Women

[Beetow]

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Fortunately the rules spelled out by 1Tim 2:11 & 1Cor 14:34-38 are limited to
congregational activities because I can whole-heartedly recommend at least one
woman on the internet that everyone can enjoy regardless of age, race, or gender.

She's a very pleasant lady named Tera-Leigh Cobble hosting a YouTube channel
called The Bible Recap. Terah-Leigh's commentary isn't seminary-depth, rather, it's
a casual journey thru the entire Bible over the course of one year and then loops
beginning in January.

Tera-Leigh's daily remarks are easily located by searching for them by day number
and book; for example she recently kicked off in Genesis by the label:

The Bible Recap
Day 001:Gen 1-3
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[bountifulove4]

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I believe that when Christians explain their faith in the Original Transmission of the manuscripts it should be in love, patience and kindness with all honesty and perseverance for the truth.

Please consider that there were a at least 6 total female prophets in the Old Testament

1. the unnamed Female Prophetess in Isaiah 8:3
2. Anna
3. Mariam
4. Juldah
5. Noadiah
6. Deborah

The New Testament mentions 4 female prophets: as - the four daughters of Philip the evangelist.
also we see passages such as

Joe 2:28 I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh ........ your daughters shall prophesy,
1Co 11:5 all women that ............ prophecy

Gal 3:28 .......... there is neither male and female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
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Regarding - 1Ti 2:11

:11 Let the woman learn in peacefulness “ quietness “ ἡσυχία - hēsuchia
with all subjection.

This is not the Greek word " Σιγάω - sigaō " - meaning silence. In the manuscripts the Greek word is = peacefulness - quietness “ ἡσυχία - hēsuchi

This is the word meaning peacefulness and quietness / quietly - meaning { not making a lot of noise } - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchia - hay-soo-khee'-ah - Meaning = stillness, that is, desistance from bustle or language: - quietness. “ No loud and noisy talking while learning. “ peacefully


The translation CHANGED the original Greek word “ quietness “ peacefully - into silence – but only when regarding women the Bible as it says that women who are learning about God are to learn = “ quietly “ - -

This is not the same Greek word “ SILENCE “----- the word “ SILENCE “ is " Σιγάω - sigaō " - see-gah'-o = To keep SILENT ( - keep close (secret, silence),

= peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi " has absolutely nothing to do with being Σιγάω - sigaō “ SILENT “

Yet - the translations correctly translate the same exact word - to say “ quietness “ - in 2Th 3:12 - The disorderly people in church are to worship in “ peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi "“ ......and they work, and eat their own bread.

they change it into the word silence only when it involves women.

The Greek word is == peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi "

These verses below are how this word is used,

2Th 3:12 The disorderly in the church are commanded that - with “peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi "..............“ they work

1Ti 2:2 Kings, and all in authority -- may lead a “ peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi "......... life .

1Pe 3:4 a meek and “ peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi "............ “ spirit

Act 22:2 when they heard that " Paul " spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more peacefully “ quietly “ ἡσυχία - hēsuchia

Here in Acts 22: 2...... the authors are explaining that the people were not being completely silent, but they simply became even more peacefully “ quietness “ ἡσυχία - hēsuchia " than before, when Paul began speaking in the Hebrew tongue

- they were not completely silent,........ and the translation correctly translates as it is in the manuscript.

1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in peacefulness “ quietness “ ἡσυχία - hēsuchia ..

Here is when the Greek word silent is used in the manuscripts
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1Co 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Act 15:12 Then all the multitude kept Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
1Co 14:30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first kept Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Rom 16:25 Jesus Christ.......the revelation of the mystery, which was kept Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Act 15:13 And after they had been Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Act 15:12 Then all the multitude kept were Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Act 12:17 But he, beckoning unto them with the hand to be Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Luk 20:26 and they marvelled at his answer, and were Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Luk 9:36 Jesus was found alone. And they kept it Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT

truly from the manuscripts ;;;;;

.......the only single instance where woman are commanded to keep silence is concerning the women in the service who are directly involved in the service, where speaking in tongues is ongoing

- saying ---- EVERYONE IS TO BE SILENT -and if ( the women “ “ WILL OR WOULD “ KNOW “ A CERTAIN THING..
- let them ask their husbands IN the home - for it is a shame for women to say in the church.

this is only speaking of the situation directly involving church order within the situation where someone is speaking in tongues - that, " complete SILENCE " ALSO - involves ALL MALES
/ ALL OF THE ENTIRE CHURCH IS TO KEEP SILENT “........

.....and if ..... ( the women “ WILL OR WOULD “ KNOW “ A CERTAIN THING INOLVING SOMEONE SPEAKING IN TONGUES .. - let them ask their husbands in the home - for it is a shame for women to say in the church.

but this is a commandment for all the church to be silent and then the passage moves on to women who want to speak out and while someone is speaking in tongues and begin a investigation and questioning things like where................
women in this particular situation he was addressing were speaking and asking / questioning :36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

there was disruption, - wives, who were so very excited, passionate and wanted to know right away were longing to know if the word of God was coming from particular individuals and how and who - and just basic curiosity were asking their husbands with curiosity and amazement ...

Paul addresses this ..... in simple Greek language ... you can check yourself....... if i am wrong, please let me know.

Paul was probably dealing with people men and woman who were new to the Gospel, single women and men and also married and families and he was saying everyone is to be completely - Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT - while someone is in the process of speaking in tongues.

men and women were reacting differently, and Paul was addressing this to married woman who were probably wanting to communicate about things while the process was ongoing and longing to know things that simply could not be explained with the human mind and it probably became a disruption where the males were wanting to really have a one on one conversation with their wives while the service was ongoing... married couples. ...

- Paul was not trying to begin the Church Of Rome
nor the Church Of England

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[bountifulove4]

the manuscript message shows that Paul is saying that even a male, - a male - in authority - αυθεντειν - an authentic male

an - authenteō - male

a man who is fully authorized with all authority to preach - he himself , - he must preach in in quietness / calmness – peacefulness.

A man in authority, himself, he must preach in calmness and peacefulness


:12 γυναικι women - δε also / as well - διδασκειν teaching - ουκ not - επιτρεπω permitted - ουδε neither - αυθεντειν an authentic - ανδρος male - αλλ unless - ειναι they be - εν in - ησυχια quietness / calmness / peacefulness ’


meaning - 1Ti 2:12

a woman also teaching not I allow, neither an " authenteō / authorized " man
unless / but who are in quietness / peacefulness

Paul then moves to explain, warning about deceptions, saying how that the woman - Eve was deceived

men and woman each have their frailties and faults and are different, and Paul addresses these things letting the reader know that even a male who is authenticated and in authority to preach

- - an " authenteō / authorized " man

he will not suffer even a male in authority to teach unless .. αλλ - unless / else
in .... εν in - ησυχια quietness / calmness / peacefulness ’
- the same for women who teach -

Basically, instead of saying it like - no woman is allowed to teach, he commands that even males are not allowed who are disruptive and even authentic males in authority " but if not peaceful
" - --- he then calls to remember how that Eve was deceived and also Adam was first formed by God.. its just something to consider and know and remember as women are prophesying and teaching.....

its just Paul's style of writing, as he is led by the Spirit Of Holy, he is doing everything he can to make sure the Church is ready with all the information he can provide.....
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else

 

[Deep Seeker]

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I believe that when Christians explain their faith in the Original Transmission of the manuscripts it should be in love, patience and kindness with all honesty and perseverance for the truth.

Please consider that there were a at least 6 total female prophets in the Old Testament

1. the unnamed Female Prophetess in Isaiah 8:3
2. Anna
3. Mariam
4. Juldah
5. Noadiah
6. Deborah

The New Testament mentions 4 female prophets: as - the four daughters of Philip the evangelist.
also we see passages such as

Joe 2:28 I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh ........ your daughters shall prophesy,
1Co 11:5 all women that ............ prophecy

Gal 3:28 .......... there is neither male and female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
​

Regarding - 1Ti 2:11

:11 Let the woman learn in peacefulness “ quietness “ ἡσυχία - hēsuchia
with all subjection.

This is not the Greek word " Σιγάω - sigaō " - meaning silence. In the manuscripts the Greek word is = peacefulness - quietness “ ἡσυχία - hēsuchi

This is the word meaning peacefulness and quietness / quietly - meaning { not making a lot of noise } - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchia - hay-soo-khee'-ah - Meaning = stillness, that is, desistance from bustle or language: - quietness. “ No loud and noisy talking while learning. “ peacefully


The translation CHANGED the original Greek word “ quietness “ peacefully - into silence – but only when regarding women the Bible as it says that women who are learning about God are to learn = “ quietly “ - -

This is not the same Greek word “ SILENCE “----- the word “ SILENCE “ is " Σιγάω - sigaō " - see-gah'-o = To keep SILENT ( - keep close (secret, silence),

= peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi " has absolutely nothing to do with being Σιγάω - sigaō “ SILENT “

Yet - the translations correctly translate the same exact word - to say “ quietness “ - in 2Th 3:12 - The disorderly people in church are to worship in “ peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi "“ ......and they work, and eat their own bread.

they change it into the word silence only when it involves women.

The Greek word is == peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi "

These verses below are how this word is used,

2Th 3:12 The disorderly in the church are commanded that - with “peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi "..............“ they work

1Ti 2:2 Kings, and all in authority -- may lead a “ peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi "......... life .

1Pe 3:4 a meek and “ peacefulness - quietly - ἡσυχία - hēsuchi "............ “ spirit

Act 22:2 when they heard that " Paul " spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more peacefully “ quietly “ ἡσυχία - hēsuchia

Here in Acts 22: 2...... the authors are explaining that the people were not being completely silent, but they simply became even more peacefully “ quietness “ ἡσυχία - hēsuchia " than before, when Paul began speaking in the Hebrew tongue

- they were not completely silent,........ and the translation correctly translates as it is in the manuscript.

1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in peacefulness “ quietness “ ἡσυχία - hēsuchia ..

Here is when the Greek word silent is used in the manuscripts
​

1Co 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Act 15:12 Then all the multitude kept Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
1Co 14:30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first kept Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Rom 16:25 Jesus Christ.......the revelation of the mystery, which was kept Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Act 15:13 And after they had been Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Act 15:12 Then all the multitude kept were Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Act 12:17 But he, beckoning unto them with the hand to be Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Luk 20:26 and they marvelled at his answer, and were Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT
Luk 9:36 Jesus was found alone. And they kept it Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT

truly from the manuscripts ;;;;;

.......the only single instance where woman are commanded to keep silence is concerning the women in the service who are directly involved in the service, where speaking in tongues is ongoing

- saying ---- EVERYONE IS TO BE SILENT -and if ( the women “ “ WILL OR WOULD “ KNOW “ A CERTAIN THING..
- let them ask their husbands IN the home - for it is a shame for women to say in the church.

this is only speaking of the situation directly involving church order within the situation where someone is speaking in tongues - that, " complete SILENCE " ALSO - involves ALL MALES
/ ALL OF THE ENTIRE CHURCH IS TO KEEP SILENT “........

.....and if ..... ( the women “ WILL OR WOULD “ KNOW “ A CERTAIN THING INOLVING SOMEONE SPEAKING IN TONGUES .. - let them ask their husbands in the home - for it is a shame for women to say in the church.

but this is a commandment for all the church to be silent and then the passage moves on to women who want to speak out and while someone is speaking in tongues and begin a investigation and questioning things like where................
women in this particular situation he was addressing were speaking and asking / questioning :36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

there was disruption, - wives, who were so very excited, passionate and wanted to know right away were longing to know if the word of God was coming from particular individuals and how and who - and just basic curiosity were asking their husbands with curiosity and amazement ...

Paul addresses this ..... in simple Greek language ... you can check yourself....... if i am wrong, please let me know.

Paul was probably dealing with people men and woman who were new to the Gospel, single women and men and also married and families and he was saying everyone is to be completely - Σιγάω - sigaō " - SILENT - while someone is in the process of speaking in tongues.

men and women were reacting differently, and Paul was addressing this to married woman who were probably wanting to communicate about things while the process was ongoing and longing to know things that simply could not be explained with the human mind and it probably became a disruption where the males were wanting to really have a one on one conversation with their wives while the service was ongoing... married couples. ...

- Paul was not trying to begin the Church Of Rome
nor the Church Of England

​

Very Good !