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Is It True.
Or is it make-believe.
Or is it make-believe.
The Coming New World Order
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very very true...its written.....just look at todays events and what the bible says....
I believe there are Very bad times coming to the whole world and great suffering to the United states. I think we will either join together to attack Israel or more likely be destroyed pretty much .
We are in real trouble here , It appears not enough see it?
We killing our babies and pushing the gay life . and going to war for no good reason and so many have been living off the Government and we been bankrupt.
Most hate Christians now , The churches mostly are run like any other business. The goal is money. Few are being healed or set free or helped?
The church appears asleep?
Nothing like when it first started .
The true unseen church is the Most powerful force on earth . But it not being taught it place in the kingdom as a whole?
We have the spiritual knowledge and weapons to conqueror. we have GOD Own spirit which is His power. The Power that Created all things that were ever Created. We Not lacking anything but the correct understanding.
Hard for me too look down on any , Because I not living it perfectly. Even if I was ? I still could Not ever look down on my Holy Brothers and sisters in our LORD JESUS.
I feel sure in my heart , The United states Does Not have even 10 years , I think lots less ?
We need to reach as many as we can to be born again or at least Plant those seeds within them ,so they can be during the Great Tribulation which is near i believe.
We are in real trouble here , It appears not enough see it?
We killing our babies and pushing the gay life . and going to war for no good reason and so many have been living off the Government and we been bankrupt.
Most hate Christians now , The churches mostly are run like any other business. The goal is money. Few are being healed or set free or helped?
The church appears asleep?
Nothing like when it first started .
The true unseen church is the Most powerful force on earth . But it not being taught it place in the kingdom as a whole?
We have the spiritual knowledge and weapons to conqueror. we have GOD Own spirit which is His power. The Power that Created all things that were ever Created. We Not lacking anything but the correct understanding.
Hard for me too look down on any , Because I not living it perfectly. Even if I was ? I still could Not ever look down on my Holy Brothers and sisters in our LORD JESUS.
I feel sure in my heart , The United states Does Not have even 10 years , I think lots less ?
We need to reach as many as we can to be born again or at least Plant those seeds within them ,so they can be during the Great Tribulation which is near i believe.
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spirit1st..i totally agree with your statement...im hearing a whole lot about EMP attack and warnings in section 3 which is Wv,Pa,Md.Va and Delaware..now i dont know if this is really true or not..but the wold is falling apart..flooking,earthquakes,famines,tornadoes ect....to me it is really leading up to the one world order...Cant wait to go Home..GOd bless
Yes it Very Quick. Our flesh body does not have time to hit the ground and we are already Home[New Jerusalem] Our spirit is so happy to be free of this weak flesh. Our flesh is like having a child . always needing to do something or wanting something or suffering?
He has Brand New Perfect bodies like His awaiting us. That never suffer or needs anything.
Php_1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
But the LORD wants us here now. To help others spiritually or carnally? Planting seeds of Truth .
You know the words you speak about scriptures will affect others later also. That why He says? our works do fellow.
Rev_14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
We can be gone from the planet many many years and still our works keep following?
Just like here ? Chad can leave in the Catching away and someone else keep the site going and Chad works and others who posted could keep leading people to JESUS .
He has Brand New Perfect bodies like His awaiting us. That never suffer or needs anything.
Php_1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
But the LORD wants us here now. To help others spiritually or carnally? Planting seeds of Truth .
You know the words you speak about scriptures will affect others later also. That why He says? our works do fellow.
Rev_14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
We can be gone from the planet many many years and still our works keep following?
Just like here ? Chad can leave in the Catching away and someone else keep the site going and Chad works and others who posted could keep leading people to JESUS .
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NWO is definitely real.
One world bank and government
Chip implants inside our bodies
The final anti christ is the one who will rule the entire world for 3 1/2 years.
Book of Daniel and book of Revelation has all the details.
Natural disasters is an obvious sign of end times, hence additional evidence of prophecy being fulfilled rather quickly.
The Internet in my opinion was a huge leap forth toward this as well.
One world bank and government
Chip implants inside our bodies
The final anti christ is the one who will rule the entire world for 3 1/2 years.
Book of Daniel and book of Revelation has all the details.
Natural disasters is an obvious sign of end times, hence additional evidence of prophecy being fulfilled rather quickly.
The Internet in my opinion was a huge leap forth toward this as well.
Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
•• Matthew 24:4-14
•• Matthew 24:4-14
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A few examples... this is pretty broad, so I doubt it will all get covered.
Rev 13:15; And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.
Rev 13:16; And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
Rev 13:17; and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18; Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
People on the earth during this time will be forced to worship the beast.
If you want to buy or sell anything, you will have to take the number on your right hand or forehead. (Of course once you do this, you are doomed for eternity).
Rev 14:9; Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
Rev 14:10; he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
Rev 14:11; "And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."
Rev 17:12; "The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour.
Rev 17:13; "These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast.
It appears that these ten kings (there is much debate over who they might be) will give their kingdoms over to the beast. Increasing his power and authority on the earth. (for a short time)
All authority was given to Jesus, but it seems he relinquishes part of it for a short time.
Rev 13:7; It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.
Rev 13:8; All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.
Rev 17:16; "And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire.
Rev 17:17; "For God has put it in their hearts to execute His purpose by having a common purpose, and by giving their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God will be fulfilled.
Rev 17:18; "The woman whom you saw is the great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth."
There is also much debate about who the harlot city might be. But wherever it is, it apparently will "reign over all of the kings of the earth".
However the ten kings and the beast will (make war upon?) take the power away from the harlot and leave her naked and desolate.
Rev 18:2; And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev 18:3; "For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality."
Rev 18:4; I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;
Rev 18:5; for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
It appears that any Christians that are in Babylon, will be taken out before the plagues of destruction are sent.
Rev 18:8; "For this reason in one day her plagues will come, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for the Lord God who judges her is strong.
Rev 18:9; "And the kings of the earth, who committed acts of immorality and lived sensuously with her, will weep and lament over her when they see the smoke of her burning,
Rev 18:10; standing at a distance because of the fear of her torment, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For in one hour your judgment has come.'
Rev 18:12; cargoes of gold and silver and precious stones and pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet, and every kind of citron wood and every article of ivory and every article made from very costly wood and bronze and iron and marble,
Rev 18:13; and cinnamon and spice and incense and perfume and frankincense and wine and olive oil and fine flour and wheat and cattle and sheep, and cargoes of horses and chariots and slaves and human lives.
Rev 18:14; "The fruit you long for has gone from you, and all things that were luxurious and splendid have passed away from you and men will no longer find them.
It will be either very difficult or impossible for most people to buy extravagant things during this time.
Rev 18:24; "And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth."
Rev 19:3; And a second time they said, "Hallelujah! HER SMOKE RISES UP FOREVER AND EVER."
There will be some people saved during the tribulation.
Rev 7:13; Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?"
Rev 7:14; I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7:15; "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.
Apparently many will be beheaded (martyred) for their faith during the tribulation.
Rev 20:4; Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Whether there is a rapture, or whether it happens before the tribulation also much debated. But if it happens, you should be ready for it.
Luke 17:31; "On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in the house must not go down to take them out; and likewise the one who is in the field must not turn back.
Luke 17:32; "Remember Lot's wife.
Food will be very expensive during this time.
Rev 6:6; And I heard something like a voice in the center of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not damage the oil and the wine."
Some Bible translation say it will take a days wages for a loaf of bread.
There are always wars and earthquakes, probably have been since the beginning. But it appears they will get worse.
Matt 24:6; "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.
Matt 24:7; "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes.
Matt 24:8; "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.
Matt 24:10; "At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another.
Matt 24:12; "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.
Matt 24:13; "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.
2 Pet 3:14; Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,
Jude 1:21; keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life.
It appears this won't happen until the Gospel is preached all over the earth, but I have to believe with all the missionaries, and radio, and cell phones, and the internet, and television, this time is approaching very quickly.
Matt 24:14; "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Matt 24:15; "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
There is a lot of debate about the abomination of desolation also. It is mentioned in Matt 24:15; Daniel 11:31; Daniel 12:11; and Mark 13:14;
If you ask me, the verses below apply for the world today.
2 Tim 3:1; But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.
2 Tim 3:2; For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy,
2 Tim 3:3; unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,
2 Tim 3:4; treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
2 Tim 3:5; holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these.
2 Pet 3:3; Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts,
2 Pet 3:4; and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation."
We already see many "clergy" and "preachers" advocating same sex marriage or no marriage at all. Some preach that everyone is going to heaven. People will look for this.
2 Tim 4:3; For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
2 Tim 3:13; But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
The good news is that in the last days, the Lord will give us more knowledge about the "hidden things".
Dan 12:4; "But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase."
Rev 13:15; And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.
Rev 13:16; And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
Rev 13:17; and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18; Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
People on the earth during this time will be forced to worship the beast.
If you want to buy or sell anything, you will have to take the number on your right hand or forehead. (Of course once you do this, you are doomed for eternity).
Rev 14:9; Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
Rev 14:10; he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
Rev 14:11; "And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."
Rev 17:12; "The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour.
Rev 17:13; "These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast.
It appears that these ten kings (there is much debate over who they might be) will give their kingdoms over to the beast. Increasing his power and authority on the earth. (for a short time)
All authority was given to Jesus, but it seems he relinquishes part of it for a short time.
Rev 13:7; It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.
Rev 13:8; All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.
Rev 17:16; "And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire.
Rev 17:17; "For God has put it in their hearts to execute His purpose by having a common purpose, and by giving their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God will be fulfilled.
Rev 17:18; "The woman whom you saw is the great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth."
There is also much debate about who the harlot city might be. But wherever it is, it apparently will "reign over all of the kings of the earth".
However the ten kings and the beast will (make war upon?) take the power away from the harlot and leave her naked and desolate.
Rev 18:2; And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev 18:3; "For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality."
Rev 18:4; I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;
Rev 18:5; for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.
It appears that any Christians that are in Babylon, will be taken out before the plagues of destruction are sent.
Rev 18:8; "For this reason in one day her plagues will come, pestilence and mourning and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for the Lord God who judges her is strong.
Rev 18:9; "And the kings of the earth, who committed acts of immorality and lived sensuously with her, will weep and lament over her when they see the smoke of her burning,
Rev 18:10; standing at a distance because of the fear of her torment, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For in one hour your judgment has come.'
Rev 18:12; cargoes of gold and silver and precious stones and pearls and fine linen and purple and silk and scarlet, and every kind of citron wood and every article of ivory and every article made from very costly wood and bronze and iron and marble,
Rev 18:13; and cinnamon and spice and incense and perfume and frankincense and wine and olive oil and fine flour and wheat and cattle and sheep, and cargoes of horses and chariots and slaves and human lives.
Rev 18:14; "The fruit you long for has gone from you, and all things that were luxurious and splendid have passed away from you and men will no longer find them.
It will be either very difficult or impossible for most people to buy extravagant things during this time.
Rev 18:24; "And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth."
Rev 19:3; And a second time they said, "Hallelujah! HER SMOKE RISES UP FOREVER AND EVER."
There will be some people saved during the tribulation.
Rev 7:13; Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?"
Rev 7:14; I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7:15; "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.
Apparently many will be beheaded (martyred) for their faith during the tribulation.
Rev 20:4; Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Whether there is a rapture, or whether it happens before the tribulation also much debated. But if it happens, you should be ready for it.
Luke 17:31; "On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in the house must not go down to take them out; and likewise the one who is in the field must not turn back.
Luke 17:32; "Remember Lot's wife.
Food will be very expensive during this time.
Rev 6:6; And I heard something like a voice in the center of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not damage the oil and the wine."
Some Bible translation say it will take a days wages for a loaf of bread.
There are always wars and earthquakes, probably have been since the beginning. But it appears they will get worse.
Matt 24:6; "You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end.
Matt 24:7; "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes.
Matt 24:8; "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.
Matt 24:10; "At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another.
Matt 24:12; "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.
Matt 24:13; "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.
2 Pet 3:14; Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless,
Jude 1:21; keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life.
It appears this won't happen until the Gospel is preached all over the earth, but I have to believe with all the missionaries, and radio, and cell phones, and the internet, and television, this time is approaching very quickly.
Matt 24:14; "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Matt 24:15; "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
There is a lot of debate about the abomination of desolation also. It is mentioned in Matt 24:15; Daniel 11:31; Daniel 12:11; and Mark 13:14;
If you ask me, the verses below apply for the world today.
2 Tim 3:1; But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.
2 Tim 3:2; For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy,
2 Tim 3:3; unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,
2 Tim 3:4; treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
2 Tim 3:5; holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these.
2 Pet 3:3; Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts,
2 Pet 3:4; and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation."
We already see many "clergy" and "preachers" advocating same sex marriage or no marriage at all. Some preach that everyone is going to heaven. People will look for this.
2 Tim 4:3; For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
2 Tim 3:13; But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
The good news is that in the last days, the Lord will give us more knowledge about the "hidden things".
Dan 12:4; "But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase."
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What does the New World Order mean? Much of what has been written or spoken about it is conspiracy theory, as seen by the media or most in the church. But following the book, The Power Elite, by sociologist C. Wright Mills, published in 1956, there has grown up an academic literature by professors on topics such as the Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. Neither sociologist C. Wright Mills nor the academics who followed him in studying some aspects of the ruling elite dealt with many of the other topics concerning the ruling elite and "The New World Order" that "conspiracy theorists" deal with.
Academic Antony C. Sutton in 1983 put out another book about the ruling elite - America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones. This one, however, did not spark as much interest among the professors in the ivy towers as did the book by Texas sociologist C. Wright Mills. Mills did not operate out of Texas; he attained to tenured professorship at Columbia University.
Making Bible prophecy, which is in the language of metaphor, into literal chips in the hand or forehead, or making the spirit of anti-Christ in I John 4: 3 into one super Anti-Christ as a political leader of the
"New World Order" is not likely to be put down by the media or the church as conspiracy theory. If you follow Paul, rather than man-made theology, literalizing Revelation 13: 11-18 into chips in the hand as the mark of the beast, or some similar literal thing for the image of the beast is making Bible prophecy into fables as he says in II Timothy 4: 3-4.
Revelation 13: 11- 18 is metaphor about the work of the second beast of Revelation 13, often called the False Prophet, who stands for the many false prophets of Matthew 24: 11. Revelation 13: 14 says, for example, that the second beast causes people to make an image to the beast which had the wound by the sword, and did live.
While literalizing the mark and image of the beast, the cues in Revelation 13: 2 about the first beast being like a leopard, a bear and a lion, which do have something to do with literal worldly governments in our time, are missed.
If the reference to the leopard, the bear and the lion are recognized as three of the four beasts of Daniel 7: 4-8, but these beasts are interpreted to be the same kingdoms as in Daniel 2, then this clue about the governments in our time, which might lead up to something like what is meant by the "New World Order" is lost because the four kingdoms in Daniel 2 all began before the Cross. The last kingdom of Daniel 2, the Roman Empire morphed into the first post-Cross empire, the Holy Roman Empire. The world empires of England, Russia, Nazi Germany and the fourth and dreadful beast of Daniel 7 do not exist in a Daniel 7 interpreted to be the Babylonian, Persian, Greek and Roman Empires. So fables exist instead of some prophecy about a first beast of Revelation 13 which is a complex composite. It has some traits of the lion, bear and leopard, which is the order in Daniel 7, and also has that head which received a deadly wound but it was healed, and the whole world wondered after the beast. This is in Revelation 13: 3.
The head of the first beast whose deadly wound was healed is not the super one-man anti-Christ political world leader as the little horn which comes up among those four kingdoms in Daniel 7:8, which is also in Daniel 8: 9. Its the Little Horn, and related to the spirit of anti-Christ, but not The anti-Christ as a literal one man leader.
Then, in the scenarios about the conflict between the King of the North and the King of the South in Daniel 11, the King of the North can be seen as not only the office of the leader of the northern industrial nations under usury banking, but also that political, military, economic and cultural northern power itself. But many Christians will say that Daniel 11 has no relevance to modern events because it was totally fulfilled in the events at the time of Antiochus IV Epiphanes (215 BC – 164 BC). So, again while Daniel 11 could be seen as having some relevance to the northern political or NATO power versus the Islamic power of the South - somehow with Vladimir Putin being a little critical in 2013 of that Northern Power and its current King of the North - many Christians cannot see the relevance of Daniel 11 to what is going on in the world in the 21st century.
Academic Antony C. Sutton in 1983 put out another book about the ruling elite - America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones. This one, however, did not spark as much interest among the professors in the ivy towers as did the book by Texas sociologist C. Wright Mills. Mills did not operate out of Texas; he attained to tenured professorship at Columbia University.
Making Bible prophecy, which is in the language of metaphor, into literal chips in the hand or forehead, or making the spirit of anti-Christ in I John 4: 3 into one super Anti-Christ as a political leader of the
"New World Order" is not likely to be put down by the media or the church as conspiracy theory. If you follow Paul, rather than man-made theology, literalizing Revelation 13: 11-18 into chips in the hand as the mark of the beast, or some similar literal thing for the image of the beast is making Bible prophecy into fables as he says in II Timothy 4: 3-4.
Revelation 13: 11- 18 is metaphor about the work of the second beast of Revelation 13, often called the False Prophet, who stands for the many false prophets of Matthew 24: 11. Revelation 13: 14 says, for example, that the second beast causes people to make an image to the beast which had the wound by the sword, and did live.
While literalizing the mark and image of the beast, the cues in Revelation 13: 2 about the first beast being like a leopard, a bear and a lion, which do have something to do with literal worldly governments in our time, are missed.
If the reference to the leopard, the bear and the lion are recognized as three of the four beasts of Daniel 7: 4-8, but these beasts are interpreted to be the same kingdoms as in Daniel 2, then this clue about the governments in our time, which might lead up to something like what is meant by the "New World Order" is lost because the four kingdoms in Daniel 2 all began before the Cross. The last kingdom of Daniel 2, the Roman Empire morphed into the first post-Cross empire, the Holy Roman Empire. The world empires of England, Russia, Nazi Germany and the fourth and dreadful beast of Daniel 7 do not exist in a Daniel 7 interpreted to be the Babylonian, Persian, Greek and Roman Empires. So fables exist instead of some prophecy about a first beast of Revelation 13 which is a complex composite. It has some traits of the lion, bear and leopard, which is the order in Daniel 7, and also has that head which received a deadly wound but it was healed, and the whole world wondered after the beast. This is in Revelation 13: 3.
The head of the first beast whose deadly wound was healed is not the super one-man anti-Christ political world leader as the little horn which comes up among those four kingdoms in Daniel 7:8, which is also in Daniel 8: 9. Its the Little Horn, and related to the spirit of anti-Christ, but not The anti-Christ as a literal one man leader.
Then, in the scenarios about the conflict between the King of the North and the King of the South in Daniel 11, the King of the North can be seen as not only the office of the leader of the northern industrial nations under usury banking, but also that political, military, economic and cultural northern power itself. But many Christians will say that Daniel 11 has no relevance to modern events because it was totally fulfilled in the events at the time of Antiochus IV Epiphanes (215 BC – 164 BC). So, again while Daniel 11 could be seen as having some relevance to the northern political or NATO power versus the Islamic power of the South - somehow with Vladimir Putin being a little critical in 2013 of that Northern Power and its current King of the North - many Christians cannot see the relevance of Daniel 11 to what is going on in the world in the 21st century.
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Some of it may be made up but the truth is the antiChirst will be leader over a one world government and their will also be a one world religion which may be a teaching that accepts aall different beliefs as true.
It about controlling and take over mankind minds. And getting Jesus Christ and any sign of religion out of the picture. So satan can destroy all mankind. Starting with Israel and the United States.
satan hates mankind and this planet .
he wants to hurt GOD , but cannot do it directly. So he trying to destroy what GOD has created and what GOD loves man.
The main thing is to keep the Truth from man , Get control of HIS mind and body.
GOD would not give satan a share in HIS Kingdom . But is now giving us a place high in HIS KINGDOM .
Rev_3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
he knows he doomed to the lake of fire , he has no hope , only hate is left and destroying all he can . But he limited into how much GOD will allow him to destroy.
satan hates mankind and this planet .
he wants to hurt GOD , but cannot do it directly. So he trying to destroy what GOD has created and what GOD loves man.
The main thing is to keep the Truth from man , Get control of HIS mind and body.
GOD would not give satan a share in HIS Kingdom . But is now giving us a place high in HIS KINGDOM .
Rev_3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
he knows he doomed to the lake of fire , he has no hope , only hate is left and destroying all he can . But he limited into how much GOD will allow him to destroy.
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Hi Guys. The New World Order. Transferred this post from another thread where it didn't belong. With some ammendments and spelling corrections. :smiley:
There are many different aspects to the NWO that we little consider. Prophecy tells us that there is a union to take place between the dragon, the false prophet, and the beast. (See Revelation 16:13,14.) This union, between religion and the civil power, is global, and its ancient. The beast (of Revelation 13:1) is a composite and a result of 1000s of years in the making. It goes back as far as Babel. Its history is steeped in pagan idolatry. in occult and satanic mystery. Note that John describes the beast as being a composite of the very same powers that the prophet Daniel brought to light throiughout his book. There is a significant difference however. As Daniel described them in this order: Babylon, Media/Persia, Greece, and Rome....John decribes them in Revelation 13:2 in reverse. Thus Daniel was looking to the future (apart from the Babylonian aspect which he lived under) John however was looking back! For John, this beast was a living reality in his day, a beast which had its beginnings before his time! This is hugely significant, for this beast, who most scholars correctly name as the antichrist, cannot be an individual to be expected to arrive in the future, but a system or power that had its beginnings in ancient history, and is today reachings its culmination in power and authority! It is its full realisation of power that we are witnessing today, and the now developing NWO is the fruit of the devils work of millenia.
There is also involved, the image to the beast, and also the dragon. The devil seems to have all the bases covered in his final last days deception. The beast itself is autocratic. It is essentially a dictatorship, with a man of authority at its head who speaks for it, and his say is final. The image however, a religious/politcal also, a union which is a copy of the of the beast, is however one from a different paradigm. Note how Revelation puts this:
Rev. 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
(note that here we have a democratic system saying to the people of the world that they should make another system...here is a democratic society being called upon to undo its principles of democracy in exchange for one of dictatorial power! What major nation in the world today is in the very process of doing this? What major nation in the world was once Lamb-like, but is now speaking like a dragon? What major nation is today preparing its people for martial law, is spying wjholesale on her citizenz, is threatening tpo undo centuries of democratic freedoms, even to the point of over-ruli ng her constituional rights? I will leave that for you to answer.)
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
So far we have two different systems of power who will work togather in unity to rule the world. But we haven't finished. There is a third aspect. So far we have the beast, the false prophet, now we consider the dragon. The dragon is the devil himself. He his clearly the instigator and parent of both former powers, but there is a third power we seldom consider as being a part of thios union. It is the power of the occult. And we can find this as we consider the secret societies, the freemasons, the Illuminati. Are they a power worth giving any consideration to? Oh yes. Very much so, for it is the Illuminati with their tentacles in every faith, in every government, that is the real power in the earth. They influence almost everything. The wars, the economics, even many claim the climate. But if any would desire to know how far the occult has entered mainstream society, take a look at the u-tube videos available today unmasking the work os the Illuminati in the entertainment industry. Occult and pagan satanic worship is no longer the rumour or 'hear-say' of the fanatic in the privacy if his own bedroom at night. oday we have celebrities boasting of the demonic powers, boasting and admitting openly of possession of evil spirits, holding occult satanic worship ceremonies in open public display attended by thousands every week-end and in every nation on earth, and watched by millions worldwide on TV and the internet. I dont know the appropriateness of names, so will resist that temptation, but the stars of today in rock and roll and especially hip-hop and R&B are todays equivalent of the ancient temple prostitutes. They have sold their lives to the Illuminati (Satan) and in return are promised wealth, fame, and power. They hold their cponcerts( satanic occultic ceremonies) now with millions cherring them on, even at events such as the super-bowl. Look at the videos on u-tube. Google Illuminati and see for yourselves how deep, and all pervading, and evil, and how mainstream the occult now is. We are in the last days. And these three powers, Roman Catholicism, American Protestantism/democracy, and the occult spiritualistic Illuminati secret societies (the beast, the false prophet, and the dragon) will form Satan's masterpiece, Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots. The New World Order.
Would like to draw your attention to a little realised fact of Bilical prophecy regarding the establishment of the image to the beast. First poiunt I would like to make is that this is not a statue or an idol in the classical sense. The devil is not so stupid to think that he can deceive the entire world, including many millions of professing Christians, to worship a statue. He may be able to do this with some who are sold over to him, but not the general population who are utterly averse to the idea of any worship at all of a false god, let alone a statue of one. No, his deception is going to be more subtle than that.
Second, it is an image to the beast. The beast is a system of false worship that has deceived millions.
There are many different aspects to the NWO that we little consider. Prophecy tells us that there is a union to take place between the dragon, the false prophet, and the beast. (See Revelation 16:13,14.) This union, between religion and the civil power, is global, and its ancient. The beast (of Revelation 13:1) is a composite and a result of 1000s of years in the making. It goes back as far as Babel. Its history is steeped in pagan idolatry. in occult and satanic mystery. Note that John describes the beast as being a composite of the very same powers that the prophet Daniel brought to light throiughout his book. There is a significant difference however. As Daniel described them in this order: Babylon, Media/Persia, Greece, and Rome....John decribes them in Revelation 13:2 in reverse. Thus Daniel was looking to the future (apart from the Babylonian aspect which he lived under) John however was looking back! For John, this beast was a living reality in his day, a beast which had its beginnings before his time! This is hugely significant, for this beast, who most scholars correctly name as the antichrist, cannot be an individual to be expected to arrive in the future, but a system or power that had its beginnings in ancient history, and is today reachings its culmination in power and authority! It is its full realisation of power that we are witnessing today, and the now developing NWO is the fruit of the devils work of millenia.
There is also involved, the image to the beast, and also the dragon. The devil seems to have all the bases covered in his final last days deception. The beast itself is autocratic. It is essentially a dictatorship, with a man of authority at its head who speaks for it, and his say is final. The image however, a religious/politcal also, a union which is a copy of the of the beast, is however one from a different paradigm. Note how Revelation puts this:
Rev. 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
(note that here we have a democratic system saying to the people of the world that they should make another system...here is a democratic society being called upon to undo its principles of democracy in exchange for one of dictatorial power! What major nation in the world today is in the very process of doing this? What major nation in the world was once Lamb-like, but is now speaking like a dragon? What major nation is today preparing its people for martial law, is spying wjholesale on her citizenz, is threatening tpo undo centuries of democratic freedoms, even to the point of over-ruli ng her constituional rights? I will leave that for you to answer.)
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
So far we have two different systems of power who will work togather in unity to rule the world. But we haven't finished. There is a third aspect. So far we have the beast, the false prophet, now we consider the dragon. The dragon is the devil himself. He his clearly the instigator and parent of both former powers, but there is a third power we seldom consider as being a part of thios union. It is the power of the occult. And we can find this as we consider the secret societies, the freemasons, the Illuminati. Are they a power worth giving any consideration to? Oh yes. Very much so, for it is the Illuminati with their tentacles in every faith, in every government, that is the real power in the earth. They influence almost everything. The wars, the economics, even many claim the climate. But if any would desire to know how far the occult has entered mainstream society, take a look at the u-tube videos available today unmasking the work os the Illuminati in the entertainment industry. Occult and pagan satanic worship is no longer the rumour or 'hear-say' of the fanatic in the privacy if his own bedroom at night. oday we have celebrities boasting of the demonic powers, boasting and admitting openly of possession of evil spirits, holding occult satanic worship ceremonies in open public display attended by thousands every week-end and in every nation on earth, and watched by millions worldwide on TV and the internet. I dont know the appropriateness of names, so will resist that temptation, but the stars of today in rock and roll and especially hip-hop and R&B are todays equivalent of the ancient temple prostitutes. They have sold their lives to the Illuminati (Satan) and in return are promised wealth, fame, and power. They hold their cponcerts( satanic occultic ceremonies) now with millions cherring them on, even at events such as the super-bowl. Look at the videos on u-tube. Google Illuminati and see for yourselves how deep, and all pervading, and evil, and how mainstream the occult now is. We are in the last days. And these three powers, Roman Catholicism, American Protestantism/democracy, and the occult spiritualistic Illuminati secret societies (the beast, the false prophet, and the dragon) will form Satan's masterpiece, Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots. The New World Order.
Would like to draw your attention to a little realised fact of Bilical prophecy regarding the establishment of the image to the beast. First poiunt I would like to make is that this is not a statue or an idol in the classical sense. The devil is not so stupid to think that he can deceive the entire world, including many millions of professing Christians, to worship a statue. He may be able to do this with some who are sold over to him, but not the general population who are utterly averse to the idea of any worship at all of a false god, let alone a statue of one. No, his deception is going to be more subtle than that.
Second, it is an image to the beast. The beast is a system of false worship that has deceived millions.
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much like a tornado at night hiding behind the walls of rain, I know in my heart that NWO is real and then the end times are very near. I do see the one world government and chip implants for instance seem to be the on the horizon.
Imagine that I may turn on my t.v. at night to see in all blaring fashion that tornado warning telling me I will be directly hit as will all of my loved ones and neighbors surrounding. do my eyes perceive or understand the grave threat in the night which is on my doorstep, the answer is no. But I like a lot of others we know the threat is there and very real and close.
therefore what can we do? the good news is we have a hope in it may be scary at times but we will be prepared by taking action early and doing what the Lord commanded
new world order could be easily called the single government system and just as the book of Revelations will one day come to pass the evil of man shall one day find a end. I am clinging to my faith for the hard times ahead. That's all that can be done on our part
Imagine that I may turn on my t.v. at night to see in all blaring fashion that tornado warning telling me I will be directly hit as will all of my loved ones and neighbors surrounding. do my eyes perceive or understand the grave threat in the night which is on my doorstep, the answer is no. But I like a lot of others we know the threat is there and very real and close.
therefore what can we do? the good news is we have a hope in it may be scary at times but we will be prepared by taking action early and doing what the Lord commanded
new world order could be easily called the single government system and just as the book of Revelations will one day come to pass the evil of man shall one day find a end. I am clinging to my faith for the hard times ahead. That's all that can be done on our part
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No I don't believe it's true. I hold to different view of New Testament prophecy. I believe in the Partial-Preterist point of view. Which means that all of the prophecies concerning the beast were fulfilled by 70 AD.
Matt 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Many different interpretations to this(Matt 24:34) verse. I believe that it means what it says and says what it means. The prophecies would be fulfilled within a generation(40 yrs). Many times words like world and all have more than one meaning in scripture. Take the word world. It could mean the whole planet. It could mean all men. Or it could mean the world of a particular empire, such as the Roman Empire. Luke 2:1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.
Many interpretations will not study scripture with scripture so they come up with a different view. Or they will force their beliefs into the scripture to make the interpretation their point of view. Or they will take one prophecy and apply it to another prophecy when it shouldn't be together. Take the time to study what the scripture says and not what man says it says.
Matt 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Many different interpretations to this(Matt 24:34) verse. I believe that it means what it says and says what it means. The prophecies would be fulfilled within a generation(40 yrs). Many times words like world and all have more than one meaning in scripture. Take the word world. It could mean the whole planet. It could mean all men. Or it could mean the world of a particular empire, such as the Roman Empire. Luke 2:1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.
Many interpretations will not study scripture with scripture so they come up with a different view. Or they will force their beliefs into the scripture to make the interpretation their point of view. Or they will take one prophecy and apply it to another prophecy when it shouldn't be together. Take the time to study what the scripture says and not what man says it says.
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I also believe it. If one tales a partial preterist or preterist approach to Matthew 24 then Christ's parousia (His coming) has occurred....the first Rez has happened (which means all of us are part of the second Rez) and the gathering together unto Him by the angels (the alleged Rapture) has already occurred and then we are the most pitiful of all creatures to be subject to a works judgment at the Great White Throne. Most prophecy has a near time and an ultimate fulfillment (types and then antitype)...we are yet to see the one world government who's leader brings an alleged peace to the Middle East where a Jewish Jerusalem is at peace. 70 A.D. only fulfills in type about half of the the chapter but the other half has never been fulfilled even in type (I am a historic pre-millennialist)...
We would all be blessed to discuss pros and cons of the three of four views on another thread but this being more like a poll...I say yes...definitely...and we are right on the doorway being amidst the great apostasy just preceding the revealing of that man of sin, the wicked one and then praise be to God it will only be around 3 1/2 years to His coming....Maranatha (come quickly Lord Messiah)...so be sure your lamps are full and your wicks are trimmed
In His love
Brother Paul
We would all be blessed to discuss pros and cons of the three of four views on another thread but this being more like a poll...I say yes...definitely...and we are right on the doorway being amidst the great apostasy just preceding the revealing of that man of sin, the wicked one and then praise be to God it will only be around 3 1/2 years to His coming....Maranatha (come quickly Lord Messiah)...so be sure your lamps are full and your wicks are trimmed
In His love
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Lots of leaders been preaching the New world Order the last few years.
And we know the Great tribulation is yet to come.
we also know satan a copy cat. so he going to have his evil messiah who has not come yet.
he watches what GOD does and then later repeats it ,But for Evil .
There been lots of anti- christ types . But none of them had control of the planet to any degree. Until now , we could not speak and talk and see every place on earth.
That should reveal lots to us?
Soon every nation on earth will be against Israel. But God will be there Champion. Thank You LORD JESUS
And we know the Great tribulation is yet to come.
we also know satan a copy cat. so he going to have his evil messiah who has not come yet.
he watches what GOD does and then later repeats it ,But for Evil .
There been lots of anti- christ types . But none of them had control of the planet to any degree. Until now , we could not speak and talk and see every place on earth.
That should reveal lots to us?
Soon every nation on earth will be against Israel. But God will be there Champion. Thank You LORD JESUS
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wikipedia says "The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government—which replaces sovereign nation-states..."
The term power elite comes from the 1956 book The Power Elite by sociologist C. Wright Mills. The term ruling elite is used by the "conspiracy theorists" to describe a very small number of powerful individuals, many of them big bankers, most of whom are not known by name.
However, the idea that the ruling elite will be able to achieve their goal of ruling a world without nation states during the tribulation is a doctrine created by the dispensationalists. And their literal interpretation of I John 4: 3 - on the spirit of anti-Christ - about a one man super political leader of this New World Order is also a doctrine peculiar to dispensationalism.
The rule of the world by a financial elite has existed in a less authoritarian or total form for a few centuries. And - dispensationalism has not made use of Bible prophecy which provides an outline of the world kingdoms or empires after the Cross which in fact have been leading up to a more total and authoritarian rule of the world by the small elite of the northern industrial nations. You can see a clue to this in Revelation 13: 2, on the first beast having traits of the leopard, bear and lion kingdoms. We see these in the order of the lion, bear and leopard kingdoms in Daniel 7: 4-6. These three kingdoms, with the fourth kingdom of Daniel 7: 7, are not the same four pre-Cross kingdoms in Daniel 2, the Babylonian, Persian, Greek and Roman kingdoms.
The lion is the British empire, in which usury banking got a good start in the post-Cross era. The Bear is the Marxist-Collectivist Soviet Union, and the leopard is the dialectic response to Soviet Marxism, Nazi Germany. The fourth beast, dreadful and terrible in Daniel 7: 7 is an empire, a world super power, which combines the earlier British, Soviet Union and Nazi Germany traits.
Then Daniel 11 is about scenarios that involve the conflict between the king of the north and the king of the south. In the modern timeline this is the northern industrial nations under usury banking in conflict with the southern mostly Islamic nations. But Russia now under Putin is not exactly allied with the northern NATO power. The thing called the New World Order now seems to be in conflict with Islam, but its not as simple as dispensationalism paints it, with America, Northern Europe and Israel joined together in a high moral ground against an evil Islamic opponent. The ruling elite can and does use the dialectic process to show the evil nature of Islam in order to gain more control over its peoples. At the same time it is allowing Islam to increase its influence internally in the northern nations. The northern industrial usury banking ruling elite does not occupy a high moral ground. Both opponents in the modern Daniel 11 conflict are morally wrong, and are allied with death, contrary to what Christ says in John 10: 10, and his response to James and John in Luke 9; 51-56, when they wanted him to send fire down on the village of the Samaritans because they rejected Christ. When Christ turned physical Israel upside down (II Kings 21: 13, Isaiah 29: 16, Jeremiah 18: 1-6) he changed things for Israel, In response to the request to burn up the village, Christ said in Luke 9: 55-56, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not sent to destroy men's lives, but to save them."
The term power elite comes from the 1956 book The Power Elite by sociologist C. Wright Mills. The term ruling elite is used by the "conspiracy theorists" to describe a very small number of powerful individuals, many of them big bankers, most of whom are not known by name.
However, the idea that the ruling elite will be able to achieve their goal of ruling a world without nation states during the tribulation is a doctrine created by the dispensationalists. And their literal interpretation of I John 4: 3 - on the spirit of anti-Christ - about a one man super political leader of this New World Order is also a doctrine peculiar to dispensationalism.
The rule of the world by a financial elite has existed in a less authoritarian or total form for a few centuries. And - dispensationalism has not made use of Bible prophecy which provides an outline of the world kingdoms or empires after the Cross which in fact have been leading up to a more total and authoritarian rule of the world by the small elite of the northern industrial nations. You can see a clue to this in Revelation 13: 2, on the first beast having traits of the leopard, bear and lion kingdoms. We see these in the order of the lion, bear and leopard kingdoms in Daniel 7: 4-6. These three kingdoms, with the fourth kingdom of Daniel 7: 7, are not the same four pre-Cross kingdoms in Daniel 2, the Babylonian, Persian, Greek and Roman kingdoms.
The lion is the British empire, in which usury banking got a good start in the post-Cross era. The Bear is the Marxist-Collectivist Soviet Union, and the leopard is the dialectic response to Soviet Marxism, Nazi Germany. The fourth beast, dreadful and terrible in Daniel 7: 7 is an empire, a world super power, which combines the earlier British, Soviet Union and Nazi Germany traits.
Then Daniel 11 is about scenarios that involve the conflict between the king of the north and the king of the south. In the modern timeline this is the northern industrial nations under usury banking in conflict with the southern mostly Islamic nations. But Russia now under Putin is not exactly allied with the northern NATO power. The thing called the New World Order now seems to be in conflict with Islam, but its not as simple as dispensationalism paints it, with America, Northern Europe and Israel joined together in a high moral ground against an evil Islamic opponent. The ruling elite can and does use the dialectic process to show the evil nature of Islam in order to gain more control over its peoples. At the same time it is allowing Islam to increase its influence internally in the northern nations. The northern industrial usury banking ruling elite does not occupy a high moral ground. Both opponents in the modern Daniel 11 conflict are morally wrong, and are allied with death, contrary to what Christ says in John 10: 10, and his response to James and John in Luke 9; 51-56, when they wanted him to send fire down on the village of the Samaritans because they rejected Christ. When Christ turned physical Israel upside down (II Kings 21: 13, Isaiah 29: 16, Jeremiah 18: 1-6) he changed things for Israel, In response to the request to burn up the village, Christ said in Luke 9: 55-56, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not sent to destroy men's lives, but to save them."
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I have studied this topic for some years now that points to a certain place and time for the anti-christ to consume the world. I have no fear as our Lord decreed these events would occur prior to his return in glory. The reason I asked if it was true or make-believe is that there is much dis-information regarding the NWO which I believe is to confuse the masses, mixing truth with heresy.
Psyops are designed to confuse the masses into believing the so called truth. Truth mixed with lies denotes deceit and it is this deceit that can and could ensnare us. Every response has been spot on to date with much truth. As Christians we must make our stance against these Luciferian Doctrines. The bible tells us in the last days we will be persecuted unto death because of our belief In Jesus Christ. We will be martyred for our stance against the NWO.
I believe we are already living in these last days described in the bible, yet we must remain strong in our faith and not be wavering in our belief Christ will return in Glory. Those sitting on the fence will fall short. When the anti-christ returns, many on the fence will follow The AC. We will be persecuted; fear not dear friends-we will wait and deny the AC as we will be glorified by Christ by our belief in He who rose from the dead and allowed us back to the Father.
There is still work to be done as the Gospel still needs to reach the 4 corners of the globe before these events occur.
e-books I can recommend are;
Anthony C. Sutton - America's Secret Establishment - An Introduction to Skull and Bones (1983)
Chris Millegan - The Order of Skull and Bones
Dr John Coleman - The Conspirators' Hierarchy - The Committee of 300
Gary Allen - None Dare Call it Conspiracy
Milton William Cooper - New World Order
Blessings.
Psyops are designed to confuse the masses into believing the so called truth. Truth mixed with lies denotes deceit and it is this deceit that can and could ensnare us. Every response has been spot on to date with much truth. As Christians we must make our stance against these Luciferian Doctrines. The bible tells us in the last days we will be persecuted unto death because of our belief In Jesus Christ. We will be martyred for our stance against the NWO.
I believe we are already living in these last days described in the bible, yet we must remain strong in our faith and not be wavering in our belief Christ will return in Glory. Those sitting on the fence will fall short. When the anti-christ returns, many on the fence will follow The AC. We will be persecuted; fear not dear friends-we will wait and deny the AC as we will be glorified by Christ by our belief in He who rose from the dead and allowed us back to the Father.
There is still work to be done as the Gospel still needs to reach the 4 corners of the globe before these events occur.
e-books I can recommend are;
Anthony C. Sutton - America's Secret Establishment - An Introduction to Skull and Bones (1983)
Chris Millegan - The Order of Skull and Bones
Dr John Coleman - The Conspirators' Hierarchy - The Committee of 300
Gary Allen - None Dare Call it Conspiracy
Milton William Cooper - New World Order
Blessings.
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Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s propaganda Minister once said, “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
It is of utmost importance to the ruler of this world that his children convince the masses that such a thing is a paranoid speculation...or even a delusion...those IN the matrix are unable to see how it is slowly but surely encroaching upon the world political scene...pray and watch, and make sure your lamp is full and your wick trimmed...
It is of utmost importance to the ruler of this world that his children convince the masses that such a thing is a paranoid speculation...or even a delusion...those IN the matrix are unable to see how it is slowly but surely encroaching upon the world political scene...pray and watch, and make sure your lamp is full and your wick trimmed...
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Fallen above lists William Cooper among several writers (and broadcasters) on the New World Order. Bill Cooper wrote the book, Behold A Pale Horse, 1991. Cooper was on short wave radio from 1993 to 2001 and his show was called "The Hour of the Time."
In Chapter Two of Behold A Pale Horse, Secret Societies and the New World Order, Cooper has a lot of information on secret societies.
Cooper was the most intellectual, or learned, leader of the patriot movement of the nineties. Though he did not spend a lot of time on the Bible in his broadcasts, he continually mentioned that he was a Christian. And its very interesting that the title of his book, Behold A Pale Horse, is a reference to Revelation 6: 8, "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat upon him was Death and Hell followed with him."
Revelation 8: 2-8 presents four color coded horses with riders, the first the white horse, then the red horse, followed by the black horse. The fourth horse, the pale horse, or in Greek, the chloros, or green, horse, does not exist in nature. There are no green horses. There is something different about this fourth horse and his rider Death, with Hell following. He is said to have been given power to kill a fourth part of the earth."
I am not aware that Cooper went into detail in explaining these four horses and riders of Revelation 6: 23-8. But its very interesting that he used the fourth or pale horse in the title of his book on subjects related to the New World Order. He was on to something about this pale horse whose rider is Death with Hell following, in connecting the metaphor to the New World Order.
Remember that Revelation 13: 2 says the first beast is like a leopard, a bear and a lion. His feet were like those of a bear and his mouth like that of a lion. I do not know why these three metaphoric animals are in a different order than they are in Daniel 7: 4-7. The order in Daniel 7: 4-6 is the lion, who had eagle's wings before they were plucked off, with the heart of a man (not his literal physical heart) then the bear and the third animal metaphor is the leopard.
Note the sequence here: The lion as the British empire comes first, then the Soviet Union of Russia, and third comes Nazi Germany. This is the sequence in which these three kingdoms or world empires rose in history. The British empire was never totally defeated as was the Nazi German empire. The Soviet Union was not defeated in battle, but by other means, mostly economic, and Russia and Germany remain as important nations. Also, England, Russia and Germany were Christian nations, these empires were also post-Cross kingdoms.
Note the sequence of the first three horses and riders of Revelation 6: 2-5, first the white horse, then the red horse and third the black horse.
Just as the fourth beast of Daniel 7: 4-7 can be seen to have the traits of the three beasts coming before, so the fourth horse, the pale horse, of Revelation 6:8 can be seen to have the traits of the three horses which came before him. I don't know whether Cooper understood this or not.
It makes no sense to say that the white horse is the dispenationalist anti-Christ, and the other three are war, famine, or who knows what interpretations might be given to them. The four horses are a quartet and must fit together. One cannot be the anti-Christ and another war and still another some beast, the Pope or Roman Catholicism.
The white horse can be seen to represent the white wigs worn by the British elite. In history this was the colonial era, and usury banking got its start with the Bank of England. Then in the early 20th century the red empire of Marxist Russia rose up, followed by the black shirted Nazi empire of Hitler, with their panther tanks and panther or leopard identification. The white, black and red horse empires all feed into the metaphoric concept called the pale horse, which Bill Cooper had some understanding of, though I am not sure how explicit that understanding of his was.
In Chapter Two of Behold A Pale Horse, Secret Societies and the New World Order, Cooper has a lot of information on secret societies.
Cooper was the most intellectual, or learned, leader of the patriot movement of the nineties. Though he did not spend a lot of time on the Bible in his broadcasts, he continually mentioned that he was a Christian. And its very interesting that the title of his book, Behold A Pale Horse, is a reference to Revelation 6: 8, "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat upon him was Death and Hell followed with him."
Revelation 8: 2-8 presents four color coded horses with riders, the first the white horse, then the red horse, followed by the black horse. The fourth horse, the pale horse, or in Greek, the chloros, or green, horse, does not exist in nature. There are no green horses. There is something different about this fourth horse and his rider Death, with Hell following. He is said to have been given power to kill a fourth part of the earth."
I am not aware that Cooper went into detail in explaining these four horses and riders of Revelation 6: 23-8. But its very interesting that he used the fourth or pale horse in the title of his book on subjects related to the New World Order. He was on to something about this pale horse whose rider is Death with Hell following, in connecting the metaphor to the New World Order.
Remember that Revelation 13: 2 says the first beast is like a leopard, a bear and a lion. His feet were like those of a bear and his mouth like that of a lion. I do not know why these three metaphoric animals are in a different order than they are in Daniel 7: 4-7. The order in Daniel 7: 4-6 is the lion, who had eagle's wings before they were plucked off, with the heart of a man (not his literal physical heart) then the bear and the third animal metaphor is the leopard.
Note the sequence here: The lion as the British empire comes first, then the Soviet Union of Russia, and third comes Nazi Germany. This is the sequence in which these three kingdoms or world empires rose in history. The British empire was never totally defeated as was the Nazi German empire. The Soviet Union was not defeated in battle, but by other means, mostly economic, and Russia and Germany remain as important nations. Also, England, Russia and Germany were Christian nations, these empires were also post-Cross kingdoms.
Note the sequence of the first three horses and riders of Revelation 6: 2-5, first the white horse, then the red horse and third the black horse.
Just as the fourth beast of Daniel 7: 4-7 can be seen to have the traits of the three beasts coming before, so the fourth horse, the pale horse, of Revelation 6:8 can be seen to have the traits of the three horses which came before him. I don't know whether Cooper understood this or not.
It makes no sense to say that the white horse is the dispenationalist anti-Christ, and the other three are war, famine, or who knows what interpretations might be given to them. The four horses are a quartet and must fit together. One cannot be the anti-Christ and another war and still another some beast, the Pope or Roman Catholicism.
The white horse can be seen to represent the white wigs worn by the British elite. In history this was the colonial era, and usury banking got its start with the Bank of England. Then in the early 20th century the red empire of Marxist Russia rose up, followed by the black shirted Nazi empire of Hitler, with their panther tanks and panther or leopard identification. The white, black and red horse empires all feed into the metaphoric concept called the pale horse, which Bill Cooper had some understanding of, though I am not sure how explicit that understanding of his was.
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The world isn't any worst than what it was 200 years ago. It's not getting worse. Just like in a Christian's life time we have our ups and downs. We have times when we do things we shouldn't be doing. Right now the world is doing alot of bad things, but there are good things happening. There are still countries in this world, which are not Islam, that ban homosexual activities. I believe it will get better, but it might get worst first.
