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What is your interpretation of this verse?

Humans are three parts.. body (flesh), soul, spirit.
When Adam and Eve fell ALL parts were contaminated by sin. The spirit died (God's Spirit left), the soul became the leading part of man (creating the "self"... as indicated by Adam and Eve seeing their nakedness, they became self-conscious)
and satan via the knowledge of good and evil entered our flesh.

Satan dwells in our flesh.
We dwell in our soul ( mind, emotions, will).
God dwells in our spirit.

Mankind is in constant struggle between satan and God. This battle takes place in soul (mind, emotion, will). We are caught between satanic flesh and Godly spirit.
What was crucified with Christ was our independent soul (self) aligned with our sinful satanic flesh...
The flesh was not crucified with Christ.. we have to die for that to happen!
At salvation our spirit was regenerated (born again) and the Spirit joins to our spirit.. so we are one spirit with the Lord...and one in spirit with all other believers. The self is crucified with Christ, so that we no longer sin but the sin (satan) that lives in our flesh. Rom 7:17 "As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me."

The flesh includes the eyes, ears, mouth, tongue, sexual organs, stomach. Appetite for lust or food is because our bodily functions are fallen. The eye says "please me", the stomach says "feed me", the sex organs say "satisfy me", this is the flesh. We have the flesh until we die.. then we get new perfect spiritual bodies like Christ has.
 
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satan does not dwell in people flesh ! Unless they give him that power to take over ! he cannot dwell in GOD children ! Our flesh and spirit is sinful at our beginning in the flesh ! sin is passed on by mans kind seed !

1Jn_4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

The Holy Ghost never dwelled in ADAM or EVE , They were NOT created out of GOD SEED ! But out of the Earth ! We are Born -Again from GOD SEED ! We are Much different than they were ! \

God started a brand new race of beings ! Made just like our Lord Jesus christ ! the LAST ADAM ! the first adam and last Adam are Very different ! The last Adam is a quicken Spirit being ! Made from God seed as we are !

The seed our new Spirit [New Creature] Is made from is a Perfect SEED ,. God seed ! It cannot Sin this new creature He has made us !

1Pe_1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1Jn_3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

No one had the Holy Ghost dwelling in them , until the LORD rose from the dead ! went to New Jerusalem and sent back the HOLY GHOST !
Joh_7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

He came upon people , but did not dwell in any !

Joh_11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Our Spirit is part of HIS Family and Household Forever more ! It Will never sin , so it will never be separted from our Father GOD !

satan can only trick or decieve mankind ! Yes he does process some , but they must allow it ! But we can cast them out of those poor decieved souls !
he the great deciever , he hates mankind ! he wanted to rule this polanet ! Be the god of this planet ! GOD refused to share HIS throne with him ! But Now GOD is willing to share HIS throne with the few willing to accept HIS gospel and HIM as LORD!

This really makes satan hate mankind !

Rev_3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

And GOD declares US ALL , Overcomers at Salvation ! Because ? JESUS DID IT ALL FOR US !

1Jn_4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
Rom_8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

We CANNOT LOSE ! No matter how weak we might appear to others ? WE just accept by Faith What our Father GOD has done for Us though JESUS CHRIST our LORD ! It sounds too good to be true ! Yet it TRUE ! It amazing satan has tricked so many to refuse this Wonderful Eternal GIFT!
Rom_6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
Listen , if we truly understand and believe this ? We All live much better lives for HIM! His ways are Not mankinds ways !
He gets the right results with HIS ways ! They appear foolish to the World !

Rom_6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Eph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

So many teach we must do something too keep salvation ? That a lie ! It a FREE GIFT to all mankind , willing to Accept What HE has Already done and Him as LORD !
HE LORD already ! We just accept Truth !

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

There is NO MORE to SALVATION ! It simple , Even a child can understand it !

2Ti_3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Rom_2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
It For All mankind !

1Jn_2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
2Pe_3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
He made it possible for All too have salvation !

Eze_36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water andofthe Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
John 3:6 explains John 3:5 Our first birth is a water birth from our mothers! The NEXT Must be from GOD !a new Spirit a New Creature!
Rom_1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Rom_4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

It a One on One Relationship Forever MORE! We Give ourselves to JESUS at Salvation ! We Belong to HIm 100% and all we have !
We cannot belong to anyone or anything else ! We can go to church where ever ! But we belong to our LORD JESUS 100%

Many want to own us and use us ! But we Belong too HIM Alone ! We cannot give ourselves to JESUS , then turn around and give ourselves to a Religion ? We cannot serve two masters ! We are Part of HIS unseen church ! He alone is the Head of HIS church and family and Household !


Eph_5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

There is no man or person on earth who is a go between ! Only JESUS CHRIST ! We do All things as unto JESUS !

1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
 
We do not kill our flesh ! We need it to serve the LORD here 1 We just take control of it ! Not let it have it way in most things? We must feed it and do other things for it ! Like we would a child ? Not sure that a good example ?

The More we walk and live though OUR SPIRIT ? The more control we will have Over it 1 the Less we walk and live though our spirit / the less control we will have over it !

The flesh is weak and self serving !
GOD Kingdom is NOt based on self serving ! but serving others ! Being a blessing , a living sacrifice , giving !

satan kingdom is based on taking ! Destorying !
 
We do not kill our flesh ! We need it to serve the LORD here 1 We just take control of it ! Not let it have it way in most things? We must feed it and do other things for it ! Like we would a child ? Not sure that a good example ?

The More we walk and live though OUR SPIRIT ? The more control we will have Over it 1 the Less we walk and live though our spirit / the less control we will have over it !

The flesh is weak and self serving !
GOD Kingdom is NOt based on self serving ! but serving others ! Being a blessing , a living sacrifice , giving !

satan kingdom is based on taking ! Destorying !

You beleve in the immortality of the soul, I do not and that alters our concept of the gospel. Even though we agree on many things the final outcome is not the same.
 
The soul the mind !
We get HIS type mind at salvation IN OUR NEW CREATURE [Spirit]

2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Gal_6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.


1Co_2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
And it has HIS type perfect nature also !
2Pe_1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.


Heb_5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
1Pe_2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
1Co_3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.


Heb_5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb_5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
 
I undestand these texts well, and agree. When I speak of the flesh I speak of the inner man, or who we are as people, or the mindset. When I said that our flesh must be crucified in Christ I was not talking about the physical body.
 
Romans 6
5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection,
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knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.
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For he who has died has been freed from sin.
8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him,
9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him.
10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

You now have the mind of Christ, the power of sin and death no longer
dominates our thought patters. If you believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ
then you are a new creation, new life , old ways have passed away.
 
satan does not dwell in people flesh ! Unless they give him that power to take over ! he cannot dwell in GOD children ! Our flesh and spirit is sinful at our beginning in the flesh ! sin is passed on by mans kind seed !

Of course.. not literally Satan, the fallen archangel.. but in Scripture Satan is sometimes used as a synonym for the flesh...because in the spiritual realm there is no neutral ground, there is only light and darkness, God or Satan. According to what Christ said to Peter in Matt 16:23.. when we mind the things of men... our flesh.. it is Satan. This is because the things of men, and our flesh, is in Satan's realm. Satan rules over the worldly people and the whole earth from the throne of flesh (2 Corinthians 4:4).

As Hebrews 2:14 indicates.. Jesus defeated Satan in the flesh by taking a nature of flesh and dying on the cross:
Hebrews 2:14 " Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;"

This is why Jesus could not just "die spiritually", His flesh had to die!




Some examples:

1 Cor 5:5
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

2 Cor 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

Matt 16:23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."
 
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satan DID not dwell in Peters flesh Nor did he in pauls flesh ! he gets control of peoples minds ! he puts evil thoughts in peoples minds ! we reject them or accept them ? That what took place with Peter and the LORD knew it was not coming from Peters Him self 1 but had been planted in HIS mind by satan 1 that why OUR LORD rebuked the devil where the thought came from and not Peter !

God speaks to us in our minds just as demons do ! Our flesh mind is the battle field ! What you have lost your mind ? you have lost your body 1 whoever controls the mind ? Controls the body !

It true our flesh has a sin nature ! But our Spirit is higher than our flesh ! And we can control the flesh and not allow it to have it way , though our Spirit man ! But , we Must be walking and living more fully in our Spirit , too control or Lord over ourr weak flesh ! The flesh is a wondrerful thing if under control ! It not How God made it , it been changed by Sin ! still it can do lots more than most know or understand !

People have done Amazing things , far from the norm ! I have too at times ? Not that much , but enough to know it Much more than most think it is !
JESUS TOOK the power away from satan ! he limited as too what he can do now! he mostly decieves , tricks people ! Our LORD beat him 100%

he now mostly uses people to hurt and kill other people ! But We DO NOT have to FEAR anything . He with Us and the most powerful Being Ever !

1Jn_4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
We All have ,if Born of God ? His Power within each of Us !
Listen i had a guy who had killed 11 people try to kill me twice ! God would not let HIm pull the trigger ! He tried very hard ! God told me in my mind . I could take the gun away from HIm and shoot HIm ! I said LORD i do not want to kill anyone !
Later that same guy killed another innocent man , maybe had killed more ?
I wondered if i had taken the gun and shot the guy ! I would have saved that other mans life and maybe others ?

This I KNOW ! God can and does protect us even from ourselves some times ! I do not worry about dying , i think about pleasing HIM now ! I Want HIM TO SAY ONE DAY ? i was faithful mostly !
 
It true our flesh has a sin nature ! But our Spirit is higher than our flesh ! And we can control the flesh and not allow it to have it way , though our Spirit man !

Amen.. thanku for ur encouraging post.. my point is.. Flesh is not neutral. In spiritual realm there is no in between light and darkness, God and Satan. It is either on God's side or Satan side. Evil flesh and sinful nature on Satan's side. God gave Paul thorn in flesh.. messenger of Satan.. Satan in Paul's flesh giving affliction. Sin living in man's flesh is not God.. who else is it? It Satan. Satan is sin personified. That's why Christ's flesh had to die.. if you say Christ's flesh perfect..no sinful nature from fall of Adam and Eve.. then we cannot believe Satan is defeated...maybe we believe that only Christ "die spiritually", whatever that means.. that God the Father left Him and so Jesus "died".. that his flesh dying was no importance. But the reason why Jesus flesh dying is important is because - Satan is defeated only when the flesh which contain satan dies. For us too.. sin nature.. satan, in our flesh is defeated only when we die. That is why we must die first and then judgement.
 
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Listen sin and satan are Not the SAME !


satan a real being that sinned ! Mankind is a real spirit being also but dwells in real flesh , which was made from this planet ! satan does not dwell in all mankinds flesh ! he Never dwelled in our LORD JESUS ! But Jesus did take upon HIm All of Mankinds Sins !

satan did think by getting mankind to kill Jesus , That he would be able to rule the world ! But was wrong ! Jesus was Perfect in His flesh ! He had No sin in HIM self ! But HE did take upon His perfect flesh , All outr sins ! Paying the full Price for mankinds Sin ! Sin from its beginning in the garden of Eden to the end of this planet ! Very evil and fowl sins !

He Died not to save mankinds flesh or this planet or anything on it ! He died that We could if willing ? Be made Brand new Creatures ! God does this by giving the Few Willing ? New spirit being !

God is a Spirit as we all are , as is all the angels of Heaven and all the fallen angels !

Heb_12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

Our New spirit is perfect , Made in the Image of our LORD JESUS !Where the Holy Ghost dwells forever more and never leaves or Forsakes1

Heb_12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Eph_2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Rom_8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Rom_1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son

Our Spirit never sleeps ! But it does not FOOD ! It feeds on GOD living Words and is a baby at salvation and needs to be FED to grow too Mature !

Born -Again is just what it says ? A brand new baby born into the world , but a spiritual baby ! It Really born into the Kingdom of God !Into God family and Household as a Priest and King of God Forever more !

but it still a baby and needs to grow up !

1Pe_2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
Heb_5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
1Co_3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

SoHeb_5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

Strong meat is the deeper trues of GOD !

some do not feed this new baby , and it does not Mature!

We must READ THE BIBLE , And ASK QUESTIONS of the Holy GHOST , so He will reveal the correct understanding to US !
Heb_5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Eph_3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
We Have Everything we will ever need in our New Spirit man !
Eph_3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
Rev_19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

2Pe_1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

GOD puts the Language of heaven in the new creature at it Birth1 Because that is His HOME Forever more1 God had a language the angels and others there used 1 It not any language on Earth !

It a Perfect language !Nothing Here is Perfect we see !

Our spirit knows it , even if we never speak it here ?

1Co_14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

Pe_2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:


Rev_5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

1Co_2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1Co_2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Joh_17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Joh_17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Our New Man , New spirit Home is NOW NEW JERUSALEM !
We LIVE and WALK MORe in our Spirit ? WE will see Much more of the POWER of GOD in our lives and those we touch for His Glory and Honor !

We see How at the churches beginning , Some great great things our family in the LORD DID ! It for us too ! As He is NO respecter of Persons !

It All By Faith and in HIS Mighty name and done by The HOLY GHOST !

Mat_10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
Act_26:8 Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead?

Mat_16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Mat_18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Joh_20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

Joh_14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

He has made Each of us Very High in His kingdom ! Joint Heirs with OUR LORD JESUS ! More than conquerors , and 100% overcomers at salvation ! It does not matter , if we live it or NOT ? HE has Declared it and it CANNOT BE CHANGED ! You have that power within you no matter what !


God wants to use each of us to free pothers , to lift up Others so they can outwardly overcome ! He does not want us hurting or beating down the weak children of God . But encourage and bless them and HThere households !
God a Giver ! He wants each Child to be a Giver !

We Have Much to give, We have GOD OWN POWER with us !

1Jn_4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Listen We already have enough power to do all those things ! still GOD the Giver , Will give us Even more of we want !

but if we are Not using what we have ? why would we want more Power ?

Mat_7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Luk_11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Listen , the reason we want anything is to serve HIm more perfectly and too bless others for His glory and Honor ! Never for ourselves !
Rom_14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

We need to stay Humble and know it all for Him ! He could use a Rock or a donkey or anything else ! So WE MUST NOT ger high minded ! Or He will Knock us Down . and rightfully so ! We are the CREATED and He the Creator 1Never forget that !
 
Amen.. thanku for ur encouraging post.. my point is.. Flesh is not neutral. In spiritual realm there is no in between light and darkness, God and Satan. It is either on God's side or Satan side. Evil flesh and sinful nature on Satan's side. God gave Paul thorn in flesh.. messenger of Satan.. Satan in Paul's flesh giving affliction. Sin living in man's flesh is not God.. who else is it? It Satan. Satan is sin personified. That's why Christ's flesh had to die.. if you say Christ's flesh perfect..no sinful nature from fall of Adam and Eve.. then we cannot believe Satan is defeated...maybe we believe that only Christ "die spiritually", whatever that means.. that God the Father left Him and so Jesus "died".. that his flesh dying was no importance. But the reason why Jesus flesh dying is important is because - Satan is defeated only when the flesh which contain satan dies. For us too.. sin nature.. satan, in our flesh is defeated only when we die. That is why we must die first and then judgement.

Hello James1523.

The "nature" that Christ had during His time with us is explained
in Paul's letter to the Philippians. It is not easy to see from the
scripture unless you know where to look.

Jesus Christ arrived on Earth as God and as a man.

Philippians 2
5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bond servant, and coming in the likeness of men.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death,
even the death of the cross.

This is important to note that "He humbled Himself" after He was born.

Jesus would not have to humble Himself if He was not God Himself.

So fully God and fully human, but without the sinful nature.

Jesus had no father, no inherited death penalty or fallen nature.

Some of your posts are quite solid, keep up the good work James.
 
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