Why did Jesus never call Mary mother in the bible?

[Dave M]

Would love to here your thoughts on this


TIA

 

[Hekuran]

Have never considered this before. Can't think of a reason there should be any significance in it. What prompted the question?

 

[Dave M]

Have never considered this before. Can't think of a reason there should be any significance in it. What prompted the question?

A face book freind asked the question and as you I never considered it before, and did a little searching on it and came up with a very interesting view,

Why did Jesus never call Mary mother

Because He did not want us to worship her or to look at her as though she was a goddess.

Luke
11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed [is] the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed [are] they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Matthew
2:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, [his] mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
Catholic Answer Jesus is using all due respect and love for His mother. She plays a very important part in the economy of salvation. After all, we would not have been saved were it not for her "Fiat" at the Annunciation, when the Archangel, Gabriel, asked her to bear the Son of God, and she replied, "Fiat" - Be it done to me according to your word. She is replacing Eve, who as mother of the entire human race, gave us only sin and death. Mary, in her humble obedience, is granting to the entire human race grace and salvation. Jesus acknowledges this role for her, and gives her to all of us, through the apostle, John, as our mother. She is the "woman" who gives the world its Savior who will crush the head of Satan (Gen. 3:15). Remember that the language you are reading in the Bible is a translation of another language that is recording a culture that is over twenty centuries removed from our own. You can not color the word "woman" with the way it is used on the television in the twenty-first century and expect to understand what Jesus is saying.

 

[Lanolin]

Well actually Jesus did at the crucifixtion see John 19:25-27
He called Mary woman, but he also called her mother when he gave her to John, basically Mary adopted John as his son and John likewise adopted Mary as his mother - at Jesus' behest.

Am not sure why Jesus called Mary woman rather than mum or mother personally, but it could have been he had reservations about calling her mother or maybe it wasnt the jewish custom to at the time. I dont know. Perhaps he didnt want to single her out above all other mothers who followed God.

 

[Dave M]

NO he did not read it again

 

[B-A-C]

Did He ever call Joseph "father"?

 

[Hekuran]

Arguing from something that is absent is always a fragile approach. For my part, I don't see that there's enough evidence to construct any secure theory about why Jesus is never recorded calling his mother 'mother'.

I certainly would not feel that I would be able to persuade a Roman Catholic who venerates Mary that they are wrong on this line of argument.

 

[Lanolin]

Yes Jesus did he said woman behold thy son ...meaning John
Then said to John behold thy mother - referring to Mary.

Not sure what the big deal is, Jesus did honor his parents. He talked about this often..to the young rich ruler, following the command 'honor thy father and mother', he talked about hypocrites who didnt and just paid them off so they didnt have to look after them. At the wedding he did follow mother Marys directions to do something even though she was being a bit bossy! He turned water into wine! Jesus knew that anyone trying to put Mary on a pedastal just because she bore him was missing the point...anyone who follows God is the same as a mother, sister, or brother.

Dont know about mary replacing eve as the catholics believe but thats an interesting observation. After all it was a virgin birth and submission to the holy ghost unlike Eves method of reproduction. Still, Mary did experience sorrow and pain with having a child like Eve did, her son was killed and died! When a mother buries a child that is hard to bear. Mary was human. She wasnt granting the entire race salvation and grace, only Jesus did that. We arent saved by Mary. She played a part in the nativity yes but she doesnt save us personally. She would be the first to give glory to God and not accept others peoples worship of herself.

 

[Laura1557]

Jesus may not have directly addressed Mary as ''mother'' the way He addressed her as ''Woman,'' but that He recognized her as His mother is certainly implied in John 19:25-27. He also emphasized in Mtt 12:46-50 that relationships between Christians are of greater significance than blood relationships if the blood relatives are unbelievers. While Jesus Himself may not be recorded as calling Mary ''mother,'' the Holy Spirit writing through Matthew, Mark, Luke and John refers to her by that title in several verses by each writer.

In the Luke 1:47 (KJV) Mary herself recognizes that she is a sinner in need of a Saviour. She knew she wasn't sinless and she accepted her call to bear the Jesus with humility and praise.


Luke 1 (KJV)
46, And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
47, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
48, For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
49, For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
50, And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.
51, He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
52, He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.
53, He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.
54, He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;
55, As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
56, And Mary abode with her about three months, and returned to her own house.

Jesus isn't recorded as calling Joseph ''father,'' and the Holy Spirit writing through Matthew and Luke doesn't affirm him as such either, referring to him primarily in the context of husband and wife with Mary. In John 1:45 (KJV) Philip does call Jesus the ''son of Joseph'' but we know now that if Jesus was born of Joseph's seed, He wouldn't have been sinless, which is why it was necessary for Mary to become "with child of the Holy Ghost." (Mtt 1:18 KJV).

Salvation isn't dependent on Mary, though, it is dependent upon the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. If Mary had been unwilling, God would have no doubt passed her by and found someone who was.

 

[Bendito]

Would love to here your thoughts on this


TIA

Where does the bible say Jesus never called Mary Mother? What would he call her..."Hey! Joseph's wife! What's for brekky?"

 

[Dave M]

Where does the bible say Jesus never called Mary Mother?

I said he never called her mother in the bible,

I did not say the bible says Jesus never called Mary mother

So I can not answer your question as I am not aware of any passage that says that, Im wondering if the Greek or Hebrew word for mother might have been butchered in the English for mother I just dont know

 

[Bendito]

I said he never called her mother in the bible,

I did not say the bible says Jesus never called Mary mother

So I can not answer your question as I am not aware of any passage that says that, Im wondering if the Greek or Hebrew word for mother might have been butchered in the English for mother I just dont know

Oops! I'm sorry. LOL I must have been fooled by the title of the thread.

 

[JesusIs4Me]

Would love to here your thoughts on this


TIA

You did mention this reference later on in the thread;

Mark 3:32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. 33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? 34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

I believe that since He is representing His coming kingdom, that He would lift our sights higher to that time when every believer up there in Heaven will either be His brother, sister, mother. Scripture being holy Spirit inspired, would also point to that future reality.

As it is, you made reference to a woman lifting up His mother and Jesus agreed but yet deferred her from doing that to something higher in practice instead.

Whether He has ever called His mother "Mother" or not, scripture does go to pointing us to a new reality coming in Heaven to dwell on rather than what fallible sinners would dwell on what is temporary while down here.

 

[oldhermit]

Why would anyone assume that Jesus never called Mary, 'Mother' simply because it was not recorded in scripture? You have to remember that scripture records only a very small segment of a three-year period in Jesus' life.

 

[Fragrant Grace]

In the scriptures do we often see reference to Jesus calling His disciples, His followers or His enemies by name? The answer is no.....not very often.
But because this wasnt recorded doesnt mean He didnt use names.

And we know for sure Jesus knew their names.....each and everyone.

Praise the Lord