What happens when you die?

[Puddleglum]

Hmmm... I would think that the "real" nation of Israel disobeyed and turned away from God over and and over again all through the Old Testament. He kept turning them back to him. Even now most of Israel is turned away, but God will turn them back eventually. Rom 11:7; 2 Cor 3:14; John 12:40.

Christianity is failing? What do you base this on? There are more Christians on the earth right now than at any time in history.
We Americans seem to think that just because the USA is turning away from God, then everyone else must be. This isn't true at all.
Some nations are having incredible times of revival.

Revival, where !
Christianity is failing, just look to your government to see their works and most so called Christians are lead astray as they do their own works as they do not abide in Jesus Christ at all. but only a religion. Nations are falling away from Christianity foundations to a new world order, based on man alone.

There is no "Israel" in the State at all. so why call them that. as they are not an Israel at all, but far from it, because they do not turn to God but only Idols, so they are only Jews and that's all. you can not be Israel and not abide in God, as that is impossible and it bastardises the name. Any Christian that looks up to Idols or a race is reprobate.
There is only one way and that is in Christ only and if one does not believe that you are totally lost. as there is only one way to the Father.
I am a Hebrew Christian and it does not impress me at all, when one calls me a Jew. as it is the ultimate insult, but i know they are just ignorant and have no idea what they are talking about.

I was a friend's place when a friend of his said i was a Jew, he was a German australian and knew by my sir name, i informed him i was a Christian, but he flat out disbelieved me. and i said my forefathers were Christians even before Hitlers great great grand fathers were born that i know of, ya clown. and he still believes me to be a Jew 12 years after. if you are a Jew, that means you reject Jesus full on.. and by being a Jew does not mean you are a Hebrew.

 

[B-A-C]

What you say is partly true, The Bible does say some will fall away from the faith in the last days.
It also says there will be an increase in knowledge, also the righteous will become more righteous and the evil will become more evil.

Go to a search site like google, type in 'revival iran' or 'revival south africa' or 'revival south korea' and see what you get.
Over one and a half billion people in the world call themselves Christians. 2,000 years ago there were 12 Christians. This is failing?
I wish I had some money failing in the bank right now. I would be willing to put 12 dollars in the bank to get $1.5 billion back.

You might say, there are more Muslims than Christians, possibly true, but does that mean Christianity is failing?
You might say, well most of those Christians are Christian in name only and don't really know Jesus as their personal savior, that could be true also.
But even if say... only 33% of them really Christians, that's half a billion Christians. I might be willing to sacrifice 12 bucks for that.

As for the US, we Americans seem to think the fate of the world hangs on us. The truth is, there have been bigger nations than us in the past.
Ever heard of Alexander the great? The Roman empire? The Ottoman Empire? The Byzantine Empire? Genghis Kahn? Attila the Hun?
Some of them lasted longer than the short 200 years the US has been a nation. In fact, on average, 200 years is about the length of a great world empires reign.
It may be, that the US may no longer dominate the social/financial/military/technology much longer if we even do now.
Maybe that means God's judgment is falling on this country,I wouldn't doubt it. Maybe it means Jesus is coming back tomorrow.
But maybe, he won't come back for a thousand more years, and the US was just another failed world empire on a long list.

 

[David777]

What you say is partly true, The Bible does say some will fall away from the faith in the last days.
It also says there will be an increase in knowledge, also the righteous will become more righteous and the evil will become more evil.

Hello B-A-C.

The verse says "many" not "some" will fall away.
Matthew 24:10
At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another.

 

[B-A-C]

Hello B-A-C.

The verse says "many" not "some" will fall away.
Matthew 24:10
At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another.

Good verse, I think it certainly applies. The one I had in mind was 1 Tim 4:1 .

 

[B-A-C]

Isa 2:1 The word which Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
Isa 2:2 Now it will come about that In the last days The mountain of the house of the LORD Will be established as the chief of the mountains, And will be raised above the hills; And all the nations will stream to it.
Isa 2:3 And many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, To the house of the God of Jacob; That He may teach us concerning His ways And that we may walk in His paths." For the law will go forth from Zion And the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Isa 2:4 And He will judge between the nations, And will render decisions for many peoples; And they will hammer their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, And never again will they learn war.


Could this be a prophecy concerning the New Jerusalem?

 

[B-A-C]

The Age, and the age to come....

Some Believe the Bible talks about different "ages", epochs, aeons, or periods of time.
Acts 1:7 He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority;

Some say there was an age before the Earth and Heavens, before men and angels existed.
Some say the current age is simply the time of man's existence on earth and satan as it's ruler.

But even Jesus speaks of two different ages.

Matt 12:32 "Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Matt 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
Matt 13:40 "So just as the tares are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the end of the age.
Matt 13:49 "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
Matt 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
Mark 10:30 but that he will receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms, along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal life.
Luke 16:8 "And his master praised the unrighteous manager because he had acted shrewdly; for the sons of this age are more shrewd in relation to their own kind than the sons of light.
Luke 18:30 who will not receive many times as much at this time and in the age to come, eternal life."

Luke 20:34 Jesus said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage,
Luke 20:35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;

Paul also mentions these.

Gal 1:4 who gave Himself for our sins so that He might rescue us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,
Eph 1:21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.
Tit 2:12 instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age,
Heb 6:5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,

In Matt 13:39-49 it appears the end of the current age is when the final resurrection happens.

The age to come could mean the time from after the resurrection until the end of the millennial reign. Rev 20:2-7

Some say the next age is the final age, and it just extends on forever.
Some say it is just until Jesus returns his authority to God the father.
John 13:3 Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He had come forth from God and was going back to God,
1 Cor 15:24 then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.
1 Cor 15:25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.
1 Cor 15:28 When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

I don't really know, but it's food for thought.

 

[brhal]

You best be concerned with what happens before you die: God will handle the rest.

 

[B-A-C]

You best be concerned with what happens before you die: God will handle the rest.

An interesting response from a non free-will believer.