Actually no one can understand this without God's help. People will say they have scriptures which prove the Trinity, but it is proof only to a person so led by the Holy Spirit. Don't be discouraged by a lack of understanding. We do live for God by faith in and toward Him rather than by knowledge of Him.
Jennifer, God the Father is invisible as he is a Spirit, and no one has ever seen him alone by himself except Jesus Christ who dwells with in his bosom.
You are very correct, but doesn't every one believe he/she is right? If a person is in error, but doesn't know it, should the person not be corrected by God? I know that you believe you are correct in your beliefs as I believe that I am correct in mine as Jennifer believes she is correct in hers. If each of us says that we have received the Truth from God and are only teaching that, should the majority rule? Where in scripture does it say that the majority has the right of it? You see the problem?Following a false belief is one thing. Teaching it is another.
So who is it that should do the silencing? Should it be the Pope in Rome or Billy Graham or Jimmy Swaggert or me or you? You see the problem?Titus 1:10; For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,
Titus 1:11; who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain.
Yes, woe unto them, but have a care lest we speak out against Hosea for marrying a harlot even though God told him to do it.Matt 18:6; but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.
Matt 18:7; “Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes!
Jesus is the only shepherd over the entire flock. But each of the names you mentioned are shepherdsSo who is it that should do the silencing? Should it be the Pope in Rome or Billy Graham or Jimmy Swaggert or me or you? You see the problem?
If a person is certain in his heart that his set of doctrines in right before God, has he also been advised personally by God to silence those who are in error?
Yes, each person with an assignment from God must comply with whatever God requires of him in that assignment. We know that some "watchmen" don't do their job properly. Also some who claim to be "watchmen' really are not in the eyes of God. Some sheep are only claiming to be sheep. They really are something else. It really makes recognizing the Master voice important doesn't it... for every believer.Jesus is the only shepherd over the entire flock. But each of the names you mentioned are shepherds
over a smaller part of that flock. They are responsible for that part. They may not be able to silence or change
what another church on the other side of the world says, but they can silence what is being said in their church.
Yes, I was hit by that once quite a long while back. They may not always be right, but they are always in charge of this particular place.Even here on TJ... there are those who should be shepherds of the flock here. They may not want to be or
they may not even realize they have been put in that position, but I guarantee you they will be held responsible.
On this we agree!As far as should we silence every single doctrine we don't agree with... no, I don't think so.
Unless we are already have completely overcome all of our errors and weaknesses, that is most certainly us.Can any of us say we are 100% correct in everything all of the time? Of course not.
The thing that matters the most is pointed out by Paul and others: charity or love as per I Cor 13:4-7 and Cor 13:13Some doctrines don't matter that much.
Speaking in tongues doesn't save you. Healing someone won't save you. Giving tithes won't save you.
There is a lot we can disagree on. ( and often do )
But there are some doctrines... (such as the deity of Christ) that are non-negotiable.
There are certain things that we have to believe in order to be saved.
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