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Fear of Death

-I am becoming a little confused

amanda123,

I am sorry for the confusion. Please understand , not all believers have the same knowledge. There will be tears at the judgment seat of Christ till God wipes them away and there will be tears in the kingdom age because there is sin on earth.

Revelation 21:1-8
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
 
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Our Spirit Does not have any knowledge in it Mind of Sins ! It only accept Truth and the things we did out of Pure LOVE!

You see the old man our old spirit is gone after SALVATION ! But our flesh ma=ind still has those old carnal thoughts ! That why He tells us to RENEW our Flesh minds ! Replacing those bad thoughts with Love and truth ! That why we read GOD living Word ! Replacing those bad thoughts in our Flesh mind! Our spirit mind is perfect ! It has no evil thoughts ! It cannot sin !

Rom_6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Eph_4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
Col_3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;


Our flesh mind and body can Sin ! That why we must control them and be careful what thoughts we allow in ! Like Things we watch and Hear ! Evil music , evil talk , evil movies ! the flesh mind is the battle field !

The spirits Mind is the Mind of Christ! theree are No sin thoughts there !
1Co_2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
It has HIS type Mind but not all the knowledge! It must grow !It grows by Us FEEDing it God living words!


Heb_5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
1Pe_2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:


Mat_4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Eph_2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph_4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Col_3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Rom_8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit,J
 
O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1 Corinthians 15:55


From Spurgeon's sermon, "Spiritual Liberty"



The Christian can sit down calmly and think of dying.


What is life?


It is a narrow screen that separates us from glory, and death kindly removes it!


Death! you are a welcome guest; you are an angel of light, and the best friend I have.


How glorious to die!



Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man,
the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him.

​1 Corinthians 2:9
 
Only the unsaved will weep! We Do not weep! Our new mind does not remember the evil junk !It Was never in its mind !
Besides we do the judging !
1Co_6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co_6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?


The thoughts in our flesh mind , stay in our flesh mind ! the new mind our Spirit has only accepted the things of pure love we did and God living word! Our old spirits mind had the evil thoughts! They are still in our flesh mind! !that why they need replaced with God living Words! that the renewing of our flesh minds !


Rom_8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit,
 
The things which are seen are temporal; the things which are not seen are eternal
2 Corinthians 4:18

I do pray that anyone who has a fear of death who is reading this thread, will be blessed and comforted by the knowledge that dying for the believer will be glorious.....absent from the body present with the Lord.




Words of counsel to a dear dying friend.....Brooks


At death, you shall gain full freedom and liberty from all your enemies within and without—namely, sin, satan, and the world!


Death will free you from the indwelling power of sin.
In this present world, sin plays the tyrant; but in heaven there is no tyranny—but perfect felicity.
As in hell there is nothing but wickedness, so in heaven there is nothing but holiness.



Death will free you from all provocations, temptations,and suggestions to sin.
You shall be above all satan's assaults.
The old serpent is cast out, and shall be forever kept out of the new Jerusalem above!



Death will free you from all the effects and consequences of sin—namely, losses, crosses, sicknesses, diseases, disgraces, sufferings, etc.
When the cause is taken away, the effect ceases.
When the fountain of sin is dried up, the streams of afflictions, of sufferings, must be dried up.
Sin and sorrow were born together, live together, and shall die together.
Death will free you from all bodily infirmities and diseases.



Death will free you from all your sorrows, whether inward or outward, whether for your own sins or the sins of others, whether for your own sufferings or the sufferings of others.
Now, it may be, you are seldom without tears in your eyes, or sorrow in your heart.
Oh, but death will be the funeral of all your sorrows!
Death will wipe all tears from your eyes, "and sorrow and mourning shall flee away!"



Dear friend, death shall do that for you, which all your physicians could never do for you.
It shall both instantly and perfectly cure you of all sorts of weaknesses and maladies, both inward and outward, of both your body

and your soul!


O my dear friend, is it not better to die,
and be rid of all sin;
and be rid of all temptations;
and be rid of all sorts of miseries;
than to live, and still carry about with us our sins, our sorrows, our burdens, and our constant ailments?


Joy cometh in the morning
Psalm 30:5
 
Only the unsaved will weep! We Do not weep! Our new mind does not remember the evil junk !It Was never in its mind !
Besides we do the judging !
1Co_6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
1Co_6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?


The thoughts in our flesh mind , stay in our flesh mind ! the new mind our Spirit has only accepted the things of pure love we did and God living word! Our old spirits mind had the evil thoughts! They are still in our flesh mind! !that why they need replaced with God living Words! that the renewing of our flesh minds !


Rom_8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit,


Jesus will judge all our works and there will be many tears for a while, but they will go away.

1 Corinthians 3:11-15
11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
 
I ASKED GOD once? What does our spirits mind take with it when we leave this body ? He said Only those things we did out of LOVE! None of the failures or evil we did on the earth goes with our Spirits mind! We do not remember our mistakes! We will not be sad or ashamed ! Heaven [New jerusalem ] has No sorrow ,crying or any being unhappy ! Our New Spirit hates Sin ! Yes our flesh mind and body might sin !It has a sinfull nature !It noty perfect , nor will it ever be ! judgment day will be here on the earth ! Not in heaven [NEW JERUSALEM ] Nothing evil can enter the NEW HEAVEN [New Jerusalem ] That what happen to the old heaven !the fallen angels entered it and defiled it by Sin ! That why God Created a New Heaven !New Jerusalem for us !
Heb_12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Joh_14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh_14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

He had to be the First to enter New Jerusalem !
 
Asleep In Jesus

Blessed are the dead, which die in the lord
Revelation 14:13

The saints in Jesus, when their bodies sleep in the peace of DEATH, have perpetual fellowship with Him--
yes, far better fellowship than we on earth can enjoy.

We have but a transitory glimpse of His face; they gaze upon it every moment.
We see Him through a glass darkly; they behold Him face to face.

We sip of the brook by the way; they plunge into the very ocean of unbounded love.
We sometimes get drops of comfort; but they get the honeycomb itself.

They that sleep in Jesus are full of peace,

and full of joy forever.

CH Spurgeon


They are before the throne of God
Revelation 7:15
 
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Once we leave these bodies ! WE are in Heaven [New Jerusalem ] They have there New bodies and are talking with each other and our LORD JESUS! Sleep does not mean what we count sleeping ! it does means we are no longer working here ! Our spirit in the LORD or Not do not sleep !

1Co_15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
He was Never sleeping as we count sleep! nor do we !

We know 12 of the Elders are the 12 disciples! They are talking !and they are asking about the others in robes! Meaning the others have bodies in order to wear robes!

Rev_7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Rev_7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

These have hands !Revealing they have bodies! New bodies!

Rev_6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.


they can see each other in hell and talked! of course now we go to heaven if of God and Hell if we have refused His Free gift of Eternal life !

Sure David up there too ! But His old body has rotted away ! He has His new Body there !
Act_13:36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:

GOD HAS LOTS for EACH one of Us up there !
1Co_2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

THIS is Us Returning to Earth with Him to rule UNDER HIM for 1000 years! We will be in our New bodies and we will not have mates! We will be the KINGS and LORDS ? The kings will rule over nations the LORDS over a cities or cities ?

Jud_1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
1Th_4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1Th 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
 
Both my Mom And Dad are in heaven doing the following.

Psalm 149:4-6a
4 For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.
5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
6a Let the high praises of God be in their mouth,
 
Both my Mom And Dad are in heaven doing the following.

Psalm 149:4-6a
4 For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.
5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
6a Let the high praises of God be in their mouth,


That is a great comfort Eric and my fears of the unknown is been greatly lesenned by this thread
Thank you
 
That is a great comfort Eric and my fears of the unknown is been greatly lesenned by this thread
Thank you

I am glad it helped. When we get to heaven it will be great! The bible says we can't even imagine how great it will be.
 
One worry that I still have is do we forget our dera ones who were not saved.
It is hard to think of this

Keep posting the beautiful scriptures and readingsb they are so comforting

Thanx
 
One worry that I still have is do we forget our dera ones who were not saved.
It is hard to think of this

Keep posting the beautiful scriptures and readingsb they are so comforting

Thanx

17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Glad to help!
 
Everything we had a real LOVE for ? WE remember ! everything we ever Did out of real LOVE we remeber ! LOVe Never dies ! love is Forever ! GOD is pure perfect LOVE!
Nothing is Greater than LOVE !
 
Everything we had a real LOVE for ? WE remember ! everything we ever Did out of real LOVE we remeber ! LOVe Never dies ! love is Forever ! GOD is pure perfect LOVE!
Nothing is Greater than LOVE !

Is that your opinion or do you have scripture to contradict Isaiah 65:17
 
i ASKED GOD once ! What does our Spirits mind take with it after we leave these bodies ?
He said , Everything we ever did out of LOVE ! that why we remember our DADS and MOMS !
So i think from that ? If we truly LOVEd anyone ? We will Remember them ! But listen , if you can Hear the LORD ? ASK HIM YOUR SELF !
But i would not say GOd said anything that was not true!
 
I would say this is after HE creates the New Heavens and EARTH !

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

We see here these remembered who killed them !
Rev_6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

I can Only give my testamony of What He told me ! You do not have to accept it as TRUTH!

But ASK HIM your self !

Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily:
Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am.


i Found it Only takes three days water only reading the bible and praying !
 
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Yes, I believe we will be so lost in wonder love and praise.....glorifying our King upon His throne....that no earthly memories will be able to come into mind

So shall we ever be with the Lord
1 Thessalonians 4;17

Changed from glory into glory
Till in heaven we take our place
Till we cast our crowns before Thee
Lost in wonder, love and praise*


*Wesley
 
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