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Have YOUR OWN manifestation.

wordsponge

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Have YOUR OWN manifestation.

The following occurs after baptism calling on Jesus,
for forgiveness,
from under the water,
and the obedience to Jesus’ Teachings.

John.14
[21] He who >> has
my commandments (faith in BOTH, love and good deeds)
and >> keeps (OBEYS) them, it is he who loves me
and he who loves me shall be loved by my Father (the Highest)
and I will love him and I (the God of Israel),
will manifest myself to him.
[22] Judas saith to him,
not Iscariot,
LORD (God of Israel),
how is it that you will manifest yourself to us (Apostles),
and not to the world (the nation of Israel)?
[23] Jesus answered and said to him:
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If a man >> loves me (the God of Israel),
then he will >> keep (obey) my words (commandments):
and my Father (the Most High) will love him
and we (BOTH/ two),
will come to him and live with him.

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Play by the RULES…

2 Tim.2
[5] If any man strives for masteries,
he is still not crowned
except he strives lawfully, (according to the rules).

Pss.119
[99] I have >> more understanding
than all >> my of teachers
because your testimonies are my meditation.
[100] I understand more than
the ancients, (the disobedient Elders),
because I >> keep (obey) your precepts

May Our Father take you by the hand >>
 
This is the TRUE establishment ...
Everyone should make the effort...

Grace is being offered NOW >> JESUS..
 
Have YOUR OWN manifestation.

The following occurs after baptism calling on Jesus,
for forgiveness,
from under the water,
and the obedience to Jesus’ Teachings.

John.14
[21] He who >> has
my commandments (faith in BOTH, love and good deeds)
and >> keeps (OBEYS) them, it is he who loves me
and he who loves me shall be loved by my Father (the Highest)
and I will love him and I (the God of Israel),
will manifest myself to him.
[22] Judas saith to him,
not Iscariot,
LORD (God of Israel),
how is it that you will manifest yourself to us (Apostles),
and not to the world (the nation of Israel)?
[23] Jesus answered and said to him:
+
If a man >> loves me (the God of Israel),
then he will >> keep (obey) my words (commandments):
and my Father (the Most High) will love him
and we (BOTH/ two),
will come to him and live with him.

+
Play by the RULES…

2 Tim.2
[5] If any man strives for masteries,
he is still not crowned
except he strives lawfully, (according to the rules).

Pss.119
[99] I have >> more understanding
than all >> my of teachers
because your testimonies are my meditation.
[100] I understand more than
the ancients, (the disobedient Elders),
because I >> keep (obey) your precepts

May Our Father take you by the hand >>

@wordsponge

Can you please explain what you mean?
I don't really understand what the idea is here especially in relation to the heading of the thread.


By grace we are saved through faith and not of ourselves... it is a gift and not something for our boasting and nothing we do will change that, except believing or not believing.

Yes, come unto Jesus but not through works of obedience to laws but by faith in Him and His grace offered freely without exception to all who will believe.

I'd be interested to know what you mean in what you have posted.

Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Galatians 2:16




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Have YOUR OWN manifestation.

The following occurs after baptism calling on Jesus,
for forgiveness,
from under the water,
and the obedience to Jesus’ Teachings.

So Wordsponge, two questions:
  1. Are you saying that nothing that happens "from above water" counts regarding your salvation?
  2. In Ephesians 2:8-9 ( 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.) These verses tell me that our salvation is a gift of God and if it is a gift, it is free. This is a spiritual salvation and we therefore can personally do no physical act to make our salvation happen.....what do you say about these verses?
 
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Have YOUR OWN manifestation.

The following occurs after baptism calling on Jesus,
for forgiveness,
from under the water,
and the obedience to Jesus’ Teachings.

So Wordsponge, two questions:
  1. Are you saying that nothing that happens "from above water" counts regarding your salvation?
  2. In Ephesians 2:8-9 ( 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.) These verses tell me that our salvation is a gift of God and if it is a gift, it is free. This is a spiritual salvation and we therefore can personally do no physical act to make our salvation happen.....what do you say about these verses?
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I draw attention to what works.
You keep your attention on me.
DIGEST the following >>>
Mark.18
[2] Jesus called a little child to him,
and placed him in the midst of them (the Apostles),
[3] and he (the incarnated God of Israel) said:
Verily I say unto you (Apostles):
Except you (stiff-necked Israelites),

are converted (reformed)
and become like, (do as you’re told children), little children,
you shall not enter into the (invisible) Kingdom of Heaven.
 
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I draw attention to what works.
You keep your attention on me.
DIGEST the following >>>
Mark.18
[2] Jesus called a little child to him,
and placed him in the midst of them (the Apostles),
[3] and he (the incarnated God of Israel) said:
Verily I say unto you (Apostles):
Except you (stiff-necked Israelites),

are converted (reformed)
and become like, (do as you’re told children), little children,
you shall not enter into the (invisible) Kingdom of Heaven.
Fine but please tell me how that answers my original questions to you?
So Wordsponge, two questions:

  1. Are you saying that nothing that happens "from above water" counts regarding your salvation?
  2. In Ephesians 2:8-9 ( 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.) These verses tell me that our salvation is a gift of God and if it is a gift, it is free. This is a spiritual salvation and we therefore can personally do no physical act to make our salvation happen.....what do you say about these verses?
 
+++
I draw attention to what works.
You keep your attention on me.
DIGEST the following >>>
Mark.18
[2] Jesus called a little child to him,
and placed him in the midst of them (the Apostles),
[3] and he (the incarnated God of Israel) said:
Verily I say unto you (Apostles):
Except you (stiff-necked Israelites),

are converted (reformed)
and become like, (do as you’re told children), little children,
you shall not enter into the (invisible) Kingdom of Heaven.

Hello wordsponge.

The Gospel of Mark has only sixteen chapters, where is (Mark 18)?
 
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