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[james1523]

Jesus the Christ, traveled through Time, from Heaven,
which is a dimension, to this world, which is another dimension.
By the way of the union, between flesh and blood and the Holy Ghost.

Hold up there Einstein. Jesus never traveled through time, because He has always existed outside of time (John 1:1). He came from outside of time, into our time.

 

[james1523]

You were begotten, just not by God,
and you do not know how long anyone else,
nor yourself, existed, before or after, you became aware of your own existence.

As BAC said, we didn't always exist, only Jesus has that status. That is because only Jesus came from Heaven, but we come from the Earth.

 

[james1523]

We were created. You could even say we were created by Jesus. Unlike Jesus we didn't always exist. We weren't begotten.
The natural body comes before the spiritual body. 1 Cor 15:44;

Technically, only Adam and Eve were created. Everyone else was born. We were created by Jesus by way of birth (many in fact) from Adam.

 

[james1523]

The Carnal Mind

The Mind of the Spirit
The bible says nothing, it is a book, it has no life.
What does the Spirit of truth say? The Spirit of truth is a Spirit. It is alive.
It is the way, the life, the truth

Did you know that the mind of the Spirit is in fact the mind of a man (1 Cor 2:16)? This is because the man became Spirit (2 Cor 3:17, 1 Cor 15:45). The Spirit doesn't have a mind per se, because the Spirit has no brain. Only men have brains, therefore the mind of the Spirit is the mind of a man, mixed with the Spirit of God.

 

[JTC]

Hold up there Einstein. Jesus never traveled through time, because He has always existed outside of time (John 1:1). He came from outside of time, into our time.

Jesus came from heaven into this world. True or false?

 

[JTC]

As BAC said, we didn't always exist, only Jesus has that status. That is because only Jesus came from Heaven, but we come from the Earth.

Bac, does not know what he is talking about, and neither do you.

 

[james1523]

Jesus came from heaven into this world. True or false?

True. Yet that is not called time travel. Do you say you time travel if you travel from London to New York, and change the time on your watch ? Similarly, Jesus travelled from heaven to Earth. But did not time travel.
Please look up the basic definition of time travel, you speak of something you don't understand the basic meaning of.

 

[james1523]

Bac, does not know what he is talking about, and neither do you.

That is only your opinion from your mind, so means nothing. You don't know what you are talking about because you come of yourself and have no witnesses. You need 2 or 3 witnesses. BAC and I know what we are talking about and agree. Therefore we have two witnesses, and where is your witness?

 

[JTC]

We were created by Jesus by way of birth (many in fact) from Adam.

I do not believe this you, have said. I have no problem with you believing it.

 

[JTC]

I disagree. You don't know what you are talking about because you come of yourself and have no witnesses. You need 2 or 3 witnesses. BAC and I know what we are talking about and agree. Therefore we have two witnesses, and where is your witness?

You, or no one else, on this forum, has witness anything, you have said to me.
Unless you count reading it out of a book.

 

[james1523]

You, or no one else, on this forum, has witness anything, you have said to me.

So I ask you, where is your witness? No one else on this forum has confirmed or witness what you say. The Bible says, "Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses." (2 Cor 13:1).

 

[james1523]

I do not believe this you, have said. I have no problem with you believing it.

So you deny human birth? How do you believe that human beings come into the world?

 

[JTC]

True. Yet that is not called time travel. Do you say you time travel if you travel from London to New York, and change the time on your watch ? Similarly, Jesus travelled from heaven to Earth. But did not time travel.
Please look up the basic definition of time travel, you speak of something you don't understand the basic meaning of.

I am not going to argue with you. If you want to convince those reading what I have said, is false, then have at it. I have no problem with you posting what you believe against what I believe.

 

[JTC]

So you deny human birth? How do you believe that human beings come into the world?

I am not going to argue with you. If you want to convince those reading what I have said, is false, then have at it. I have no problem with you posting what you believe against what I believe.
In fact I welcome it.

 

[JTC]

So I ask you, where is your witness? No one else on this forum has confirmed or witness what you say. The Bible says, "Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses." (2 Cor 13:1).

I am not going to argue with you. If you want to convince those reading what I have said, is false, then have at it. I have no problem with you posting what you believe against what I believe.
In fact I welcome it.

 

[james1523]

I am not going to argue with you. If you want to convince those reading what I have said, is false, then have at it. I have no problem with you posting what you believe against what I believe.

You are also one of those readers are you not? Otherwise you would not be able to reply to me. Therefore I am to convince you that your belief is wrong. However, my post is not about convincing your belief, but about correcting your definition of time travel, which is the source of your incorrect belief. Time travel, is not simply travelling from one place to another which is properly called a change of time reference. You see, time of itself does not exist, it only exists because we give it a reference. When Jesus traveled from Heaven to Earth, he only needed to change the time on his watch (figuratively speaking), from eternity to earth time, there was no true time travel involved.

 

[JTC]

You are also one of those readers are you not? Otherwise you would not be able to reply to me. Therefore I am to convince you that your belief is wrong. However, my post is not about convincing your belief, but about correcting your definition of time travel, which is the source of your incorrect belief.

I am not going to argue with you. If you want to convince those reading what I have said, is false, then have at it. I have no problem with you posting what you believe against what I believe.
In fact I welcome it.

 

[james1523]

I am not going to argue with you. If you want to convince those reading what I have said, is false, then have at it. I have no problem with you posting what you believe against what I believe.
In fact I welcome it.

You say you welcome it, yet you have replied to my previous posts with the same diversionary response, which indicates that you do not welcome it. You have also posted no statements of belief or fact, only questions, which indicates that you in fact know nothing.

 

[AnotherMember]

The Carnal Mind

The Mind of the Spirit
The bible says nothing, it is a book, it has no life.
What does the Spirit of truth say? The Spirit of truth is a Spirit. It is alive.
It is the way, the life, the truth

So Jesus is the Holy Spirit of Truth in your opinion?

Thanks.

 

[AnotherMember]

The first question I have to ask you and whoever wrote this...what is a spiritual body?

What is a spiritual body?
In the context of the passage it is written, a spiritual body is the resurrected body from the dead.