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Where are our dead brothers?

iluvjesus

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Eph 3:15 (Living Bible Translation) says

"all the great family of God, some of them ALREADY IN HEAVEN and some down here on earth"

what does it mean? are our brothers already in heaven or what? i thought everyone's waiting for the coming of the Lord (revelation) ?

looking forward for some answers. thanks a lot. God bless you all!
 
Hi iluvjesus, if you look in Bible Chat, you'll see that there is a thread titled "Death", I started it a while back, there's quite alot of information there, enough to make up your own mind.

Much love
teraside
 
Hello there......iluvjesus, I will try to give an answer to your question.

I believe that when a Christian dies, they go right away to be with Jesus. We bury their earthly remains, but the real person has gone to be with the LOrd. The Apostle Paul said that he would rather be with the Lord, but for the sake of the believers in the Early Church, he said that it was better that he reamin upon the earth.

So we have believers in heaven, and we also have believers who are still upon the earth.

Read 2 Corinthians ch 5 Verse 6 of the chapter says "Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the lord.........v 8 and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord."

And we all await the Rapture. 2 Thess ch 2 Read about the Rapture in the section "Evidence and Prophecy"
 
Paul says he would be better off to die and be with Christ, but had some unfinished business down here. Absent from the body at death, to be present with the lord in spirit and soul, thief on the cross was offered this grace as well. But after death we as saints will still be waiting for the resurrection of the body, as a new body will be given all who are in Christ. A new body fasioned like the glorious body of Christ...



2Co 5:8 We are confident, [I say], and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.


Phi 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

This will be a glorious day both for the ones who are left, and the saints in heaven:star:


God bless
 
lol you beat me to it brother Steven, good reply...my slow typing skills are a thorn in my flesh:star:

God bless you
 
lol you beat me to it brother Steven, good reply...my slow typing skills are a thorn in my flesh:star:

God bless you

LOL. Believe it or not, there is a typing skill game in the arcade :shade:

Its pretty neat. And highly recommended for the following members....


...just kidding :P

 
I hope everyone who isn't here anymore is really happy and loved.

Always

How fab that would be x
 
conFusSedd!!

wait.. i dont get it... if everyone who dies goes back to the Lord, how about the "waiting place" and Sheol? and the stuff that has been explained in revelation? im confused! =O

thanks.. God bless!
 
Here is something else for you, to go through. Hope that helps.

Death

How can we face death? We need not be afraid if God is with us. It's in the Bible, Psalm 23:4, TLB. "Even when walking through the dark valley of death I will not be afraid, for You are close beside me, guarding, guiding all the way."

What is death like? It is like falling asleep. It's in the Bible, I Thessalonians 4:13, NIV. "Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope." and in John 11:11-14, NIV. "After He had said this, He went on to tell them, 'Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep; but I am going there to wake him up.' His disciples replied, 'Lord, if he sleeps, he will get better.' Jesus had been speaking of his death, but His disciples thought He meant natural sleep. So then He told them plainly, 'Lazarus is dead'."

Where does Daniel say the dead are sleeping? It's in the Bible, Daniel 12:2, NIV. "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake."

Do the dead know anything? It's in the Bible, Ecclesiastes 9:5-6, 10, NIV. "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten. Their love, their hate and their jealousy have long since vanished; never again will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun… Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the grave, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom."

But death is not the end! It's in the Bible, Isaiah 26:19, NIV. "But your dead will live; their bodies will rise. You who dwell in the dust, wake up and shout for joy."

What does Jesus promise those who die? It's in the Bible, Hosea 13:14, NIV. "I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death."

Resurrection power comes from Christ. It's in the Bible, I Corinthians 15:21-22, NIV. "For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive."

Why did God give His Son to the world? It's in the Bible, John 3:16, NIV. "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Both good and evil people are resurrected. It's in the Bible, John 5:28-29, NIV. "Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned."

The righteous are resurrected at the second coming of Christ. It's in the Bible, I Thessalonians 4:16-17, NIV. "For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air."

What will we be like after the resurrection? It's in the Bible, Philippians 3:20-21, NIV. "But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables Him to bring everything under His control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like His glorious body."

How long will the resurrected righteous live? It's in the Bible, Luke 20:36, NIV. "And they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God's children, since they are children of the resurrection."

How long do the wicked wait after the first resurrection before they are raised? It's in the Bible, Revelation 20:4-5, NIV. "They [the righteous] came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.)"

What is their fate? It's in the Bible, Revelation 20:9, NIV. "Fire came down from heaven and devoured them."

Who are the wicked? It's in the Bible, Revelation 21:8, NIV. "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
 
Eph 3:15 (Living Bible Translation) says

"all the great family of God, some of them ALREADY IN HEAVEN and some down here on earth"

what does it mean? are our brothers already in heaven or what? i thought everyone's waiting for the coming of the Lord (revelation) ?

looking forward for some answers. thanks a lot. God bless you all!

Our Brothers are "Somewhere in a dimentional place" waiting for Judgment day....Now! When the apostles say; Our Brothers!!! They meant people who Believe that Jesus the Men is YHWH the Holy Spirit a.k Father and Jesus the Men is YHWH a.k son.....One God "ALONE"..YHWH=Jesus; Get baptized in His Name (meaning the Spiritual Circumsicion Romans 2:28-29; Acts 2:38; Col. 2:9-13; Philp. 3:3; Gal. 5:3) Keeping His Moral Law (The 10 Commandments) and specially the Sabbath; Obeying other decrees, such as washing of the feet, and sharing the bread and wine "Every Sabbath-Day"...We "ALL" gentiles have to became "Spiritual Jews"...so the the literal Jews....a New creation is due to Jesus death...The Spiritual Israel...the Israel of God, from the New Pact..Luke 22:19-20)....

NOw! do you all that?....i had to change everything and start from the begining 3 years ago...but it has paid off....now "I AM WAITING FOR MY GOD"...since Jesus is the God of the bible, In Spirit and in flesh....3 years ago i died in a car accident...( i say i died because the doctor told me so, when i asked him about a dream i had where i saw my deceased mom and dad...i talked with them, walked with them huged them kissed them, that was beautiful, then he looked me and said...James...you were dead, 100% brain dead and we couldn't re-start your heart so i sent you to the morgue....but in your way to the morgue....you moved and moaned "Life come into you" and i do not know how>...well!! i knew...God have all the dead people just as we have so many articles in our computer, and with one key, they come up into the screen....Read the book of Ezekiel..37:1-14 this will give you an idea just as when He made 5000 thousand pieces of bread out of 5, meaning people have to go up from Physics into HydroDynamicMethaphysics....get it?....God controlls the atom, space and time....to His Will....i did a 6 months study on this....atom, matter, dark matter, etc. etc...it come as the bible says, and i have copies, so if you are interested....you will see the whole picture of what is comming, we do not die...."We have an INNER US" made of "Eatherical Matter" which will come out of our bodies the day we die....this new body goes back to God, and He saves it (How and where.....i do not know it is not for me to know, but He already showed me that is true)....well!! this body will be transformed into a "Eternal Matter" meaning we will never die regardless...specially with fire...but we will feel the pain..Just as when Jesus rose from the dead and went through the doors of the house the disciples were......His Invisible "Etherical Body" allowed Him to do that...but!!! He ate..
see!....so this people who do not Obey His Laws and believe in the trinity and observe sunday instead of sunday, and believe they are brothers of the ones the apostles call.......willl have a "VERY VERY RUDE AWAKENNING....and a...
LONG, LONG, LONG TRIP....IN HELL"....So!! I did change from A to Z and i been walking Jesus's Way for 3 Years....i hope some day you too, listen to His Voice....which has been given to you......"TODAY"

God Bless....................................Brother James
 
I hope everyone who isn't here anymore is really happy and loved.

Always

How fab that would be x

Hello Sleepy...Peace of Christ.


Focus on you and the living, the death are doing fine till judgment day, but they can not change thier minds about the Truth of the bible, so!! if anyone died not
Obeying God's Commandments, and not believing that Jesus the Man is Jesus the Holy Spirit YHWH in a human form.....they will have a rude, a very rude awakening, because according to the bible, "HELL" was made for satan and his followers, everyone who is cursed.....so!!! Look in your own bible and see who qualifies to be cursed?.......

God Bless...................................................Brother James

 
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