Who Is My Brother?

[faithfulservant]

It is a tool that is used to draw people unto Christ and the mercy that he showed unto the ungodly ones he invited to follow him by wearing his righteousness.

I know nothing of Gnosticism. I only know what I read in the scriptures. Your name says ByGraceAlone. Unfortunately the bible says that it is by grace through faith. It is the faith part that people get mixed up on. One can only be without sin by faith, the faith of Jesus Christ, which is emptying yourself of self and serving God and others. I am what I am by the grace of God but it is the effectual working of his grace in me. He shed his grace on me and I have perpetually given grace unto others. He was merciful unto me and I have taken that mercy to others.

Telling someone a lie and saying that they can continue in sin and end up saved is not loving nor is it merciful it is poison to their soul that the deceitful heart takes and runs with. I really wish you understood as did Jesus when he was speaking to his disciples. He asked "Why can't you understand my speech?". It breaks my heart to know that I cannot help people understand the truth of their demise. Jesus wept over Jerusalem, a city that treated him like he was some kind of holier than thou person. I can't save myself, I can only condemn myself as an unbeliever through my works if I fail to heed the words of God almighty. He has made himself clear about evil unrepentant sinners. He will destroy them. Did you not hear Peter? If the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and sinner appear?

Why can you not understand?

In Jesus Name,

Gary

Gary, I cannot reasonably examine your fruits over a messageboard. But I have concerns about you, so please allow me to give you some advice:

The absolute most important things you will ever do for the Kingdom of God will be face to face, not over the internet. If He wants someone to do His will over the internet, you can bet He's already trained them up in the real world face to face so they're able to truly love and be effective vessels for His will. Be assured of that.

God is all about people. God loves people, even unrepentant sinners. His heart is all about the fatherless, the widows, the oppressed, the poor. Since His body is no longer present at this time, He wants to love people through our vessels. He wants His gospel preached, that His wedding feast will be full. This is where the fruits of the Spirit truly manifest, if you're hoping to "bear fruit" and be a vine that doesn't dry up and become cast into the fire. If there is a ministry the LORD is calling you to, you can bet it will be about humble servitude, and not about waving around weighty doctrines and hanging judgment over newborns in Christ.

If I were to make an assumption about your fruits, I must say I think you really need to have a personal relationship with the LORD. You spend most of your time talking of how God destroys people. Like the "one talent servant," it appears you are lacking the understanding of a couple of fundamental attributes of the LORD: Love, mercy, and humility. That servant saw the return of the LORD and though he knew of God, he didn't really know God. What the LORD gave him he buried under misconception, bad doctrine, apathy, pick your poison. That scripture can be applied to a lot of people who thought they knew God. The LORD met him where he was at, and his end was not good. But not because God is merciless, but because that servant wasn't really interested in knowing God's heart.

Be careful not to heed every spirit that comes to you. Make no mistake, the thoughts that come into your head are not always your own. They're not always the Holy Spirit of God or a holy angel sent as a messenger, either. Often times, it's Satan jamming communications. It's an unholy angel who wants to draw you into error. And that's all I'm going to say on that matter, I pray the LORD will guide you into the truth about our two-way communication in prayer.

Your diatribes on this forum are hardly edifying, are not grounded in solid Biblical truth. In fact, your doctrines, I discern in the Spirit, are warped.

There is nothing new under the sun. Satan has rolled out the same lies again and again with each generation. Satan's doctrines always look good on the surface, as he appears as an angel of light, but they are hollow as they contain no love, mercy, or humility.

You claim to know nothing of Calvinism, and yet you hold to one of their most warped tenets: That no man has freewill to seek the LORD (there is an elect). You claim you know nothing of gnosticism, yet you preach a gospel whereby people are saved by the knowledge of doctrine they hold. And now you want people to assume they must be sinless in order to gain entry into God's Kingdom. You act as if sanctification must be complete when it's very clear our only real righteousness is Jesus' robe of righteousness.

While there are elements of truth in the things you say, you take things to such an extreme that the truth is shrouded in a lie.

I pray the LORD will shine His mercy down upon you, and show you how important it is for you to let His agape love come through you to others and that His truth will reign in all you wish to share. Even the most accurate doctrine without love is nothing but a noisy gong.

 

[Julie1983]

Romans 10:9
That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Notice there are no works listed here. This is how to be saved.

 

[Kit Carson]

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No one is perfect, that is why I am saved by grace not works. I am no longer of the flesh but born again so I am not under the law but under Christ. No one can snatch me from His hand. Nothing will ever seperate me from Christ. Besides I always repent of saying that. God knows I dont mean it. When someone is tearing you apart you are only human and react.
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Hi Miss Julie:

For sure none of us are without sin. Sin is sin, be it a little sin or a big sin. Just simple things like a tiny lie, or lashing out in anger, or like myself being lazy and not helping around the house like I should have is a sin. They are not huge sins, but all the personalities of us, as humans, are put to shame as we stand before God.

I think you will find as you bow your will to God that you will suddenly have the wish to not allow your own way to create anger and fussing and conflict. That is how it works for me, if and when I find myself in a situation that I do not seem to be able to handle all by myself I run to God and say, hey how about smacking me when I do this or that. I find that if I start to be harsh or unkind that I am instantly convicted of this and do not conduct the act.

I guess just run to God and ask him to temper your spirit, to create a desire to get along. And it will gradually happen.

The home and wife and family and those things are our only refuge and peace in the world. They are what we value, what we cling to and be careful with them. Fussing, disharmony, and conflict can and does lead to us as humans allowing our own emotions and ways to begin to resent and pull away. This can lead to serious sin such as chasing that 112 pound perky........or crimes of passion and many things. Stopping off for a beer with the boys versus coming home and so on.

Yep it is a two way street, both have to work at it, both have to yield to the other, acceptance and understanding have to be on both sides. If one throws their dirty socks on the living room floor, hey just pick them up and forget about it.

Hey you want to know my laundry method? Lol! I mean why hang up perfectly good and clean clothes, hey they will only get dirty again, so just leave them in a pile. Giggle.......oh my......Kit you better hang those clothes up........Yes Maam I will.

Ask God to temper your spirit, you will find you will suddenly catch yourself in the act of wanting to fuss, and find it really does not make much difference anyway. The little pile of sand does not have to be a mountain.

Kit

 

[gdemoss]

Gary, I cannot reasonably examine your fruits over a messageboard. But I have concerns about you, so please allow me to give you some advice:

The absolute most important things you will ever do for the Kingdom of God will be face to face, not over the internet. If He wants someone to do His will over the internet, you can bet He's already trained them up in the real world face to face so they're able to truly love and be effective vessels for His will. Be assured of that.

God is all about people. God loves people, even unrepentant sinners. His heart is all about the fatherless, the widows, the oppressed, the poor. Since His body is no longer present at this time, He wants to love people through our vessels. He wants His gospel preached, that His wedding feast will be full. This is where the fruits of the Spirit truly manifest, if you're hoping to "bear fruit" and be a vine that doesn't dry up and become cast into the fire. If there is a ministry the LORD is calling you to, you can bet it will be about humble servitude, and not about waving around weighty doctrines and hanging judgment over newborns in Christ.

If I were to make an assumption about your fruits, I must say I think you really need to have a personal relationship with the LORD. You spend most of your time talking of how God destroys people. Like the "one talent servant," it appears you are lacking the understanding of a couple of fundamental attributes of the LORD: Love, mercy, and humility. That servant saw the return of the LORD and though he knew of God, he didn't really know God. What the LORD gave him he buried under misconception, bad doctrine, apathy, pick your poison. That scripture can be applied to a lot of people who thought they knew God. The LORD met him where he was at, and his end was not good. But not because God is merciless, but because that servant wasn't really interested in knowing God's heart.

Be careful not to heed every spirit that comes to you. Make no mistake, the thoughts that come into your head are not always your own. They're not always the Holy Spirit of God or a holy angel sent as a messenger, either. Often times, it's Satan jamming communications. It's an unholy angel who wants to draw you into error. And that's all I'm going to say on that matter, I pray the LORD will guide you into the truth about our two-way communication in prayer.

Your diatribes on this forum are hardly edifying, are not grounded in solid Biblical truth. In fact, your doctrines, I discern in the Spirit, are warped.

There is nothing new under the sun. Satan has rolled out the same lies again and again with each generation. Satan's doctrines always look good on the surface, as he appears as an angel of light, but they are hollow as they contain no love, mercy, or humility.

You claim to know nothing of Calvinism, and yet you hold to one of their most warped tenets: That no man has freewill to seek the LORD (there is an elect). You claim you know nothing of gnosticism, yet you preach a gospel whereby people are saved by the knowledge of doctrine they hold. And now you want people to assume they must be sinless in order to gain entry into God's Kingdom. You act as if sanctification must be complete when it's very clear our only real righteousness is Jesus' robe of righteousness.

While there are elements of truth in the things you say, you take things to such an extreme that the truth is shrouded in a lie.

I pray the LORD will shine His mercy down upon you, and show you how important it is for you to let His agape love come through you to others and that His truth will reign in all you wish to share. Even the most accurate doctrine without love is nothing but a noisy gong.

GBA, This is absolutely marvelous. I know that you love and care about me and that your love is genuine. I know that you believe everything you say as once did I. I know that when you look at me (over the internet through my posts) you can't see mercy, love or humility. The horror of it all is that one of us is truly blind to the truth if not both of us. I, like you, came to Christ outside of the church. I entered in momentarily in order to get a foundation of understanding from those who believe. I was taught all the things that you preach. But I have that which is inside of me that teaches me different. The scripture teaches that God makes his vessels unto honor and some to dishonor, all for his purpose. I pray daily that he might make me a vessel unto honor that will glorify him in all that I do. That I be cleansed from all impure doctrine.

You say that doctrine doesn't save, yet another name for false doctrine is heresy which is found in Galatians 5 as a work of the flesh. It says those that do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

A few things about the man with only one talent. It is given unto Jesus disciples (those who deny themselves and pick up their cross) to understand all things. Unto others, they are but mysteries that are given false ideas of. In this parable, Jesus speaks of a Lord who has gone away and left 3 men with money. Two of them do well while their lord is away but the one, the one you have likened me to, did poorly. That servant when his Lord returned opened his mouth and spoke saying the things that he knew about his Lord to be true and explained his works by them. The Lord, in turn, straightened out his error and showed him that his works were not an acceptable response to his knowledge of his Lord. This was about the three servants works that they did while their Lord was away. The last one was cast out into outer darkness because of his works that did not match his faith (what he said he believed about his Lord).

Immediately after telling this parable, the Lord begins to speak about the end of the world and the dividing of the sheep and goats who are all similarly judged by their works. The sheep all did works worthy of acceptance and were granted life. The goats all did works that were unacceptable and were granted death. Literalists stumble at these scriptures because they cannot see that Jesus words here are not literal. People are not really sheep and goats. The works mentioned here are not really the physical acts associated with them. Only the carnal mind discerns them that way. The actual physical acts are things that we are supposed to do as Christians but Jesus is more concerned with the spiritual works he spoke of.

• Hungered gave meat = Fed their souls with the word of God
• Thirsty gave drink = Gave drink of the spirit to those who thrist after righteousness
• Stranger and took in = unbeliever you professed the Gospel to who converts
• Sick and visted = dying in their sin and you came to be a physician with the word to heal them
• Prison and came to = Those completely enslaved by sin who need deliverance through the word

This is all about ministering the Word of God to those who need it that in turn are healed through its power. You believe that the one talent servant didn't know God. Look at the truth. The one talent servant gave an explanation to his Lord of who he thought he was and his Lord did not rebuke him and say you don't know who I am. You have not understood my mercy, love and humility. If that were the case, he would have simply had mercy upon that wicked servant. Instead he agrees with the servants description (unlike what you claim) and shows him that if he truly believed what he said then his works should have been different. When Jesus returns the same will happen at the judgment. Many will come with an accurate description of him as the sinless Son of God who gave his life a ransom for many. Their works will not agree with their mouth though. They will not have followed him by picking up their cross and denying themselves and dying to sin. And his response to them is depart from me you worker of iniquity, I never knew you. They never had the fellowship of Jesus sufferings in their lives.

You have said that I am telling people they must be sinless to enter the kingdom of heaven. This is not accurate. The scripture is clear that their are occasions where some Christians sin. Some in ignorance other through personal failure. We have an advocate with the Father for this purpose. That said, those who know better and continue in sin will ultimately be rejected as unbelievers since they do not believe texts such as Galatians 5 works of the flesh that do not inherit the kingdom. It is true, I preach righteousness and walking a sinless life to all including the newborns. I warn every man of the sure possibility that he may be rejected as an unbeliever, if his works declare that he is one by denying Jesus in them. As it is written, They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

It is as you say, my true ministry is not internet based. The things that I say here are most likely not going to be received by those who they are given to. God will, in his sovereignty, draw as many as he will using Google to stumble across our conversations, who will ultimately be enlightened. We are indeed in perilous times. Just as in the day of visitation, the advent, Gods people are asleep. He has given them eyes of slumber that they may not see. Their unrighteousness before him has caused him to judge them unworthy. Jesus will come to them as a thief in the night and they will not be prepared. Why he has chosen me to wake up from sleep, I do not know. But I will continue to go around and shake believers to see if I can get some to wake up and prepare themselves before his return. That they may watch and pray that they enter not into temptation. The wedding will be furnished with guests as it is written, but their will also be those found without a wedding garment that will be tossed out. Why wasn't Gods grace and mercy applied to that man who had no garment? It is true that the garment spoken of is the imputed righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ, but one cannot have the garment without believing what God has said. God declared his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, we had better work our hardest to walk in that righteousness and be declared righteous believers in the end who, like faithful Abraham, are imputed the true righteousness.

May the will of the Father be done in all things as he is God, and may his Son Jesus, the rightful heir of the throne of David, have mercy upon all and send his truth out to the four corners of the globe to the elect waiting to hear the call.

In Jesus Name,

Gary

 

[faithfulservant]

I've got news for you Gary: I, too, was born again of His Holy Spirit outside of any church setting. No man led me to Christ. Jesus has been my teacher, my Rabbi.

You've disregarded my message to you, Gary. I can discern you're following spirits of error because of the calvinisim, the gnosticism, and the legalism. These are huge red-flags.

Does the LORD have an elect predestined from the foundation of the world? Yes. Is everyone elect? NO! Do you have to be of the elect to be saved? NO!

Is it the LORD's will that we grow in knowledge, wisdom, and maturity? Of course. Do you have to have a perfect knowledge and understanding of God or His doctrines to enter the Kingdom? NO!

Is it the LORD's will to sanctify our vessels? Of course. Do we have to be sinless to enter His Kingdom? NO! There are some sins that lead to death, but they're the kinds of sins that are clear and obvious. But you wish to discern people's hearts over the internet, and you really need to get your heart straight with God and what you wish to preach to His sheep. This is His flock, Gary, not yours. And woes come to those who scatter His flock.

I warn you, and anyone who wishes to follow your teachings, to steer clear of such ideas. They are lies from the pit of hell.

 

[gdemoss]

I've got news for you Gary: I, too, was born again of His Holy Spirit outside of any church setting. No man led me to Christ. Jesus has been my teacher, my Rabbi.

You've disregarded my message to you, Gary. I can discern you're following spirits of error because of the calvinisim, the gnosticism, and the legalism. These are huge red-flags.

Does the LORD have an elect predestined from the foundation of the world? Yes. Is everyone elect? NO! Do you have to be of the elect to be saved? NO!

Is it the LORD's will that we grow in knowledge, wisdom, and maturity? Of course. Do you have to have a perfect knowledge and understanding of God or His doctrines to enter the Kingdom? NO!

Is it the LORD's will to sanctify our vessels? Of course. Do we have to be sinless to enter His Kingdom? NO! There are some sins that lead to death, but they're the kinds of sins that are clear and obvious. But you wish to discern people's hearts over the internet, and you really need to get your heart straight with God and what you wish to preach to His sheep. This is His flock, Gary, not yours. And woes come to those who scatter His flock.

I warn you, and anyone who wishes to follow your teachings, to steer clear of such ideas. They are lies from the pit of hell.

Warning noted. You say that I cannot discern a persons heart over the internet yet Jesus says that out of the over abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Was I not clear? Did I not already say to you that I know that you came to God outside of the church? Why chastise me then?

You come to me with an accusing tongue, one that rebukes for heresy that leads to damnation. Just a few posts ago you were coming to me in love, concerned for my well being. As I stated before, I believe all of your intentions are good. I condemn you not. You have been given much truth and are responsible for how you respond to the truth. You have declared unto all and have 'marked' my teachings as being from the devil. If you are right then you have done well, if you are wrong then you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit, if it be his spirit speaking through me. There is a difference in disagreeing with what one says about the interpretation of scripture and in saying that the words a man speaks are lies from the pit of hell. I disagree with what you have taught, true. You on the other hand have condemned my teaching as lies.

Be Careful.

Gary

 

[faithfulservant]

Someone is right here and someone is wrong. God will judge between us, and His Holy Spirit will empower the teaching He commends as people come across this thread. May God be glorified in His truth, and not mischaracterized in the commandments of men.

 

[gdemoss]

Someone is right here and someone is wrong. God will judge between us, and His Holy Spirit will empower the teaching He commends as people come across this thread. May God be glorified in His truth, and not mischaracterized in the commandments of men.

Amen. GBA. Amen. May God be glorified in both his vessels unto honor and his vessels unto dishonor. He is the potter.