Why did God Kill So Many Innocent People In The Book Of Joshua.

[Bendito]

I would add in one more way that the Giants in the Land came to be. The great flood which destroyed all land creatures save those in the ark, left some in the sea alive, although no doubt, it caused much death in the sea as well. The giants were created by manipulation of pregnancies that were instituted by the fallen angels, and according to the book of Giants and the book of Enoch, animals/beasts were also modified, and no doubt some sea creatures were modified in that. So some modified sea creatures or even mermaids were made, and that could have been the stock for futher manipulation that resulted in the giants in the Land in the book of Joshua.

This could be...Forgive my shortness.. I've been working all day and I'm no longer in my write mind. I wrote several chapters today.

 

[rag4aCrown]

He cleansed the earth of wickedness; and He is coming back with vengeance and wrath. God is the only one right and the only one good. Amen

Even David was ordained of God.

Everyone that has come to Him is thieves and robbers; some of us, from deep within our pits of hell, CRIED OUT Abba Father, with an earnest heart God hears us.

If I had not yielded to the love of the Father's call, the devil was given permission to consumed me. Standing at the crossroads of good and evil I made a choice.

Not one is innocent; we were all robbers and thrieves. Only one is righteous and only one forgives our sins.

Some do not understand "fear the Lord". When we step out of obedience, our time (of death) is always ready.

All praise glory and honor be unto God Amen

 

[Beameup]

The answer is in Genesis 6 if you can accept the facts.

 

[only son]

We notice that in the Bible there is an equation that simply equates the acts of the enemies of the Jews - as serving other gods.

The other gods allowed and condoned and expected murder and violence and destruction from their followers.

While obeying the simple LAW of not endangering innocent people and not murdering and spreading diseases and sickness and not burning your child in a fire to the other god
WAS SIMPLY following the RULES of the god of the Bible.

The fact is that Jesus and the prophets of Old Testament times lived at a time when many plagues, diseases, sicknesses, cancers, disorders, epidemics and incurable problems existed in the region for which there were no remedies and prescriptions. There were no cures, no treatment, no modern tools and medicines at the Time Of Bible Days. In the bible, they did not have medical treatments. Risky, knowing disease spreading and murdering behaving people had to be removed from society, especially if they were a danger to your family, sons and daughters and children and wives. There were risks of infection spreading to the food and water supplies. There were no hospitals, doctors or any antibacterial treatments. If the risky behaving people continue on and on to come near Your Family and city, endangering their lives! - You must take necessary action that prevents them from causing the disease to be spread to Your family and loved ones and also prevent the diseases from spreading to unsuspecting unknowing innocent children and other victims and families.

The prophets and wise, godly men found that the best way is to be safe.

Once You catch a Virus, Germ, Disease, Infection or anything - You are finished. You are { Done }. - Your family and all others who You come into contact with are also doomed to suffer a life of horrible agony, suffering, and horrible pain - dying slowly from a plague or a disease or a virus or symptom.

Many people disregard all of these facts. But in the Bible, there were no cures, nothing but a lifetime of suffering and agony, living in horrible pain.

It is easy to ignore the entire picture of the passages and the sequence of events and the whole situations and historical environmental realities and they retell the Old Testament stories and verses of The Bible, adding untruths about what they say while they greatly subtract many important details of the passages.

For eXample many people throw up alarms and great shock and hysterics about the stories of God commanding the Israelites to slaughter and kill whole cities of women and children. But never mention the fact that the Israelites had been in a war with these people and were surrounded and outnumbered by neighboring cities and civilizations who were terrorizing and attacking the Israelites, from the time of Abraham, down to King Saul here in Deu 25.

Deu 25:17 Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way, when ye were come forth out of Egypt; :18 How he met thee by the way and smote the hindmost of thee, even all that were feeble behind thee when thou wast faint and weary.

The Amalekites and other surrounding NATIONS were terrorists and here Deu 12 and 13 they also were at war with the Jews. The Deu 12 and 13 warns that the Jews Take heed and not be snared by following them because they commit every abomination to the LORD.

These abominations were committing BLOOD CRIMEs that were spreading sickness to innocent victims.

The entire book of Deuteronomy and Leviticus has explained every single one of the details of the violent, evil behaviors of the neighbors of the Israelites who were allied against Israel and attacking them ...... for even their sons and their daughters, they have burnt in the fire to their gods. .... Lev 18:3 ... ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, do not walk in their ordinances. - Lev 18:7 INCEST - causing blood problems. - Lev 18:20 Adultery - causing blood problems. - Lev 18:21 BURNING Children in a fire. - Lev 18:22 OTHER SEXUAL IMMORALITY male on male passions - causing blood problems. - Lev 18:23 BEASTALITY - causing blood problems.

Lev 18:25 And the land is defiled afflicted and infected.

So we have multiple cities of terrorists who are serving another god who commands and expects that they torture little children by killing and burning them in the fire to appease their gods. These people serving other gods do nothing but evil, violence and they defile, rape and terrorize everything around them - burning their little children in the fire, they are committing incest, bestiality, homosexuality and are filled with disease, danger, violence and terrorists whose entire cities are filled with people who are committed to destroying and raping and exterminating their neighbor. { Israel. }

If we look and see what The United States had to do when hit hard with massive attacks such as in WW ll - They would find that America killed millions of women and children far exceeding any women and children that the Israelites were also forced to kill. Many of us who are dishonest or ignorant about the Bible mentioning this fact, through inversion these facts are always left out when all of these verses are mentioned and people portray that the image that Israelites themselves were the terrorists and were serving a terrorist ideology and God.

When it is nothing but the total and complete opposite. The Amalekites and other evil cities were filled with disease, germs, sickness, bestiality, homosexuality, child / murder sacrifice by heat and fire to the other gods.
Their entire eXistance revolved around raising their own children to make eternal, perpetual never-ending war and an absolute violent terroristic extermination campaign upon the Israelites. Killing the women and children was the last resort and only solution that the Israelites had after 400 years of being attacked, terrorized, assailed and physically, violently assaulted by these Amalekites and their surrounding neighbors.

The Bible explains all that the Amalekites and their neighbors had done and who they were and why The Israelites were forced to completely end their reign of terror that had lasted for 500 years of nothing but attacks and violence upon the Israelites as these enemies determined to eXterminate them and destroy them. This defense was the only possible chance of survival that the Israelites had as they were surrounded and attacked from all sides and greatly, greatly outnumbered by the most violent, brutal, evil, perverted and cruel people that have ever been known to have existed.

The Bible clarifies how that the Israelites were attacked without mercy by all of their neighbors. We can also acknowledge that the Israelites were up against the entire forces of the Middle East and greatly, greatly massively outnumbered and surrounded, as they were attacked them from the rear and their weak and old and sick and their women and children were being slaughtered.

The war against entire cities whose children and populations and civilizations were raised, trained and programmed to do nothing but attack and kill the Israelites created no other choice but to survive and destroying entire cities women and children of their enemies was the only way to survive and for their own Israeli children to have a future. The Bible is very, very clear. Their NEIGHBORS / enemies outnumbered them and were determined to exterminating them. The only choice that the Israelites had was to eXterminate them before they themselves were exterminated.

The United States also, in its effort to survive and save the lives of Americans also was forced to bomb entire cities, killing millions of civilians.

I also believe that Islam as a religion is incapable of understanding or identifying with these facts because Muslims nor Mohammad are physical descendants of Abraham. But rather the descendants of all of the surrounding neighbors of the Israelites.
Whole cities whose inhabitants were spreading diseases, plagues, viruses and uncleanness and burning and torturing little children in the fire to serve a god
Whole cities whose inhabitants were into bestiality, incest and other dangerous acts of bloody violence whereby their entire existence revolved around exterminating and violently wiping out the Hebrew community with violence and bloodshed

The Bible places the Deuteronomy and Leviticus scriptures in this context, as the Scriptures details and explains the expectation of the god of the Bible and the expectation of the other gods and exactly why the Jews were not permitted to infect others with these diseases and murder and burn their children in fire and commit bestiality, incest, homosexuality and unclean unsanitary practices that were killing the servants of the other gods.

this was the only LAW / GOD that was allowed to be served. All actions that broke these laws were equated to serving another god that always allowed and promoted this behavior.

The law of Moses was about - Cleaning pots, pans, vessels, Washing, BATHING Every Single time after SEX, Washing after touching Dead People or animals. Keeping away from other people if You touch a Dead ROTTING Animal. Making sure to Mary a virgin or a widow. No sex with Animals. No gay sex.

'When any man has a discharge from his body, his discharge is unclean. And whoever touches his bed shall wash his clothes and bathe in water, Whoever sits on anything that is unclean shall wash his clothes and bathe in water, and bathe his body in running water ...................... 'If any man has an emission of semen, then he shall wash all his body in water, and be unclean until evening. And any garment and any leather on which there is semen, it shall be washed with water.

'If a woman has a discharge, and the discharge from her body is blood - everything that she sits on shall be unclean - the LAW was to --- ___ ** separate the children of Israel from their uncleanness, lest they die in their uncleanness. Don't Eat bats, Lions, Cats, Rats, Eel, stingray, and catfish fishes with no fins and scales) Snakes. Don't Eat Raw Blood.

the Point of punishment for BLOOD CRIMES> The law of Moses, Punished People for Committing BLOOD CRIMES against Others. Creating Diseases, Birth Defects, and Plagues. Today People Run Wild, INFECTING Millions.

God did not put up with this. the actors were punished and the Disease, infections, and Danger to Innocent Lives and People Following the LAW were safe. Water supplies, Food Supplies, and All Cooking and Daily Living was Safe. Today we have millions of innocent people with diseases and these BLOOD CRIMES are destroying humanity.

Today nearly 37 million people worldwide are living with HIV, approximately 1.8 million are innocent children. there are 23,000 to 46,000 children in the U.S. with Hepatitis C. In comparison, approximately four million American adults have the virus. In the days of the Old Testament, there were no cures, no treatment, and no medicine. Breaking the Bible morality standards are causing death, suffering, great pain and killing one another and innocent Children. The Bible shows how to live in a safe, clean healthy and family-oriented life - in BIBLICAL Days, Once You are Infected with a Disease - You are doomed to a Life of Horrible Suffering, pain, torment, agony, and Death. No CURES, no medical treatment, no treatment, and no painkillers.

 

[gaviria.christian]

Joshua 23:3 "And ye have seen all that the LORD your God hath done unto all these nations because of you; for the LORD your God is he that hath fought for you.
23:4 Behold, I have divided unto you by lot these nations that remain, to be an inheritance for your tribes, from Jordan, with all the nations that I have cut off, even unto the great sea westward.
23:5 And the LORD your God, he shall expel them from before you, and drive them from out of your sight; and ye shall possess their land, as the LORD your God hath promised unto you."

I have been an avid student of the Old Covenant (Testament) for years now. Each and every morning, I study several Chapters in the Old Covenant and in the New Covenant (Testament). I like a good understanding of both Covenants for a balanced view and understanding of what God has for me to understand and teach.

I have a Grandson named Chad. He is the Son of my only Son Skip. Skip and I have been praying and believing by faith that one day Chad will be saved. The title of this thread is his question to his Father and to me. So far, he says that he can't believe in a God that kills so many innocent people.

So, Lets talk about this very real difficulty that many more people than my Grandson have. I'm curious as to how you would answer the Question of the title of this thread? HAVE AT IT MY FELLOW THEOLOGIANS.

They were not "innocent". They were committing abominations, and it was for that reason they were driven out.

 

[A. Christian]

Joshua 23:3 "And ye have seen all that the LORD your God hath done unto all these nations because of you; for the LORD your God is he that hath fought for you.
23:4 Behold, I have divided unto you by lot these nations that remain, to be an inheritance for your tribes, from Jordan, with all the nations that I have cut off, even unto the great sea westward.
23:5 And the LORD your God, he shall expel them from before you, and drive them from out of your sight; and ye shall possess their land, as the LORD your God hath promised unto you."

I have been an avid student of the Old Covenant (Testament) for years now. Each and every morning, I study several Chapters in the Old Covenant and in the New Covenant (Testament). I like a good understanding of both Covenants for a balanced view and understanding of what God has for me to understand and teach.

I have a Grandson named Chad. He is the Son of my only Son Skip. Skip and I have been praying and believing by faith that one day Chad will be saved. The title of this thread is his question to his Father and to me. So far, he says that he can't believe in a God that kills so many innocent people.

So, Lets talk about this very real difficulty that many more people than my Grandson have. I'm curious as to how you would answer the Question of the title of this thread? HAVE AT IT MY FELLOW THEOLOGIANS.

Sometimes I wonder whether or not the reason for killing them was because they were evil. I mean they were but maybe God told the Israelites to kill even the children for another reason.

The bible says that basically angels had sex with women and produced giant offspring. This happened both before and after the flood. This would have corrupted the genetic information of the human race. As we see in numbers there were entire families and cities of giants.
We can't know the full extent of what these people were like. We know that they were strong and evil. We know that there was no resurrection for them. This speaks to them missing something vital by not being purely human, maybe they had no eternal spirit?

The problem is that if left to reproduce they would continue to produce more corrupted offspring and eventually the entire human race would have become corrupted like this. In order to redeem mankind Jesus had to come as a man as the seed of a woman, uncorrupted. That is why the genealogy of Jesus is so important.

I see the angels mating with women to create these offsprings as an attack against the human bloodline to prevent the savior. I also see the killing of these giants as necessary for protection of the bloodline and I see the flood of Noah as another genetic cleansing. I believe that the reason for all three of Noah's sons to be spared, though some showed wickedness, was because their genes were pure.

It was not until the reign of David that the last giants were wiped out.

But that is just my opinion.

 

[Sue D.]

Isn't it Also true that parents who commit abominations will raise their children the same way? And when entire nations are doing that -- the next generation of children will be the same way. So entire generations have to be killed. It sounds bad, but that extend of wicked had to be taken care of.

Actually -- Noah and his family were the only righteous people left -- That is why they were spared.

 

[Brad Huber]

The blood children of the giants in Israel's time were in the lineage of the giant sea creatures who were not killed in the great flood. Most children of the fallen angels were land creatures, where God's new human creations could be dominated. The seas were a lesser desire for the children of fallen angels to dominate, but wanting to dominate the whole planet eventually, some cross breeding was done in the seas as well. Then after the flood, breeding was done to eventually bring land creatures and even humans back into the fallen angelic plan through the sea creatures that survived. They focused a lot of their efforts to re-dominate the land that they knew was to be given to God's chosen people which was Israel, to thwart the plans of God and His holy people. God overcame these giants in Israel, through His chosen people to give them courage that most were lacking.

And before anyone asks, this is not from scripture. Some can be found in the book of Giants and the book of Enoch which were found amoung the dead sea scrolls. If you chose to not believe it, thats up to you, but it does answer many questions and histories that dont easily line up otherwise.

 

[A. Christian]

Isn't it Also true that parents who commit abominations will raise their children the same way? And when entire nations are doing that -- the next generation of children will be the same way. So entire generations have to be killed. It sounds bad, but that extend of wicked had to be taken care of.

Actually -- Noah and his family were the only righteous people left -- That is why they were spared.

Im not saying noah wasnt righteous. The bible definitely says that he was. But unless I'm mistaken it says nothing about his sons or daughter in laws being righteous. Also looking at Ham I wouldn't call him righteous. But he was spared.

 

[A. Christian]

The blood children of the giants in Israel's time were in the lineage of the giant sea creatures who were not killed in the great flood. Most children of the fallen angels were land creatures, where God's new human creations could be dominated. The seas were a lesser desire for the children of fallen angels to dominate, but wanting to dominate the whole planet eventually, some cross breeding was done in the seas as well. Then after the flood, breeding was done to eventually bring land creatures and even humans back into the fallen angelic plan through the sea creatures that survived. They focused a lot of their efforts to re-dominate the land that they knew was to be given to God's chosen people which was Israel, to thwart the plans of God and His holy people. God overcame these giants in Israel, through His chosen people to give them courage that most were lacking.

And before anyone asks, this is not from scripture. Some can be found in the book of Giants and the book of Enoch which were found amoung the dead sea scrolls. If you chose to not believe it, thats up to you, but it does answer many questions and histories that dont easily line up otherwise.

I have read the book of enoch and find that it is contradictory to scripture. But this is going beyond the op. If you want to create a new thread or pm me I'd love to discuss this some more

 

[Brad Huber]

I have read the book of enoch and find that it is contradictory to scripture. But this is going beyond the op. If you want to create a new thread or pm me I'd love to discuss this some more

If you want to call it contradictory, perhaps you can tell me why you think so in the thread of your choosing.

 

[A. Christian]

If you want to call it contradictory, perhaps you can tell me why you think so in the thread of your choosing.

I have started a new thread called the book of enoch. Please stop by there.