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Christian marriage is a union of love between husband and wife, in which, God who is love, is the binding force (Matt 19:6). In other words, God unites husband and wife. In His plan they are no longer two, but one (Gen 2:24; Matt 19:5; Eph 5:31). This means that they have to surrender their entire being to the other and husbands have to love their wife as Christ loves His Church (Eph 5:25). In fact their bond is stronger than that between them and their parents; they therefore, leave their parents and unite with their spouse (Mark 10:7). Because God is the binding force in their union and God is unchanging (Malachi 3:6), it is impossible to break the bond (Matt 19:6). Jesus clearly tells us that no one should separate what God has joined together (Matt 19:6). Therefore, even when divorced people remarry, their first spouse is the only real spouse. Therefore, sexual relationship with any other person becomes adultery (Luke 16:18). Since God is the binding force, an attempt at rejecting the bond is an attempt at rejecting God. Divorce is therefore, against God. God therefore, hates divorce (Malachi 2:16) and is not pleased with the offerings of those who divorce their spouse (Malachi 2: 13-14). Divorce is absolutely prohibited by Jesus (Mk 10:11-12, Luke 6:18), except when the marriage was illicit (Matt 5:32). The word in the Greek text for this exemption is porneia; which in no way means adultery (the Greek word for adultery is moiceia).

Forgiveness is the very heart of Christianity, because, Christianity has to do with redemption and redemption has to do with forgiveness. The whole redemption history revolves around God’s forgiveness. Although we are continually unfaithful to God He does not abandon us; on the contrary He sacrificed His own life to compensate for the sins (Matthew 26:27-28) we committed against Him. If we have to accept His forgiveness we have to believe in it by showing the same type of forgiveness to others (Matt 6:12)-especially our spouse. We must never give up, because, God does not give up on us. Sometimes, the stresses of marriage may seem unbearable, especially if our spouse is alcoholic, abusive, mentally ill or unfaithful. In such situations, we can stay faithful to our commitment; by remembering, how Jesus compensated for our wrong doings, when we were unfaithful to him and wronged him. We should continually pray and make sacrifices for the conversion of our spouse. In our prayers, we should surrender ourselves completely to God’s will, and ask Him to be our thoughts, feelings, desires and actions.
 
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Thanks for posting such a bold truth from Gods word ! There are Christians getting divorced now more than the world and the church leaders standing by and not saying a thing about it because they might upset there financial empires . Woe unto them who allow Spirit Filled Christians divorce without putting Gods word first . God hates divorce ! If people got divorced before they got saved , Gods grace will cover it over . But I just watched a 17 year marriage end in divorce for very minor reasons , mostly mid-life crises was the reason .

The whole church council/leadership did not step in or say anything , even when the scripture was brought up in front of them ! Why ? Because the girls family were big tithers in the church , so Gods word is second . The family is now divorced and the 6 children are all in the psychiatrist office 2 times a week . Because of the Spine-less Church leaders that would not make a stand for fear of losing money . Sickening and getting worse every day . Mike
 
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It is like a song I recently heard where the singer asks his wife why they are still together and their friends are breaking up and she replies, "Because we are doing what we promised to do." When you get married you promise to be there, for better or worse. When you get a divorce you are breaking that promise you made and are actually lying. Worse than that you are lying to God.

God Bless
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As much as I agree

As much as I agree that too many christians are getting divorced, Jesus says in the Book of Matthew that one may get divorced for marital unfaithfulness.

Also, personally, I would not tolerate much wife battering. If my husban did it, got help, and despite the help, continued to hit me, I'd divorce him for my own mental health. :shade:
 
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arunangelo said:
Christian marriage is a union of love between husband and wife, in which, God who is love, is the binding force (Matt 19:6). In other words, God unites husband and wife. In His plan they are no longer two, but one (Gen 2:24; Matt 19:5; Eph 5:31). This means that they have to surrender their entire being to the other and husbands have to love their wife as Christ loves His Church (Eph 5:25). In fact their bond is stronger than that between them and their parents; they therefore, leave their parents and unite with their spouse (Mark 10:7). Because God is the binding force in their union and God is unchanging (Malachi 3:6), it is impossible to break the bond (Matt 19:6). Jesus clearly tells us that no one should separate what God has joined together (Matt 19:6). Therefore, even when divorced people remarry, their first spouse is the only real spouse. Therefore, sexual relationship with any other person becomes adultery (Luke 16:18). Since God is the binding force, an attempt at rejecting the bond is an attempt at rejecting God. Divorce is therefore, against God. God therefore, hates divorce (Malachi 2:16) and is not pleased with the offerings of those who divorce their spouse (Malachi 2: 13-14). Divorce is absolutely prohibited by Jesus (Mk 10:11-12, Luke 6:18), except when the marriage was illicit (Matt 5:32). The word in the Greek text for this exemption is porneia; which in no way means adultery (the Greek word for adultery is moiceia).

Forgiveness is the very heart of Christianity, because, Christianity has to do with redemption and redemption has to do with forgiveness. The whole redemption history revolves around God’s forgiveness. Although we are continually unfaithful to God He does not abandon us; on the contrary He sacrificed His own life to compensate for the sins (Matthew 26:27-28) we committed against Him. If we have to accept His forgiveness we have to believe in it by showing the same type of forgiveness to others (Matt 6:12)-especially our spouse. We must never give up, because, God does not give up on us. Sometimes, the stresses of marriage may seem unbearable, especially if our spouse is alcoholic, abusive, mentally ill or unfaithful. In such situations, we can stay faithful to our commitment; by remembering, how Jesus compensated for our wrong doings, when we were unfaithful to him and wronged him. We should continually pray and make sacrifices for the conversion of our spouse. In our prayers, we should surrender ourselves completely to God’s will, and ask Him to be our thoughts, feelings, desires and actions.
A pastor friend of mine once asked a very important question regarding this issue: Is EVERY marriage "put together" by God?

What about "shotgun marriages", where the boy gets the girl pregnant and is forced to marry her? What about marriages between young men and young women who are legally of age, but are immature and can't see past the romantic pink cloud? What about marriages that might come about so the partners can settle some legal issue?

I'm talking about marriages between men and women who never consulted God to learn His will for them in the choice of marriage partners.
 
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The word in the Greek text for this exemption is porneia; which in no way means adultery (the Greek word for adultery is moiceia).
Porneia from NASB Greek Lexicon

illicit sexual intercourse

1. adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.
2. sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18
3. sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mk. 10:11,


Feel free to be accurite with your information.
 
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Jesushyper said:
As much as I agree that too many christians are getting divorced, Jesus says in the Book of Matthew that one may get divorced for marital unfaithfulness.

Also, personally, I would not tolerate much wife battering. If my husban did it, got help, and despite the help, continued to hit me, I'd divorce him for my own mental health. :shade:
Sister I agree with you about Adultery or any spine-less man who beats his wife . He should be locked up in jail for that . But the silence in the Leaders about divorce and the give up and go on mentality is morally wrong .

A church group is also a family who can agree in prayer , and confront these issues when they arise in their congregations . If a man is beating his wife , or even mentally abusing her , he should be held accountable as the head of the home by the leaders in the body . His wife should expose him before the body and not hide behind false love . The word of God said we are to love our wives as Jesus Christ loved the church .

I feel the same about these dead-beat men who make their wives and family suffer under poverty because they will not work because of this male macho garbage . If a man wants to be the head of his home and have his wife submit to his authority in the home . Then let him become as Christ to her and put down his hitting hands and fat mouth and form praying hands and a mouth that washes his wife with the water of Gods word as Christ did .

Authority for Jesus Christ came with the price of his own life to save us . If a man wants to have this authority , he must also sacrifice his life for his wife and family . If Christ had not gone to the cross , then all would have been lost . Go to the cross men ! You will be the one who stands before Jesus Christ on the day of Judgement for what you did for your wife and children . Authority comes with a price . Pay the price and lay aside yourselves to become as Christ , or the body should hold you just as accountable as Christ will . Mike
 
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khabboora said:
Malachi 2:16 "I hate divorce," says the Lord God of Israel. "I hate it when one of you does such a cruel thing to his wife. Make sure that you do not break your promise to be faithful to your wife." (GNT)
16 "I hate divorce," says the LORD God of Israel, "and I hate a man's covering himself [f] with violence as well as with his garment," says the LORD Almighty. So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith. (NIV)
16 For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously. (KJV)

I know why God hates divorce. It hurts people.
i think god hates it because it is about seperation.

3 things i thought of. 1) god joins things together man and woman
us and him
(jesus died for that reason)

2) god is eternal- like a circle without a join in it

3) but sometimes God didnt put them together in the first place like ED says
 
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Divorce is never a good thing, but when my dad just walked out on my mom while she was at work and I was at school, enough was enough. The way he did it was a cowardly thing to me. My mom did not deserve that at all. When She got married again 14 years later, I had not seen her so happy in a very long time. She didn't want to rush into anything or make any plans before she was married again. My grand dad was really sick at the time and she didn't want to get married and leave the states. Her current husband works for an oil company over seas. She turned him down a few years ago the first time he asked. 10 months after my granddad died, she married and was happy until the day she died.
 
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A lot of people get married who do not believe in GOD.

So they were never truly married in the first place.
 
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Marriage

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A lot of people get married who do not believe in GOD.

So they were never truly married in the first place.
I disagree with the 2nd statement here. If you take a vow, whether you are a Christian or not, the vow is legal and binding.

God did not say that unbelievers were to be freed from all vows.

A marriage is a marriage whether we are believers or not.

But, we do have a God that forgives.
Kathy
 
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arunangelo said:
Christian marriage is a union of love between husband and wife, in which, God who is love, is the binding force (Matt 19:6). In other words, God unites husband and wife. In His plan they are no longer two, but one (Gen 2:24; Matt 19:5; Eph 5:31). This means that they have to surrender their entire being to the other and husbands have to love their wife as Christ loves His Church (Eph 5:25). In fact their bond is stronger than that between them and their parents; they therefore, leave their parents and unite with their spouse (Mark 10:7). Because God is the binding force in their union and God is unchanging (Malachi 3:6), it is impossible to break the bond (Matt 19:6). Jesus clearly tells us that no one should separate what God has joined together (Matt 19:6). Therefore, even when divorced people remarry, their first spouse is the only real spouse. Therefore, sexual relationship with any other person becomes adultery (Luke 16:18). Since God is the binding force, an attempt at rejecting the bond is an attempt at rejecting God. Divorce is therefore, against God. God therefore, hates divorce (Malachi 2:16) and is not pleased with the offerings of those who divorce their spouse (Malachi 2: 13-14). Divorce is absolutely prohibited by Jesus (Mk 10:11-12, Luke 6:18), except when the marriage was illicit (Matt 5:32). The word in the Greek text for this exemption is porneia; which in no way means adultery (the Greek word for adultery is moiceia).

Forgiveness is the very heart of Christianity, because, Christianity has to do with redemption and redemption has to do with forgiveness. The whole redemption history revolves around God’s forgiveness. Although we are continually unfaithful to God He does not abandon us; on the contrary He sacrificed His own life to compensate for the sins (Matthew 26:27-28) we committed against Him. If we have to accept His forgiveness we have to believe in it by showing the same type of forgiveness to others (Matt 6:12)-especially our spouse. We must never give up, because, God does not give up on us. Sometimes, the stresses of marriage may seem unbearable, especially if our spouse is alcoholic, abusive, mentally ill or unfaithful. In such situations, we can stay faithful to our commitment; by remembering, how Jesus compensated for our wrong doings, when we were unfaithful to him and wronged him. We should continually pray and make sacrifices for the conversion of our spouse. In our prayers, we should surrender ourselves completely to God’s will, and ask Him to be our thoughts, feelings, desires and actions.
That was awesomely said! But I have question. What about the brothers & sisters whom have divorced & then remarried before they came to know GOD or HIS Word Jesus Christ? Their ex-spouses are still alive, but they divorced their ex-spouses before they had the true Christian facts. and have been serving GOD ever since?
 
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I have a question. I dont know if the answer was already stated though. So if it was forgive me :smile:

If a christian women married a non christian man, and the man leaves the wife. The women is not held accountable in Gods eyes correct? And is the women allowed to re marry? Of course to someone that God has intended.
 
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As far as I can make out Jessid9 the woman would not be held responsible if the man chose to leave. 1 Corinthians 7:15 "But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace." Again as far as I know yes the woman is free to re-marry again.
 
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Thank you sunshine. that is what I had thought. But I had troubles finding the scriptures to say it. GBU
 
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The state of marriages these days is a sorry sorry sorry sight. Alot of people get married and no sooner are they married than they are divorced before there first or second anniversary. I really blame culture for alot of it. Television and Music of the unjust.

All that can be seen on tv now is sex sex sex. Sex is sold in the lyrics of songs as hip and cool and so now (so not now) and programs are full of it, there's always some married man or woman in a soap jumping into a neighbours bed. films are all about it too. Even in kids films there are insinuations at sex which a child wouldn't pick up on but adults do.

There is so much temptation out there for weak people. It gets them thinking of having affairs or it gets them to divorce each other cause they've seen others do it. It's ridiculous the whole thing is insane.

The media tries to feed that if we do what a celebrity does we can be like them and be happy. But if we unite and live with God then marriages would stand a better fighting chance.

There's too much selfishness in the world. Marriage is till death do us part not until the price of your house rises, Amen.

God Bless
 
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jessid9 said:
Thank you sunshine. that is what I had thought. But I had troubles finding the scriptures to say it. GBU
Hi Jessid- I'd like you offer a few bible references for you to consider. Matthew 19:9, Mark 10:11-12, Luke 16:18, Romans 7:2-3, 1Cor. 7:39 all state that remarriage after divorce, to someone other than the original covenant spouse, is adultry.
When Matthew 19:9 gives the 'exception' of fornication, he is writing to primarily a Jewish culture. It was the Jewish culture that understood that Jesus was talking about the betrothal custom in this verse. During the betrothal period (of about 1 year), if the bride-to-be were found to not be a virgin, she could be divorced or 'put away'. This is the ONLY time Jesus allowed divorce.
A very helpful site dealing with all the questions of marriage, divorce and remarriage is: Hope this helps! Blessings in Him!
 
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Matthew 5:32
But I say unto you,That whosoever shall put away his wife,saving for the cause of fornication, causes herto commit adultr:and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced commits adultry.
Matthew 19:9
And I say unto you,Whosoever shall put away his wife,except it be for fornication,and shall marry another,commits adultry:and whosoever marries her which is put away does commit adultry.
(What did Jesus mean when He said"except it be for fornication")?
 
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Quote from post 1 of this thread.
Forgiveness is the very heart of Christianity, because, Christianity has to do with redemption and redemption has to do with forgiveness. The whole redemption history revolves around God’s forgiveness. Although we are continually unfaithful to God He does not abandon us; on the contrary He sacrificed His own life to compensate for the sins (Matthew 26:27-28) we committed against Him. If we have to accept His forgiveness we have to believe in it by showing the same type of forgiveness to others (Matt 6:12)-especially our spouse. We must never give up, because, God does not give up on us. Sometimes, the stresses of marriage may seem unbearable, especially if our spouse is alcoholic, abusive, mentally ill or unfaithful. In such situations, we can stay faithful to our commitment; by remembering, how Jesus compensated for our wrong doings, when we were unfaithful to him and wronged him. We should continually pray and make sacrifices for the conversion of our spouse. In our prayers, we should surrender ourselves completely to God’s will, and ask Him to be our thoughts, feelings, desires and actions.[/QUOTE] Quote from post 1 of this thread.

She was only 5 or 6 years of age. I hadn't seen her for a long time.
I asked her mother why does her left eyelid keep blinking.
The mother burst into tears.
I was visiting a married couple that I hadn't seen for a few years. I had gone to school with the husband. We had been very good friends. He then moved to another part of the country 2000klms from where I lived.
The mother I didn't know that well, I met her at the wedding.
When she calmed down from the crying she told me that the child was being beaten by the husband. The Doctors were still looking into how they could fix her eyelid.
I and another friend sat in shock as we heard this. We were guests of this family, sharing the family home for a few days.
The child had long hair, the mother told me how the husband would drag the child out of bed by the hair and throw her. I cannot imagine the terror that child experienced.
The Mother also was being bashed and showed us evidence of that.
She told us that she would have to leave if the new baby was starting to be hit. She told me that the husband told her that if she ever left that he would find her and kill her. She told us, that by us staying in her home the violence against her had stopped momentarily.
We didn't sleep easily after hearing all of that.
The news came within a few years that mother had disappeared. Her husband came home from work to find a empty home.
The younger child was being bashed as well.
For those who don't understand a child being bashed by a parent can lead to long term emotional damage.
The husband appeared again back near where I lived. In the following years he broke into my Aunties home and tried to rape her. His own mother had to flee when he entered her home in a rage with a gun.
He has since bashed another woman and is facing criminal charges for breaking her limb.
Statistics show that if the mother had of not fled and "kept forgiving" the husband, there would be a high risk of her or one of the children being murdered or injured, ongoing Emotional damage from this situation would occur.
Woman and Children need to be protected from domestic violence.Domestic violence is widespread, this is not a isolated incident.
A 9 year old girl was murdered by a parent in my home town this week.
Yes we are to forgive. The bible clearly states that.
However would Jesus tell her to go back for more of the same?
Some issues are not as "Black and white" as we would like them to be.
 

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