was in. Alpha and omega. Blocked from the tree of life.

 

[David1954]

Making fantastic progress. Now why did he cause Adam to fail?

To bring about this present condition, of saints in the earth.

 

[David1954]

(You used the word "fail." I don't endorse it.)