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why not me?

steve1979

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I read a post today where a guy was asking about speaking in toungues. I know this is a hot topic so I won't get into detail but i will pose a question. why not me? when i got saved i was radically converted, and felt the presence of God heavy for months after. I am well aquanted with His presence. If i preached that everybody should recieve salvation accompanied with that experience (feeling presence for months), it would be false. i would be sacraficing my personal experience over biblical truth. many people have experiences with the gift of toungues and say that all people should do it, and thus doctrines are born. i asked and asked for that gift for so long when i got saved and still ask for it and seek after it. to no avail. there are clearly the have's and have not's. it makes me feel inferior. Jesus said ask and you shall recieve, and if you ask for bread will you get a stone matthew 7:9. in 1st corinthians ch 12 vs 30 paul poses a question also " do all speak in tongues? do all have gifts of healing? do all prophesy? obviously not. can somebody tell me why not me?
 
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Steve there are some posts on this subject already. Below is one of them.

http://www.talkjesus.com/bible-chat/10809-tongues-2.html?highlight=speaking+tongues

I also found this online too.

God bless you :love:

Question: "What is the gift of speaking in tongues? Is the gift of speaking in tongues for today?"

Answer: The first occurrence of speaking in tongues occurred on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2:1-4. The apostles went out and shared the Gospel with the crowds, speaking to them in their own languages, “we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!" (Acts 2:11). The Greek word translated "tongues" literally means "languages." Therefore, the gift of tongues is speaking in a language a person does not know in order to minister to someone who does speak that language. In 1 Corinthians chapters 12-14, where Paul discusses miraculous gifts, he comments that, “Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?" (1 Corinthians 14:6). According to the Apostle Paul, and in agreement with the tongues described in Acts, speaking in tongues is valuable to the one hearing God’s message in his/her own language, but it is useless to everyone else – unless it is interpreted / translated.

A person with the gift of interpreting tongues (1 Corinthians 12:30) could understand what a tongues-speaker was saying even though he/she did not know the language that was being spoken. The tongues-interpreter would then communicate the message of the tongues-speaker to everyone else, so all could understand. “For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret what he says” (1 Corinthians 14:13). Paul’s conclusion regarding un-interpreted tongues is powerful, “But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue" (1 Corinthians 14:19).

Is the gift of tongues for today? 1 Corinthians 13:8 mentions the gift of tongues ceasing, although it connects the ceasing with the arrival of the "perfect" in 1 Corinthians 13:10. Some point to a difference in the language in prophecy and knowledge "ceasing" with tongues "being ceased" as evidence for tongues ceasing before the arrival of the "perfect." While possible, this is not explicitly clear from the text. Some also point to passages such as Isaiah 28:11 and Joel 2:28-29 as evidence that speaking in tongues was a sign of God's oncoming judgment. 1 Corinthians 14:22 describes tongues as a "sign to unbelievers." According to this argument, the gift of tongues was a warning to the Jews that God was going to judge Israel for rejecting Jesus Christ as Messiah. Therefore, when God did in fact judge Israel (with the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in A.D. 70), the gift of tongues would no longer serve its intended purpose. While this view is possible, the primary purpose of tongues being fulfilled does not necessarily demand its cessation. Scripture does not conclusively assert that the gift of speaking in tongues has ceased.

At the same time, if the gift of speaking in tongues were active in the church today, it would be performed in agreement with Scripture. It would be a real and intelligible language (1 Corinthians 14:10). It would be for the purpose of communicating God's Word with a person of another language (Acts 2:6-12). It would be in agreement with the command that God gave through the Apostle Paul, "If anyone speaks in a tongue, two — or at the most three — should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God" (1 Corinthians 14:27-28). It would also be in submission to 1 Corinthians 14:33, “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”

God most definitely can give a person the gift of speaking in tongues to enable him/her to communicate with a person who speaks another language. The Holy Spirit is sovereign in the dispersion of the spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 12:11). Just imagine how much more productive missionaries could be if they didn’t have to go to language school, and were instantly able to speak to people in their own language. However, God does not seem to be doing this. Tongues does not seem to occur today in the form it did in the New Testament despite the fact that it would be immensely useful. The vast majority of believers who claim to practice the gift of speaking in tongues do not do so in agreement with the Scriptures mentioned above. These facts lead to the conclusion that the gift of tongues has ceased, or is at least a rarity in God's plan for the church today.
 
Clear and concise

Hi ladylovesJesus. I just read your reply to steven and find your words informative and wise. I liked the brief mention of history, when you mentioned the destruction of Jerusalem by the romans in AD 70.
Going a little off topic here Steven, but I was just wondering ladylovesJesus, what happened with the romans around 300 AD? Wasn't there a terrible division in Christian fellowship.
I love to hear the history of Christ.
Steven, you are so blessed to feel the love of Christ inside you. God is with you to guide you. ladylovesJesus is insightful and I don't think I could add any more, without just repeating parts of what she wrote to you.
God will grace you with gifts steven, and I pray that you continue to grace our Lord, with your love for Him. Amen:Pixie
 
"Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." (Mk 11:24).

We are often told in Scripture that where prayerful petition is concerned, if we do not allow doubt to take root in our hearts, we will have what we ask, But nowhere does the Bible put a timeline on how long the answer will take.

There are many reasons why our answers are delayed, not the least of which is demonic interference (see Daniel 10:12-13). Hang in there, Steve. You're not the only one who has waited a long time for a response to prayer.


SLE
 
1 Corinthians 6:11

6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same<sup>[a]</sup> Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.
 
I read a post today where a guy was asking about speaking in toungues. I know this is a hot topic so I won't get into detail but i will pose a question. why not me? when i got saved i was radically converted, and felt the presence of God heavy for months after. I am well aquanted with His presence. If i preached that everybody should recieve salvation accompanied with that experience (feeling presence for months), it would be false. i would be sacraficing my personal experience over biblical truth. many people have experiences with the gift of toungues and say that all people should do it, and thus doctrines are born. i asked and asked for that gift for so long when i got saved and still ask for it and seek after it. to no avail. there are clearly the have's and have not's. it makes me feel inferior. Jesus said ask and you shall recieve, and if you ask for bread will you get a stone matthew 7:9. in 1st corinthians ch 12 vs 30 paul poses a question also " do all speak in tongues? do all have gifts of healing? do all prophesy? obviously not. can somebody tell me why not me?

Good post from ladylovesJesus. I'll only add that if you don't speak in tongues it's because it's not necessary. You already have confirmation that you have been baptized in the Holy Spirit. The notion that everyone who is Spirit-filled should speak in tongues is a false doctrine, in my opinion. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I think that if it happens at all, it's relatively rare. Too many people use it to try and impress others or as a way to gain acceptance.
 
i believe you're right homeward

God gave me this scripture over and over again to give me peace. 1st corinthians ch 12 vs 13, sounds like the baptism of the spirit to me the entrance into the body of Christ. its obvious everyone doesn't have this experience, my grandma has been saved for 40 year and is full of wisdom and experience with God, and has never spoke in tongues. thanks my friend
 
Steve.

God is wise. He uses us as He wants, someone speaking in tongues, others speaking in their own languages; but in both God is doin' what is better for us.
Keep in your heart the promise of our Lord "I will be with you every day till the end" So, my brother, don't stop preachin' the gospel in it's essence. Contemporary. Universal. Effective.
 
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