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**** What would Churchill Do ****

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In the wake of these horrible act's of terror against Britain , and the innocent live's that were lost this week , a thought came to me , and I would like to share it with all our fellow brit's at talkjesus .

The question is , after all this attack on these great people [ What would Winston Churchill Do if he were here today ? ] This is probably one of the greatest world leaders of the last century !

Winston Churchill made a mighty stand against Adolf Hitler , and Nazi Germany , while most of the world stood back and watched his country suffer a constant threat from Hitler's army . Now . Britain is faced with another threat to their freedom's , and their great land .

Prime Minister Tony Blair is a bold leader , who understands the evil that we all face in today's world . The difference is that this evil has no face , but is just as evil if not more evil then Hitler's Germany ! Churchill understood that negotiations with Hitler would never work . Adolf Hitler was quoted as saying
[ I can tell just by looking in the eye's of a leader if he is strong , or if he is a coward ]

Adolf Hitler hated Winston Churchill because Churchill would never cave in under the evil look of an evil enemy . This enemy will never go away until all who oppose it's way of life are destroyed ! What are we to do against this evil the world is faced with .

First of all , we should pray . Second , we should hold our ground against this evil , whatever the price ! I pray that Prime Minister Blair receives the support he needs to defend Britians freedom's against this very evil enemy . Great Britain is just that , Great ! But it's greatness was preserved by a great leader who was willing to make a stand and pay the price to sustain it's ideals and freedoms against an evil enemy .

The muslim world will do nothing to end this terror that was bread in their own backyard ! Their half hearted sorry's and lack of involvement in stopping these evil people allow us to openly see who they really are inside . It's up to the free world to battle this terror or we will all be destroyed by these evil cowards , who cover their faces to hide their own shame .

America will stand with Tony Blair and all the people of Great Britain , for sure ! We as Americans know how it feels when you see your country attacked , and your innocent civilians get slaughter without warning . It may take the rest of the free world to suffer these same feelings before they understand this enemy .

We all must die and thats for sure . But if we must die , then let it happen trying to defend our way of life , unless our children be lead away as slaves to a false God , and prisoners to an eternal death under the hands of a terrorist world , and it's inhumane way of life . May God bless Great Britain , and may the spirit of Winston Churchill be preserved at this time of our live's .

:love: :love: :boy_hug: Mike
 
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Part of Churchill's famous speech....

"....we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this Island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."
 
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Good post mike.To be honest i feel somewhat conflicted by this issue.I have heard it repeatedly said in the media that these terrorists do not have anything to do with true islam.That may be correct but these people are coming from islamic backgrounds and do they expect us to believe they have no idea whatsoever who any of the culprits commiting these atrocities are?I have no idea of a solution for all these problems and am just cocentrating at the moment on prayers for the innocents affected by these murderers.I pray for his kingdom which is the only way to stamp out this terrible behaviour once and for all.
 
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maven and sparky, i thank you both for answering the thread started here by brothersinarmst4g.

for sparky you said - 'cocentrating at the moment on prayers for the innocents affected by these murderers.I pray for his kingdom which is the only way to stamp out this terrible behaviour once and for all.'

and maven you quoted - 'in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."

is this not we are called to do? are we not called to have a prayer based relationship with our Lord, Jesus? are we not called to take this relationship based in prayer and live within the world, living and loving in the grace that Christ has given us. and we do trust that in the end that the Lord will step in, in His time, when He decrees to finally and for all time cleanse us all from this hideous monstrous evil and welcome ourselves into His kingdom, to live in love and peace forever.

Revelation 21:1-8
then i saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. i saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. and i heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. they will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."
He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. to him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. he who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. but the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulphur. this is the second death."


God bless

scrappy
 
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To be honest, I didn't get that from scrapy's post. There is no body language to read, and inflection in the voice is not present in written word. And since we are not all great authors or communicators, some things can be easily misunderstood.
Scrapy, in light of some confusion, could you further explain you response? Thank you.

God bless us all,
Nigh
 
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Scrappy's Quote --- maven and sparky, i thank you both for answering the thread started here by brothersinarmst4g.

for sparky you said - 'cocentrating at the moment on prayers for the innocents affected by these murderers.I pray for his kingdom which is the only way to stamp out this terrible behaviour once and for all.'

and maven you quoted - 'in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."

[ is this not we are called to do? are we not called to have a prayer based relationship with our Lord, Jesus? are we not called to take this relationship based in prayer and live within the world, living and loving in the grace that Christ has given us. and we do trust that in the end that the Lord will step in, in His time, when He decrees to finally and for all time cleanse us all from this hideous monstrous evil and welcome ourselves into His kingdom, to live in love and peace ]

Maybe I missed it . Maybe I am just sensitive about this issue . If Scrappy meant something else , then I will appologize to him openly . If he meant what I think he said , then It was a insensitive statement towards the many murdered victims of terrorism . BROTHERSINARMST4G . :confused:
 
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Jesus is Lord!

Mike:

I have known ever since I was a little girl that I would experience a land war in America.


BROTHERSINARMST4G said:
...Prime Minister Tony Blair is a bold leader , who understands the evil that we all face in today's world...What are we to do against this evil the world is faced with...First of all , we should pray . Second , we should hold our ground against this evil , whatever the price !...America will stand with Tony Blair and all the people of Great Britain , for sure !... But if we must die , then let it happen trying to defend our way of life , unless our children be lead away as slaves to a false God , and prisoners to an eternal death under the hands of a terrorist world , and it's inhumane way of life . May God bless Great Britain , and may the spirit of Winston Churchill be preserved at this time of our live's .

:love: :love: :boy_hug: Mike
 
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Sylvia . You are soo right when you say land war . When the United States were attacked by Japan at Pearl Harbour , My wife old boss lived in the U.S his whole life . He also was Japanese . He went down to join the Army , and ended up in a prisoner of war camp for three years .

This was a terrible thing to do to this man , but was the way the U.S. handled the enemy . Many leaders in the U.S are now considering this same tactic against the Muslims in the U.S . Jesse Jackson quoted these same statements on Hannity and Colmbs the other night . I give him credit for taking this stand .

The United States owe's nobody membership in our Country . I guarantee you that the next time our homeland is attacked by terrorist , you will see a land war ! If the muslims in America do not stand with the U.S. against terrorism . Then you will see a vigilante war in the U.S. like no other since the civil war .

Americans are sick of these cowards , and will fight to save our Country from this enemy . Freedom is not given to us freely . It was won for us by the blood of our fathers and grandfathers before us .

Even in the face of the blood of Jesus Christ , satan still fights against that blood to steal our freedom in Christ ! satan is the father of this enemy and will not give up because we ask him to . He must be cast out in the spirit and if necessary , in the land as well !

My children will live in freedom from this enemy , both in the spirit through Christ Blood , and in our Country through mine if thats what it takes !

The disciples came to Jesus and told him that others were doing works in his name , and asked him to tell them to stop them . Jesus answered and said ...
[ if they are with us then how can they be against us ! ] Let them do it . There is no middle ground with this enemy here . You are with us , or you are against us . The choice is everyone's to make . I have made mine , and I have no shame in it ! You make yours also ! But a lukewarm choice will be spewed out in Jesus name ! I do not call myself BROTHERSINARMST4G for nothing ! Mike
 
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Jesus is Lord!

BROTHERSINARMST4G said:
"...My children will live in freedom from this enemy , both in the spirit through Christ Blood , and in our Country through mine if thats what it takes..." Mike
Mike:

This is a very serious and powerful statement.

Your Sister in Christ,
Dr. Bon Vie/"Sylvia"
 
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The other day I went to look in an al-quida site and it has an American Muslim claiming that America is chasing after Osama Bin-Ladin, that he is in hiding because of America, he is separated from his wife, kids etc...my heart bleeds for his unfortunate circumstance, I guess he had nothing to do with it...
We don't know about the sleeper cells that are waiting IN America to start hitting it again.
I think the guy talking on that site lives in the wrong country.
 
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brothersinarmst4g,

i did not post here to upset you, and in no way did i or do i infer any disrespect to anyone who has been killed or injured, or caught up in anyway in the hideous act that is terrorism.

i can understand that you may and infact do have feelings on this subject, and i can understand that some may find this a sensitive area, which is why i have taken time to think and time to pray before i responded to your initial reply. however hurt i may have been by what you posted or implied.

what you have asked is the point that i am trying to state?

what i am trying to say is this....

that whatever we do in life, whatever happens to ourselves in our life, we must always put Christ at the centre; Jesus must be the focal point of our very existence.
are we not called to have a prayer based relationship with our Lord, Jesus?

through our own individual and personal relationship with Christ we will find what the Lord has individually and purposefully decreed for ourselves, what path He has called us to walk down, and what actions He needs us to take; including when to take those actions. i do not state that this or that action is correct, for i have no right to do so, all i state is that for me to act we should first ground our lives in Christ, and then follow His word in our actions, no matter where this may take you and no matter what life it may lead you to live; afterall the perfect example we have of life and love is the life of Christ, a life based on serving and concluded in sacrifice
are we not called to take this relationship based in prayer and live within the world, living and loving in the grace that Christ has given us.

in the end, when the Lord will come again in all of His glory, then and only then will this life we lead be free from the violence and inhumanity that we see at our every turn. then and only then will our lives see the true love we seek, with the peace that God will bring.
and we do trust that in the end that the Lord will step in, in His time, when He decrees to finally and for all time cleanse us all from this hideous monstrous evil and welcome ourselves into His kingdom, to live in love and peace forever.

i trust that this answers your questions, and i hope that the meaning behind what i wrote is now clear.

i do have a request though, if i do post anything here that you do not fully comprehend my meaning, i ask that you respond with a question not a judgement, with love not malice.

God bless

scrappy
 
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Dear Scrappy . I am very close to this issue and will stand by what I have said about it . I am not sure I am understanding fully what you are saying in word , but in the Holy Spirit , I feel you mean no harm . I have to deal with threats all the time from these organizations , and maybe I am on edge right now .

I want to say to all here that although I still do not understand Scrappy , the Holy Spirit has confirmed in my heart that it was not meant for evil , but healing . I am sorry that I misunderstood you brother and I will go back and delete my accusations against you for God has shown me they were misplaced . I also will ask God for understanding in all you are saying here .

But I will stand by my other statements made about this evil danger . And I also will private message you first before i make statements against you in the future . Again ... I am sorry to you Scrappy , and pray that peace will prevail between us . Mike
 
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mike,

peace will prevail between all who bind themselves in the love of Christ

God bless brother

scrappy
 
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