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Does hebrews 10:26 trully mean what it clearly says
does god forgive willfull sin
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Not everyone has the same gifts, education, experience and understanding. While God is unchanging and His message is unchanging, each of us is in different places at different times in our natural lives and in our walk with God. What does God require of us? He requires from us in accord with what we are able to do. As we walk with God we necessarily grow. As we grow more is expected from us. This is like the natural child. A good parent teaches the child and is reasonable in the punishment, if any, administered to that child in accord with the child's age, experience and understanding. God is better than the best of natural parents. He will never be unfair. He recognizes our frailties better than we do and will always act accordingly for us or against us:
"But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Luke 12:48
When is it that we have sinned willfully? This to me means that having understood completely the error and perhaps even any resultant consequences of our contemplated action, we go ahead and act anyway. It also must certainly consider our ability or inability to control our actions.
So in the worst case, are we lost because we have willfully sinned? Consider Jesus' response to Peter's question about forgiveness:
"Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven." Matt 18:21-22
We, weak flesh that we remain are told to forgive so many times. Is not our Father even more merciful than that? Personally, I know without counting that over the years since I received the baptism of the Holy Ghost in 1976 He has forgiven me many more times than 490 (7 times 70). As long as you are worried about it, you are probably not in danger of God casting you into outer darkness, but don't be surprised if some chastisement is not forthcoming because of your sin.
But... knowing that Lord is merciful, do not be so foolish as to purposely test God by willfully sinning with the intention of repenting for it later assuming that will forgive you again.
Read the accounts of King Saul and King David. Both were anointed of God. Both sinned against God. In the end King Saul was rejected by God while King David was not. Were any of David's sins willful? Don't worry about the answer. Just ask yourself the question as you read the scriptures and pray about it. God will not put more on you than you are able...with His help... to bear.
"But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Luke 12:48
When is it that we have sinned willfully? This to me means that having understood completely the error and perhaps even any resultant consequences of our contemplated action, we go ahead and act anyway. It also must certainly consider our ability or inability to control our actions.
So in the worst case, are we lost because we have willfully sinned? Consider Jesus' response to Peter's question about forgiveness:
"Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven." Matt 18:21-22
We, weak flesh that we remain are told to forgive so many times. Is not our Father even more merciful than that? Personally, I know without counting that over the years since I received the baptism of the Holy Ghost in 1976 He has forgiven me many more times than 490 (7 times 70). As long as you are worried about it, you are probably not in danger of God casting you into outer darkness, but don't be surprised if some chastisement is not forthcoming because of your sin.
But... knowing that Lord is merciful, do not be so foolish as to purposely test God by willfully sinning with the intention of repenting for it later assuming that will forgive you again.
Read the accounts of King Saul and King David. Both were anointed of God. Both sinned against God. In the end King Saul was rejected by God while King David was not. Were any of David's sins willful? Don't worry about the answer. Just ask yourself the question as you read the scriptures and pray about it. God will not put more on you than you are able...with His help... to bear.
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Does Hebrews 10:26 mean that a believer can lose salvation?
“For if we are willfully sinning after receiving the full knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice concerning sins.”Hebrews 10:26-29 warns against the sin of apostasy. Apostasy is an intentional falling away or defection. Apostates are those who move toward Christ, right up to the edge of saving belief, who hear and understand the Gospel, and are on the verge of saving faith, but then reject what they have learned and turn away. These are people who are perhaps even aware of their sin and even make a profession of faith. But rather than going on to spiritual maturity, their interest in Christ begins to diminish, the things of the world have more attraction to them rather than less, and eventually they lose all desire for the things of God and they turn away. The Lord illustrated these types of people in the second and third soils of Matthew 13:1-9,18-23. These are those who “receive with joy” the things of the Lord, but who are drawn away by the cares of the world or turned off by difficulties they encounter because of Christ.
“Willful sinning” in this passage carries the idea of consciously and deliberately rejecting Christ. To know God’s way, to hear it preached, to study it, to count oneself among the faithful, and then to turn away is to become apostate. Sinning willfully carries with it the idea of sinning continually and deliberately. Such a person does not sin because of ignorance, nor is he carried away by momentary temptations he is too weak to resist. The willful sinner sins because of an established way of thinking and acting which he has no desire to give up. The true believer, on the other hand, is one who lapses into sin and loses temporary fellowship with God. But he will eventually come back to God in repentance because his heavenly Father will continually woo and convict him until he can’t stay away any longer. The true apostate will continue to sin, deliberately, willingly and with abandon. John tells us that “No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him and he cannot sin, because he is born of God” (1 John 3:9).
Apostates have knowledge, but no application of that knowledge. They can be found in the presence of the light of Christ, mostly in the church, among God’s people. Judas Iscariot is the perfect example—he had knowledge but he lacked true faith. No other rejector of the truth had more or better exposure to the love and grace of God than Judas. He was part of Jesus’ inner circle of disciples, eating, sleeping, and traveling with Him for years. He saw the miracles and heard the words of God from Jesus’ very lips, from the best preacher the world has ever known, and yet he not only turned away but was instrumental in the plot to kill Jesus.
Having turned his back on the truth, and with full knowledge choosing to willfully and continually sin, the apostate is then beyond salvation because he has rejected the one true sacrifice for sins: the Lord Jesus Christ. If Christ’s sacrifice is rejected, then all hope of salvation is gone. To turn away willfully from this sacrifice leaves no sacrifice; it leaves only sin, the penalty for which is eternal death. This passage is not speaking of a believer who falls away, but rather someone who may claim to be a believer, but truly is not. Anyone who apostatizes is proving he never had genuine faith to begin with (1 John 2:19).
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“For if we are willfully sinning after receiving the full knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice concerning sins.”Hebrews 10:26-29 warns against the sin of apostasy. Apostasy is an intentional falling away or defection. Apostates are those who move toward Christ, right up to the edge of saving belief, who hear and understand the Gospel, and are on the verge of saving faith, but then reject what they have learned and turn away. These are people who are perhaps even aware of their sin and even make a profession of faith. But rather than going on to spiritual maturity, their interest in Christ begins to diminish, the things of the world have more attraction to them rather than less, and eventually they lose all desire for the things of God and they turn away. The Lord illustrated these types of people in the second and third soils of Matthew 13:1-9,18-23. These are those who “receive with joy” the things of the Lord, but who are drawn away by the cares of the world or turned off by difficulties they encounter because of Christ.
“Willful sinning” in this passage carries the idea of consciously and deliberately rejecting Christ. To know God’s way, to hear it preached, to study it, to count oneself among the faithful, and then to turn away is to become apostate. Sinning willfully carries with it the idea of sinning continually and deliberately. Such a person does not sin because of ignorance, nor is he carried away by momentary temptations he is too weak to resist. The willful sinner sins because of an established way of thinking and acting which he has no desire to give up. The true believer, on the other hand, is one who lapses into sin and loses temporary fellowship with God. But he will eventually come back to God in repentance because his heavenly Father will continually woo and convict him until he can’t stay away any longer. The true apostate will continue to sin, deliberately, willingly and with abandon. John tells us that “No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him and he cannot sin, because he is born of God” (1 John 3:9).
Apostates have knowledge, but no application of that knowledge. They can be found in the presence of the light of Christ, mostly in the church, among God’s people. Judas Iscariot is the perfect example—he had knowledge but he lacked true faith. No other rejector of the truth had more or better exposure to the love and grace of God than Judas. He was part of Jesus’ inner circle of disciples, eating, sleeping, and traveling with Him for years. He saw the miracles and heard the words of God from Jesus’ very lips, from the best preacher the world has ever known, and yet he not only turned away but was instrumental in the plot to kill Jesus.
Having turned his back on the truth, and with full knowledge choosing to willfully and continually sin, the apostate is then beyond salvation because he has rejected the one true sacrifice for sins: the Lord Jesus Christ. If Christ’s sacrifice is rejected, then all hope of salvation is gone. To turn away willfully from this sacrifice leaves no sacrifice; it leaves only sin, the penalty for which is eternal death. This passage is not speaking of a believer who falls away, but rather someone who may claim to be a believer, but truly is not. Anyone who apostatizes is proving he never had genuine faith to begin with (1 John 2:19).
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I wamt to thank everyone for there responses and share what I have learned it seems that if the writer of this passage includess himself in this act of willfull sinning it is a real possibility for a believer to fail the grace of God this idea would be backed up by another similar passage*[[Heb 6:3-6]] KJV* %v 3% And this will we do, if God permit. %v 4% For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, %v 5% And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, %v 6% If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame... I took the liberty of sharing the definition of falling awayStrong's Definition: From G3844 and G4098; to fall aside, that is, (figuratively) to apostatize:
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And readimg further along it seems this act only has to be done once "willfull sinning" this would be in accordance with .....*[[Heb 12:15-17]] KJV* %v 15% Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; %v 16% Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. %v 17% For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
Hi believetheword,
You quoted several scripture including Heb 6:3-6 and Heb 12:15-17, all of which support each other.
Another scripture we can add is 2Pet 2:12-22
But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime.
They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man’s voice restrained the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment (to believe on Jesus) delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”
This is a description of the willful sinner.
They have rejected Christ, after having known him, and turned back to the law to prove their righteousness. These willful sinners even try to lure others away with them.
How does one make themselves a sinner?
Gal 2:18.
For if I build again those things which I destroyed (righteousness by works of the law), I make myself a transgressor/Sinner
We see many scriptures warning us against turning back to the law to determine righteousness.
Jesus warned to beware the leaven of the pharisees/Sadducees, Matt 16. "Leaven" being their doctrine of righteousness by works of the law, Matt 16:12.
We see a similar warning in Gal 5:9.
A little leaven (doctrine of righteousness by works of the law, Matt 16:12) leavens the whole lump.
We are to purge out the old leaven, 1Cor 5:7.
We are not even to associate with such people as they're spiritual fornicators who are fornicating with Hagar (righteousness by works of the law, Gal 4:24).
1Cor 5:9
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
1Cor 5:13
Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
God's will is our sanctification and that we abstain from fornication (with Hagar).
1Thess 4:3
For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
To fornicate with Hagar (righteousness by works of the law, Gal 4:24), after having known Christ, then this is willful sin from which there is no way for repentance.
Hence why we see scripture saying we should exhort each other (Heb 3:13
to continue to believe on Jesus and not be lured by the lusts of the flesh to fornicate with Hagar/return to the law for righteousness (which is unbelief, the sin the world is convicted of, John 16:9).
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30) But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
31) Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken His commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.
Numbers 14:30-31
Presumptuously in Hebrew is yad meaning with a high hand with a raised, clenched fist in defiance of God, and His commands. This is the OT passage parallel of this passage in Hebrews.
And IMO just as in Hebrews 6:3-5; this is speaking to those who wanted to say in good standing of the Jewish OT and after accepting the Blood of Jesus for the price of their sins, went back to the Old Covenant of Animal Sacrifices, And thus shake their hand in defiance at the Blood of the everlasting Covenant (Hebrews 13:20).
26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.
27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28) He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29) Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who had trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the Blood of the Covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of Grace?
Hebrews 10:26-29
When we read Hebrews 10:14-18 along with John 19:30 we see that in Jesus Christ all sacrifice for sin(s) was finished once and for all. The Book of Hebrews was written to Jewish Christians when the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem was still standing the Writer of this Book was warning the Jewish Christian or if you rather the Messianic Jew that to offer animal sacrifices for sins, that Christ Jesus had already cover under His precious Blood (Acts 20:28; I Peter 1:18-19) was the highest and most unforgivable sin one could commit; it was to trodden under foot the Son of God ... counted the Blood of the Covenant ... an unholy thing...done despite unto the Spirit of Grace?
31) Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken His commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.
Numbers 14:30-31
Presumptuously in Hebrew is yad meaning with a high hand with a raised, clenched fist in defiance of God, and His commands. This is the OT passage parallel of this passage in Hebrews.
And IMO just as in Hebrews 6:3-5; this is speaking to those who wanted to say in good standing of the Jewish OT and after accepting the Blood of Jesus for the price of their sins, went back to the Old Covenant of Animal Sacrifices, And thus shake their hand in defiance at the Blood of the everlasting Covenant (Hebrews 13:20).
26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.
27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28) He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29) Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who had trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the Blood of the Covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of Grace?
Hebrews 10:26-29
When we read Hebrews 10:14-18 along with John 19:30 we see that in Jesus Christ all sacrifice for sin(s) was finished once and for all. The Book of Hebrews was written to Jewish Christians when the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem was still standing the Writer of this Book was warning the Jewish Christian or if you rather the Messianic Jew that to offer animal sacrifices for sins, that Christ Jesus had already cover under His precious Blood (Acts 20:28; I Peter 1:18-19) was the highest and most unforgivable sin one could commit; it was to trodden under foot the Son of God ... counted the Blood of the Covenant ... an unholy thing...done despite unto the Spirit of Grace?
