Mark 16:9

[rstrats]

A poster on another board, the topic of which was questioning the authenticity of the last 12 verses in the book of Mark, wrote that it doesn't really matter because there is no doctrinal teaching in Mark 16:9-20 that cannot be proved elsewhere in agreed Scripture.
I made the mistake of sticking my nose into the discussion by pointing out that actually there is a statement in verse 9, as the KJV and similar versions have it, that is used for a doctrinal teaching that is to be found nowhere else in Scripture. As the KJV translates it, it is the only place that puts the resurrection on the first day of the week. I then suggested that whenever the discussion of seventh day observance versus first day observance comes up, it has generally been my experience that first day proponents many times use the idea of a first day resurrection to justify the change of observance from the seventh day to the first day, and when questioned about the day of resurrection, frequently quote Mark 16:9. The poster came back with: "Quote a published author who has done that."￾ - I have not yet been able to come up with one. Does anyone here know of one?

 

[Boanerges]

I look at it a little different.
The sabbath was a type and shadow of what we have in Christ. In He we rest from our own works, we commune, worship, and offer our lives to the Father.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


Worship God every day, follow your conscience before God.

Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Rom 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
Rom 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
Rom 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

 

[rstrats]

Boanerges,

Do you know of an author?

 

[B-A-C]

Jesus rose on the third day. It's that simple.

Matt 16:21; From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised up on the third day.
Matt 17:23; and they will kill Him, and He will be raised on the third day." And they were deeply grieved.
Matt 20:19; and will hand Him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify Him, and on the third day He will be raised up."
Matt 27:64; "Therefore, give orders for the grave to be made secure until the third day, otherwise His disciples may come and steal Him away and say to the people, 'He has risen from the dead,' and the last deception will be worse than the first."
Luke 9:22; saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed and be raised up on the third day."
Luke 13:32; And He said to them, "Go and tell that fox, 'Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.'
Luke 18:33; and after they have scourged Him, they will kill Him; and the third day He will rise again."
Luke 24:7; saying that the Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again."
Luke 24:21; "But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.
Luke 24:46; and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day,
Acts 10:40; "God raised Him up on the third day and granted that He become visible,
1 Cor 15:4; and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

Matt 12:40; for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Three days and three nights does NOT mean 6 days in any way shape or fashion. Not according to any Jewish tradition.

Matt 26:61; and said, "This man stated, 'I am able to destroy the temple of God and to rebuild it in three days.'"
Matt 27:40; and saying, "You who are going to destroy the temple and rebuild it in three days, save Yourself! If You are the Son of God, come down from the cross."
Matt 27:63; and said, "Sir, we remember that when He was still alive that deceiver said, 'After three days I am to rise again.'
Mark 10:34; "They will mock Him and spit on Him, and scourge Him and kill Him, and three days later He will rise again."

 

[rstrats]

B-A-C,

Do you have any information about an author?

 

[Strypes]

A poster on another board, the topic of which was questioning the authenticity of the last 12 verses in the book of Mark, wrote that it doesn't really matter because there is no doctrinal teaching in Mark 16:9-20 that cannot be proved elsewhere in agreed Scripture.
I made the mistake of sticking my nose into the discussion by pointing out that actually there is a statement in verse 9, as the KJV and similar versions have it, that is used for a doctrinal teaching that is to be found nowhere else in Scripture. As the KJV translates it, it is the only place that puts the resurrection on the first day of the week. I then suggested that whenever the discussion of seventh day observance versus first day observance comes up, it has generally been my experience that first day proponents many times use the idea of a first day resurrection to justify the change of observance from the seventh day to the first day, and when questioned about the day of resurrection, frequently quote Mark 16:9. The poster came back with: "Quote a published author who has done that."￾ - I have not yet been able to come up with one. Does anyone here know of one?

Mark 16:9 (Mary went to the tomb after sunrise on the first day of the week)...

I would think it would be difficult to prove with published literature that Mark 16:9 is the only place that puts the Resurrection of Jesus on the first day of the week, as "after sunrise the day after the sabbath" is exactly the same and all four Gospels document that Jesus rose from the dead.

 

[rstrats]

Strypes,

re: " 'after sunrise the day after the sabbath' is exactly the same and all four Gospels document that Jesus rose from the dead."

They only say that when the women arrived at the tomb that the tomb was empty. They don't say when it became empty.

 

[will]

They only say that when the women arrived at the tomb that the tomb was empty. They don't say when it became empty.

What does knowing this has to do with our Spiritual growth?
He is risen. Why is this not enough?

 

[rstrats]

will,

re: "What does knowing this has to do with our Spiritual growth?"


Sorry, I didn't know that every question had to have a result that increased one's spiritual growth. I shall move on and this topic can be closed.

 

[rstrats]

Why hasn't this topic been closed?

 

[Travis]

Why hasn't this topic been closed?

Because you didn't ask nicely enough a year ago

You gotta say: "pretty pretty please with a cherry on top!"