@spiriteddove05 said in another thread ''so, by your own admission Judas Iscariot was a disciple of Jesus which is what a Christian is!! ''
No, a Christian is not a disciple as those at the time of Jesus were.
A Christian is referred to as a child of God 1 John 3:2 and as the bride of Christ 2 Cor 11:2. No disciple was called this.
Judas never entered eternal life. Nobody prior to the death of Jesus could / did. Jesus had to die before mankind could be reconciled with God. The wages if sin is death and Jesus had not yet paid the price for our salvation.
God could graft nobody into heaven / eternal life until Jesus was raised from the dead.
A Christian who is grafted into the vine of God's family tree is truly something special. To be grafted in one has to pass God's judgement of heart and mind Jer 17:9-11 when we sincerely repent Psalm 51:17.
It is not simply a case of ''being called for a purpose''. God used Pharaoh, the devil and many wicked for His purposes. Granted, Jesus chose the disciples and certainly had high hopes for them all. But they were not judged and chosen as Christians are.
The only disciple of the original twelve that stands out is Peter. He received a revelation of Jesus much like a Christian does in Matt 16:16-17. This shows that Jesus / God trusted Peter more then the other disciples. Peter, like David, Abraham and Elijah were judged by God and entrusted with revelations and truths that many others were simply not. Much like a Christian is. There is no divide between a Christian and God. God can pour as many revelations, visions, dreams and truths into the mind of a Christian as He wishes. This is why scripture clearly states Christians will reign with Jesus.
Jesus never said '''reign with me'' to the disciples. He does say this to Christians.
No, a Christian is not a disciple as those at the time of Jesus were.
A Christian is referred to as a child of God 1 John 3:2 and as the bride of Christ 2 Cor 11:2. No disciple was called this.
Judas never entered eternal life. Nobody prior to the death of Jesus could / did. Jesus had to die before mankind could be reconciled with God. The wages if sin is death and Jesus had not yet paid the price for our salvation.
God could graft nobody into heaven / eternal life until Jesus was raised from the dead.
A Christian who is grafted into the vine of God's family tree is truly something special. To be grafted in one has to pass God's judgement of heart and mind Jer 17:9-11 when we sincerely repent Psalm 51:17.
It is not simply a case of ''being called for a purpose''. God used Pharaoh, the devil and many wicked for His purposes. Granted, Jesus chose the disciples and certainly had high hopes for them all. But they were not judged and chosen as Christians are.
The only disciple of the original twelve that stands out is Peter. He received a revelation of Jesus much like a Christian does in Matt 16:16-17. This shows that Jesus / God trusted Peter more then the other disciples. Peter, like David, Abraham and Elijah were judged by God and entrusted with revelations and truths that many others were simply not. Much like a Christian is. There is no divide between a Christian and God. God can pour as many revelations, visions, dreams and truths into the mind of a Christian as He wishes. This is why scripture clearly states Christians will reign with Jesus.
Jesus never said '''reign with me'' to the disciples. He does say this to Christians.