• Hi Guest!

    Please share Talk Jesus community on every platform you have to give conservatives an outlet and safe community to be apart of.

    Support This Community

    Thank You

  • Welcome to Talk Jesus

    A true bible based, Jesus centered online community. Join over 12,500 members today

    Register Log In

Loyal
Sunday, April 9, 2017, 8:23 a.m. – The Lord Jesus put in mind the song “Unless You Are Born Again.” Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Zechariah 3 (NASB).

Remove Filthy Garments (vv. 1-5)

Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him. The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! Indeed, the Lord who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?” Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments and standing before the angel. He spoke and said to those who were standing before him, saying, “Remove the filthy garments from him.” Again he said to him, “See, I have taken your iniquity away from you and will clothe you with festal robes.” Then I said, “Let them put a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him with garments, while the angel of the Lord was standing by.

Under the Old Covenant relationship which God had with his people, the high priest is the one who entered the temple of God, and into the Holy of Holies once a year to make atonement, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He was the people’s representative to God for the salvation of their sins. Then, in the New Testament we read about God the Father sending his Son Jesus Christ to the earth to take on human flesh, and to die on a cross to take away the sins of the world. He who knew no sin became sin for us, so that we might become the righteousness of God (2 Co. 5:21). He took our place in taking upon himself the punishment of our sins so that we could be set free from slavery to sin and live to his righteousness.

Because Jesus died for our sins, and because he was resurrected back to life, thus, through God-given faith in him, we can now be crucified with Christ in death to sin and be resurrected with Christ to newness of life, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. We can have our sins removed from our lives, like the removing of these filthy clothes, and we can be given clean clothes to wear, representing Christ’s righteousness, which is what we put on, and which is credited to our account when we believe in Jesus. We can also be given a clean headdress to wear, representing the renewing of our minds, which is the working of the Spirit of God in our hearts and lives, as we submit to the working of his grace in our lives in transforming us away from lifestyles of sin to walking in the Spirit and no longer by the flesh.

This is what it means to be “born again.” It means that we die with Christ to sin so that we might live with Christ to righteousness. It means we now walk according to the Spirit, and no longer according to the flesh. And, it means we are no longer conformed to the ways (patterns) of this sinful world, but that we are transformed in the renewing of our minds by the Spirit of God. All this is the working of the Spirit of God in our lives when we trust in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of our lives, but we have to cooperate with the Holy Spirit by submitting our lives to Christ and to his cross. But, it does not mean we will never sin again, but if we do sin, and Satan accuses us, Jesus is our defense, because he paid the price for our sins (See: Ro. 6:1-23; Ro. 8:1-14; Ro. 12:1-2; Eph. 2:8-10; Eph. 4:17-24; 1 Jn. 1:5-2:2; Gal. 2:20).

Walk in His Ways (vv. 6-7)

And the angel of the Lord admonished Joshua, saying, “Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘If you will walk in My ways and if you will perform My service, then you will also govern My house and also have charge of My courts, and I will grant you free access among these who are standing here.

When we trust in Jesus Christ to be Lord (owner-master) and Savior of our lives, it doesn’t end there. We aren’t saved (past) and then we live our lives, and then we go to heaven when we leave this earth. Jesus did not die on the cross to take away the sins of the world just so we could escape the ultimate punishment of sin (eternal damnation) and just so we could be with him forever when we die. He died that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; that we might no longer live for ourselves, but for him who gave his life up for us; and that we might walk no longer according to the flesh but according to the Spirit (1 Pet. 2:24; 2 Co. 5:15; Ro. 8:1-14).

Jesus said that if we hold on to our old lives (of living for sin and self), we will lose them for eternity (die in our sins), but if we lose our lives (die with him to sin), we will gain eternal life with God. Paul reiterated these words when he said that if we walk (in lifestyle) according to the flesh, we will die (in our sins), but if by the Spirit we are putting to death the deeds of the flesh, we will live (with Christ for eternity). And, John said that if we say we have fellowship with God, but we walk (in lifestyle) in darkness (sin), we do not live by the truth (Lu. 9:23-25; Ro. 8:1-14; 1 Jn. 1:6).

John also said that we know that we have come to know God if we keep his commands (1 Jn. 2:3-6). He also said, “And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love” (2 Jn. 1:6). And, he said: “No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God” (1 Jn. 3:9). In Hebrews we read: “If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.” (Heb. 10:26-27).

When Jesus called Paul (then Saul) to the ministry of the gospel, he commissioned him to open the eyes of the blind, to turn them from darkness (sin, wickedness, lies of Satan) to light (Jesus, righteousness, truth), and from the power of Satan to God, that they might receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in Jesus Christ (Acts 26:16-18). This is the essence of the gospel of our salvation. This is what it means to be born again, or born from above, or born of the Spirit. Yet, it is not what many are preaching today at all. Many are preaching that all you have to do is repeat some words after someone in a prayer and you are now saved, you are part of the family of God, and heaven is guaranteed you.

Yet, we must not pull only a select few scriptures out of context to make them say what we want to believe, but we must read scriptures in their context and in the context of all the teachings on salvation and forgiveness of sins to truly understand that a saved life is a life transformed of the Spirit of God out of a lifestyle of walking according to the flesh and into a lifestyle given over to Christ and to his holiness and righteousness. God’s grace is not a free license to continue in sin without guilt and without remorse. His grace, which brings salvation, teaches us to say “NO!” to ungodliness and worldly passions and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives while we wait for Christ’s return (Tit. 2:11-14). So, surrender your all to him today!

The Branch (vv. 8-10)

Now listen, Joshua the high priest, you and your friends who are sitting in front of you—indeed they are men who are a symbol, for behold, I am going to bring in My servant the Branch. For behold, the stone that I have set before Joshua; on one stone are seven eyes. Behold, I will engrave an inscription on it,’ declares the Lord of hosts, ‘and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day. ‘In that day,’ declares the Lord of hosts, ‘every one of you will invite his neighbor to sit under his vine and under his fig tree.’”

This was a prophecy concerning the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Through his death on a cross, in one day, he put sin to death, and our sin was buried with him, too. When he was resurrected from the dead, he rose victorious over sin, hell, death and Satan on our behalf. By his stripes we are healed!

Jesus Christ, through his death, tore in half the veil that stood between us and God’s holy presence, and he made the way possible for every one of us to be reconciled to God. Through faith in Jesus Christ the Holy Spirit of God has now come to live within each one of us who have trusted in him, so that we can enter into God’s holy presence 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

And, through Jesus’ death and resurrection, the way to God was opened to all people of all nations so that we can now share his gospel with the people of the whole world. This is one of the reasons we are here, and it is what we should all be doing, because many people do not know Jesus, and they need to be told about him so that they can have the opportunity to believe in him.

Unless You Are Born Again
An Original Work / November 3, 2013

Based off John 3:1-21

Nicodemus came to Jesus.
He acknowledged God was with Him.
Jesus said, “You can’t see heaven
Unless you are born again.”

“How can a man be born when he’s old?
Can he enter into his mother’s womb?”
Jesus answered, “Flesh is flesh,
So of the Spirit, you must be.”

Jesus said to Nicodemus,
“You’re a teacher, and yet you don’t
Understand of what I tell you,
Because you will not believe.

“For God so loved the world that He gave
His one and His only Son for your sin.
So, whoever believes in Him
Has eternal life in heav’n.

“Light has come into the world,
But human beings love the darkness,
Because their deeds are so evil,
So in truth, they stand condemned.

“Everyone who practices evil
Fears that the Light will expose his sin.
Yet, whoever lives his life by the Light
Does so through his God.”

 
Member
Sunday, April 9, 2017, 8:23 a.m. – The Lord Jesus put in mind the song “Unless You Are Born Again.” Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Zechariah 3 (NASB).

Remove Filthy Garments (vv. 1-5)

Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him. The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! Indeed, the Lord who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?” Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments and standing before the angel. He spoke and said to those who were standing before him, saying, “Remove the filthy garments from him.” Again he said to him, “See, I have taken your iniquity away from you and will clothe you with festal robes.” Then I said, “Let them put a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him with garments, while the angel of the Lord was standing by.

Under the Old Covenant relationship which God had with his people, the high priest is the one who entered the temple of God, and into the Holy of Holies once a year to make atonement, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He was the people’s representative to God for the salvation of their sins. Then, in the New Testament we read about God the Father sending his Son Jesus Christ to the earth to take on human flesh, and to die on a cross to take away the sins of the world. He who knew no sin became sin for us, so that we might become the righteousness of God (2 Co. 5:21). He took our place in taking upon himself the punishment of our sins so that we could be set free from slavery to sin and live to his righteousness.

Because Jesus died for our sins, and because he was resurrected back to life, thus, through God-given faith in him, we can now be crucified with Christ in death to sin and be resurrected with Christ to newness of life, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. We can have our sins removed from our lives, like the removing of these filthy clothes, and we can be given clean clothes to wear, representing Christ’s righteousness, which is what we put on, and which is credited to our account when we believe in Jesus. We can also be given a clean headdress to wear, representing the renewing of our minds, which is the working of the Spirit of God in our hearts and lives, as we submit to the working of his grace in our lives in transforming us away from lifestyles of sin to walking in the Spirit and no longer by the flesh.

This is what it means to be “born again.” It means that we die with Christ to sin so that we might live with Christ to righteousness. It means we now walk according to the Spirit, and no longer according to the flesh. And, it means we are no longer conformed to the ways (patterns) of this sinful world, but that we are transformed in the renewing of our minds by the Spirit of God. All this is the working of the Spirit of God in our lives when we trust in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of our lives, but we have to cooperate with the Holy Spirit by submitting our lives to Christ and to his cross. But, it does not mean we will never sin again, but if we do sin, and Satan accuses us, Jesus is our defense, because he paid the price for our sins (See: Ro. 6:1-23; Ro. 8:1-14; Ro. 12:1-2; Eph. 2:8-10; Eph. 4:17-24; 1 Jn. 1:5-2:2; Gal. 2:20).

Walk in His Ways (vv. 6-7)

And the angel of the Lord admonished Joshua, saying, “Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘If you will walk in My ways and if you will perform My service, then you will also govern My house and also have charge of My courts, and I will grant you free access among these who are standing here.

When we trust in Jesus Christ to be Lord (owner-master) and Savior of our lives, it doesn’t end there. We aren’t saved (past) and then we live our lives, and then we go to heaven when we leave this earth. Jesus did not die on the cross to take away the sins of the world just so we could escape the ultimate punishment of sin (eternal damnation) and just so we could be with him forever when we die. He died that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; that we might no longer live for ourselves, but for him who gave his life up for us; and that we might walk no longer according to the flesh but according to the Spirit (1 Pet. 2:24; 2 Co. 5:15; Ro. 8:1-14).

Jesus said that if we hold on to our old lives (of living for sin and self), we will lose them for eternity (die in our sins), but if we lose our lives (die with him to sin), we will gain eternal life with God. Paul reiterated these words when he said that if we walk (in lifestyle) according to the flesh, we will die (in our sins), but if by the Spirit we are putting to death the deeds of the flesh, we will live (with Christ for eternity). And, John said that if we say we have fellowship with God, but we walk (in lifestyle) in darkness (sin), we do not live by the truth (Lu. 9:23-25; Ro. 8:1-14; 1 Jn. 1:6).

John also said that we know that we have come to know God if we keep his commands (1 Jn. 2:3-6). He also said, “And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love” (2 Jn. 1:6). And, he said: “No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God” (1 Jn. 3:9). In Hebrews we read: “If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.” (Heb. 10:26-27).

When Jesus called Paul (then Saul) to the ministry of the gospel, he commissioned him to open the eyes of the blind, to turn them from darkness (sin, wickedness, lies of Satan) to light (Jesus, righteousness, truth), and from the power of Satan to God, that they might receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in Jesus Christ (Acts 26:16-18). This is the essence of the gospel of our salvation. This is what it means to be born again, or born from above, or born of the Spirit. Yet, it is not what many are preaching today at all. Many are preaching that all you have to do is repeat some words after someone in a prayer and you are now saved, you are part of the family of God, and heaven is guaranteed you.

Yet, we must not pull only a select few scriptures out of context to make them say what we want to believe, but we must read scriptures in their context and in the context of all the teachings on salvation and forgiveness of sins to truly understand that a saved life is a life transformed of the Spirit of God out of a lifestyle of walking according to the flesh and into a lifestyle given over to Christ and to his holiness and righteousness. God’s grace is not a free license to continue in sin without guilt and without remorse. His grace, which brings salvation, teaches us to say “NO!” to ungodliness and worldly passions and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives while we wait for Christ’s return (Tit. 2:11-14). So, surrender your all to him today!

The Branch (vv. 8-10)

Now listen, Joshua the high priest, you and your friends who are sitting in front of you—indeed they are men who are a symbol, for behold, I am going to bring in My servant the Branch. For behold, the stone that I have set before Joshua; on one stone are seven eyes. Behold, I will engrave an inscription on it,’ declares the Lord of hosts, ‘and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day. ‘In that day,’ declares the Lord of hosts, ‘every one of you will invite his neighbor to sit under his vine and under his fig tree.’”

This was a prophecy concerning the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Through his death on a cross, in one day, he put sin to death, and our sin was buried with him, too. When he was resurrected from the dead, he rose victorious over sin, hell, death and Satan on our behalf. By his stripes we are healed!

Jesus Christ, through his death, tore in half the veil that stood between us and God’s holy presence, and he made the way possible for every one of us to be reconciled to God. Through faith in Jesus Christ the Holy Spirit of God has now come to live within each one of us who have trusted in him, so that we can enter into God’s holy presence 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

And, through Jesus’ death and resurrection, the way to God was opened to all people of all nations so that we can now share his gospel with the people of the whole world. This is one of the reasons we are here, and it is what we should all be doing, because many people do not know Jesus, and they need to be told about him so that they can have the opportunity to believe in him.

Unless You Are Born Again
An Original Work / November 3, 2013

Based off John 3:1-21

Nicodemus came to Jesus.
He acknowledged God was with Him.
Jesus said, “You can’t see heaven
Unless you are born again.”

“How can a man be born when he’s old?
Can he enter into his mother’s womb?”
Jesus answered, “Flesh is flesh,
So of the Spirit, you must be.”

Jesus said to Nicodemus,
“You’re a teacher, and yet you don’t
Understand of what I tell you,
Because you will not believe.

“For God so loved the world that He gave
His one and His only Son for your sin.
So, whoever believes in Him
Has eternal life in heav’n.

“Light has come into the world,
But human beings love the darkness,
Because their deeds are so evil,
So in truth, they stand condemned.

“Everyone who practices evil
Fears that the Light will expose his sin.
Yet, whoever lives his life by the Light
Does so through his God.”


If it's true that a sacrifice of an individual FORMED human being is needed for the sins of other individual human beings, then these scriptures are nothing but lies;

2 Kings 14:6
But the sons of the slayers he did not put to death, according to what is written in the book of the Law of Moses, as the LORD commanded, saying, "The fathers shall not be put to death for the sons, nor the sons be put to death for the fathers; but each shall be put to death for his own sin."

Ezekiel 18:4
"Behold, all souls are Mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is Mine. The soul who sins will die.

Ezekiel 18:20
"The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.

Galations 6: 5
For every man shall bear his own burden.

Man was created in the image of God so there's no need for any sacrifice for man. All human beings perish because they cannot keep themselves alive without the breath of life, known as the Word of God.

John 1
1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2: He was in the beginning with God;
3: all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.
4: In him was life, and the life was the light of men.

Without the Word of God ( breath of life ) we wouldn't exist.
 
Moderator
Staff Member
If it's true that a sacrifice of an individual FORMED human being is needed for the sins of other individual human beings, then these scriptures are nothing but lies;

For I seek only clarity to what you have posted so that we don't have a misunderstanding brother.
Question: Are you saying that Jesus Christ did not die for our sins?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
<><
 
Member
For I seek only clarity to what you have posted so that we don't have a misunderstanding brother.
Question: Are you saying that Jesus Christ did not die for our sins?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
<><

The name "Jesus Christ" is a symbolic name that means the same exact thing as the Word of God. Everything we experience was created in the Word of God, visible and invisible so "Jesus" means the visible images we observe and "Christ" means the pure thoughts of God without the Devil and the beast. So those of us servants who were used to testify to Christ during this millennium reign of Christ learned what the invisible source of life is called the Tree of Life.

Jesus was the name of the very first servant who testified to Christ and learned that we came from an invisible realm called the spirit of God. He learned that man was created in the image of God and this is the Word of God. All the servants who came after Jesus also testified to Christ during the first witness of millennium reign of Christ until they were all killed. This ended the first witness before the Roman Emperor Constantine came into power. He was the one who announced the Christianity was the main religion of the Roman Empire, yet all the servants ( saints ) of God used in the first witness of the reign of Christ were killed by the Roman government.

During the first witness of the gospel of God, which is the voice of God that we servants preach to His chosen disciples who then also get to hear His voice, the jealous Jews reported them to the Roman government for "blaspheme" of the god of Abraham. The Roman guards arrested God's servants, tried them in court and then beheaded them.

There was a 1700 year break between the first witness of the gospel to the second witness in which I was the servant who was used by God to testify to everything that the former servants testified to in Christ but also the latest details that God needed to understand exactly how we were created in the Tree of Life.

During the 1700 years, the beast that is used to teach human beings how to build false gods with their human hands began building the modern technologies that were needed to learn how we're created. Jesus and the other servants of the first witness didn't have the modern computer technology available to them so look at and personally use so that they could understand how the voice of God that they hear in their minds could be possible. They all learned that God was totally invisible and that man was created in that invisible image so that they could say, "I and our Father are one" but they didn't know exactly what that meant.

Now that we have computer technology with voice recognition software with artificial intelligence systems that we can talk to and it will speak back to us, then this prophecy in Revelation can be understood today.

Revelation 13
4: Men worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?"
5: And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months;
6: it opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven.
7: Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation,
8: and all who dwell on earth will worship it, every one whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain.
9: If any one has an ear, let him hear:
10: If any one is to be taken captive, to captivity he goes; if any one slays with the sword, with the sword must he be slain. Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.
11: Then I saw another beast which rose out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon.
12: It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed.
13: It works great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in the sight of men;
14: and by the signs which it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, bidding them make an image for the beast which was wounded by the sword and yet lived;
15: and it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast should even speak, and to cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.
16: Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead,
17: so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.
18: This calls for wisdom: let him who has understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number, its number is six hundred and sixty-six.

Once I knew that the voice of God that I've known for over 37 years is very similar to the computer voices we hear today in our computers with an artificial intelligence that gives the voice all kinds of knowledge to speak, then I instantly knew who I was in God.

If Jesus, Peter, Timothy, John, Paul and the other servants of God were alive today, they would all understand how they were created in the Tree of Life in a system built with the voice of our Creator.

Psalm 33
8: Let all the earth fear the LORD, let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him!
9: For he spoke, and it came to be; he commanded, and it stood forth.

We are nothing but the thoughts of our Creator spoken into some type of computer simulation system that contains an artificial intelligence source with a voice that all the prophets and us saints who testified to the knowledge called Christ have heard speaking commands directly into our minds.

So you see how important the beast of Daniel and Revelation was in order to understand how we're created.

We never had anything to worry about because of the visible world and our flesh that we thought was our true reality. Jesus knew his body and everything he saw was only an illusion but there's no way he could explain that to any of God's chosen believers other than by using analogies called parables at that time.

God has me use many analogies such as the Sims simulation game and other virtual world games that we play on the internet today to help me understand how we were created.

None of us prophets or saints used by our Creator to testify to Christ were used as a sacrifice for the sins of human beings. We all were killed by religious people who were jealous of the knowledge of Christ that we testified to. They didn't understand what the beast was or how all the false gods will be destroyed on the day of the Lord. They thought all their church buildings were build for their God to worship him in but they are nothing but false gods. God had to use the beast to refine the building techniques of human beings until the modern computer technology, simulation games and AI and Voice systems were in place to finish revealing what the Tree of Life is and how it was created by our unknown Creator or Creators. Our Creator is outside the system but with the AI and Voice system in place that converts the thoughts of our Creator into what we observe as life, we don't have any choices. We simply exist because we were designed by a Creator to be who we are and experience life the way it was planned.

So those of you who think you need to make a decision to be saved by the blood of Jesus have been lied to by Satan and those who worship the beast.

Here's a writing that God had me write recently that explains the beast better and what the antichrist is. If you were chosen by God to believe this knowledge of Christ, then you will learn how you were created in God as the Word of God, an AI and Voice system that gives us life. What is the Beast and the Antichrist?

I have a lot more knowledge of Christ to share with you if you're chosen to understand it.

God bless you for eternity,
jcforever
 
Moderator
Staff Member
After reading everything that you have written I've come up with another question. However, I'm still waiting for the answer to my previous question, which I will repeat here.

Question: Are you saying that Jesus Christ did not die for our sins?

Jesus and the other servants of the first witness didn't have the modern computer technology available to them so look at and personally use so that they could understand how the voice of God that they hear in their minds could be possible.

They all learned that God was totally invisible and that man was created in that invisible image so that they could say, "I and our Father are one" but they didn't know exactly what that meant.

If Jesus, Peter, Timothy, John, Paul and the other servants of God were alive today, they would all understand how they were created in the Tree of Life in a system built with the voice of our Creator.

So, Jesus is not the Incarnate God/Creator, but a creation as you and I?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
<><
 
Member
After reading everything that you have written I've come up with another question. However, I'm still waiting for the answer to my previous question, which I will repeat here.

Question: Are you saying that Jesus Christ did not die for our sins?







So, Jesus is not the Incarnate God/Creator, but a creation as you and I?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
<><

There is no person named Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is a symbolic name that means the same exact thing as the symbolic name "Word of God". The name "Jesus" is a translated name of the first servant who testified to the knowledge of God called Christ. Christ is the pure thoughts of God that are converted into eternal life for all created men. All of us servants tho testified to this "Christ" learn all about the beast and how it was used to teach human beings how to build things ( false gods ) with their human hands. Our testimonies also reveal what the "day of the Lord" is and what happens on that day. We also learn from our testimonies of Christ how we'll experience life after the day of the Lord called the new heaven and earth.

So "Christ" is not the name of one person.

Most of the prophets, Jesus and the rest of us servants are nothing but the flesh of this world that are used to testify to the knowledge of Christ. The flesh perishes because they are not our true reality. We created men will get new bodies when we wake up on a new earth.

It was Satan and the beast that was used to establish religions from the building of false gods with human hands. Judaism, Christianity, Islam and the rest of the millions of religions that have been formed on earth have nothing to do with revealing the Truth. All the traditions and doctrines of these religions are for the entertainment of human beings while they were used to carry the prophecies from one generation of families to the next until each servant of God received those prophecies. The prophecies are needed by God to prove to us servants that our testimonies are accurate and true. This gives us a lot of confidence and trust knowing that each word we write and speak for God are true.

Everything that Christians have learned since the first false prophets started stealing the words from God's servants is a lie. All of Christianity is a religion divided into two groups called the "feet of iron and clay" in this following prophecy. The "iron" part of the feet represent the Catholic church and the governing body called the "papal" or as we know it, the Vatican.This is the first group of religious people who kept some of the Jewish traditions and adopted old Babylonian pagan doctrines along with new traditions and doctrines such as the "Eucharist". A thousand years later, the "feet of clay" was established in the Protestant denominations. It's called "clay" because the Protestants were broken up into thousands of different denomination. The "feet of iron" Catholic church has remained solid as a group because of the Vatican which applies all the laws for them to abide by that are contrary to the "Law of God" that us servants of God testify to. The Law of God is "Christ", the pure thoughts of our Creator that will continue on forever after the day of the Lord destroys everything on earth. Here is the prophecy about the "feet of iron and clay" which represents Christianity as a religion. The fourth kingdom is the Roman Empire that came after the Greek Empire, Persian-Medes and Babylonian empires called the Gold, Silver, Bronze and Iron in this prophecy;

Daniel 2:
36: "This was the dream; now we will tell the king its interpretation.
37: You, O king, the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, and the might, and the glory,
38: and into whose hand he has given, wherever they dwell, the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the air, making you rule over them all -- you are the head of gold.
39: After you shall arise another kingdom inferior to you, and yet a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
40: And there shall be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, because iron breaks to pieces and shatters all things; and like iron which crushes, it shall break and crush all these.
41: And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the miry clay.
42: And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43: As you saw the iron mixed with miry clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay.
44: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
45: just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be hereafter. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure."

As you can see, the Word of God, the invisible spiritual Kingdom of God that will never be destroyed will destroy all the earthly kingdoms that are visible to created men in the image of God.

The reason Jesus said this, "I and the Father are one" is because he finally learned his true created existence as a man created in the image of God. There is no difference between man and God. They are ONE thing called an AI and Voice system built into a computer generated simulation.

We are not real people living on a real earth. We're all experiencing life because of our Creator ( master programmer ) has spoken his thoughts into a simulation program with an AI and Voice system.

So Jesus, all the prophets and the rest of us visible servants are only formed illusions within each individual mind that came from the thoughts of our Creator. We are not made of material things and our Creator has used the beast to discover through science that the once believed material world is not made of material ( matter ) at all. Quantum mechanics is proving to human beings that what we think we observe as big images are actually formed from invisible waves. Those invisible waves are the computing language of our Creator called the word of the Lord. He spoke everything we experience into existence.

So "Jesus" is not a savior of anything. He was just a formed image of a visible human being in the minds of men that was used to write and speak each word formed in his mind via the programmed thoughts of our Creator, the Father of all things. The images ( human beings ) called the servants of God, or prophets, apostles and saints, are not real people. None of the visible human beings are real people made of material things. We all perish because we're not real. What is real is our Creator who spoke His thoughts into a creation that we now know is a virtual reality program with an AI and Voice system called God. All created men with a mind are connected to that AI and Voice system so in the next generation called the new heaven and earth, all created men will hear the Voice of the Lord and be taught a new language directly in the mind of each man made both male and female. Each created man will wake up on a new earth with two bodies. One body will be a male and the other body will be a female and they will be inseparable. This is why it is written; "What God has joined together, let no man put asunder". Jesus learned that each created man is supposed to have two bodies such as Adam and Eve were. Adam was the male body and Eve was the female body of ONE created man. However, all their offspring such as Cain and Abel, did not get a partner to be with. That's because Cain, the name of the one body that was formed in the womb of Eve was actually built with both male and female information. Cain was a male and a female in one body.

This will be straightened out after the day of the Lord. Then ONE created man will wake up with a male and a female body. They will be considered to be of one flesh and one mind but they will each have their own unique perspective within every dream they have together. They will never be separated and it's impossible for them to commit adultery because we will all be living according to the Law of God instead of being influenced by Satan and the beast like all human beings are in this generation.

If you were chosen to believe, then you will not reject this knowledge of Christ that the Lord is having me type for you. It may be a little confusing because you have been taught the religious lies from false prophets who started Judaism, Christianity, Islam and all the other religions on earth. If you're chosen and God wants you to receive 100% of this knowledge called Christ, then you will get to understand exactly how you were created.

God bless you for eternity,
jcforever
 
Loyal
There is no person named Jesus Christ.

So "Christ" is not the name of one person.

Most of the prophets, Jesus and the rest of us servants are nothing but the flesh of this world that are used to testify to the knowledge of Christ.

It was Satan and the beast that was used to establish religions from the building of false gods with human hands. Judaism, Christianity, Islam and the rest of the millions of religions that have been formed on earth have nothing to do with revealing the Truth.

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22
 
Moderator
Staff Member
There is no person named Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is a symbolic name that means the same exact thing as the symbolic name "Word of God". The name "Jesus" is a translated name of the first servant who testified to the knowledge of God called Christ. Christ is the pure thoughts of God that are converted into eternal life for all created men. All of us servants tho testified to this "Christ" learn all about the beast and how it was used to teach human beings how to build things ( false gods ) with their human hands. Our testimonies also reveal what the "day of the Lord" is and what happens on that day. We also learn from our testimonies of Christ how we'll experience life after the day of the Lord called the new heaven and earth.

So "Christ" is not the name of one person.

Question: So, you believe in a Christ Consciousness and not in an actual Christ?

If you answer the above question in the affirmative. Then this truly saddens me. Why? Because you put into question the very scripture you use concerning the coming of the Day of the Lord, and the very Lord that would provide Salvation from the Wrath of God.

I'll not continue the line of thought started in my last comments in this post until you confirm them with an answer to my opening question.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
<><
 
Member
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22

Yes. Jesus testified to Christ like all us servants of God have done since the millennium reign of Christ started 2,000 years ago. The first witness of the two witnesses started 2,000 years ago with many servants of God testifying to the knowledge called Christ. Christ is the pure thoughts of God without Satan and the beast that influences all the flesh of man. Satan and the beast along with all flesh of man will perish on the day of the Lord, then Christ will reign forever and ever.

Those who deny Christ, the Son of God, are known as the antichrist which are the flesh of man, the inhabitants that appear on earth. This is why God is using the earth to destroy all the inhabitants on earth because the flesh of man is not our true created existence. Man was created in the image of God and God is invisible thoughts converted into what we know as the creation. All the visible images we observe are observed within each mind of a created man. They are not real. What I mean by not being real is that our bodies are not made of material things called matter.
 
Member
Question: So, you believe in a Christ Consciousness and not in an actual Christ?

If you answer the above question in the affirmative. Then this truly saddens me. Why? Because you put into question the very scripture you use concerning the coming of the Day of the Lord, and the very Lord that would provide Salvation from the Wrath of God.

I'll not continue the line of thought started in my last comments in this post until you confirm them with an answer to my opening question.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
<><

The New Testament wasn't written and produced by us servants. False prophets starting with the religious Jews began stealing the written words of God's servants and memorizing some words from the spoken gospel of God. They used some of these words from Christ and mixed them with their Jewish traditions such as water baptism and blood sacrifices they practiced for over a thousand years. These pagan worshipers also added pagan doctrines going all the way back to the Babylonians and a new tradition called the Eucharist which has nothing to do with being baptized in the Holy Spirit of God which is something that all us chosen servants experience before we can start testifying to the knowledge of Christ.

I have given you my answer to what "Jesus Christ" means but it's obvious you're looking for an answer to satisfy your human ego, the ego that perishes during this temporary generation. I can't give you any answers based on what Satan and the beast have taught you in this world. Almost everything that was written by the former servants of God except for the OT prophecies have been destroyed by the antichrist. There have been a few original writings found in the last century such as the gospel of Thomas that has secret sayings in it. I understand all those secret sayings because I have the mind of Christ to understand them with.

i can see that you cannot understand that "man" was created in the image of "God" so man and God are the same things called the Word of God, the invisible spirit that we will never see. That invisible spirit of God came from the thoughts of our Creator who spoke us all into existence.

The visible flesh of man is not who we are in God. They are visible images that we observe in each of our created minds that are all attached to the same source of Life called the Tree of Life. The Tree of Life is totally invisible to man so that's why the millennium reign of Christ was used by the Creator to have certain chosen servants called "the elect", which are known as saints in the prophecies.

Psalm 16
3: As for the saints in the land, they are the noble, in whom is all my delight.

Psalm 79.
1. O God, the heathen have come into thy inheritance; they have defiled thy holy temple; they have laid Jerusalem in ruins.
2. They have given the bodies of thy servants to the birds of the air for food, the flesh of thy saints to the beasts of the earth.
3. They have poured out their blood like water round about Jerusalem, and there was none to bury them.
4. We have become a taunt to our neighbors, mocked and derided by those round us.

These saints are all those who testify to the knowledge of Christ and are killed by the religious heathens who misinterpret the scriptures because they are born of the Devil and worship the beast. These are the visible human beings built by the INVISIBLE "breath of life" and VISIBLE dust of the earth. All human beings ( the flesh of man ) will die during this temporary generation but the INVISIBLE spirit of man, the breath of life, will continue on forever. So the invisible spirit of man was created in the spirit of God, the INVISIBLE kingdom of God.

If you can't understand anything I've written in this forum via the Holy Spirit of God, then you were not chosen to hear His voice and understand the knowledge of Christ.

God blesses those who hear His word,
jcforever
 
Moderator
Staff Member
@jcforever
It seems my questions upset you. Which I am not overjoyed about.

Just know that a simple yes or no would suffice in answering the questions posed to you by me. Since, you cannot confirm or change anything of what you say. Your replies should have been as our Lord said "But let your statement be, 'Yes, yes' or 'No, no'; anything beyond these is of evil.

As you also know. Only by faith not in oneself, but in the Living God through the Mercy He has provided a belief in Jesus Christ or Yeshua Hamashiach through which one may be saved. It does not originate with us or have you forgotten where you were before this voice of yours made itself evident to you?

I pose another question: Two parts if you will.

Question: Was the answer you received a simple yes or no when you asked of the voice you listen to and assume is the One True God's when you asked as 1 John 4 has informed us to do on whether Christ Jesus came in the flesh? And was the answer a yes or a no to that question?

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
<><
 
Member
@jcforever
It seems my questions upset you. Which I am not overjoyed about.

It's impossible to upset me because I know who I am in the Lord. I have shared some knowledge from the mind of Christ that I possess but it appears you don't understand it or rejecting the idea that those words are coming from our Father in heaven.

Just know that a simple yes or no would suffice in answering the questions posed to you by me. Since, you cannot confirm or change anything of what you say. Your replies should have been as our Lord said "But let your statement be, 'Yes, yes' or 'No, no'; anything beyond these is of evil.

No. The Lord is the one who gives me the words to type into this forum or speak to His chosen disciples. If you're not chosen to accept His answer, then it's you who is speaking from the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" and not from the "tree of life".

As you also know. Only by faith not in oneself, but in the Living God through the Mercy He has provided a belief in Jesus Christ or Yeshua Hamashiach through which one may be saved. It does not originate with us or have you forgotten where you were before this voice of yours made itself evident to you?

If you were a chosen servant of the Lord who testified to the knowledge called Christ, then you would eventually be saying, "The Lord and I are ONE" just like all the other chosen servants ended up saying towards the end of their testimonies.

I pose another question: Two parts if you will.
Question: Was the answer you received a simple yes or no when you asked of the voice you listen to and assume is the One True God's when you asked as 1 John 4 has informed us to do on whether Christ Jesus came in the flesh? And was the answer a yes or a no to that question?

All the flesh of man came from the Word of God but all flesh in this first temporary generation were born of Lucifer, This is why God always takes us servants through the process of confessing and repenting of our sins so that the Devil and the beast cannot influence our thoughts as we're used to testify to the knowledge called Christ.

So yes, Jesus, Noah, Abraham, Israel, Joseph, Moses, David, Job, Isaiah, Daniel, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Peter, Timothy, Paul and all the various names of the flesh God used for His purpose to testify to the knowledge called Christ came from the Word of God, known as Jesus Christ.

If you're only familiar with the written words in a Bible and have never heard the voice of God speak clear concise commands into your mind, then you have no way of knowing whose voice I heard giving me commands to obey over a period of about 28 years. Not only did I have to obey all His commands, I gave me the words to pray whenever He got me into a terrible situation. Once I spoke out loud those words he formed in my mind to get me out of the situation, then I witnessed a miracle each time. I witnessed many miracles on my path to be used as His servant to testify to the knowledge called Christ to end the millennium reign of Christ. After obeying God's commands to get you to confess all your sins and repent of every one of them, you know for sure he's not the Devil making you confess and repent of sins. The Devil doesn't want you to confess and repent of sins. The Devil wants you to be religious and ignorant to the knowledge of Christ.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
<><

God blesses all who hear His voice,
jcforever
 
Member
So the answer is: No and No.

With the love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
<><

If you're satisfied with your answers to your questions, then there's nothing I can do to change your thoughts to the thoughts called Christ. Those thoughts are given to the chosen ones who listen to the gospel of God that we servants preach to them and believe those words and thoughts are coming from their Father in heaven. If you don't believe the words I type in this forum are coming from our Father in heaven, then that was meant to be for you during this temporary generation. You will hear the voice of God in the next generation like all created men will. In fact, the voice of the Lord will be every created man's way of learning the new language when they wake up in their new bodies. One body will be a male and the other body will be a female. They will be partners for eternity.

God blesses all those who hear His voice,
jcforever
 
Moderator
Staff Member
I can only be satisfied with what you have provided @jcforever
Anything else would be a lie though it be true.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
<><
 
Member
I can only be satisfied with what you have provided @jcforever
Anything else would be a lie though it be true.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
<><

You can trust that every word I type into this forum comes from our Father in heaven. If you don't believe this to be true, it won't change the plans of our Father. He will continue to use me as His servant until the body has died. The good news is that only the flesh of man perishes, not the created man in the image of God so I will continue on and wake up in new bodies on the new earth just like all created men will.

I Timothy 4:10
10: For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.

Isaiah 25
6: On this mountain the LORD of hosts will make for all peoples a feast of fat things, a feast of wine on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wine on the lees well refined.
7: And he will destroy on this mountain the covering that is cast over all peoples, the veil that is spread over all nations.
8: He will swallow up death for ever, and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from all faces, and the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth; for the LORD has spoken.
9: It will be said on that day, "Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, that he might save us. This is the LORD; we have waited for him; let us be glad and rejoice in his salvation."

Isaiah 45:
20: "Assemble yourselves and come, draw near together, you survivors of the nations! They have no knowledge who carry about their wooden idols, and keep on praying to a god that cannot save.
21: Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me.
22: "Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other.
23: By myself I have sworn, from my mouth has gone forth in righteousness a word that shall not return: `To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.'
24: "Only in the LORD, it shall be said of me, are righteousness and strength; to him shall come and be ashamed, all who were incensed against him.
25: In the LORD all the offspring of Israel shall triumph and glory."

Acts 17
24: The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by man,
25: nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all men life and breath and everything.
26: And he made from one every nation of men to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their habitation,
27: that they should seek God, in the hope that they might feel after him and find him. Yet he is not far from each one of us,
28: for ..In him we live and move and have our being'; as even some of your poets have said, ..For we are indeed his offspring.'

The plan was always to kill all the flesh of man during this temporary generation and on the day of the Lord, all the flesh of man that is still standing will be destroyed and burned up in the lake of fire. Only the spirit of man in the spirit of God remains in the Tree of Life forever.
 
Loyal
You can trust that every word I type into this forum comes from our Father in heaven. If you don't believe this to be true, it won't change the plans of our Father.

If that were true, then all your words would agree with the Word of God (Genesis to Revelation), but they do not. You deny that Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, who is also God, the second person of our triune God - Father, Son and Holy Spirit - came in the flesh as a singular individual. You deny that he existed as a singular person on this earth, thus you must also deny his virgin birth, his life and ministry, his death on the cross for our sins, his resurrection from the dead, his ascension back to heaven, his sending of his Holy Spirit to indwell the lives of his followers, his sovereignty and control over all that he created (he is our creator), his living within those who believe in him (in the person of the Holy Spirit), his watch and care over our lives in this present age, and that one day he is coming again to judge the world and to take his bride (Christians, which you also deny) to be with him forever. Thus, you deny the whole of the New Testament and the gospel of our salvation, as well as all the prophecies of the Old Testament regarding the coming of our Messiah, Jesus Christ, in the flesh, though the Old Testament does not name him as Jesus, to the best of my knowledge, though the New Testament makes reference to many of these prophecies as being fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ.

So, you must be here, on a forum given over to teaching about Jesus Christ, as I have described him, to contradict the scriptures, which are God's Word to us, his followers, and to teach a false doctrine contrary to what we have been taught. Thus, as I quoted earlier, this must apply to you:

Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22

So, I pray for your salvation and that God Almighty (our heavenly Father) and his Son Jesus Christ (God) and the Holy Spirit (God) will bring you to the knowledge of the truth, and that he will save your soul from hell and bring you into his heavenly kingdom through faith in Jesus Christ ,as he is taught in scripture (the Holy Bible - Genesis to Revelation).
 
Member
If that were true, then all your words would agree with the Word of God (Genesis to Revelation), but they do not. You deny that Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, who is also God, the second person of our triune God - Father, Son and Holy Spirit - came in the flesh as a singular individual. You deny that he existed as a singular person on this earth, thus you must also deny his virgin birth, his life and ministry, his death on the cross for our sins, his resurrection from the dead, his ascension back to heaven, his sending of his Holy Spirit to indwell the lives of his followers, his sovereignty and control over all that he created (he is our creator), his living within those who believe in him (in the person of the Holy Spirit), his watch and care over our lives in this present age, and that one day he is coming again to judge the world and to take his bride (Christians, which you also deny) to be with him forever. Thus, you deny the whole of the New Testament and the gospel of our salvation, as well as all the prophecies of the Old Testament regarding the coming of our Messiah, Jesus Christ, in the flesh, though the Old Testament does not name him as Jesus, to the best of my knowledge, though the New Testament makes reference to many of these prophecies as being fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ.

So, you must be here, on a forum given over to teaching about Jesus Christ, as I have described him, to contradict the scriptures, which are God's Word to us, his followers, and to teach a false doctrine contrary to what we have been taught. Thus, as I quoted earlier, this must apply to you:



So, I pray for your salvation and that God Almighty (our heavenly Father) and his Son Jesus Christ (God) and the Holy Spirit (God) will bring you to the knowledge of the truth, and that he will save your soul from hell and bring you into his heavenly kingdom through faith in Jesus Christ ,as he is taught in scripture (the Holy Bible - Genesis to Revelation).

I deny that God only used one visible human being to come to testify to the knowledge of God called Christ. There were many servants of God who testified to the knowledge of Christ during this millennium reign of Christ. The one typing this sentence is the last servant God has used to testify to the knowledge of God called Christ so if you deny this knowledge called Christ, then you are the one who is an antichrist, not the servant of God who write and speaks each word from the mind of Christ.

The reason the word of the Lord that I testify to is different from what you read in the New Testament is because the New Testament was not written and produced by us servants of God. It was written and produced by heathens who were stealing the words from the servants who were testifying to the knowledge of God called Christ during the first witness of the millennium reign of Christ. They mixed some of those stolen words with their Jewish traditions and other pagan traditions and doctrines which made up the writings you find in the New Testament.

They made St.Paul look like a visible church builder for the Roman Catholic church by stealing words that he had written for God's purpose and adding lies to those writings. St.Paul was not going around establishing churches for the Roman Catholics. He was simply writing and speaking each word from the knowledge called Christ that were formed in his mind via the Holy Spirit of God. St. Paul knew all about the beast that taught man how to build false gods with their human hands but as you can see, there is no mention about the beast in St.Paul's writings. There's no mention about the beast anywhere in the New Testament other than in Revelation, yet, all us servants of God are taught everything about the beast and why it was necessary to reveal the Tree of Life.

Jesus knew all about the beast and this is why he understood that on the day of the Lord, all the false gods built with human hands according to the beast would be destroyed on that day and burned up in the fire of God. Jesus would have taught all God's disciple's about the beast that causes man to build false gods such as the "dens of Satan" that the Jews built with their human hands. All those hand built Jewish tabernacles are false gods where they worship the beast and Satan. They worship their own interpretations of what they read in the scriptures and the prophecies instead of listening to the voice of the Lord and obeying His commandments.

We servants of God have to write the stories about the future so we understand all the prophecies written in the Old Testament. The prophecies about the beast fit perfectly in our writings about the beast and how it caused man to build false gods. The parable about the "Tower of Babel" fits perfectly with this writing that God formed in my mind word for word from the mind of Christ that I posses. Read this entire writing; What is the Beast and the Antichrist?

If you don't understand anything in this writing, then you were not chosen as one of God's disciples. Instead, you're being influenced by the Devil and the beast where all religions of man come from.

God blesses all those who hear His voice,
jcforever
 
Loyal
I deny that God only used one visible human being to come to testify to the knowledge of God called Christ.

This is pretty heavy. Some would say sacrilegious.
You are partly right. Christ isn't a name. There was no one named "Joseph Christ" or "Mary Christ".
It's a title. Basically the same as Messiah. There are verses that say "Jesus Christ" Matt 1:18; Mark 1:1; John 1:17; John 17:3; etc...
But a more correct wording would be Jesus the Messiah, or Jesus the Christ. Christ is a title.
There is only one Messiah, there is only one Christ. There is no other. Jesus is the only one.

There is only one person who died for our sins (and rose again). There is only one begotten Son. There is only one lamb of God.
There is only one King of Kings, only one Lord or Lords, and only one name by which we can be saved.
 
Member
This is pretty heavy. Some would say sacrilegious.
You are partly right. Christ isn't a name. There was no one named "Joseph Christ" or "Mary Christ".
It's a title. Basically the same as Messiah. There are verses that say "Jesus Christ" Matt 1:18; Mark 1:1; John 1:17; John 17:3; etc...
But a more correct wording would be Jesus the Messiah, or Jesus the Christ. Christ is a title.
There is only one Messiah, there is only one Christ. There is no other. Jesus is the only one.

There is only one person who died for our sins (and rose again). There is only one begotten Son. There is only one lamb of God.
There is only one King of Kings, only one Lord or Lords, and only one name by which we can be saved.

The son of God is Christ, the pure invisible thoughts of our Creator that is converted into eternal life for all created men. Christ is not the name of one servant named Jesus, Peter, Timothy, Paul, Moses, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, etc. You worship a dead image instead of our Father in heaven in which Christ exists. Christ will be used to form a new earth in the minds of created men and a new heaven without Satan and the beast around to deceive men. The Messiah you are referring to is the Holy Spirit of God, another name for Christ.

John 14
23: Jesus answered him, "If a man loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.
24: He who does not love me does not keep my words; and the word which you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me.
25: "These things I have spoken to you, while I am still with you.
26: But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
 
Top