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Why add twenty-seven?

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Using only what is found in the Tanakh, please demonstrate that the twenty-seven books which make up the New Testament, and only those books, need to be added to what is called 'scripture' or 'the scriptures'.
 
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Using only what is found in the Tanakh, please demonstrate that the twenty-seven books which make up the New Testament, and only those books, need to be added to what is called 'scripture' or 'the scriptures'.
Numbers Chapter 14

כאוְאוּלָ֖ם חַי־אָ֑נִי וְיִמָּלֵ֥א כְבוֹד־יְהֹוָ֖ה
אֶת־כָּל־הָאָֽרֶץ:

There you go.
The New Testament is the glory of the Lord.
 
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Using only what is found in the Tanakh, please demonstrate that the twenty-seven books which make up the New Testament, and only those books, need to be added to what is called 'scripture' or 'the scriptures'.
Jeremiah 31:30-33 (CJB)

30 (31) “Here, the days are coming,” says Adonai, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Isra’el and with the house of Y’hudah. 31 (32) It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers on the day I took them by their hand and brought them out of the land of Egypt; because they, for their part, violated my covenant, even though I, for my part, was a husband to them,” says Adonai. 32 (33) “For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,” says Adonai: “I will put my Torah within them and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people. 33 (34) No longer will any of them teach his fellow community member or his brother, ‘Know Adonai’; for all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest; because I will forgive their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.”
 
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Using only what is found in the Tanakh, please demonstrate that the twenty-seven books which make up the New Testament, and only those books, need to be added to what is called 'scripture' or 'the scriptures'.
I propose Isa. 53, the undeniably acute prophecy of Messiah, only fulfilled by Jesus the Christ of God. The 27 NT books are inspired volumes pertaining to his message to man through the apostles, disciples, by the Holy Spirit.
 
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Nothing in the book of Numbers or Jeremiah tells me that Paul's letter to the Colossians is to be treated as scriptural but that Shepherd of Hermas is not. Neither even mentions an additional set of writings that are to be given the status of 'scripture'.

Come to think of it, when 'the scriptures' appears in the book of Acts and 'scripture' appears in the second epistle of Timothy, nothing there suggests that they are referring to anything additional to the Hebrew scriptures.
 
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So your wisdom concerning the scriptures trumps all the experts of multiple millennia, and even ignores the fact that only one man in history fulfilled every bit of that prophecy to the letter. You stand alone the exceptional expert as to who might be described in that book of the Tanach (Isa 53)? Please reconsider.

David, the TORAH is the first 5 books including Numbers, all of Moses. The Tanach is the rest of the Hebrew Bible. Jesus has met the requirements of most prophecies of the entire Hebrew Bible (OT), the balance not possibly met until he returns in the clouds.
 
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Nothing in the book of Numbers or Jeremiah tells me that Paul's letter to the Colossians is to be treated as scriptural but that Shepherd of Hermas is not. Neither even mentions an additional set of writings that are to be given the status of 'scripture'.

Come to think of it, when 'the scriptures' appears in the book of Acts and 'scripture' appears in the second epistle of Timothy, nothing there suggests that they are referring to anything additional to the Hebrew scriptures.
At the time of Acts unfolding, Paul writing letters, Peter adding, Luke and Mark contributing, James & Matthew submitting theirs, written scriptures were still the Hebrew Bible. In the days of Jesus and beyond some help was available in the Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew texts. That's all there was, those two sources. The apostle's letters required many decades of copying to distribute to churches under extreme persecution and punishment for distributing the word of God. So the "scriptures" in Acts and Timothy referred to the OT. Then we find Peter was the first to refer to epistles of Paul's in 2 Peter 3:15-16 (KJV)
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Peter and Paul both relied heavily on scriptures of the Torah and Tanach, and so did Jesus. All Jesus had was the Hebrew Bible and of course what the Father supplied. He left the Holy Spirit in charge of adding further knowledge of the word of God. It's all interactive.

The Colossian letter dealt with the fact that Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the Law, answered the prophets, and warned of the consequences of returning to the Law. Jews were plaguing gentiles, demanding adherence to Moses. God warned Israel long before Jesus came that he would dismantle their nation and ways until the new millennium, when Israel will be restored in the proper glory with Jesus on the throne. Much of the NT makes little sense without knowledge of the old way, but that knowledge isn't required for a gentile to be saved.
 

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