The Mystery of Christmas

[stephen]

BGEA: The Mystery and the Mission of Christmas

 

[INRI]

Interesting article. Thanks, Stephen!

A few comments, mostly on the fully God/fully Man doctrine the article starts out with...

The virtue in the whole percentage concept is that it divides everything up into parts of 100. It stops making sense to say something is 100% twice. If we can say something is 100% of one and 100% of another, it seems like it could go on forever. If somebody comes along and says Jesus was also 100% woman or 100% rhino or 100% shark, I have a basis to call shenanigans on the basis of mathematics, while Christian doctrine's only recourse is to show that he didn't have ovaries or a horn or gills. If we allow for Jesus to be fully two things, than being fully three or four or five things isn't much of a stretch either. To say something is 100% twice debauches the idea of his divinity, of what a person is, and most importantly the entire concept of percentages. So, at best, he was 50% of one and 50% of the other. Although, I would say since there are countless men who claim to be deities in various forms throughout history, who we would no doubt believe false, he was most likely only 100% human.

 

[The Robster]

Articles like that one would have more impact if they actually discussed EVEVRYTHING that Jesus accomplished at the Cross with His perfect work. Salvation is a wonderful gift but its not the only thing Jesus did for us at the Cross. And to omit all the other things Jesus did with His suffering and perfect work at the Cross, is just not right.

 

[stephen]

Interesting article. Thanks, Stephen!

A few comments, mostly on the fully God/fully Man doctrine the article starts out with...

The virtue in the whole percentage concept is that it divides everything up into parts of 100. It stops making sense to say something is 100% twice. If we can say something is 100% of one and 100% of another, it seems like it could go on forever. If somebody comes along and says Jesus was also 100% woman or 100% rhino or 100% shark, I have a basis to call shenanigans on the basis of mathematics, while Christian doctrine's only recourse is to show that he didn't have ovaries or a horn or gills. If we allow for Jesus to be fully two things, than being fully three or four or five things isn't much of a stretch either. To say something is 100% twice debauches the idea of his divinity, of what a person is, and most importantly the entire concept of percentages. So, at best, he was 50% of one and 50% of the other. Although, I would say since there are countless men who claim to be deities in various forms throughout history, who we would no doubt believe false, he was most likely only 100% human.

I agree with your thoughts in the sense that the human mind cannot grasp the Divinity/Humanity of Jesus.

John 1.1. In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same was in the biginning with God.
The Word refers to Christ v14. Rev:19.13. Rev:2.8. Rev:22:13-16. and proves His pre-existence
Micah:5.1-2. Rev:1.8. Rev:1.11. He is an eternal Being as are also the Father and the Holy Spirit. Ps:90.1-2. Heb:9.14. They make the Divine Trinity.
Not only was the Word "with God" but He "was God" and always will be as much Divine as the other two members of the Trinity. Ps:45.6-7. Isaiah:9.6-7. Jn:1.1. Heb:1:8-12.

John:1.14. And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotton of the Father) full of grace and truth.
"Made flesh" Not spirit man, not God. And earthly not heavenly. This made Him God's Son.
Jesus is, and was, and always will be the "the only begotton Son" of God v14. v18. Jn:3:16. 1.John:4.9.
Men never will be "begotton" or "born" in the same sense that Jesus was. Mtt:1.18-25. Luke 1:34-35. for their sonship is on a different basis - that of adoption, not an actual begetting and coming into existence. Rom:8.15. Rom:9.4. Gal:4.5. Eph:1.5.

 

[stephen]

Articles like that one would have more impact if they actually discussed EVEVRYTHING that Jesus accomplished at the Cross with His perfect work. Salvation is a wonderful gift but its not the only thing Jesus did for us at the Cross. And to omit all the other things Jesus did with His suffering and perfect work at the Cross, is just not right.

Hi brother.

I posted the article for its ref. to the Christmas story.

The mighty triumphal work of Jesus on the cross when he "spoiled Principalities and Powers making a show of them, and openly triumphing over them in it" will surely be discussed as the Easter season approaches.

Not that we are bound by the calander, surely not. However the calander and the seasons do allow expression for the gospel message. And at times give good opportunity to proclaim a particular gospel truth.

 

[Seeker Of Jesus]

Thanks for sharing this with us stephen. Loved the artical.