Luke's faithful/faithless servant

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Luke 15:24 for this my son was Dead and is alive again,
He was lost and is found...

If your dead and lost you certainly dont have salvation
But if you repent and are found and alive to the Father you do...

 

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The Father never said he "is dead".
Luke 15:31“ ‘My son,’ the father said, ‘you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ ”

Ephesians 2:1 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,

So when the father is speaking and said
This brother of yours was DEAD he isnt saying it?

To be alive AGAIN means you had to be alive before... and dead in between

 

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Look the 5 wise virgins and the 5 foolish virgins both have lamps and oil..... they are both the same Except the 5 do Not take extra oil them and when Jesus doesnt come when they expected him (pre trib rapture) their oil (faith and works doing Gods will watching for Christ return) then runs out and the only thing the wise do differently is have enough oil till Jesus does show up and the 5 not watching are left..... they became unwise and found that out when Jesus came.... same as when paul hopes to rejoice and not in vain.

 

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Matt 24:45-51
1. The servant to the Lord is Wise if when Jesus comes and the servant is doing his will Jesus will make him ruler over all Christ has.. But the servant can (like virgins and lukes version) believe his master is delayed he beats and drinks and then Jesus comes on a day when hes not watching for him and he is cut asunder and is outside with weeping and gnashing of teeth...

So its the same man...... he like the virgins can keep watching for Jesus and be rewarded or fall away and get caught and sent with the unbelievers...... this shows a believer can stay like the prodigals brother or go into the world and be Dead to the Father and be cast out....

 

[Christ4Ever]

They escape the contamination of the world
(Can an unbeliever escape?)

HOW?
Through the knowledge of the LORD and SAVIOR
JESUS CHRIST.....MESSIAH
(And you think this means an unbeliever) while they can have a knowledge about Jesus they cannot THROUGH as LORD and SAVIOR.....

So when an unbeliever hears the word (knowledge) and he then escape the world? How so? (This is a personal knowledge)

It is your osas that stands in the way... so let me ask you a question sir.....

There are two men doing Gods will when one ask the Father if he can have his inheritance, he then goes out into the world and looses his inheritance and then decides to come back to the Father so he repents and as he is coming (because of repentance) the Father comes to meet him and he says:
you were Dead (out in world)overcome in the pollution's
but Now you live Again...

When he was Dead to the Father do you think he still had salvation?

First brother.
All I have done is ask you to look at an alternative way at looking to what you have referenced. I have never stated your position is wrong or right. It would seem that you do not accept queries readily and any question asked must be either in support or against the position you happen to hold. My apologies for asking you any questions. Please disregard the one concerning Philippians.

With that being said. I hope you understand that you do not know what I believe except that Jesus Christ is my Lord & Savior. I've never stated my position on this thread or held support for either position. So please don't jump to any conclusions concerning what people believe or don't believe. Too often assumptions cause misunderstandings. Which creates conflicts. A loss for all concerned.
Only in love brother.
C4E
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[Thiscrosshurts]

So when the father is speaking and said
This brother of yours was DEAD he isnt saying it?

It may seem a small matter but the word "is " is an eternal word because like eternity there is no beginning and no end,it always was and always will be.
What the father said about the son while the son was away is not mentioned.
The past and the future are not in our experience "now" so "was" is not an eternal reality.

This story reveals a pattern
Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood,