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John saw TWO worshipped in Heaven.

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John saw TWO worshipped in Heaven.

John, who visited heaven,
SAW the Worship of the everlasting TWO,
while he was in heaven.

John the highly honored Apostle ascended to heaven
and in heaven he saw the worship of the Father (the Most High)
and the Son (the previous God of Israel)

Rev.4
[3] He, (the Highest, a recognizable male GOD),
who sat (on the throne),
was in appearance,
similar to a jasper and a sardine stone.
Around the throne (of GOD the Highest), there was a rainbow,
that looked similar to an emerald.
[4] Twenty four (24) seats were located (in a circle), around the throne (of GOD).

I saw twenty four (24) elders (of Israel = Prophets and righteous men),
clothed in white raiment,
sitting upon the (24) seats,
They had, crowns of gold (like kings), on their heads.
[5] Out of/ from the throne (of GOD) proceeded:

lightning (intermittent lights)
and thundering (intermittent sounds) and (different) voices.
Seven (7) lamps of fire,
that are the seven (7) Spirits of GOD, (JESUS had ALL 7)
were burning before the throne (of the Highest).
[6] In front of the throne (of LORD GOD Almighty),
there was a sea (expanse) of glass that was similar to crystal.
In the midst of the throne (of GOD),
and around the throne (of GOD, the Most High),
there were four (4) beasts.
They were full of eyes in the front and in the back.
[7] The first beast was like a lion.

The second beast was like a calf.
The third beast had a face like a man.
The fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
[8] Each of the four (4) beasts had six (6) wings around him

and they were full of eyes within
and they do not rest day or night saying:

The Worship of GOD, the Highest the Father, who never died.
Rev.4
Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord GOD Almighty, (the good Father),
who was and who is and who is to come. (immortal)
[9] When the (4) beasts give:

glory (praise)
and honor (high regard)
and thanks (for all good gifts)
to the Highest who sat on the throne,
who lives forever and ever (and never dies)
[10] then the twenty four (24) elders

>> fall down (on all fours) before the Highest,
who sat on the throne,
and worshiped him (happily and humbly),
who lives forever and ever.
They cast their crowns, in front of,
the throne (of the Most High and good GOD) saying:
[11] O LORD (GOD), you are >> worthy << to get

glory (acknowledgment and high regard from the creation)
and honor (from the entire creation)
and power (to rule above all)
for you have created all things, (by Jesus Christ your Power and your Wisdom).
All things are and were created, (by Jesus),
to bring you (the good GOD), pleasure (happiness).

The Worship of the Son, the lamb, who is the Mighty God of Israel.

Rev.5
[6] I beheld and lo,
in the midst of the throne (with GOD) and the four (4) beasts,
and in the midst of the (24) elders,
a Lamb, like it (he) had been >> killed, stood
having seven (7) horns and seven (7) eyes,
that are the seven (7) Spirits of GOD, (Jesus has the 7)
that are sent forth into the entire earth (and in the holy people).
[7] The lamb came

and took the Book from the right hand of GOD, (the Highest)
who sat upon the throne.
[8] When, the lamb (the Mighty God), had taken the book,

the four (4) beasts together with the twenty (24) elders,
every one of them having harps (musicians)
and golden vials full of odors, that are the prayers of saints,
>> fell down before (worshipped) the Lamb (the HEAD of the Church).
[9] They (the 28) sung a new song (of praise to Jesus) saying:
You are worthy, (have merited),
to take the Book and to open its seals,
for you were slain (for our sins)
and by your blood, you (the seed of Abraham),
have redeemed us to GOD(the Highest),
out of every kindred and tongue and people and nation
[10] and you have made us Kings and Priests,(a Royal Priesthood),

to our GOD (the Highest)
and we (Kings and Priests of the Highest GOD),
shall reign (over all people) on the earth.
[11] I (John) saw and I heard >> the voice << of many angels (saved ones)
who gathered around the throne (of GOD)
and the (4) beasts and the (24) elders:
and the number (total) of them (the angels),
was ten thousand times ten thousand,
and thousands of thousands
[12] shouting with a (united) loud voice:

The Lamb who was slain is worthyto be rewarded (from GOD)
Power >> (all power in Heaven and on the earth)
and Riches (Spiritual and Material, as GOD’s inheritor)
and Wisdom (from the 7 Spirits)
and strength (from the 7 Spirits)
and honor (from GOD and man)
and glory (from GOD and man)
and blessing (happiness from GOD and man, forever)

International Worship of the TWO,
the Everlasting GOD and his Son the God of all Flesh.

[13] I (John)heard every creature (of the whole creation),
in heaven and on the earth,
and under the earth,
and such who are in the sea,
and all of the living ones who are in them saying/ shouting:
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Blessing (happiness to BOTH)
and honor (acknowledgement and high regard to BOTH)
and glory (greatness to BOTH)
and power (ruler ship to BOTH; The Son is over the entire creation and the Father above all.)
to GOD, the Most High (#1) who sits upon the throne
and to the Lamb (#2), the Mighty God)
forever and ever (ceaselessly, by Gentiles and Israelites >> by the New Man)
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[14] Then the four (4) beasts said: Amen (= warmly agreed)

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Then the twenty four (24) elders >> fell down and worshipped GOD,
our immortal Father (the Living GOD = I am), who lives forever and ever.
*
Rev.7
[9] After this, (the selection of 144,000),
I (John) beheld and lo an expansive multitude of people,
whom no man could number,
from all nations (Israelites and Gentiles), and kindred and people and tongues
stood before the throne (of the Highest who is the GOD of all nations),
and before the Lamb (Jesus, the previous exclusive God of Israel),
clothed with white robes and with palms in their hands.
[10] They shouted with a loud voice saying:

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>> Salvation to (#1) our GOD (the Highest), who sits on the throne
>> and Salvation to (#2), the Lamb (the Mighty God of Israel)
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[11] All of the angels, (the saved brothers),

stood (in a circle) around the throne (of GOD the Greatest)
and encircled the (24) Elders and the four (4) beasts
and they all >> fell before the throne (of the Highest) on their faces
and worshipped GOD (our good Father),
[12] saying:

Amen:
Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving
and honor and power and might,
be to our GOD (the Highest), forever and ever. Amen.
*
[13] One of the (24) Elders answered saying to me:

Who are these people who are arrayed in white robes
and from where did they come?
[14] I (John) said to him:

Sir, you know. (Opinions are not customary)
He said to me:
These are those (Christians),.
who came out of great tribulation, (provided by the unbelievers)
and they have washed their robes and made them white
in the blood of the Lamb (the God and Savior of Israel)
[15] Therefore they are before the throne of GOD (his Father),

and serve him day and night in his Temple
and he (the Father), who sits on the throne, shall live among them.
[16] They shall not hunger anymore, nor thirst (for the Spirit) anymore

nor shall the sun (Jewish teachers), nor any heat, light on them
[17] for the Lamb (the Light of Israel),

who is in the midst of the throne,
shall feed them (the Word)
and he (Jesus) shall lead them to Living Fountains of Waters (the Holy Spirit)
and GOD (our happy Father), shall wipe away all of the tears from their eyes.

Rev.19
[1] After these things were done,in heaven,
I heard a (united)loud voice, of numerous peopleshouting:
Alleluia!
Salvation,
Glory,
Honor
and Power (belongs) to the LORD our GOD (the Only True GOD)
[2] because his Judgments (on Israel) are True (fair) and Righteous.
for the Highest has judged the great *****, (the Priests of Israel)
who corrupted the earth (Israel) with her fornication
and he has avenged the blood of his servants,
(who are, the Prophets and Apostles), at her hand. (70 A.D.)
[3] They repeated: Alleluia!
and her smoke rose up forever and ever.
[4] and the twenty four (24) Elders (ofIsrael, who are Prophets of old...)

and the four (4) beasts
(28) fell down and worshipped GOD, (the GOD and Father of Jesus who is the God of Israel)
who sat on the throne, saying:
Amen (correct)
Alleluia.
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[5] Avoice came out of the throne saying:

Praise our GOD, (the Father),
all of his servants (Apostles and converts)
and all of you, both small (in society) and great (in society),
who fear (respect/ regard) him, (and his total Highness, above us, his creation)
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[6] I heard like it was the voice of a large multitude,
like the voice of many waters,(peoples/ nations)
like the voice of mighty (powerful) thundering, saying: Alleluia:
The LORD GOD (our Father) omnipotent, reigns.
[7] Let us be happy(about our Father)and rejoice (because of our Father)

and give honor to Our good Father
for the marriage of the Lamb (his Son, the God of Israel) has arrived
and his wife (Apostles and converts PLUS) has/ have made herself ready.

Jesus, the Son was always worshipped, among the Israelites who had light.

Pss.45
[10] Hearken, O daughter (of the Prophets = the Apostles and converts),
and consider (carefully).
Incline your ear (be attentive).
Also forget your own (evil) people (of Judaism)
and forget your father's house (of Judaism)
[11] So that the king (of Israel, = the God of Israel = Jesus),

shall greatly desire your beauty (your righteousness)
He (Jesus) is your LORD, (the incarnated God of Israel, the Son of the Highest).
>> Worship him (the Son, and not only the Father)

Heb.1
[6] and again,
when GOD brings his first begotten (Son = Jesus – the Mighty God),
into the world (of Israel)
he said
Let all the angels (children) of GOD
>> worship him (Jesus, the Mighty God and not only the Father).

Matt.14
[32] When they came into the ship, the wind ceased.
[33] Then those who were in the ship came and >>
worshipped him (Jesus) saying:
Of a truth you are the Son of GOD (= the Mighty God = the God of Israel)

Phil.3
[3] We (Christians) are the (TRUE) circumcision,
who worship (#1) GOD, in the Spirit (of GOD),
and who rejoice in Christ Jesus (our maker)
and who have no confidence
in the flesh, (our own abilities to please GOD and Christ).

John.9
[35] Jesus heard that they had cast out, (the previous blind man),
and when Jesus found him, Jesus asked him:
Do you believe on the Son of GOD? (= the God of Israel)
[36] He replied and said:

Who is he Lord so that I might believe on him?
[37] Jesus said to him:

You have seen him (the God of Israel), and it is he who is talking with you.
[38] He responded: LORD (the God of Israel = the Son of GOD),

I believe (who you are)
and he >> worshipped Jesus.

Mark.5
[5] Night and day he was always, in the mountains and in the tombs,
crying and cutting himself with stones.
[6] When he saw Jesus afar off he ran and >> worshipped him,
[7] and cried with a loud voice and said:

What have I to do with you, Jesus (= the God of Israel),
Son of the Most High GOD?
I adjure you by GOD, that you do not torment me.

Matt.28
[9] and as they went to tell his disciples;
Behold, Jesus met them saying:
All hail (Greetings),
and they came and held him (the God of Israel),
by the feet and >> worshipped him.
*

[17] When they (the Apostles) saw him (Jesus, the Mighty God alive after being dead),
they >> worshipped him, but some doubted (were unsure)

Matt.2
[1] Now when Jesus (the LORD from Heaven),
was born in Bethlehem of Judaea,
during the days (the lifetime) of Herod the king,
behold wise men came, from the east to Jerusalem, [2] asking:
Where is he, King of the Jews (= God of Israel), who is born?
We have seen his star in the east
and we have come to >> worship him (the Mighty God of Israel)

Luke.24
[50] Jesus (the incarnated God of Israel) led them out,
as far as to Bethany,
and then Jesus lifted up his hands and he blessed them.
[51] It came to pass, that while Jesus blessed them,

he parted from them and he was carried up into heaven.
[52] and they >> worshipped him

and they returned to Jerusalem
with great (and unusual) happiness: (having connections in heaven)
[53] and they (the Apostles…) were continually in the Jerusalem Temple,

praising and blessing GOD (and Christ) Amen.
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GOD the Highest (#1), and his Son, the Mighty God (#2),
are worshipped (Forever), by the family in heaven
and the family who are on the earth.
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Grace is from GOD and the Mighty God but through Christ,
who is (was) the incarnated Mighty God of Israel.
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We go to Christ through acceptable baptism,
calling on him from the watery burial.
He immediately responds.

Grace to all, on the Father’s simple terms.


 
Revelation chapters 4 and 5 are totally amazing!

I prefer to read it with out the "explanations"

Deja vu?


Did the Scripture say that?
How many are worshipped in Heaven?
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The Worship of GOD, the Highest the Father, who never died.
Rev.4
Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord GOD Almighty, (the good Father),
who was and who is and who is to come.
[9] When the (4) beasts give:
glory (praise)
and honour (high regard)
and thanks (for all good gifts)
to the Highest who sat on the throne,
who lives forever and ever (and never dies)
[10] then the twenty four (24) elders >> fall down (on all fours) before the Highest,
who sat on the throne,
and worshiped him (happily and humbly),
who lives forever and ever.
They cast their crowns, in front of, the throne (of the Most High and good GOD) saying:
[11] O LORD (GOD), you are >> worthy << to get
glory (acknowledgment and high regard from the creation)
and honour (from the entire creation)
and power (to rule above all)
for you have created all things, (by Jesus Christ your Power and your Wisdom).
All things are and were created, (by Jesus),
to bring you (the good GOD), pleasure (happiness).

The Worship of the Son, the lamb, who is the Mighty God of Israel.

Rev.5
[6] I beheld and lo,
in the midst of the throne (with GOD) and the four (4) beasts,
and in the midst of the (24) elders,
a Lamb, like it (he) had been >> killed, stood
having seven (7) horns and seven (7) eyes,
that are the seven (7) Spirits of GOD,
that are sent forth into the entire earth (and in the holy people).
[7] The lamb came and took the Book from the right hand of GOD, (the Highest)
who sat upon the throne.
[8] When he, the lamb (the Mighty God), had taken the book,
the four (4) beasts together with the twenty (24) elders,
every one of them having harps (musicians)
and golden vials full of odors, that are the prayers of saints,
>> fell down before (worshipped) the Lamb (the HEAD of the Church).
[9] They (28) sung a new song (of praise to Jesus) saying:
You are worthy, (have merited),
to take the Book and to open its seals,
for you were slain (for our sins)
and by your blood, you (the seed of Abraham),
have redeemed us to GOD (the Highest),
out of every kindred and tongue and people and nation
[10] and you have made us Kings and Priests, (a Royal Priesthood),
to our GOD (the Highest)
and we (Kings and Priests of the Highest GOD),
shall reign (over all people) on the earth.
[11] I (John) saw and I heard >> the voice << of many angels (saved ones)
who gathered around the throne (of GOD)
and the (4) beasts and the (24) elders:
and the number of them (the angels) was ten thousand times ten thousand,
and thousands of thousands
[12] shouting with a (united) loud voice:
The Lamb who was slain is worthy to be rewarded (from GOD)
Power >> (all power in Heaven and on the earth)
and Riches (Spiritual and material, as GOD’s inheritor)
and Wisdom (from the 7 Spirits)
and strength (from the 7 Spirits)
and honour (from GOD and man)
and glory (from GOD and man)
and blessing (happiness from GOD and man, foreve
r.



Even the weird code using color #800000 is the same....


So it seems to me the use of the phrase, "The Worship of GOD, the Highest the Father, who never died." is the commentary that is troubling.

It seems both you and WordSponge wish to promote the same false doctrine.



Let's take a closer look...

Revelation 1
"To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood 6 and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. 7 Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

...

17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, 18 and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades."

Revelation 21:5 And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” 6 And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment. 7 The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”


Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

14 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates. 15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”



daughterforligh,

Are you and Wordsponge one in the same?

@Chad, what do you think?







 
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Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

All who try to belittle the Holy Spirit grieve Him.

Tiz true..
 
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

All who try to belittle the Holy Spirit grieve Him.

Tiz true..
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Move on...
 
So you and Wordsponge are one in the same?
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So you are a Catholic...
Move on....

Deut.19
[16] If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong (untrue);
[17] Then both the men, between whom the controversy exists,
shall stand before the LORD,
before the Priests and the Judges, who shall be in those days;
[18] And the Judges shall make diligent inquisition:
and, behold, if the witness is a false (lying) witness, and has testified falsely against his brother;
[19] Then shall you do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother:
so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

Manipulators and the manipulated are coming to an end.
The honorable people will RISE.
 
The TRUE Christians were hounded and killed, their Scriptures confiscated
and propaganda spread about them.

GOD and Christ are with their own...even at present.
 
Ephesians 5:11 "Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
 
The Son was manifested in the flesh and called God.
1Tim.3
[16] without controversy great is the mystery (secret) of godliness:
God (Jesus the Son) was manifest in the flesh,
justified in the Spirit,
seen of / by angels (the Apostles ...)
preached unto the Gentiles,
believed on in the world,
received up into glory (Heaven)

The Son is God.
The Father is GOD.
The Greeks have their own rules for who can be God.

Confusion reigns.
It is the will of GOD, for not OBEYING and degrading the Apostles.
 
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