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Why Did Jesus Curse the Fig Tree?

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Why Did Jesus “Curse” the Fig Tree?
by Wayne Jackson / Source



“Can you explain the case where Jesus ‘cursed’ a fig tree? There are several things about this that are hard to understand. Did Christ have a right to ‘curse’ a tree?


What is the meaning of ‘curse’? Since the tree was apparently destroyed, did he destroy property that did not belong to him? Some people say that this shows that Jesus made mistakes just like everyone else."

The conclusion that “some people” draw regarding this incident is quite misdirected and is the result of a lack of understanding of what was involved in this episode near the end of Christ’s ministry.

The situation involving the cursed fig tree is recorded in two places in the Gospel records — Matthew 21:18-19; 20-22 and Mark 11:12-14; 20-25. We will introduce Mark’s version for the purpose of this discussion
“And on the morrow, when they had come out of Bethany, he [Jesus] hungered. And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if perhaps he might find anything thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for it was not the season of figs. And he answered and said unto it, ‘No man [will] eat fruit from you from now on — for ever.’ And his disciples heard it …. And as they passed by in the morning, they saw the fig tree withered away from the roots. And Peter calling to remembrance said unto him, ‘Rabbi, behold, the fig tree that you cursed is withered away’” (Mk. 11:12-14; 20-21).
For brevity’s sake, we have taken the two references that refer directly to this event in Mark’s Gospel, and combined them. We are omitting verses 15-19, which provide some transitional information that occurred between the two successive days that are related to this scene. Likewise, we are stopping short of the Savior’s subsequent discussion of this matter, as recorded in verses 22-25.

We will analyze this controversial text in the following segments.

The Curse

The term “cursed” is used only once in the two New Testament records of this incident. On the second day, as Christ and his disciples passed by the tree, on their way to Jerusalem, it was noticed that the fig tree was completely dead.

This compelled Peter, who was speaking on behalf of the others as well (cf. Mt. 21:20), to comment: “Rabbi, look! The fig tree which you cursed has withered.” (v. 21).

It should be noted first that the term “curse” is not used in biblical parlance in the modern sense of profanity. Rather, a curse was a pronouncement of judgment upon a person or object (cf. Mt. 25:41).
In this case, there was a command miracle by which Christ spoke words that would cause this tree to die.

Christ’s action was not a purposeless act of intemperance. It represented a strong object-lesson that the disciples needed to learn (and numerous others since that time as well).

Did Jesus Destroy Someone Else’s Personal Property?

As to the charge that Jesus destroyed that which was not his, several things must be noted.

First, it cannot be established that the tree had an owner. Matthew observes that it was growing “by the wayside” (Mt. 21:19). It therefore may have been a “volunteer” tree, as such are known in any land.

It is worthy of notation that Peter did not rebuke the Lord for destroying another’s property, even though the impetuous apostle was not reticent to admonish his Master when he felt the circumstance warranted such (cf. Mt. 16:22).

Second, W. M. Thompson, a scholar eminently familiar with Palestinean customs, pointed out that it was common for travelers to pick fruit from road-side trees, or from any tree that was not enclosed; there was no censure associated with such (p. 350).

Third, it must be emphasized that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He himself possesses the nature of deity (Jn. 1:1; 10:30; 20:28). As deity, therefore, the earth and its fullness are his (Psa. 24:1).

He has the sovereign right to use the elements of creation to accomplish those higher goals which man, limited in his knowledge, may not perceive at a given moment in time.

And that includes the destruction of a tree, or even a herd of swine (cf. Mk. 5:13). No man has the right to say of him, “What doest thou?” (Dan. 4:35; cf. Rom. 11:33-36).

Why Did Jesus Curse the Fig Tree?

In order to put this situation into sharper focus, the student needs to examine the meaning behind this action by Christ. When the Lord first saw the tree, he was yet “afar off.” He could only discern that it had leaves (v. 13).

One must conclude that this circumstance reveals that though he was deity, Jesus did not exercise the full range of his divine powers constantly. He did not know the details regarding this tree until he was in close proximity (v. 13b).

When the Savior arrived at the tree, he observed a curious thing — the fig tree was fruitless. Of what significance is this?

Alfred Edersheim has called attention to the fact that “in Palestine the fruit appears before the leaves” (p. 374; emphasis added). Thus, to see a leafed fig tree (even at an unseasonable time — v. 13b), warranted the assumption that there would be fruit on the tree.

But this tree was an oddity; the leaves were there, but it was fruitless. This phenomenon, therefore, served as a perfect “visual aid” for an important lesson that the Savior wished to teach.

Centuries earlier, the Hebrew nation had been separated from the pagan peoples of antiquity to serve in a special role in the divine economy. In the days of Moses, the people of “Israel” were designated as Jehovah’s “firstborn” (Ex. 4:22), i.e., they were granted a priority status. God thus said to Pharoah, who held Israel captive, “let my people go” (Ex. 5:1).

Across the centuries, however, the Israelite people frequently rebelled against their Creator. Isaiah once characterized the situation in the following fashion
“The ox knows his owner, and the donkey his master’s crib, but Israel does not know, my people do not understand” (Isa. 1:3).
Read the prophet’s stirring rebuke of a wicked nation that refused to be governed by the Sovereign of the Universe (Isa. 5:1ff).

While there were occasional periods of spiritual revival among the Hebrews, as in the days of Josiah, a good king (cf. 2 Kgs. 22-23), the tragic fact is that the nation was on a gradual, degenerative slide — a path of apostasy that would culminate with the blood-thirsty cry, “Crucify him! Crucify him!” (Lk. 23:21).

The Jewish people, through the influence they exerted upon the Roman authorities (see Mt. 20:19; Acts 2:23), had Jesus killed. They murdered the very Messiah for whom they had waited across the centuries (see Mt. 21:33ff). Though they had enjoyed every conceivable spiritual advantage, they had become, for the most part, an utterly renegade nation.

In the symbolism of the Scriptures, a fruitless, withered tree was worthy of nothing more than being cut down (cf. Psa. 90:6; Hos. 9:16). “Withering” was a symbol of imminent death (Joel 1:12). In the blasting of this fruitless fig tree, the Son of God was suggesting this:

  1. The nation, as a political entity, had become a worthless mechanism in the sacred scheme of things. It thus was worthy of nothing but destruction.
  2. That destruction would shortly come (within forty years — A.D. 66-70) with the invasion of the land by the Roman armies (cf. Mt. 22:7ff; 24:15ff).
  3. The punishment would be complete and final; the “tree” would be dead from the very “roots” (Mk. 11:20).
Conclusion

There was a very good reason why Jesus Christ acted as he did on this occasion. It was not an impulsive act, it was not a misguided, irresponsible gesture. It was a deliberate, highly instructive warning. Unfortunately, the lesson conveyed has been lost upon the minds of many.
 
The old testament link is found in Jeremiah. The fig tree was the symbol of Israel (Jeremiah 24:2,5,8).
The fig tree story is followed directly by the cleansing of the temple. The two are related and concern the nation of Israel.
But it's not just a historical matter of fact.
These things are pointing towards Jesus's redemptive work on the cross.
By this time, the nation of Israel which should have born fruit, was overcome by Satan and was God's enemy.
This is a story about the living God incarnate defeating his opposers in order to pave the way for our redemption.
It was necessary for Jesus to address the opposing Jewish leaders who were overcome by Satan in order to pave the way for the gospel (Mark chapter 1 to 10)
In the latter part of Mark chapter 11 Jesus's aim is to prove to his disciples, opposers and the crowd that He was the living God incarnate with the authority and ability to conquer his enemies (and Satan), forgive sins and move mountains (and later, to go to the cross for our redemption). Jesus's engagement with his enemies continues in chapter 12 where he encounters each opposer in succession (Pharisees and Herodians, then Sadducees, then Scribes). Chapter 11 and 12 sets the scene for chapter 13 which is preparation for Christ's death and the things to come.
 
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I think Jesus simply cursed a fruitless tree. That could be a Jew or Gentile.
 
I like what James is saying but, to me, it is more simple like what pekoe says. Jesus was refering to the Kingdom of God as trees. Any tree (no matter how beautiful), perhaps at that time he was focusing on the Jew but, ultimately it was for any Christian. If you don't abide in the vine, you can not bare his fruit. John 15:5 If you claim to be a Christian but do not bare Christ'd fruit, then you are no Christian at all and all your work to become a beautiful tree will be burned up!
 
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We all know it's true that some Jews rejected Jesus, but some Jews also believed Him and without those faithful Jews who loved God, we would never had heard about Jesus. We owe them everything.


Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Ro.11:18
 
I like what James is saying but, to me, it is more simple like what pekoe says. Jesus was refering to the Kingdom of God as trees. Any tree (no matter how beautiful), perhaps at that time he was focusing on the Jew but, ultimately it was for any Christian. If you don't abide in the vine, you can not bare his fruit. John 15:5 If you claim to be a Christian but do not bare Christ'd fruit, then you are no Christian at all and all your work to become a beautiful tree will be burned up!

Yes I think the concept of trees and fruit has universal application, even as far back as Genesis where we have the tree of life and the tree of knowledge.
Fruit signifies pleasure or satisfaction of hunger - a tree without fruit means something or someone that gives Christ no pleasure or satisfaction and leaves Him hungry.
I hope my explanation was not too complex, I tried to frame it around the context of the surrounding passages pointing towards Jesus's redemption. I do have a simpler version - I once said in a Christian forum similar to this one, that Jesus cursed the fig tree simply because He was hungry and wanted something to eat and probably had low blood sugar (which normally makes one a little angry), but no one really liked that because it showed that Jesus was a human being. I think there is both a very human side and a spiritual side to this story.
 
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I don't want to think that our Heavenly Father only showed the few the meaning of why our Lord Jesus cursed that fig tree and it withered. James is close, because he linked the fig tree to prophecy in the OT prophets, and that's what those who miss the meaning are also missing in their Bible study.

In Jeremiah 24, God showed Jeremiah two baskets of figs, one basket of good figs that represent Judah, and another basket of evil, naughty figs, that represent... whom? Our Heavenly Father didn't give us a direct statement of who the evil figs are, we were supposed to have caught that in the beginning of His Holy Writ.

Jer.24
8 And as the evil figs, which cannot be eaten, they are so evil; surely thus saith the Lord, So will I give Zedekiah the king of Judah, and his princes, and the residue of Jerusalem, that remain in this land, and them that dwell in the land of Egypt: 9 And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.
10 And I will send the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, among them, till they be consumed from off the land that I gave unto them and to their fathers.

So, who are those that were to be "a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse"?

A portion of them would remain in the land of Jerusalem, and in Egypt, and another portion of them would be scattered into all kingdoms of the earth. Those verses above are about the evil basket of figs, not the good basket of figs.

Here below is about the good basket of figs representing Judah...

Jer.24

5 Thus saith the Lord, the God of Israel; Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans for their good.
6 For I will set Mine eyes upon them for good, and I will bring them again to this land: and I will build them, and not pull them down; and I will plant them, and not pluck them up.

7 And I will give them an heart to know Me, that I am the Lord: and they shall be My people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto Me with their whole heart.



The evil basket of figs represent the 'children of darkness', Satan's servants, the "synagogue of Satan" idea our Lord Jesus pointed to in Rev.2 & 3. Most Churches are not... going to teach you this from God's Word. Afterall, it is the Churches job to bring people to Christ Jesus through Faith on Him, not teach a controversial Scripture which might instead cause a division among the potential believer. However, this matter is a very important part of God's Word. And the leaders of God's people are supposed to understand it, as it helps in keeping the wolves away from Christ's sheep and from falling into deceptions.

From the beginning, even starting with Cain, Satan has had a group of servants here on earth that bow to him in place of God. The earliest recorded history of it was with ancient Sumer which later became Babylonia and Babylon, from which pagan idol worship and all sorts of abominations manifested on earth, and made its way to the ancient Far East, to ancient Egypt, ancient Greece, Rome, India, Persia, etc. The ideas of paganism had so enveloped the majority of the earth for thousands of years that it was difficult for the nations to know of The One True God at all.

God's Israel was to be different, and instead be an example of His Light in a world of darkness controlled by Satan's children. When our Lord Jesus came and died on the cross, many nations left the darkness of paganism, and converted to The Saviour Jesus Christ. This particularly happened in the Christian west and Asia Minor. But all along, these evil figs have dwelt among Judah and Israel, and were even scattered along with them through the nations.

And now, these same evil basket of figs plan to establish their own 'king' in Jerusalem, instead of Christ Jesus, and create their own world government with Lucifer in royal garb on earth instead of Christ. Their minions on earth meet in secret behind closed doors, under the auspices of fraternities, holding to the old pagan traditions of the "mystery schools" of occult initiation. They are the "tares" of the field our Lord Jesus spoke of in Matthew 13. They are the "workers of iniquity" spoken of by the OT prophets and in the Psalms. They are the "mystery of iniquity" Apostle Paul briefly mentioned in 2 Thess.2. They are the "many antichrists" which Apostle John revealed to the brethren that they had long since already been at work.
 
FIG TREE-OLD TESTAMENT, JEWS, KNOWLEDGE
Luke 21:29-32
29 Then He spoke to them a parable: "Look at the fig tree, and all the trees.
30 "When they are already budding, you see and know for yourselves that summer is now near.
31 "So you also, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near.
32 "Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.
Matt 21:19-22
19 And seeing a fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it but leaves, and said to it, "Let no fruit grow on you ever again." And immediately the fig tree withered away.
20 And when the disciples saw it, they marveled, saying, "How did the fig tree wither away so soon?"
21 So Jesus answered and said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, 'Be removed and be cast into the sea,' it will be done.
22 "And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."
Luke 13:6-9
6 He also spoke this parable: "A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it and found none.
7 "Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, 'Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?'
8 "But he answered and said to him, 'Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize it.
9 'And if it bears fruit, well. But if not, after that you can cut it down.' "
Mark 11:13-14
13 And seeing from afar a fig tree having leaves, He went to see if perhaps He would find something on it. And when He came to it, He found nothing but leaves, for it was not the season for figs.
14 In response Jesus said to it, "Let no one eat fruit from you ever again." And His disciples heard it.
James 3:12-13
12 Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring can yield both salt water and fresh.
13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.
John 6:53-58
53 Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you.
54 "Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 "For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed.
56 "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him.
57 "As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me.
58 "This is the bread which came down from heaven-- not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever."
John 10:1-9
1 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
2 "But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 "To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
4 "And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice.
5 "Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers."
6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.
7 Then Jesus said to them again, "Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
(NKJ)
XXX There is nothing in the old testament that can help us now. You can feed on the old testament or the new testament. But you can only bear fruit from the new testament.
 
There is nothing in the old testament that can help us now. You can feed on the old testament or the new testament. But you can only bear fruit from the new testament.

Sorry, but that's simply not true.

2 Peter 3
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

The reason many brethren misinterpret so much in the New Testament Scripture, or are misled by others, is because they aren't "mindful" of the Old Testament Scripture, especially "the holy prophets" Peter mentioned.
 
Sorry, but that's simply not true.

2 Peter 3
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

The reason many brethren misinterpret so much in the New Testament Scripture, or are misled by others, is because they aren't "mindful" of the Old Testament Scripture, especially "the holy prophets" Peter mentioned.

I said
Well you do have a right to your opinion. But I believe Jesus.

John 10:7-9
7 Then Jesus said to them again, "Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
(NKJ)
 
I said
Well you do have a right to your opinion. But I believe Jesus.

John 10:7-9
7 Then Jesus said to them again, "Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
(NKJ)

You mean Apostle Peter has a right to his opinion, because I didn't say it, he did.

And I believe what my Lord Jesus said in His Word, and also His prophets and Apostles.
 
You mean Apostle Peter has a right to his opinion, because I didn't say it, he did.

And I believe what my Lord Jesus said in His Word, and also His prophets and Apostles.

I said
It all has to do with context. Peter showed you the words of the prophets in the next verse. Now Jesus and the apostles brought over part of the old testament to the new testament. Which then they become part of the new testament. Once they become a part of the new testament they are accepted as new testament.
2 Pet 3:1-6
1 Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder),
2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior,
3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts,
4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation."
5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water,
6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.
(NKJ)
 
Yes I think the concept of trees and fruit has universal application, even as far back as Genesis where we have the tree of life and the tree of knowledge.
Fruit signifies pleasure or satisfaction of hunger - a tree without fruit means something or someone that gives Christ no pleasure or satisfaction and leaves Him hungry.
I hope my explanation was not too complex, I tried to frame it around the context of the surrounding passages pointing towards Jesus's redemption. I do have a simpler version - I once said in a Christian forum similar to this one, that Jesus cursed the fig tree simply because He was hungry and wanted something to eat and probably had low blood sugar (which normally makes one a little angry), but no one really liked that because it showed that Jesus was a human being. I think there is both a very human side and a spiritual side to this story.

Of course scriptures, Old and New, are all important. I think we should agree what is the revelancy now, under the New Covenant. The cursing of the fig tree is now symbolic of the judgement of man, when those who do not have the spirit of God in them ( non-believers) and baring no fruit of Christ, will ultimately be separated, cursed and burned in the fires of Hell.
The Bible at times likens people to fruit trees or grapevines and portrays God as the owner of the orchards and vineyards. The Master knows our character by our spiritual fruits, just as "a tree is known [identified] by its fruit"—either good or bad Matthew 12:33
 
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Of course scriptures, Old and New, are all important. I think we should agree what is the revelancy now, under the New Covenant. The cursing of the fig tree is now symbolic of the judgement of man, when those who do not have the spirit of God in them ( non-believers) and baring no fruit of Christ, will ultimately be separated, cursed and burned in the fires of Hell.
The Bible at times likens people to fruit trees or grapevines and portrays God as the owner of the orchards and vineyards. The Master knows our character by our spiritual fruits, just as "a tree is known [identified] by its fruit"—either good or bad Matthew 12:33

I said
I can agree with that.
 
I said
It all has to do with context. Peter showed you the words of the prophets in the next verse. Now Jesus and the apostles brought over part of the old testament to the new testament. Which then they become part of the new testament. Once they become a part of the new testament they are accepted as new testament.

That really does not make sense. The OT is not only about God's law and the Old Covenant. You're confusing the label "Old Testament" with the idea of the Old Covenant. What's covered in the OT prophets covers the time before the foundations of the world all the way to Christ's coming and into God's future Eternity. Quite a lot of it has yet to come to pass today.

When OT prophecy was quoted within the New Testament, it was either to show a prophecy that was fulfilled or being fulfilled, or soon to be fulfilled, or that would be fulfilled some time in the future, even into the time of God's Eternity. And for this reason Apostle Peter adominished us to be "mindful" of the words written by the holy prophets, i.e., the Old Testament prophets.
 
That really does not make sense. The OT is not only about God's law and the Old Covenant. You're confusing the label "Old Testament" with the idea of the Old Covenant. What's covered in the OT prophets covers the time before the foundations of the world all the way to Christ's coming and into God's future Eternity. Quite a lot of it has yet to come to pass today.

When OT prophecy was quoted within the New Testament, it was either to show a prophecy that was fulfilled or being fulfilled, or soon to be fulfilled, or that would be fulfilled some time in the future, even into the time of God's Eternity. And for this reason Apostle Peter adominished us to be "mindful" of the words written by the holy prophets, i.e., the Old Testament prophets.

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Your trying to base a conclusion on only one verse. Every verse is a principle, and it takes many principles to make a conclusion.
And the definition of testament is covenant.

1242 diatheke (dee-ath-ay'-kay);
from 1303; properly, a disposition, i.e. (specially) a contract (especially a devisory will):
KJV-- covenant, testament.
 
I said
Your trying to base a conclusion on only one verse. Every verse is a principle, and it takes many principles to make a conclusion.
And the definition of testament is covenant.

1242 diatheke (dee-ath-ay'-kay);
from 1303; properly, a disposition, i.e. (specially) a contract (especially a devisory will):
KJV-- covenant, testament.

I'm not basing what I said on that sole verse from Peter. Any serious Bible student familiar within all of God's Word of both Old and New Testament Books understands what I'm saying.

Look in the latter chapters of the Book of Isaiah about the new heavens and a new earth prophecy, and try to tell me I'm wrong, or that Peter was wrong. Nor is there enough space here to show you all the times in the New Testament that our Lord Jesus and His Apostles quoted prophecy from the OT prophets about events still yet to come today! So why have you closed your heart and mind to this matter?
 
I'm not basing what I said on that sole verse from Peter. Any serious Bible student familiar within all of God's Word of both Old and New Testament Books understands what I'm saying.

Look in the latter chapters of the Book of Isaiah about the new heavens and a new earth prophecy, and try to tell me I'm wrong, or that Peter was wrong. Nor is there enough space here to show you all the times in the New Testament that our Lord Jesus and His Apostles quoted prophecy from the OT prophets about events still yet to come today! So why have you closed your heart and mind to this matter?

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I think your running off on a tangent. As a new testament believer I know the prophesies will take place so I don't have to go back and read them. My focus is on the new testament and working out my salvation. Now satan can quote old testament so I don't trust the old testament. That is why it says the old testament has a veil over it that remains to this day.

2 Cor 3:14-15
14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.
15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.
(NKJ)
And anyone who attempts to be justified by the old testament has fallen from grace.

Luke 16:16
16 "The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.
(NKJ)
Matt 11:12-13
12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
13 "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
(NKJ)
Gal 5:4
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)
And anyway if a person doesn't abide(live) in the new testament he doesn't have the right God or the right Jesus.

II Jn 1:7-11
7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)
So if you bring me any other doctrine than the new testament I cant even greet you.
 
I think your running off on a tangent. As a new testament believer I know the prophesies will take place so I don't have to go back and read them. My focus is on the new testament and working out my salvation. Now satan can quote old testament so I don't trust the old testament. That is why it says the old testament has a veil over it that remains to this day.

To know what those prophecies quoted in the New Testament from the Old Testament, one must go back and study them.

You contradict Apostle Paul with your reasoning on the matter:

1 Cor.10
11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

In that Apostle Paul was giving examples from the Old Testament, and said they are written "for our adomonition". So when he quoted from OT Scripture, he obviously meant for us to go back and read it.

You've also terribly misunderstood Paul when he said those of the Jews that refuse Christ Jesus still have a veil over their understanding WHEN they read the Old Testament. Paul NEVER said that the Old Testament is that veil, nor that a veil is over it. It's just the opposite for the believer on Christ Jesus, the Old Testament Scripture is 'opened up' to us in understanding just as much with the New Testament Scripture.

I don't know what idiot taught you to hate the Old Testament Scriptures, but they do The Father and His Son a major disservice and will have their reward for that when our Lord Jesus returns.
 
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To know what those prophecies quoted in the New Testament from the Old Testament, one must go back and study them.

You contradict Apostle Paul with your reasoning on the matter:

1 Cor.10
11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
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That admonition is to not be like the Jews. If they had done anything right Jesus wouldn't of had to come. And it makes no difference on any of the prophesies. There going to come true. We cant change that.
 
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